Yes, that's why I said it was supposed to be a peer to peer system for everyone. Now it most definitely is not.
Absolutely! Lightning is amazing, but what can us ornery folks do to take the decisions away from the greedy cro-magnons? Thisis a future I want to see, This video sums it up brilliantly, https://youtu.be/r-wlypHbgIU

The boring people have been in charge for thousands of years, it;'s time to bypass them and their dull sad world and take control for ourselves. I'm sick of them and their short-sighted greed.


This is not strictly true, even a year ago it was possible to send small amounts cheaply, so it's possible again. It's just a matter of design and it would be quite possible if the will was there. As always, the wrong people are leading the way. The design of the system is being steered away from what it was intended. Maybe it will take another coin to force them to do as we want?

I think so too, what can I do to push in that direction?

Hi,

Even just a year ago bitcoin was useable... now the fees are about 10x what the banks charge. Seems like its changing from a peer-to-peer money system for everyone into yet another convenient way for rich people to exchange funds!

What went wrong> And more to the point, who is responsible? What can be done to fix it?
Thanks
Andy

I usually wait till I have around 100k and then withdraw. It would definitely be better for me to have it sent to faucethub instead of direct to my wallet. I don't see how it would be any harm to you to add in the option to withdraw to faucethub instead, and it would be great for a lot of users as it would save them some money.

Where's the harm in that?

Now that tx fees are getting ridiculous in BTC (it's cheaper to use the BANKS! (spit) - but that's another issue) it makes sense as a faucet user to look at payment methods as well as payout amounts and time taken when deciding which ones to use and which ones to stop using.

all the best

andy

Hi, long time user here. Now that transaction fees are getting high and the value of btc is also high, its getting important to avoid 'dust' transactions in our wallets. It's getting to the point where even 100k is pretty much dust. Would you consider using faucethub as a payment option? It probably would be cheaper for you as well as better for a lot of your users (well, me!)
Cheers
Andy

PS. Faucethub users are also chronic dice players..

Agree. I think some of them are still trapped in the idea that if they run a cryptocurrency it's like a normal currency, but people will only take so much crap and there are alternatives. The possibilities are amazing and a few short-sighted morons can't stop it, like they have done up to now.

But re. government, they can't really compete with open and free. They can only destroy things, that's all they ever do.

Yeah I know what you mean. V2.0 will be along in a month or so and addresses many of the failings of 1.0 - there's a good team working on it. I think it will take off in the next year, so long as the bitcoin problems can be overcome, one way or another.

OB is not like a company - it doesn't need to rise fast and keep growing. It all depends on the cryptocurrencies, if they don't make themselves useful then everything will disappear, not just Open Bazaar.

The good news is that there will be other currencies. If Bitcoin miners etc allow short term greed and politics to get in the way of the progress in the directions that most people want then thier currency will become obsolete. Fortunately it's not the only one.

Hi, yes I've been using it. I agree it has the potential to be incredibly disruptive and those it will disrupt truly deserve to be disrupted. I set up a forum for openbazaar, feel free to advertise there for free, and help generate some discussion too. http://openbazaar.tk/

I got snowed under with work lately so haven;t been able to do it the justice I should have..

Version 2.0 is coming up soon and addresses a lot of the previous shortfallings I think.
All the best and hope to see you on the site!

I'm using all of them and faucethub.io seems the best to me in terms of clarity and ease of use. Additionally Mex, the owner, is very active, having a lot of faucets and he seems to be very security-focussed. He puts his figures up on the site, is very easy to contact and overall is the most open and approachable operator out there.

I came across an old thread asking Is OpenBazaar A Failure, I tried to reply but it told me to start a new thread so...

How can you call something a failure before it has even started? Most of the people who will benefit from using it are in the 'third world' and haven't even heard of it yet.  With version 2 it will be much easier to set up and run (it's pretty easy already but you need it on pretty much 24/7) and uptake will increase from then on I think.

Some of the discussion revolved around whether businesses will consider it worth the risk of investment, but the whole point of it is to open up selling to a whole bunch of folks who would not consider setting up an online store under the current circumstances, and those who could not, which includes billions of 'unbanked' people.

OpenBazaar is designed by people who are imagining a different future, not looking at the past and basing the design principles on that. It's natural that such a thing will not 'catch on' with those who are already familiar with the old ways of doing things.

A thing is not a failure until it fails. So far OB has been a success. It went from drawing board to beta testing with testcoin to first deployment quite fast. It has users and is being used. It's not an organization or company, so it doesn't need to grow or progress within the confines and definitions of such an entity.  Will it fail at some time in the future? Who knows? Nothing like it has been done before so there's nothing to measure against. At worst it can be the yardstick by which subsequent efforts will be measured.

For anyone who has sold something using it, or has merely been inspired by it, it's a success. Having lots of users and making money is a measure of success for the likes of Etsy or eBay, because they are companies. We need to define success before we can argue about it. Othewise, I can claim my dog is a failure because he can't fly.

 If it's off-topic I'd like to know why so as to avoid making the same mistake again. As far as I can see it's about bitcoin-related things, I see other openbazaar-related thread in this section so I'd appreciate an explanation.

If it's off topic I'll happily remove it myself.
Thanks

Hi there is a new forum, openbazaar talk. It's only just been set up so there's not a lot there yet, but I think it will be a useful addition.

New sections will be added depending on what people want to discuss. Take a look.

What do you think?

My first impressions were back when it was still in beta, using testcoins. I was amazed at how good the interface was, even at that early stage. It was the first time I actually felt like it would be worth opening a store. There's so much crap involved with opening on etsy and the rest.  This holds a vision of a much better future if we can break through the inertia built up by the old system.

Even now, there are some great stores operating on OB and it will only get better.

Thanks a lot, sounds good.
Andy

Hi again, I followed the pip instructions and got the latest version. It removed the old one too so that's good. I still get the same error message though. Maybe it doesn't matter, I don't usually launch things from the command line so for all I know that happens a lot!

Anyway, I am learning it all slowly, thanks for your help.

In future, can I update it / check for updates the same way as with sudo apt-get update and upgrade? I mean with pip?

Andy

Thanks again I appreciate it. I found it eventually in python

but it doesn't look anything like yours! I wonder how long it will be before there's a distro package for it? It'll be a while before I can get familiar enough to do this installation stuff, with my current level of knowledge I will probably break stuff and I still have not managed to get a bootable clone set up. Once I have that, I'll feel braver!

Thanks a lot for your effort, it's very good of you.
Andy

Hi thanks for replying.

I can't even find the folder! I tried putting it on the desktop (via right click), and all the other places it could show, but none of them let me get to where the actual app is, and search finds nothing, which is odd because I have things with electrum in the name even on the desktop. Reminds me of windows! I'll have to spend more time with the system before I can do much. It's only been a week so far.

Still it works ok so not such a problem really. I just don't like error messages I dont understand cos usually they mean 'in 2 weeks I am going to render myself totally unusable cos you didn't attend to this, and I'll take your whole system with me.'.
Cheers
andy

Hi,
I'm getting this error when I launch electrum. The window opens fine and all seems to work but can anyone tell me what;s wrong?

andy@HP ~ $ electrum
"sni-qt/27117" WARN  17:17:58.597 void StatusNotifierItemFactory::connectToSnw() Invalid interface to SNW_SERVICE

Using v 2,6,4 on linux mint 18

Cheers
Andy

I need to add an API interface to a website. It's a reseller account for VPSs and is just to access the shutdown, reboot, reinstall etc functions. The API is fully documented and is not massively complex.
Needs to be cheap!

Please PM me
Thanks
Andy

thanks for posting. I'll just count myself lucky to have got one small payment and move on. Shame because it's a nice site.