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61  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ ICO CLOSED on: October 06, 2016, 03:15:58 PM
Your Bounties
CLAIM WAS SUCCESSFUL

So this is mean you got our email, right?

Good luck to the team, everyone enjoys the best project in this year

It means they didn't read your email since their inbox probably exploded by now,
but the "more or less automated" validation process made a good job anyways.  Wink
62  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ ICO CLOSED on: October 04, 2016, 06:59:57 PM
YOU HAVE UNTIL OCTOBER 7. 2016, 06:00 UTC TO CLAIM YOUR BOUNTIES. Any claims received after this end date will not be accepted!


Read carefully here:
https://medium.com/iconominet/claim-your-iconomi-bounty-reward-d5e6cd87d8da


For any bounty discussions use this chat:
https://telegram.me/iconomiicobounties

what about those who didn't create an ICONOMI ICO account?
I only join the twitter campaign though Smiley and hey few coins are still coins lol how do i claim them when i didn't create an ICONOMI ICO account.

Well, just read the link you quoted and you will learn that you just have to create one...  Smiley
It's the link you quoted just under the 'Read carefully here' you quoted too....
63  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ ICO CLOSED on: October 04, 2016, 01:36:11 PM
This was my first ICO.. and i have one regret.. why didn't I buy more during ICO  Huh Cry now the Cat/Mouse game will begin to hunt for dumped bounty tokens  Angry

and you will probably be able to buy below ico price. Bounties are always dumped.

@topic
any news about the first exchange to list ICN? probably bittrex, right?

not yet.
my predict it is probably bittrex. just waiting announce few more days.

I don't want to jump to conclusions, but, well ... I'll just leave this here.

https://twitter.com/iconominet/status/779268781008941056
64  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ ICO OPEN | ICO CLOSED on: September 30, 2016, 04:08:00 PM
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest_funded_crowdfunding_projects

Interesting times indeed.  Grin
65  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ ICO OPEN | less than 30h to go on: September 29, 2016, 07:07:14 AM
my question wasn't actually answered... will we still receive dividends if don't withdraw out Iconomi tokens from the ICO platform? Does anyone know?
the ETH address you give Iconomi.net will be the one recieving everything, unless you transfer the ICN to another ETH address, then it gets the dividends... The dividends follow the tokens, wherever ETH address they go to, including exchange accounts... who tend to keep many tokens in cold storage, so keep that in mind at dividend time.

So the exchanges can potentially keep the dividends? That's not good for trading, because who's going to want to keep their coins at an exchange.

That would actually be a pretty good news for the tokens' worth if everyone just hodls them.  Grin

Anyways, I think exchanges are going to figure out a way of splitting the dividends to ICN token holders.
Definitely doable, just look at what they did with the ETC distribution to ETH holders.
66  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ ICO OPEN | final days to invest on: September 28, 2016, 10:34:12 PM
"We will cover all the costs of the VISA debit card (including issuing, shipping and membership costs) for the first year - it’s yours completely free!"

What are membership costs after the first year?

On the same level as any other VISA issued debit card. We will communicate details once we are closer to issuing the cards...

-Jaka Mele, ICONOMI

Who is 'We'  ?  
Iconomi ? The platform ? The service operator ? Cashila ?

Does anybody know what level is that ?
Serious question, mine costs me literally 0 EUR.
we means we the investors obviously.Visa shipping and other costs will be paid from ICO funds,I dont think ICONOMI needs to distribute visa cards to their token holders,Absolutely a futile exercise in my opinion

Seems like your butthurt

Seems like his.  Grin

He has a point, though. Considering that dividends will be opex free as long as there is remaining ICO money for Cashila to operate the platform, using ICO money to provide perks to some investors is a direct expenditure on everyone's dividends. If any.

dude... even so, like 20 bucks a card is a total of $5,580.00 of 6,500,000.00, a VERY small microscopic portion.
...sounds more like he may not be qualified for the card, and a bit of jealousy showing.  Wink

Most likely the Visa Tx's are a Cashila function, and therefore the funds may come from Cashila as an investment on their part.

Completely agreed. But I gotta admit I'm a bit jealous too. Would have loved to brag with that black card. Grin
...You still have time! (sell the kids) hehe
... I think others will get it by just paying a small shipping fee or something was mentioned...

I'm not sure whether to frame it or actually carry it in my wallet to show off hehe
Will I use it? Hmmm...
I think I'm more likely to continue compounding earnings for awhile before I would.
(after testing it ofc)  Wink

Well, I actually sold some of my kids...
Farewell ETHs, you and your brothers made papa proud.  Cry

Definitely going to try it. Afterwards, I'll probably end up losing it or getting an 'unreadable card' message for some random reason...  Grin
67  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ ICO OPEN | less than 30h to go on: September 28, 2016, 10:29:24 PM
Im interested in investing a small amount in ICN

but i will wait the last hour to send  

i have no fear of the early investors, i don't think price will be under ICO level for weeks

If you're going to invest might as well do it now. If a big whale decides to invest and pushes it over the cap, then the ICO ends right then and there.
Valid point.




Seems like we're going to 21k after all !  Cool
68  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ ICO OPEN | less than 30h to go on: September 28, 2016, 10:00:32 PM
Hey everyone, hey weirdgod,

Any idea when we'll get the hashes to put on blog posts to get the blog bounties ?
Sorry if the question has been adressed already but I didn't find the info and don't want to miss it  Smiley

Thanks.
69  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ ICO OPEN | final days to invest on: September 27, 2016, 11:07:33 PM
Hi Diplo!

OK, I'm confused.  ICONOMI has been very successful and has now gone over the 10,000 BTC mark.  Does this mean we are all now going to get both ICN and ICNX tokens, with the ICNX tokens being paid for by all donations over 10,000 BTC?

I don't think so. IMO, we won't get ICNX tokens for investing in the ICO, but ICN tokens will :
The platform itself is investing into its own performance.fund product, which means each ICN will also own a part of the fund on top of a part of the platform, hence making each ICN token worth more.

Of what I have been reading the excess funds will be put into the performance fund.

So for example if they get 12000 BTC the 2000BTC will be running for the performance.index and we get 20% of the ROI in dividends.

Yup. Leads to an interesting question though : who decides what happens to the ROI of this platform-owned ICNX ? Does the ROI turn into dividends or does it have to stay on the fund to sustain growth ?
No way to vote for this AFAIK, whitepapers mentioned the only possible vote by token holders would be for changing the service operator.

There's 2 funds to begin with:

iconomi.index - tracks the ICNX index - takes around a 2% management fee (fee not yet set in stone) - freely tradeable tokens on exchanges

iconomi.performance - invests into new ICOs - takes around a 20% performance fee (fee not yet set in stone) - private fund which does not have tradeable tokens (only a "investment process" and "redemption process")   <-------------- This is the fund they said excess BTC is going into

Hmm I see. Thanks. That explains a lot.
So that means ROI of the platform-owned tokens of the performance.fund will be paid in dividends no matter what  ?  
Seems like I have a lot of homework to do on ETFs now..

Another question : Does this debit a holder's ICN account or their ICNX account?

Nice perk, thanks!

I'm also confused on how exactly the debit card works.  For example if I make a $1000 swipe, what is happening behind the scenes?

It was mentioned they would just put a sell order on some of your assets for $1000.
Now wht happens if the order isn't fulfilled  ?
70  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ ICO OPEN | final days to invest on: September 27, 2016, 10:30:23 PM
"We will cover all the costs of the VISA debit card (including issuing, shipping and membership costs) for the first year - it’s yours completely free!"

What are membership costs after the first year?

On the same level as any other VISA issued debit card. We will communicate details once we are closer to issuing the cards...

-Jaka Mele, ICONOMI

Who is 'We'  ?  
Iconomi ? The platform ? The service operator ? Cashila ?

Does anybody know what level is that ?
Serious question, mine costs me literally 0 EUR.
we means we the investors obviously.Visa shipping and other costs will be paid from ICO funds,I dont think ICONOMI needs to distribute visa cards to their token holders,Absolutely a futile exercise in my opinion

Seems like your butthurt

Seems like his.  Grin

He has a point, though. Considering that dividends will be opex free as long as there is remaining ICO money for Cashila to operate the platform, using ICO money to provide perks to some investors is a direct expenditure on everyone's dividends. If any.

dude... even so, like 20 bucks a card is a total of $5,580.00 of 6,500,000.00, a VERY small microscopic portion.
...sounds more like he may not be qualified for the card, and a bit of jealousy showing.  Wink

Most likely the Visa Tx's are a Cashila function, and therefore the funds may come from Cashila as an investment on their part.

Completely agreed. But I gotta admit I'm a bit jealous too. Would have loved to brag with that black card. Grin
71  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ ICO OPEN | final days to invest on: September 27, 2016, 10:26:14 PM
Hi Diplo!

OK, I'm confused.  ICONOMI has been very successful and has now gone over the 10,000 BTC mark.  Does this mean we are all now going to get both ICN and ICNX tokens, with the ICNX tokens being paid for by all donations over 10,000 BTC?

I don't think so. IMO, we won't get ICNX tokens for investing in the ICO, but ICN tokens will :
The platform itself is investing into its own performance.fund product, which means each ICN will also own a part of the fund on top of a part of the platform, hence making each ICN token worth more.

Of what I have been reading the excess funds will be put into the performance fund.

So for example if they get 12000 BTC the 2000BTC will be running for the performance.index and we get 20% of the ROI in dividends.

Yup. Leads to an interesting question though : who decides what happens to the ROI of this platform-owned ICNX ? Does the ROI turn into dividends or does it have to stay on the fund to sustain growth ?
No way to vote for this AFAIK, whitepapers mentioned the only possible vote by token holders would be for changing the service operator.
72  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ ICO OPEN | final days to invest on: September 27, 2016, 10:13:16 PM
"We will cover all the costs of the VISA debit card (including issuing, shipping and membership costs) for the first year - it’s yours completely free!"

What are membership costs after the first year?

On the same level as any other VISA issued debit card. We will communicate details once we are closer to issuing the cards...

-Jaka Mele, ICONOMI

Who is 'We'  ?  
Iconomi ? The platform ? The service operator ? Cashila ?

Does anybody know what level is that ?
Serious question, mine costs me literally 0 EUR.
we means we the investors obviously.Visa shipping and other costs will be paid from ICO funds,I dont think ICONOMI needs to distribute visa cards to their token holders,Absolutely a futile exercise in my opinion

Seems like your butthurt

Seems like hisGrin

He has a point, though. Considering that dividends will be opex free as long as there is remaining ICO money for Cashila to operate the platform, using ICO money to provide perks to some investors is a direct expenditure on everyone's dividends. If any.
73  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ ICO OPEN | final days to invest on: September 27, 2016, 10:03:56 PM
Hi Diplo!

OK, I'm confused.  ICONOMI has been very successful and has now gone over the 10,000 BTC mark.  Does this mean we are all now going to get both ICN and ICNX tokens, with the ICNX tokens being paid for by all donations over 10,000 BTC?

I don't think so. IMO, we won't get ICNX tokens for investing in the ICO, but ICN tokens will :
The platform itself is investing into its own performance.fund product, which means each ICN will also own a part of the fund on top of a part of the platform, thus making each ICN token worth more.
74  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ ICO OPEN | final days to invest on: September 27, 2016, 09:36:40 PM
"We will cover all the costs of the VISA debit card (including issuing, shipping and membership costs) for the first year - it’s yours completely free!"

What are membership costs after the first year?

On the same level as any other VISA issued debit card. We will communicate details once we are closer to issuing the cards...

-Jaka Mele, ICONOMI

Another question : Does this debit a holder's ICN account or their ICNX account?

Nice perk, thanks!

Apparently both. There will be an app which will enable you to prioritize the assets you want debited first.
75  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ ICO OPEN | final days to invest on: September 27, 2016, 09:34:22 PM
"We will cover all the costs of the VISA debit card (including issuing, shipping and membership costs) for the first year - it’s yours completely free!"

What are membership costs after the first year?

On the same level as any other VISA issued debit card. We will communicate details once we are closer to issuing the cards...

-Jaka Mele, ICONOMI

Who is 'We'  ?  
Iconomi ? The platform ? The service operator ? Cashila ?

Does anybody know what level is that ?
Serious question, mine costs me literally 0 EUR.
76  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ ICO OPEN | final days to invest on: September 27, 2016, 08:09:58 PM
While we wait for the end of ICO, here's an article from next week's Fortune magazine that's worth reading...

http://fortune.com/ethereum-blockchain-vitalik-buterin/

Thanks Mal. By far the best read I've had about ETH on mainstream media.
Very interesting point made by the Accenture guy btw.
77  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ ICO OPEN | final days to invest on: September 26, 2016, 12:59:14 PM
There are types of fund--CTF AND CMF, there is only one type of token-ICN
But I want to only buy CTF, is it possible?
Because I don't want to track the news of so many coins.
If I buy CTF, It means I buy a bucket of coins.

Yay, you can. That's the very point of it. Smiley
No need for ICN in that case. Index will provide a bucket for you.
78  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ ICO OPEN on: September 24, 2016, 07:41:22 PM
I put down 1000 BTC in this project, so I hope it succeeds.

JK.  

Is this true? or just a random joke because the total investment now is ~5.5 million dollars.

From what I saw today 1 ICN costs 0.000085 BTC, what do you think guys will the price be after the ICO?

It's some random joke. JK means "Just Kidding"
There is a EUR 200K whale though, which is about 400 BTC...

I think ICO will close at around USD 6M, which would mean 1 ICN would be worth USD 0.06 or about 0.00001 BTC.

How do you know there is euro 200k whale?

It's on ICONOMI's very own video proof for EUR deposits :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nl8aweoeQeo


one 200K guy, a couple 100K ones, several 50K, and afterwards some 30K, 20K and a shitload of 10K deposits.
I'll have a few questions concerning the top holders topic for tomorrow's reddit AMA.
79  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ ICO OPEN on: September 24, 2016, 07:31:17 PM
I put down 1000 BTC in this project, so I hope it succeeds.

JK.  

Is this true? or just a random joke because the total investment now is ~5.5 million dollars.

From what I saw today 1 ICN costs 0.000085 BTC, what do you think guys will the price be after the ICO?

It's some random joke. JK means "Just Kidding"
There is a EUR 200K whale though, which is about 400 BTC...

I think ICO will close at around USD 6M, which would mean 1 ICN would be worth USD 0.06 or about 0.00001 BTC.
80  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ ICO OPEN on: September 24, 2016, 05:38:54 PM
What's the threshold of investment for us to receive said debit card?
Good question mate. there must be minimum investment requirement but i don't know the amount. waiting for the answer from someone

No threshold to be eligible for the card, AFAIK, it's free.
The minimum amount invested is for the free shipping costs, and no official amount was communicated by the team yet.
I read 2 BTC somewhere, but it's not decided yet.


Not only free shipping but special design they said and maybe some other perks?

Two different things.
Special design is for all ICO investors. Apparently, it will read "ICONOMI founders' club".
Free shipping comes with a threshold though.
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