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61  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Rollin.io is a scam !/? on: January 24, 2016, 06:35:30 PM
Rollin knows the outcome here is your proof the mercenne twister, it was cracked years ago..
https://jazzy.id.au/2010/09/22/cracking_random_number_generators_part_3.html
62  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Rollin.io is a scam !/? on: January 24, 2016, 05:43:42 PM
The only troll here is you clown.
This only proves my point you dont know what your talking about, apperently YOU NEVER even visted the site, yet you bashing with this "provably fair" garbage.
Both rollin and fortunejack use "mersenne twister" well apparently you know something they dont.......
Correct me if im wrong, but the seed is generated "cryptographically" by using an algorithm which is set by the operator and NOT the player.

63  Economy / Gambling / Re: Primedice.com | Most Popular & Trusted Bitcoin Game | Huge Community | Free BTC on: January 23, 2016, 09:32:02 PM
Slightly off the subject. I'm here from the rollin.io thread, there seems to be identical issues with most of these sites...rigging. I might have an idea how they are cheating.
64  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Rollin.io is a scam !/? on: January 23, 2016, 05:06:54 PM
Is this the algorithm code used to generate the seed?
// Create a length n array to store the state of the generator
 int[0..n-1] MT
 int index := n+1
 const int lower_mask = (1 << r) - 1 // That is, the binary number of r 1's
 const int upper_mask = lowest w bits of (not lower_mask)
 
 // Initialize the generator from a seed
 function seed_mt(int seed) {
Or this?

     index := n
     MT[0] := seed
     for i from 1 to (n - 1) { // loop over each element
         MT := lowest w bits of (f * (MT[i-1] xor (MT[i-1] >> (w-2))) + i)
     }
 }
 
 // Extract a tempered value based on MT[index]
 // calling twist() every n numbers
 function extract_number() {
     if index >= n {
         if index > n {
           error "Generator was never seeded"
           // Alternatively, seed with constant value; 5489 is used in reference C code[45]
         }
         twist()
     }
 
     int y := MT[index]
     y := y xor ((y >> u) and d)
     y := y xor ((y << s) and b)
     y := y xor ((y << t) and c)
     y := y xor (y >> l)
 
     index := index + 1
     return lowest w bits of (y)
 }
 
 // Generate the next n values from the series x_i
 function twist() {
     for i from 0 to (n-1) {
         int x := (MT and upper_mask)
                   + (MT[(i+1) mod n] and lower_mask)
         int xA := x >> 1
         if (x mod 2) != 0 { // lowest bit of x is 1
             xA := xA xor a
         }
         MT := MT[(i + m) mod n] xor xA
     }
     index := 0
 }

Or this?
def _int32(x):
    # Get the 32 least significant bits.
    return int(0xFFFFFFFF & x)

class MT19937:

    def __init__(self, seed):
        # Initialize the index to 0
        self.index = 624
        self.mt =
  • * 624
        self.mt[0] = seed  # Initialize the initial state to the seed
        for i in range(1, 624):
            self.mt = _int32(
                1812433253 * (self.mt[i - 1] ^ self.mt[i - 1] >> 30) + i)

    def extract_number(self):
        if self.index >= 624:
            self.twist()

        y = self.mt[self.index]

        # Right shift by 11 bits
        y = y ^ y >> 11
        # Shift y left by 7 and take the bitwise and of 2636928640
        y = y ^ y << 7 & 2636928640
        # Shift y left by 15 and take the bitwise and of y and 4022730752
        y = y ^ y << 15 & 4022730752
        # Right shift by 18 bits
        y = y ^ y >> 18

        self.index = self.index + 1

        return _int32(y)

    def twist(self):
        for i in range(0, 624):
            # Get the most significant bit and add it to the less significant
            # bits of the next number
            y = _int32((self.mt & 0x80000000) +
                       (self.mt[(i + 1) % 624] & 0x7fffffff))
            self.mt = self.mt[(i + 397) % 624] ^ y >> 1

            if y % 2 != 0:
                self.mt = self.mt ^ 0x9908b0df
        self.index = 0
65  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Rollin.io is a scam !/? on: January 22, 2016, 01:30:48 AM
It's a scam, so dont be stupid by depositing your money there. I'm beeing constantly asked "prove" it, the only way to "prove" it in, you would need
1. a group of professional and experienced web designers/developers and programmers (which ironically, the operators of all these gambling sites just happen to be Wink
2. Full administrative acess to the site
For the reasons listed above, it can not be other wise proven in technical terms, at least not by me.
66  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Rollin.io is SCAM. on: January 22, 2016, 01:21:01 AM
Im not a computer enginer, web designer or a cryptographer, for that reason i can not break it down in "technical" terms. With that said,  the only true way to prove its a scam, you would need full aceess to the site with administrative privileges. And yes, the site is a scam.....
67  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Rollin.io is a scam !/? on: January 19, 2016, 03:58:47 AM
Actually, it proves nothing Wink there is a way to minipulate the outcome. It maybe true that the seed is randomly generated, but its generated by the operator. While he mught not actually program the seed for the outcome directly, he can still minipulate it in othwer ways. "You can check that the server_seed was not changed after making the bet" but not before Wink
68  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Rollin.io is a scam !/? on: January 18, 2016, 04:36:14 PM
We can argue about this till the sun explodes, fact remains its rigged. And rollin isnt the only one. The site/s are operated by computer engineer/s and web developer/s, and not actual gamblers, loan shark or bookies. Its true, i can not explain how they are exactly manipulating, my acknowledge is limited in this space.
69  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Rollin.io is a scam !/? on: January 17, 2016, 11:09:38 PM
Haha, it dosent matter what you think or post, bitcointalk will delete your comments if it conflicts with their personal point of view.
70  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Rollin.io is a scam !/? on: January 14, 2016, 05:53:47 AM
No its not, the seed is not generated until the bet is placed. You people scammed and stole millions.
71  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Rollin.io is a scam !/? on: January 13, 2016, 03:40:02 PM
I begg to differ, it was childish to bring up an old issue that was previously clarified some time ago. In any case, they throwing around all rhis technical mumbo jumbo jargon, but the fact remains, that the operator can see your bid, and yet hes the one that generating "random" and "encrypted" seed there after. You dont see anything strange with that? That the "random" seed is generated only after you place a bid, while he knows your exact bid and the ammount!
72  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Rollin.io is a scam !/? on: January 13, 2016, 02:25:16 AM
"Talk about a one-issue-bitcointalk-account..." i didn't understand what you were referring to at first, and no, I DID NOT START THIS THREAD, and i belive i have clarified that incident already previously.  This only show's how immature you are by even trying to imply that i waste my time by starting silly and useless threads on online forums.
73  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Rollin.io is a scam !/? on: January 13, 2016, 02:03:01 AM
Oh, you are one of the moderator clowns from rollin, im sure you have nothing but peachy things to say about your little scammy site.
74  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Rollin.io is a scam !/? on: January 12, 2016, 10:31:12 PM
And if you had any doubt, let me put it to you this way, today 1/12/2016 the admin appeared in the chat room of rollin.io and gave an explanation why the faucet was decreased and the timer was extended. Reason? Price increase, but failed to mention why the maximum bet increased from 5.8 BTC to 6.8 BTC ironic? 😐
75  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Rollin.io is a scam !/? on: January 12, 2016, 09:59:41 PM
You think they are in buisness because their websites are "fair" your joking right? Here is a defenition of provably fair " algorithm which can be analyzed and verified for fairness on the part of the service operator." thats right, the number is not generated until you place a bid, only then is the seed "randomly" generated, you dont see a problem with that? Its no different then calling head or tails on a coin flip, right after it was flipped already, and you can visually see the coin.
76  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Rollin.io is a scam !/? on: January 12, 2016, 05:48:14 PM
I see morons post things like "well my account is pisitive" it want cheat a 2 cent bet. provably fair = provably scam, just that simple.
77  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Rollin.io is SCAM. on: December 07, 2015, 07:16:35 AM
its kind of cute to see everyone associated with a scam site quickly jump on the defense, and defend each other, that right there alone is proof Smiley probably because all of you been ripping people off for years?
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