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61  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: December 20, 2020, 10:02:11 PM


Everyone involved in Dash needs to step up and do their part in promoting Dash on all available platforms. Promote Dash on social media (Twitter, Youtube, Reddit, Facebook ...).

LOL  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Now the parasites that stole the common Treasury, denied rewards and even their elementary voting rights to holders with less than 1000 tokens (which does not happen even in a banana dictatorship) and told them that their DASH was only worth "to be spent". ... while they extracted all the wealth of the chain with their Mnodes ... THEY SEND THE SCAMMED PEOPLE TO WORK AND EXPAND THEIR SCAM !!!  Grin Grin Grin Grin



Average responses to tweets from Rtaylor, Manson, Valenzuela ... between ZERO and TWO.  Shocked   Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin  Roll Eyes Between zero and two answers is the interest achieved by the brightest minds in DASH, in their work of "educating" the world (you need to be narcissistic and pedantic, god!) with a project that this band received in the top 3 of the world crypto ranking, with 13 billion dollars. ...   Roll Eyes  Well...seldom is karma so fair !

Come on! ... now to invent multinicks and recreate with cheats 1% of what any normal and decentralized community gets for free (without 200 scammers in the high positions of the ponzi robbing everyone else, of course ...).
62  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: December 20, 2020, 05:37:56 PM
I see some grim discussion again around here.

All of us who have been in these markets for a long time, we know that there is something that governs everything, and this is BTC.

If BTC goes up everything goes up, and the opposite if it goes down
( ... )
Imagination can play tricks, but if we don't manage to have an ounce of gold, we can have 1/10 and we will understand anyway, that we have a portion of something valuable.



You assume too many things. BTC can be faced and even surpassed.

On the other hand, in a more mature sector, one should not look for gimmicky pyrotechnics and higher highs, but rather store of value and higher lows. imo. That is the key to attracting large amounts of capital.

The topical aspirations of "rich" instead of minnows of @xkcd for example, are a boutade as long as you cannot retain the wealth they bring with them (except for those who seek the easy "extraction" of that capital , of course ). The prosperous aspiration in crypto is in very long-term investors.

Although of course, with debates of Santa Claus and cartoons, anyone starts to argue that ...
63  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: December 20, 2020, 01:31:47 PM

This is the ridiculous philosophy of this Mason. The guy literally lives on another planet. Charging, which is not bad. It is what must have sustained DCG's defaults for years amid bad jokes, cosmetic news from worlds of color, endorsement of mediocre people of all kinds, calculated silences and including persecution of dissidents.

In the interview he speaks, in addition to his incredible desire to "educate the public" (like a suicide car in the opposite direction of the highway), the "power of marketing", that "the community" is key ... with his "tremendous job "on twiter - this individual's tweets get between zero and one or two responses on average, they are absolutely pathetic ... look at the ones from eth, BTCCash or Litecoin, which generate tens, hundreds of views of the REAL COMMUNITY cascading down - and its limitations to "create incredible gifs" at a particular level ... but expand them. In his world of lollipop and rainbows, he wants to activate a community that does not exist to spread childish designs to win the global blockchain market, currently raided by institutional investors, large investment funds and the varied band of Wall Street sharks almost in full . And that is the point of contact with the reality of this type of subject and the projection capacity of what you put in their hands, who treat a global EX-project of 13 billion as if they were making advertising flyers for a bar of your neighborhood or to your sister-in-law's baby clothing store.

The intrusive, monopolistic and repressive hierarchy of DASH has taken what 3 or 4 years ago was a solid POW, topped with a second layer of enormous added value, a robust, fast MONETARY concept, BASIC money, but very reliable and ideal to be used and obtain advantages for those who use it, impeccable to be implanted in immediate use cases from which to quickly position yourself at the top visible in the sector avoiding sophisticated developments that are delayed for years (which in the end, with their doubts and resets, is what What happened) ... and gives him the treatment of a kid's birthday party. They treat DASH like he's an ERC20 of eth that they try to shove among a gang of goofy teenagers armed with their crayons.


The drama is not that a fool lives in their fantasy worlds and has a brutal lack of assimilation of concept ... but that the centralization of DASH monopolizes the exercise of and creation, growth and direction in this regard. It is traced to Rtaylor's pathetic Tokenomics: The problem is not that it is stupid that does not resist half a minute of economic debate ... but that those who put this type of approach on the table, who name devs, CEOs, CMOs by name stack, because they are side by side in the process of strategy or production design, they have a total capacity to impose those debates and those narratives as mainstream options in DASH, because with 4 interventions launched on the Mnodes network, they always find a few complacent fools willing to align themselves with any nonsense or simply, line up out of modesty and not seem "too negative such complicated times" ... or at least, with "let them go" without saying clearly and en masse that "The king is naked" ... so those infiltrators in the executive layers of the project, with the board Hands in their hands, they continue to shape those mindless snowballs.

DASH needs to develop resources for MODULAR growth. Promote parallel, horizontal ... not vertical and dependent on a system of subsidies and even without them, centralized decision-making in 4 incapacitated people living in a cloud. The talent must be able to express itself outside of that elitist structure of execution that sends messages to another elitist layer of decision - the nodes - that meets almost "test-type" crossroads, packaged and canned, which practically reduces everything to choosing between cold shit and hot shit.

These parallel, horizontal, alternative approaches should be able to develop their first steps with ease, no matter how opposed they may be to the four mainstream lines of action that, without already having DASH NEWS to propagate, promote and consolidate them almost automatically, has the ability to emit express signals, direct communications, "messages in the bottle" to the community of Mnodes vertically, like a priest in a sermon from his pulpit and not horizontally, at the level of debate between trolls, eternal exchange of generic concepts of a community in need to express oneself, etc ... that simply dilute any theoretical initiative before it is born. When they arrive with their "official debate under their arms", they do not come to approve it, but, in any case, for the complacent "community" to participate in some tinkering ... and take a shower of "synergy and democracy."

Once a centralized and vertical power structure is consolidated, the bureaucracy takes care of the rest. By not "exposing itself" in any frontal confrontation with the decision layer, the practical actions are activated by inertia for the benefit of that executive layer that could get DASH tomorrow morning to produce ice cream or design sportswear, because the process is absolutely fallacious.

Right now, I invite a technically gifted developer to make a fork from which to promote the "central" project but integrating himself into it regardless of its interventionist and rusty hierarchy (behind or in front, as appropriate to productivity and creativity), putting obvious quick results on the table in terms of financial freedom, sustained growth, decentralization and resistance to censorship and developing immediate resources to push what is worthwhile if the end recipients see fit... before this burns on all four sides and there's no sound wood left to burn.

Attending this harakiri from the amphitheater is a real torture that, incredible as it may seem, every day is overcome.
64  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: December 20, 2020, 12:14:18 AM


I don't think a fork is needed if developers can build successful layers on top.    

Thanks for the feedback.

I don't need "on top" history", or any tax or mortgage. But absolute independence, results and meritocracy are necessary, with all the rigor , no problem.

Too many resources and time wasted already. I just need a well-meaning technician who is passionate about DASH. I don't want a proposal either, because I'm not looking to please the DAO hijackers, just contribute to DASH.
65  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: December 20, 2020, 12:02:59 AM

Mason and Valenzuela ride again. Nightmare Before Christmas


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0vE0hvDEk8&t=1996s


I'm watching the "planetary encounter" between these two clowns, two of the most noxious subsidized individuals in the history of DASH ... and my soul falls to my feet. And still making nostalgic winks to the manipulator, censor and intoxicator DASH NEWS, a fundamental piece so that all this parsitism has devoured one of the best jewels in the crypto universe. In a race of idiots between the two, a desert prize, because the two would be lost before reaching the goal. (yes, also in 100 m flat. Bet and shut up)

To make matters worse, the drag Queen Mason, now managing the image of Amanda B Johnsonn ... probably the only sure value that has survived all these years this rant of mediocrity and decadence of DASH. Without that in hand, who knows what new line of vulgarity she would be "working" on. You think of the positions that grotesques like these have been in within a $ 13 billion organization and get a thousand chills.

A collective organization in search of efficiency, talent and meritocracy should have resources so that such grotesque meddling does not prosper even half a step. The centralized structure of DASH does not work.


66  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: December 19, 2020, 11:26:46 PM
Shared masternodes might lock up a bit more of the supply in collatoral or 'staked' dash. But that won't address the problem of store of value any more than Ryan Taylors idea of enticing more masternodes with more portion of the supply

Shared Mnodes would only create a real community identified with the overall strengthening of the project, nothing more.

Of the centralized movements that seek only their particular benefit, we all already have the sample on the table.

Get a dev with me and we push it. Let's make it possible to grow in DASH behind this nonsense. It is.
67  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: December 19, 2020, 11:17:12 PM
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I've again provided this feedback to Ryan directly on the Dash Talk discord. I've already done this over a year ago, but it had no effect.

Ah ... well if you've given "Ryan" feedback directly ... between that and the ERC20 memes of fifth row teens ... top 5 in 3 days.

DASH was a world-class crypto-MONETARY project that has fallen into the hands of nobody and has been reinterpreted as any shitcoin and devoid of all that solidity and rigor. A few weeks ago in an interview, one who introduces himself as a "representative of a good number of Mnodes" boasted that "The Mnodes are like the Fed." Pathetic. Here, every day one arrives and releases the occurrence of it ... and so, they go years. That only reveals the project's total lack of direction.

The feedback that Mr. Rtaylor has to receive is the ideal one to feel like a reference employee, but an employee, of DASH. That person has not shown any contribution of value to DASH ... and he continues to be treated like a child who plays with his monopoly, it is absolutely amazing. On the contrary, the succession of breaches, excuses, meaningless work, or half done, which clearly indicate both incapacity and laziness and lack of demand, are, objectively, his business card.

But what can be expected of a group without any ethics or personal reference? Any visible head in DASH is more irrelevant than the last, if not embarrassingly ignorant and mediocre. The video uploaded a couple of days ago here of Contreras from Venezuela and Rodrigo from Brazil with the same nonsense of inflationary anecdotes of shopkeepers who give you a signed paper as a purchase voucher or bundles of gimmicky bills, while praising the "large figures of real adoption "is simply unworthy of being featured, with contributing a video from three years ago, it's the same. But everything remains the same, decadently the same ... lack of talent, movement out of sheer inertia and laziness. And the Mnode network, getting on the case of integral parasitism, robbing a community that does not exist ... and stealing a wealth that no longer exists, will rob even the walls. Even their leader Rtaylor has to convince them that spending the budget is not "spending free money" ... because both he and they believe that the Treasury money BELONGS TO THEM. And that is management. its legitimate role - in the face of appropriation - its self-imposed meddling -. And the delusion is such that the project must be clarified even at that conceptual level, which even a child would understand.

This won't be fixed from the inside, but with a developer doing a fork, it could be done perfectly. I'm still waiting for someone who is committed and technically gifted for that. With a professional on those terms and a price, I am ready for a MODULAR approach without changing anything in DASH that would instantly grow and lead by example. If someone is, or knows how to achieve it, I would greatly appreciate it to be able to get down to work and end all these tons of empty talk and the "I saw it first" that everyone here defends, because the lack of leadership and The course is such that everyone thinks they can fix this because everyone is the smartest.

With just a suitable dev, I bet my balls to stop talking and put an option on the table, because this is the never-ending story. Of course: An INTERACTIVE, HUG OR DISPOSABLE option, which only seeks to optimize DASH, ignoring the particular benefit of anyone. And the hierarchy that hijacks the project, let it follow what it wants with the bitten bone that does not release and its spiral of destruction and decay. With working without interference, enough.
68  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: December 19, 2020, 06:12:08 PM

It's definitely not a priority, but many people have been requesting this feature for a long time. So it would be nice to have a formal analysis when more time is available, to see what is actually possible and if the benefits outweigh the drawbacks.

Of course it is a priority. Beyond that, the fact that many people have requested it for a long time has occurred because DASH was engaged in its official channels, as well as in other media, on the lips of people installed at the top of the DASH hierarchy and all this paid by the DAO, to implement them. That's the difference between a business dissatisfaction and a scam. Although it is certain that if there were any movement, it would be disguised as "consideration for the needs of the user community", when in a decentralized structure, condescension, like trust, is simply unnecessary.



The truth is, we don't need any more masternodes. There is no immediate benefit to the end user. The focus of investment potential should be on Dash itself, not the masternodes in my opinion.

Of course the investment focus should be on the value of the asset ... but it is you who is constantly approaching it from the economic prism. The WORST thing about not offering shared Mnodes to the real DASH community (euphemistically, the "users") is the centralization with which the corrupt Mnodes gang manages to overstep their attributions as "workers of a service layer" to take them to the point to own the project completely. With the law in hand, you have not only the rewards and the "common" Treasury in your hands, but anything else that occurs to you at your entire disposal, such as premeditated and subsidized censorship and information intoxication, breaches that last YEARS, rentals of $ 55,000 of empty facilities, or silence in response to community members who demand explanations about it ... while the parasitic hierarchy continues in its advantageous positions and there are colored glasses parties on the DASH news channels. What in a project that hypocritically "sells" decentralization is perfectly reflected in the price.

Microholders don't need the modest rewards they can get from joining shared Mnodes as an incentive to sustain their DASH. But integrating into their FAVORITE cryptosystem, from which they are trickily marginalized, yes. On the contrary, and as a supposed aspiring decentralized organization, the one that does need a constant voting niche that decides in the interest of the general of the project and at least bothers large owners to impose their whims, is the DASH ecosystem.




I honestly think that Ryan is wrong to continue 'focusing' on South America. His stuborness on this strategy is worrying. No matter how well intended it is, it is wrong to put too much focus on a market in an underdeveloped region.

... and in alt36 ... and in imposing its dogma that adoption would stabilize the price of DASH for years (and take advantage of its information distortion channels veto and try to ridicule any debate on the matter while the crypto ranking was filled with stable coins and DASH was falling bare chest for 3 years) ... and fuming about Evolution's default going into its fifth year ... and doing so with a RIDICULAR store of value proposition - imo, knowingly -. But worse than that succession of erroneous strategies, including the one you point to and others that remain unmentioned, is, deep down, the insane ability to centralize decisions and opinion trends that one person has and the resignation of the "brilliant" Mnodes, guardians of efficiency in DASH, before it.



Honestly, everyone involved in Dash needs to step up and do their part in promoting Dash on all his available channels. Promote Dash on social media (Twitter, Youtube, Reddit, Facebook ...). Use your existing accounts or make new ones to talk about or promote Dash. Get active. Add comments about Dash to popular crypto videos, but also on Dash's official videos. Get the number of views and comments up. Add comments about Dash on tweets. Make memes. Whatever. Make noise. It will have much more effect than the 'Venezuela' adoption strategy. Hundreds, thousands of Dash holders spreading the message is far more powerful than what any single 'marketing' person can ever achieve.


LOL  Shocked Grin
 "Honestly" ? ..."everyone involved in DASH"? ... NOW? ... But ... we were not talking about "Mnodes community"? From "buy 5 Mnodes to have an opinion on DASH"?
( that's not yours, it's the typical arrogant and marginalizing Mnode contempt on Discord) ... You thought that cutting the neck of the REAL community WAS FREE, huh? ... Are you understanding why the integration of a massive real community is an INEXCUSABLE part of success in crypto? Why "not everything is money" in particular of Shared Mnodes? (or is it only for those who put it before dignity?)

Anyway ... you have a couple hundred people holding 5000 Mnodes ... call them to the front line. The network effect of that "popular tsunami" can be monstrous.
69  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: December 19, 2020, 10:09:33 AM
LOL on the entire 'ROI' discussion. It's not that important, but the term is obviously incorrectly used for Dash masternodes and staking projects for example.

ROI applies to anyone with 1 Dash or 10 masternodes. It is your return on your invested capital, thus in USD/EURO/... It can be positive or negative. It can be -98% or +10,000%.

Dash masternodes (and staking) coins give you a return or reward which is not ROI. Currently the masternode service reward is around 6%, but that is not 6% ROI. If that were true, Dash would be a scam. Ergo, Dash should never apply the ROI term when it comes to Dash masternodes.



I have no problem with that, it just means ROI has more then one specific definition.


Sure, sure ... you don't have it, we already know.  Smiley

The potential DASH buyers you are trying to cheat are the ones who have it ... "coincidentally" with your "usual" confusion always in the same direction: Your pocket.

I still remember price tag on Dash masternode during peak of masternode's hype back in 2017/2018. About 1.5 fuking million of dollars. People that actually bought 1000 coins for that price to set up masternode now probably live under a bridge  Roll Eyes

I used to communicate with a very kind person, humble, idealistic and quite receptive and objective in his judgments, owner of 3 Mnodes and integrated into the DASH structure at a fairly high level.

His frustration, and worst of him, his resignation and skepticism no longer in DASH, but in crypto in general were devastating. I never read the slightest PUBLIC criticism of the system, when in private,he made it clear that his idealism and altruism were tremendously attacked.

With nearly 5 million $ down the toilet, you have little more to do than hope to round them up from this point ... and fly out of this "bad dream." Even in the hypothetical case of recovering 4 figures , I would bet a finger that he is not even close to half to collect and flee like a soul chased by the devil.

They don't realize that decentralizing DASH and recovering a disregarded and thrown-away network effect is their best resource to turn it into a solid value ... or they simply don't have the least motivation to do so after such personal injury to a level that could have changed his life.

Unfortunately, many with more devices than him go free ride after a previous profit taking above and laugh no longer at the damage created with deception by action and/or omission, but at any aspiration of the ecosystem with respect to its initial values ​​... which, in public, of course, they continue to defend - I also know another case in that sense -. The enormous benefit that they have already secured not only does not invite them to optimize that project, but to more theft and more theater.
70  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: December 19, 2020, 06:18:35 AM
LOL on the entire 'ROI' discussion. It's not that important, but the term is obviously incorrectly used for Dash masternodes and staking projects for example.

ROI applies to anyone with 1 Dash or 10 masternodes. It is your return on your invested capital, thus in USD/EURO/... It can be positive or negative. It can be -98% or +10,000%.

Dash masternodes (and staking) coins give you a return or reward which is not ROI. Currently the masternode service reward is around 6%, but that is not 6% ROI. If that were true, Dash would be a scam. Ergo, Dash should never apply the ROI term when it comes to Dash masternodes.



I have no problem with that, it just means ROI has more then one specific definition.


 


Sure, sure ... you don't have it, we already know.  Smiley

The potential DASH buyers you are trying to cheat are the ones who have it ... "coincidentally" with your "usual" confusion always in the same direction: Your pocket.
71  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: December 19, 2020, 12:11:09 AM

This seems to be a no-brainer, trustless shared masternodes should be top priority after Dash Platform's release. And it shouldn't even be that complicated.

So what happens if you have 1000 contributors to a single trustless shared collateral address and one of them moves their funds ? The entire node stops receiving rewards ?

A queing system where leavers are swapped out for joiners ? How do you then manage all that without traffic windows where the node is unserviceable ? How do you manage priority ?

1000 contributors to a single collateral address? What?

No, what I clearly proposed was allowing for 10 separate 100 DASH UTXO collateral addresses (or alternatively 5 separate 200 DASH UTXO collateral addresses).

What happens when the 1000 DASH are moved from a masternode's collateral address right now? Isn't there a window where the masternode owner can move the collateral back before a check happens to kick them out of the payment queue? Why wouldn't it just work the same way with 5 or 10 collateral addresses? Just make sure they still hold what they originally went online with. And if not, then yes, the masternode is considered offline and removed from the payment queue. Nothing too complicated there.


But you don't want this managed by the protocol but instead some kind of institution or middle man? Not sure why, when crypto's huge success has arguably been because it has eliminated middle men.

With a bit if imagination it's not difficult to get the best of both worlds. Dash is a peer to peer monetary system and there's no change there but it isn't Dash's job to manage who owns its holdings and there's always going to be a contractural ecosystem "out there" away from the blockchain that grows around it. If you don't have clear demarkations between the two, you end up with nasty couplings into a world of business logic that's the thin end of a very large wedge of headaches. The gold trying to be the safe as well.

We do not want that IMO.

I don't really understand this argument. Sure, DASH can't and shouldn't want to manage trusted masternode services like CrowdNode and StakeHound. But why shouldn't we want DASH to support a 5 and/or 10 owner masternode? As a bonus this might actually be good for increased privacy. Because who's to say that the 5 or 10 collateral addresses are or are not owned by the same holder?

With a hard fork, accessing shared Mnodes on the original DASH chain is easy. Very easy. Whether the DAO hijackers like it or not.

The most surprising thing about all this party of scoundrels is that no dev with a passion for DASH has come out willing to recover the potential of this project. For my part, I'm still waiting for it.  This post is a call to it, for example. To a dev passionate about DASH ... and not the centralized slop that they have turned it into.

72  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: December 18, 2020, 05:41:15 PM

Tell that to messari and coindesk and all those other sites that have been using ROI as 'approximate return on investment if purchased at the time of launch, or earliest known price'.


They can also refer to the birth of Christ. Or the invention of the wheel. But that is not a valid reference for a potential investor TODAY, you shit con artist.

And those who look to DASH to value it as an investment, will see that since before ATH 2017, long before, the wealth of DASH is not amplified, but is systematically extracted. The benefits of early adopters (this time point is only valid for them, not for a current buyer) who want to fully appropriate the ecosystem have done up to that point, they don't give a shit to those who come to invest now : They see that there is an obvious drag on the chain from there. (The drain of wealth to the ATH ... and the flight of the outcast and scammed microholders, who do not keep their DASH tokens. The only thing that RTaylor did is get time and provide incentives for the idiots with more than a thousand tokens, who they are the ones who - deservedly - most ruin their own heritage, do not run away too).


pd : By the way and regarding smoke for dummies that you have dumped in previous posts ... the statistics that you falsely expose with Monero, LTC, eth, etc. dropping 50, 60 or 70% compared to ATH and DASH almost 93% are misleading. I advise newbies to read them.

The difference is not 30, 40 or 50% against DASH , as it might seem. To judge this reserve of value, it is necessary to reach THE RETAINED WEALTH, that is, 7% in DASH ... compared to that 30, 40 or 50% that the others retain ... with what those other currencies have retained 500, 600 or 700% MORE value than DASH. Absolutely ABISMAL differences. Of a "machine that did not work" compared to others.

And that is absolutely monstrous. And by the way, a large part of those idiots who have found themselves in an impasse with thousands of tokens in their possession and who see that their manipulation and appropriation of the ecosystem by centralizing it does not work and creates ruin instead of wealth (they DO they deserve it, those who were deceived, ruined and marginalized by their traps, no ) ... they are waiting for other fools to arrive to raise the price ... and fly away to leave others in their situation.

Obviously, undo their scam and DECENTRALIZE DASH as was the initial idea of ​​the project before they kidnapped it - which is what causes this lack of market interest - ... and let it flow by pure inertia to its full potential leaning in a network effect, like any other cryptocurrency does ... it's too complicated an idea for them. Sure, they did think they were rich believing RTaylor at the London 2017 world event claiming that "The sky was the limit" (while misleading businessmen and invited press there and the world public om line by confirming that at last , the testnet was ready to be launched a couple of months later - that is, knowing that it would not be delivered - ) and now, the centralized scam they created is worth ten times less and it is difficult to accept.  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy LOL

So all their PARTIAL "solutions" go through misleading statistics, confused words,  impossible decentralizations, etc ... while every week they see how the Bitcoins they had and exchanged fly for this garbage that, after destroying it, they want to put others in. I repeat it for the clueless ... in crypto, MASSIVE = DECENTRALIZED. Without that, there´s no solution. And since the DAO hijackers need the collaboration of a global user population who in another project, in addition to using crypto, will earn money ... you don't need to think much about the "perfect plan" of these geniuses ... geniuses only of the immorality.

In his sin of "too smart" guys, there is his penance.  Wink Grief is the incredible shattered project that we have all been deprived of.
73  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: December 18, 2020, 05:12:25 PM

Bravo!  I couldn't have said it better myself!  Are you coming around to the way of the SPORK21, Tok?  Grin  People buying 1000 DASH collaterals are however investors in the network, that is why Ryan Taylor tipped the scales to favour the Mnodes and drive further investment into DASH and not Bitmain.  He sounds like a smart guy don't he? Cheesy

For an idiot like you, yes  Cheesy ... because Rtaylor knows perfectly well the type of greedy illiterate to whom he directs his manipulative solutions. And with that criterion, almost standard in the network of retarded con artists, who can be surprised by a shameful debate of almost a page and a half of endless stupidity like the one you are giving us?

The "big fish" that your suicidal and aneuronal hipercentralized model - hipercentrazation which strips crypto of value - is looking for ...are not DASH holders with thousands of tokens that have not configured Mnodes, but OUT-of-DASH capital that you are trying to attract.

Therefore, any ROI oriented to that profile, must be estimated in BTC, fiat ethers, etc...  the capital contributed by the potential scammed ... but precisely NEVER in DASH. How much it can increase in these toxic dungs that you are offering, is irrelevant for any investor in the face of such a level of enormous objective risk. You're not looking for rich ... but rich idiots.

The absolute last straw is to expose it in terms of a centralized garbage that has failed to retain even 10% of its wealth since ATH. It's like offering to exchange Gold for radioactive dung. Or by shots to the temple. (Although, of course, it is the only thing you can expose, since any other reference is absolutely ruinous).

DASH is priced Spring 2017. The scam network has gobbled up any capital inflows since then. Now, even in S2F it drowns you, because in the middle of the crypto rally, it does not interest even the most idiots ... so that parasitic demand will not only devour the Treasury, but even the scab on the walls.

By the way, the TokNormal model is also wrong. Without endowing DASH with a real decentralization, the trend will continue to gobble up resources (in addition to becoming more concentrated with each step , aggravating the underlying problem).

The endogamous and claustrophobic measures in your obsessive framework in a loop of drain and destruction of wealth only contribute to error No. 1 that threatens the project: That you subordinate its growth to mass adoption, but you condemn the adopters to enrich a thieving elite , without them doing it themselves. Treatment that they will despise for the benefit of another chain that DOES integrate them fully and enriches their contribution.

It should be very easy to understand ... even for you.  Wink

74  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: December 16, 2020, 10:40:33 PM


I also think the masternode collateral serves as protection against sybil attacks. Maybe you remember this one ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bz6rFZQywOE
I have no idea how many masternodes are already running in 3rd party shared masternode services.

Far fewer than the REAL community that you promised, stole, marginalized and kicked out from your centralized trap would have set up. The original project was going like a shot ... until 4 arrogant conceits wanted to appropriate the chicken of golden eggs changing the rules in the middle of the game and centralizing the project. It wasn't all Evolution's subsidized botch.

And having MILLIONS of holders defending and expanding the currency. Like another BTC...and optimized. But calm ... you keep your money and "have no idea". Why bother?

Of course ... there is at least the poetic justice that the Mnodes have their tokens at a price of shit. Thieves ... of cow dung. Great artists. The great Mnodes and his stupid track record of decisions and cheating  are like the agronomist's dog: he neither eats nor allows others to eat.

By the way ... your "BTC wealth expansion to altcoins" theory is that, theory. BTC is no longer reliant on pumping & dumping on altcoins ... it is even dropping its dependence on Tether for Wall Street blessings and infinite fiat. A wall street that has a thousand options in crypto before enriching some redneck scammers who believed themselves to be the kings of the Mambo.

In any case, what experience says is that BTC can steal all the wealth of the rest when it wants, more the more speculative capital it has ... while you make up a ridiculous approach as a store of value solution. It is not that it is bad or good ... it simply DOES NOT AFFECT that objective, it is an excuse to cover up negligence and shenanigans ... and benefit (miserably) the accomplices of the robbery with their crumbs.

Any attempt to reinforce DASH, to endow it with stability ... has been sidelined from the debate for years by RTaylor, DASH NEWS and the whole cheating gang.
75  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: December 16, 2020, 07:31:34 PM

So yes, promoting Dash through using Trump memes is something i think we should try to avoid in here.


So...Make a proposal ... you already paid for the persecution and censorship of dissidents with funds from the DAO delivered to DASH NEWS, garbage men, that none of the crypto principles that you touch remain clean.


Well, well ... now the arrogant who trolled and ridiculed the others, even in group ... you ignore me ? Where are your arrogant scorn, my friend? Has the cat eaten your tongue, my boy?

You troll TokNormal because he believes that DASH can be changed from within, saving forms against your shameless shenanigans ... and it is not like that and also ties him hand and foot in the middle of a consensus of corrupt people sharing their cake. The first thing that inmoral scammers who loot the collective wealth that they manage, like any political class in the world robbing the public administrations they hijack, distort the rules and the gaming table, turning it into a closed LOOP in favor of the cheaters.
76  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: December 16, 2020, 05:31:45 PM

So far i have not heard anything negative about Binance (the international exchange, not the US exchange).



LOL ... among firefighters, they don't step on the hose!

Centralized currency scammer invites marginalized and stolen holders to hand over their coins to another centralized scammer like Binance. Any shitty exchange or hosting service can build Shared Mnodes ... but for the scammers who financed themselves for six years by tricking microholders into pouring their capital into the project ... "it's a very complicated implementation ...and more blablabla..." .

Of course ... the day they are stolen ... the DASH Holders, GET FUCKED !!! ( They have already collaborated to fatten "their" treasure chest ... The DAO kidnappers ... to keep sucking !!! )


DASH CRYPTO "REVOLUTION" !!!  Grin DECENTRALIZED !!!  Grin Grin FINANCIAL FREEDOM !!!  Grin Grin Grin YEAH !!!YEAH !!!YEAH !!!  Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
77  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: December 14, 2020, 11:11:12 AM
Ah!...I had not read the ridiculous baits that accompanied the graph of the fallacious "decentralization in thousands of points" with which DASH has been fooling the naive since the beginning of the project (and obviously wants to keep doing it).




Masternodes are enabling what Bitcoin and other crypto projects can't : to provide instant settlement of transactions, to provide protection against double spending and be more secure then Bitcoin. Masternodes are also the reason why Dash network can not be 51% attacked through proof of work. I will choose masternodes (Dash) and its fast transactions and its on-chain upscaling option (blocksize increase) and its low transaction fees over Bitcoin or similar crypto projects any day, regardless of 'production cost'. Simply because i value those features.

- A lier or simply a cocky ignorant : Thousands of other projects have thousands of characteristics ... which does not mean that they break the market with respect to the rest ... and worse, that they break the monetary STANDARD of BTC, an authentic tsunami of speculative capital at this point, which conditions ABSOLUTELY ALL THE WEALTH OF THE SECTOR sinking or projecting any project choosed for it. By the way ... the thieving Mnodes disguise your private assaults on the Common Treasury as attempts to consolidate a store of value , does not face the problem ... it is just another example of the infamous confusion of your corrupt show.




Also if exchanges run masternodes utilizing customer coins and can dump at almost any time, then why is our number of active masternodes over time not showing any of this ?
Looks more like wishfull thinking from your side.

- There are a thousand resources in a currency with huge distribution imbalances since its initial irregular distribution to camouflage statistics, even more so with an unreal and fallacious spectrum of decentralization points (the 5000 Mnodes are just a couple of hundred decentralized points, although you continually expose this figure as a reference for the decentralization of the network to deceive newcomers whose capital you want to parasitize). Of the transactions at minimum cost, perfect for making artificial movements with which to justify almost any level of activity or other tricks, we better not even talk ... it is a waste of time ...





Reminds me of Dash early years, when we had trolls like iCEBREAKER, who was convinced that masternodes would be dumped on the open market and totally crash the Dash market.
It did not happen then and it is not happening now.

- This is a perfect sample of the inbreeding of these immoral scammers and how it affects their minds regarding the most basic reasoning.
If someone is convinced of a theory, IT IS NOT A TROLL. It will be in any case, a wrong dissident. That belief is the basis of the authentic censorship that you have created in DASH against any dissent, even with common funds directed against legitimate opinions of the real community that you have marginalized, blocked and robbed.

Those who are immoral garbage - and imo, ILLEGAL and CRIMINAL - are those who know objective dangers of the project (unbalanced emissions, huge concentrations of tokens that centralize and corrupt the model, breaches such as Evolution's, which will lock up and block the holders during bear market years) ... but they distort and hide the inside information they gain from their privileged position in a ponzi hierarchy, preach contrary perspectives to those certainties, and encourage investment doomed to the failure of their capital contributors.

That's the scam you carry out at DASH, you scoundrels.








If an exchange is indeed running masternodes, i find it more likely that they want to be invested in Dash longterm and keep its market healthy.


- Keep its market healthy? its wealth ?  DASH? Burning a cap of almost 13 billion to a ridiculous 300 million? - 500 still today, when many projects have already increased their cap from the ground FOUR, FIVE,SIX TIMES - What is the profile of your potential investor? The severely retarded?

Any long-term investment in DASH is reckless as long as the project does not face the monetary standard of BTC in the sector ... a BTC with an increasingly monstrous capital compared to other projects and therefore, with more capacity for speculative movements about open-traded currencies that BTC wipes its ass with whenever it wants.

You are so idiotic that in almost seven years you don't even have a minimally reasonable approach against such an influential conditioner, which is the day-to-day of crypto volatility. Maybe you are too busy cheating and stealing and your mononeural limitation is not enough for you to do two things at the same time.

Summing up: Only with the three basic cryptocurrency principles

1-Decentralization
2- Financial freedom
3- Resistance to censorship.

... we have in DASH a real sanctuary from manipulation and foul play:

1- A few hundred owners of ALL Mnodes controlling the chain and constantly emptying their wealth, as a few naive ones contribute their capital.
2- a joke value reserve, with 98% roller coasters, a pure investment casino at the height not of cutting-edge projects, but of the worst shitcoins.
3- a corrupt system of information control and intoxication (to scam) and persecution of dissidents ( to marginalize and silence) ...really incredible.






Anyway ... less cheat and more optimize the jewel you received from Duffield.


78  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: December 13, 2020, 04:06:10 PM
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79  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: December 13, 2020, 03:54:21 PM

Choosing a great transacting medium and a great investing medium are not necessarily the same thing - unless they are explicitly made so.





In fact, they are contradictory.

Economic "crises" (necessary collapses of fiat monetary-credit expansion cycles ) corrupt the currency and therefore impoverish savers - conservatives - as well, not just debtors - consumers - .

The ideal is to detach the reserve of value from any monetary link and any monetary payement system of an expressly savings asset. As does the CURRENT  Freegold since 76 (a fact generally ignored, but more important than the closing of the Nixon'71 Gold window - The mainstream stupidly believes that the disunity of the Gold monetary system is a symptom of weakness ... that is why it is not explained that central banks have Reserves in a floating asset that has been x60 since its supposed marginalization ... and that, however, Basilea III already openly considers Tier1-).
...Anyway...those two monetary properties can only be optimized by separating them.

That is why BTC denies being a means of payment ... it is not just a technological issue. Those two monetary qualities (rigor vs. flexibility) counteract each other. And BTC chose a very good shortcut to monopolize the crypto standard. In this ASSUMED process of consolidation as a store of value standard - conceptually and commercially, "Digital Gold" - the cheap DASH gurus have been stupidly selling us that DASH is better than BTC because it is faster and closer to the approaches of Satoshi and blablabla... when its strategic move was absolutely obvious. The speech changed during the alleged threat to BTC of spring 2017. Although everyone associated it with "technological conservatism" it was a full-fledged declaration of principles and in the most maximalist discourse it was perfectly appreciated.

And for that reason, a means of payment like DASH must base its quality as a store of value on assets other than its main currency  and not to create "cheap" money (a fear of yours, as I have ever read you ...and i´m totally agree) .

The official DASH twist that could be seen perfectly in messages from the corrupt intoxicant Valenzuela will do about a year and a half - writing to dictation, of course ... that ignorant does not know where his ass is and where his mouth is - going from "HODL!" libertarian with raised demagogic fist graphics... to "DASH is TO SPEND ... if not, it's worth nothing." And that is a big mistake - because it devalues ​​the main asset on which the savings are executed and, indeed, can only create satisfactory returns with totally unbalanced incentives that keep a precarious structure in place, more unbalanced the more competitive the payement currency is -.

I think I know where they will lead that imbalance in the future, it is quite logical. But that is another question. By now, I suppose they've been loading BTC like crazy for YEARS and distracting naive Mnodes who think they are too smart ... and actually, they don't know how to protect their patrimony.

And it is that really what DASH holders should do, the more tokens they have, all the more reason ... is to consolidate DASH as a store of value. Which is exactly what they will NOT do with the antics proposed by Ryan Taylor (I highly doubt that with good intention - and, of course and of this without any doubt , not with the intention that he declares publicly -)
80  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: December 13, 2020, 02:24:50 PM

The preservation of wealth is not inherent to mining

Come back and assert that when you've managed to generate a bitcoin on your home PC.



That is as easy as directly backing a token that IS generated with a PC  with Bitcoins Reserves ... I explained it to you dozens of posts ago. Afbitcoins explained it to you yesterday with the Gold of the Central Banks and you don't seem to know either. The Reserves transcend saving: They are a standard foreign to the main financial system and that is precisely its qualitative advantage , let's see if you find out the fucking time. ( By the way ... if it hasn't been done in DASH for years, it's possibly because you don't want to beat and win BTC. There is no other explanation with people "supposedly formed" on Wall Street in the front line of an economic project... as I have no other explanation about the Tokenomics or whatever the shit that RTaylor released a year ago is called is just smoke and distraction).

Change the "altruistic" chip of your "essential mining as store of value", that argument is a thousand times proven invalid - and it was already very clear why you needed it or stimulated that line of opinion - ... and if it is your intention, contribute to improve DASH. I post to optimize DASH, not for personal arrogance or trolling. I don't give up my fucking time for that.

You're smart. You choose. Do you help DASH ... or do you prefer this corrupt shit?
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