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61  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] INFINITECOIN - UPDATE TO 1.8.8 visit INFINITECOIN.COM on: June 16, 2017, 02:09:46 AM
The Buying Spree continues!!!!  3.4 Million Volume so far today.  Buy 10 Million for $1.75k, hold on to it and I have a hunch you'll be amazed.  A "hunch":

           "A feeling or guess based on intuition rather than known facts."

After all has been surveyed, quantified, compared and studied, one is still left with an unknown!  

Sometimes hunch have a place; I said sometimes.  Just think that in 1998 AOL (America Online) had better all around fundamentals than Amazon, yet today we know that having 1k shares of Amazon would have proved much better.

At this time, IFC is simply missing a Kick-butt Dev Team, if they, whomever they are, will rise to the occasion, IFC would at least have a chance of competing.  
62  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [$XVG] VERGE [POW][MultiAlgo][BLACKHOLE][Entire Line of TOR/i2P Resources] on: June 16, 2017, 01:03:13 AM
roadmap is posted. should have some more checkmarks within the next week too =]

https://raw.githubusercontent.com/vergecurrency/vergecurrency.com/master/images/roadmap.png

Dev, do you thing that Ticks in circles should be more visible?

I had to try hard to see which things are completed, because ticks are not bolded, neither visible enough in my opinion.

Ticks should stand out to make a statement Smiley

What do you think?

yeah we can do that, but we aren't going to change the entire thing. maybe make the check marks stand out more.

this is the roadmap until it's complete, then we'll make a new one after all these things are done.

Will you guys be releasing a lite wallet and also an IOS wallet?? thasnk

weve already release a lite wallet. right now, we are looking into iOS options.

May I know pls when RSK contracts are scheduled to be released? Thank you.

they are still in testnet for bitcoin, so when they're completed for bitcoin, that's when we'll start. do you currently use RSK contracts for ethereum?

if so, what are the parts you like the most/least?

These questions are what I had in mind when suggesting approximate target dates for Road Map implementation.  Target dates provide guidance to those checking things out and ultimately provides confidence in Dev Team as they continue to implement according to projections - it builds credibility in the whole project which goes a long way in attracting and keeping new money and right new "New Mone" it's where is at.  Also a brief summary of each mile marker on the road map would help with those not necessarily tech savvy but ver money savvy. 

we already have that on our website roadmap. maybe you need to ctrl+F5 so you can refresh your cache and see it.

Beautiful!!!
63  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XVG] Verge - Speculation & Discussion on: June 16, 2017, 01:02:07 AM
I'm trading with cryptocoins for years, and IMHO I should say a lot of Verge coin traders are among the worst I have ever seen during my time.


For example, let's take a look at this image:





One of the basic rules to trade right and push the price up is never sell a chuck of your coin in one shot, to do it right you should sell it up bit by bit, otherwise it will push the price down and a lot will consider it as a dump sign (False one though) once such stupid sell walls will be trucked up, like shown in the previous image. A minute ago before the time the image was taken, there was some 45 BTC fake wall was taken down and the price was going up. I'm not sure what were they thinking by making another wall using their sell orders


There is some amateur whale which I believe he knows nothing much about trading and how to attract new investors. I'm talking about that one who keeps making fake sell walls of 45-50 BTC, making such fake walls (rapidly) will do nothing but it will push the investors away, in another words the price will eventually go too down and at some point it will hard to recover because the new investors will be worry about getting their money into a coin when some whale like that is keep pushing it down. The funny part among this tragedy is it will leave the whale at some point with big bag of no good coins (Bag holder).

i totally disagreed with you ..  only 1 % i can consider what you said (only for SCAM coin )
if you had trade before with RDD or DGB ..  then you can see the same BTC put on the wall but the Whales eat that wall in just couple of hours

so if you are going to trade some altcoin then must read about that coin
then Jump . dont see the wall  Grin
I'm trading with cryptocoins for years, and IMHO I should say a lot of Verge coin traders are among the worst I have ever seen during my time.


For example, let's take a look at this image:

One of the basic rules to trade right and push the price up is never sell a chuck of your coin in one shot, to do it right you should sell it up bit by bit, otherwise it will push the price down and a lot will consider it as a dump sign (False one though) once such stupid sell walls will be trucked up, like shown in the previous image. A minute ago before the time the image was taken, there was some 45 BTC fake wall was taken down and the price was going up. I'm not sure what were they thinking by making another wall using their sell orders


There is some amateur whale which I believe he knows nothing much about trading and how to attract new investors. I'm talking about that one who keeps making fake sell walls of 45-50 BTC, making such fake walls (rapidly) will do nothing but it will push the investors away, in another words the price will eventually go too down and at some point it will hard to recover because the new investors will be worry about getting their money into a coin when some whale like that is keep pushing it down. The funny part among this tragedy is it will leave the whale at some point with big bag of no good coins (Bag holder).

So am I to conclude that the success of a coin is pegged to trading tactics?  A fine trading strategy will attract new investors?  How about the objective of the coin, the development behind it, it's ground gains as it relates to adoption and a great community behind it; are these meaningful?  I agree if one's objective is to pump & dump and make or loose a quick penny than the suggested tactics might matter a bit, but if the objective goes beyond childish gains then one should keep focused on the long term strategy of a coins' end result; that is to say on a coins' adoption according to its intended purpose. 

If the a coins' objective is to become a transactional currency then each time it's implemented in commerce or as an exchange of value one could say the coin is moving forward and gaining in value.  That's the focus of Verge, we're a currency that's focused on privacy and its long term value is ultimately tied to its adoption.


Any coin's success is based on this equation = Coin's achievements (Specifications + New/Exclusive Features) + Investors (Attracting new investors + Market Stability)

 
I never said the success of a coin is all about - trading how it's being traded -. Verge - and I agree with you - holds a promising future with its implemented (and what will be implemented later on) features, I was not questioning its features or what it can brings, however and if I may disagree with you, yes the stability of its price and its steadily growth and the way being traded of course plays undeniable role about attracting new investors to the game and specifying its price, especially when we are talking about its recent growth, the coin is still building a new floor for its name after long time of hibernation. Like any other crypto (or stock market),  any investor at some point may not prefer to keep his money on (for awhile) with a volatile market when some whale(s) are keep pushing it down like this (periodically) plus the way it's being traded which leads a lot to worry about getting their money in and making it questionable to some point about how much the coin's price can reach.

By saying this I do not deny there will be always a price/market manipulation by few whales with any coin, but the way it's being done is either making the coin going up or it make it lose its some of its real potential to compete up



First and foremost I'm very glad to be part of a constructive and high quality conversation - your response exudes decency.  

I agree with what you're conveying and I believe that essentially we're on the same page, in the same spirit and aiming for the same outcome.  I believe my enthusiasm is a little more in line with bringing community awareness about the unavoidability of some traders coming into the space with slick trading tactics and with nothing more in mind than to make a quick penny.  Their only intent is the exploitation of quality projects in order to fulfill their short term goals.  These can sense upward momentum perhaps because they can see certain attributes, uniqueness or overall positive qualities of some projects, so they feel comfortable enough to even manipulate prices to a downward spiral just to gain buying opportunities.  

The short term price pickers are unavoidable and they might be applauded by some as they move through the space and make their quick penny but it's also good to know and to concrete into ones' mind that there's a better way when it comes to investing in quality projects with promising futures.  The more excellent way is investing in a project and maintaining that investment through the roller coaster ride until the foundation is laid.  The fact is that when quality projects take off they become harder to manipulate.  There seems to be an inverse relationship between the rise in price of a coin and the level of manipulation; the higher the price of a coin the harder it becomes to manipulate that coin.  The opportunity to influence price will always exist but it becomes less and less accessible.  

With a coin like $XVG, there are many plausible attributes:  An amalgamated community, a real world need for our coin, a forward looking and responsive development team and a perfect timeliness for what we have to offer.  I say Verge Currency has a future and I'll say to all that are willing to maximize profits by being patient, that you have found a home with $XVG.
64  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [$XVG] VERGE [POW][MultiAlgo][BLACKHOLE][Entire Line of TOR/i2P Resources] on: June 15, 2017, 07:32:37 PM
roadmap is posted. should have some more checkmarks within the next week too =]

https://raw.githubusercontent.com/vergecurrency/vergecurrency.com/master/images/roadmap.png

Dev, do you thing that Ticks in circles should be more visible?

I had to try hard to see which things are completed, because ticks are not bolded, neither visible enough in my opinion.

Ticks should stand out to make a statement Smiley

What do you think?

yeah we can do that, but we aren't going to change the entire thing. maybe make the check marks stand out more.

this is the roadmap until it's complete, then we'll make a new one after all these things are done.

Will you guys be releasing a lite wallet and also an IOS wallet?? thasnk

weve already release a lite wallet. right now, we are looking into iOS options.

May I know pls when RSK contracts are scheduled to be released? Thank you.

they are still in testnet for bitcoin, so when they're completed for bitcoin, that's when we'll start. do you currently use RSK contracts for ethereum?

if so, what are the parts you like the most/least?

These questions are what I had in mind when suggesting approximate target dates for Road Map implementation.  Target dates provide guidance to those checking things out and ultimately provides confidence in Dev Team as they continue to implement according to projections - it builds credibility in the whole project which goes a long way in attracting and keeping new money and right new "New Mone" it's where is at.  Also a brief summary of each mile marker on the road map would help with those not necessarily tech savvy but ver money savvy. 
65  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] INFINITECOIN - UPDATE TO 1.8.8 visit INFINITECOIN.COM on: June 15, 2017, 02:47:33 AM
Over 3 Million Volume again today.  Tell me someone's not scooping this thing up!  Somebody's buying big time on a daily basis.  What's up?  Who's buying?
66  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [$XVG] VERGE [POW][MultiAlgo][BLACKHOLE][Entire Line of TOR/i2P Resources] on: June 15, 2017, 02:42:31 AM
Some of us in the community want to be long term holders of $XVG  any thoughts of implementing PoS?  This would be an awesome eco friendly option to all wanting to go very long on coin plus it would provide much value.

Agreed! Would LOVE this future, im hodling!

we are considering energy efficiency in the future, but right now some of our PoW algorithms are already very energy efficient

Good to hear this since Staking Dividends are quite an incentive to Holders.  Vitalik's been dying to implement PoS for a reason.  Store of Value for commercial purposes (my ability to buy and sell with a certain currency) makes any coin valuable.  Some coins have gotten so high that they're not going to fulfill their intended destiny of being a currency since a whole coin is no longer accessible to the masses.  Folks like to transact in wholes.  I rather own $5.00 USD than 0.00001 of anything else - I believe it's how people think.  I rather have 10 $Verges than .000001 of something else.
67  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XVG] Verge - Speculation & Discussion on: June 15, 2017, 12:38:33 AM
I'm trading with cryptocoins for years, and IMHO I should say a lot of Verge coin traders are among the worst I have ever seen during my time.


For example, let's take a look at this image:





One of the basic rules to trade right and push the price up is never sell a chuck of your coin in one shot, to do it right you should sell it up bit by bit, otherwise it will push the price down and a lot will consider it as a dump sign (False one though) once such stupid sell walls will be trucked up, like shown in the previous image. A minute ago before the time the image was taken, there was some 45 BTC fake wall was taken down and the price was going up. I'm not sure what were they thinking by making another wall using their sell orders


There is some amateur whale which I believe he knows nothing much about trading and how to attract new investors. I'm talking about that one who keeps making fake sell walls of 45-50 BTC, making such fake walls (rapidly) will do nothing but it will push the investors away, in another words the price will eventually go too down and at some point it will hard to recover because the new investors will be worry about getting their money into a coin when some whale like that is keep pushing it down. The funny part among this tragedy is it will leave the whale at some point with big bag of no good coins (Bag holder).

So am I to conclude that the success of a coin is pegged to trading tactics?  A fine trading strategy will attract new investors?  How about the objective of the coin, the development behind it, it's ground gains as it relates to adoption and a great community behind it; are these meaningful?  I agree if one's objective is to pump & dump and make or loose a quick penny than the suggested tactics might matter a bit, but if the objective goes beyond childish gains then one should keep focused on the long term strategy of a coins' end result; that is to say on a coins' adoption according to its intended purpose. 

If the a coins' objective is to become a transactional currency then each time it's implemented in commerce or as an exchange of value one could say the coin is moving forward and gaining in value.  That's the focus of Verge, we're a currency that's focused on privacy and its long term value is ultimately tied to its adoption.
68  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [$XVG] VERGE [POW][MultiAlgo][BLACKHOLE][Entire Line of TOR/i2P Resources] on: June 14, 2017, 08:54:22 PM
new roadmap graphic is up on our main site, vergecurrency.com

Much love for the new Website but what happened to the ROADMAP TIMELINE?  Would be nice to have each item on Roadmap be a Link pointing to a subject expansion paragraph and an "implementation by" date.  If it's supposed to be like this it's not working on my end.

Would be nice to have new site feature a "Contact Us" link and also include a "Latest $XVG News" feed

Lastly, implementing  a quarterly or monthly "Newsletter" with an email sign-up option might be a good idea.

well, exact dates just aren't possible with some of the points. we can only put ~rough estimates. looks cleaner this way, and as long as people pay attention to our twitter and this thread, they'll know what's going on anyway.

BTW - I love this coin and I've vested myself in it. 

Website offers static presentation of goal, to do this with Twitter and Thread you'd have to post every hour.  Additionally, constantly meeting goals by an approximate date builds trust and confidence in the Developers and that goes a long way specially with all the "New Money" coming into the space.  A simple implementation  "Target Time Frame" expressed in a quarterly format keeps the "minimalist" style your aiming for.  I.e.,

RSK - Q3 2017
69  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [$XVG] VERGE [POW][MultiAlgo][BLACKHOLE][Entire Line of TOR/i2P Resources] on: June 14, 2017, 08:53:07 PM
new roadmap graphic is up on our main site, vergecurrency.com

Much love for the new Website but what happened to the ROADMAP TIMELINE?  Would be nice to have each item on Roadmap be a Link pointing to a subject expansion paragraph and an "implementation by" date.  If it's supposed to be like this it's not working on my end.

Would be nice to have new site feature a "Contact Us" link and also include a "Latest $XVG News" feed

Lastly, implementing  a quarterly or monthly "Newsletter" with an email sign-up option might be a good idea.

well, exact dates just aren't possible with some of the points. we can only put ~rough estimates. looks cleaner this way, and as long as people pay attention to our twitter and this thread, they'll know what's going on anyway.

Website offers static presentation of goal, to do this with Twitter and Thread you'd have to post every hour.  Additionally, constantly meeting goals by an approximate date builds trust and confidence in the Developers and that goes a long way specially with all the "New Money" coming into the space.  A simple implementation  "Target Time Frame" expressed in a quarterly format keeps the "minimalist" style your aiming for.  I.e.,

RSK - Q3 2017
70  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [$XVG] VERGE [POW][MultiAlgo][BLACKHOLE][Entire Line of TOR/i2P Resources] on: June 14, 2017, 08:44:08 PM
Some of us in the community want to be long term holders of $XVG  any thoughts of implementing PoS?  This would be an awesome eco friendly option to all wanting to go very long on coin plus it would provide much value.
71  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [$XVG] VERGE [POW][MultiAlgo][BLACKHOLE][Entire Line of TOR/i2P Resources] on: June 14, 2017, 08:39:34 PM
new roadmap graphic is up on our main site, vergecurrency.com




Much love for the new Website but what happened to the ROADMAP TIMELINE?  Would be nice to have each item on Roadmap be a Link pointing to a subject expansion paragraph and an "implementation by" date.  If it's supposed to be like this it's not working on my end.

Would be nice to have new site feature a "Contact Us" link and also include a "Latest $XVG News" feed

Lastly, implementing  a quarterly or monthly "Newsletter" with an email sign-up option might be a good idea.
72  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XVG] Verge - Speculation & Discussion on: June 14, 2017, 04:54:55 PM
I love the new Website but what happened to the ROADMAP TIMELINE on the Website?  A "roadmap" without an "accomplish by date" is like a peanut butter & jelly sandwich without jelly.

Also, good idea for New Site would be to have a "Contact Us" link and include a "Latest $XVG News" feed

Also, also, implement a quarterly or monthly "Newsletter" with an email sign-up option
73  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XVG] Verge - Speculation & Discussion on: June 14, 2017, 04:49:13 PM
I love the new Website but what happened to the ROADMAP TIMELINE on the Website?  A "roadmap" without an "accomplish by date" is like a peanut butter & jelly sandwich without jelly.

Also, good idea for New Site would be to have a "Contact Us" link and include a "Latest $XVG News" feed
74  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XVG] Verge - Speculation & Discussion on: June 14, 2017, 03:47:32 PM
I love the new Website but what happened to the ROADMAP TIMELINE on the Website?  A "roadmap" without an "accomplish by date" is like a peanut butter & jelly sandwich without jelly.
75  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] INFINITECOIN - UPDATE TO 1.8.8 visit INFINITECOIN.COM on: June 14, 2017, 02:52:23 PM
what about crowdfunding the dev whether a new team or the previous team?
There should first be a Dev Team to speak of, it seems like there missing in action.  Huh

From previous posts it looks like they are not interested, but there could be a new dev team. Plenty of devs out there like my self, but like how many have mentioned this effort would take funding.
Post who you are, what you've done and what you'll do as an IFC Dev;  That might be a start.  However, it's still my opinion that the Previous Dev Team is about to rise again and at this point they're just amassing the coin right now, because when the news hits, the coin is gonna explode. 

With all the new Coins and Platforms being released everyday most don't fit the bill for being a transactional currency.  IFC has this for itself, it can compete as a currency.

With this said I'm doing a little amassing myself.  Cheers!
76  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XVG] Verge - Speculation & Discussion on: June 14, 2017, 02:34:43 PM

Thought would be the best to always buy when it falls a few sats and sell when its up a few sats again. Turned out hodling would have been the better way.

 Grin Grin Grin of course. buy low, sell high. but for XVG: just hold one year.

"The stock market (The Crypto Market) is a device for transferring money from the impatient to the patient." -- Warren Buffett.   Cool
77  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] INFINITECOIN - UPDATE TO 1.8.8 visit INFINITECOIN.COM on: June 14, 2017, 02:54:43 AM
what about crowdfunding the dev whether a new team or the previous team?

There should first be a Dev Team to speak of, it seems like there missing in action.  Huh
78  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XVG] Verge - Speculation & Discussion on: June 14, 2017, 02:50:56 AM
What coin is closely relatable to XVG in terms of tech?
There is also other coin similar or better than this XBG,
The coin is under PoS so it ll alwys grow.
This new coin or a competitor to XVG was born end of last year, November 2016.

I would think these two coins would be great, I even think the other one is better.

I believe the objective of this thread is to make a case for VERGE CURRENCY. 
79  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XVG] Verge - Speculation & Discussion on: June 13, 2017, 09:54:48 PM
If this coin reaches $1.00 then that would make its market cap $13 Billion which would put it as the top alt coin excluding Bitcoin & Etherium. With a market cap this size it aint gonna reach $1.00 within 12 months sorry. Lucky to get to 30c if being honest. (Which would still put it around top 10)

I know we all want this coin to shoot the moon and it does have a great dev team but lets be realistic here..

yes, I think so. it can hit 0.3$ at the end of this year and it needs more time to reach 1$ . I believe in This Dev because he has worked hard for this project . I'm waiting for new actions coming in next weeks .

30cents by december?!

Good deal.  Wether $.03, $.30 or a $1.00 it's gonna need continuous aggressive action.  Things in the space are now moving faster than ever and we need to stay relevant - not a second to sleep.  It's gonna take Mining as well.  I remember buying my ETH Rigs last year at around this time and thinking I had made an error, specially after the ETH/ETC HF.  Today at $400 a pop I wished I would have purchased an army of Rigs.  The Verge Network needs Mining support from the community, a year from now we might be pleasantly surprised.
80  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] INFINITECOIN - UPDATE TO 1.8.8 visit INFINITECOIN.COM on: June 13, 2017, 07:27:40 PM
I have never had any problems syncing the official IFC wallet, works every time, transactions are really fast I think.. I always have 4 to 8 active connections to the network. This coin is really undervalued compared to similar coins. Just a little advertising could send it much higher. We do need more exchanges though..
All the volume is predominately asian market. US market can care less

Some care in the US Market. 

Either this is like some Magic Coin or someone is picking these suckers up by the millions right before some BIG ANNOUNCEMENT.   No active Dev Team yet high daily volume; something's up, don't unload your coins on the cheap, you'll be sorry.
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