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601  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: We already passed the tipping point of BTC on: August 01, 2014, 03:05:59 PM
Whenever I mention Bitcoin to friends or strangers in real life they have absolutely no fucking idea of what im talking about. Tipping point = seeing a change on this. I think ebay is key.
602  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin on Jeoprody! on: August 01, 2014, 03:04:16 PM
From all the images i've seen in the internet over the curse of 10 years, im tempted to claim this is somewhat shopped.
603  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What bitcoin myth you want to see us bust next? on: August 01, 2014, 03:02:49 PM
I want to see Bitcoin in ebay so the myth of "Bitcoin will never kick off into mainstream adoption" gets busted.
604  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Youtube is CENSORING Bitcoin educational video for no obvious reason! [SCAM?] on: August 01, 2014, 03:01:49 PM
I know Google Adsense likes to delete things easy as fuck for no apparent reason, maybe they did something wrong in the video? Usually no apparent reasons is just a really anal decision, they censure everything these days.
605  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin blockchain data torrent on: August 01, 2014, 02:58:40 PM
How safe is to download the blockchain from a source that isn't directly Bitcoin QT? Im too paranoid in regards to this so I always end up downloading it directly from the software. Could Bitcoin.com have an at least weekly updated torrent?
606  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin vs. War: Can Bitcoin Reduce Wars? on: August 01, 2014, 02:57:26 PM
Not when we have a lot of people at the top owning tons of BTC while 99% of people don't even own 1 BTC. The struggle will go on for what seems forever.
607  Other / Archival / Re: remove on: August 01, 2014, 01:00:49 PM
I randomly chose giveBTCpls as my winner from page 2: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=699803.msg8016519#msg8016519

giveBTCpls, apparently you don't live in the US but I'm still willing to send you a cap if the cost of shipping isn't too high. PM me so we can work something out.

I havent been around for days so I forgot about this. I don't really understand, whats the price? I accept BTC  Cool
608  Economy / Speculation / Re: So Who's Selling? on: July 29, 2014, 12:56:30 PM
There's a lot of lucky NEETs that mined BTC in the early days and are still holding and devating to dump or not. The price stability could make these people nervous as hell.
609  Economy / Economics / Re: Is 1 bitcoin a decent and good investment? on: July 29, 2014, 12:55:15 PM
There are only 21 million Bitcoins to be ever created, there are 5,727,771,964 people living right now in first world countries. So say Bitcoin gets accepted in ebay. Now practically all of these 5,727,771,964 people are aware that Bitcoin exists because everyone and their mother uses ebay or has used it at least once, and they will see the "pay with Bitcoin" button, then go learn what is that. Satistically, a big part of these people will start using it. Having just 1 BTC puts you in the 1% of BTC holders. I think in the future BTC will be the equivalent of talking in terms of a million in current purchasing power of fiat currencies, everyone will talk in terms of mbits or satoshi.
If this happens tho, I hope we aren't old as fuck to enjoy our new found wealth.
610  Economy / Economics / Re: Fiat banking in Portugal worsens on: July 29, 2014, 12:50:43 PM
They can come at me anytime, they will not find much, most of my poverty money is going to be put into BTC anyway.
611  Economy / Economics / Re: A Resource Based Economy on: July 29, 2014, 12:47:31 PM
This is, objectively speaking, the only way for future societies to function. Fiat, Bitcoin, and so on, it all will be irrelevant. We are headed towards this, the question is how long will transition be? thousands of years? Maybe, and Bitcoin may serve as one of the first steps into that transition.
We already can make houses pressing a button, tons a day:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYqBxEAtXZA

All of this is going to destroy any attempt at keeping a monetary system of any kind alive. Basic fact of life.
612  Economy / Economics / Re: Is there room for a State Run Cryptocurrency? on: July 29, 2014, 12:45:06 PM
IMO cash is still safer than Bitcoin, cash cannot be traced by any means, Bitcoin could be traced with the correct knowledge. Probably a coin like Monero over i2p or so will be used as the next digital cash by the bad boys. Is this good or bad? I don't fucking know? as im a good guy.
613  Economy / Economics / Re: Solution to poverty - Socialism or Capitalism? on: July 29, 2014, 12:43:38 PM
Solution to poverty  Huh
If you mean end poverty, that's impossible

even today with great technology, poverty is still everywhere

The great solution to end poverty (for me) is everyone collaborate together

The technology and resources are there, objectively speaking, to end poverty. The problem is private property and people hoarding shit tons for their personal enjoyment. Why aren't we seeing non-polluting cars of higher efficiency? because the oil cartel is not interested in pushing the new technologies into the mainstream, and so on and so on.
614  Economy / Economics / Re: Solution to poverty - Socialism or Capitalism? on: July 29, 2014, 12:41:08 PM
Capitalism is our only hope. The Freedom to struggle, fail, succeed, and prosper is what give people hope and the desire to struggle to succeed. Succeed for themselves and their families. In a planned society, their is no light at the end of the tunnel to struggle to get to. Look at Cuba, Russia, North Korea. They are all failed Government run societies.  If the government is going to punish people who want to build and struggle to succeed, people will stop trying.

Even China is slowly changing and allowing it's people to fight to grow and succeed.

China is now growing and will keep growing.

It is the Governments version of Capitalism, but Freedom is blooming in China, and I hope it will Bloom everywhere else.

The flowers in spring, are so beautiful.

Freedom doesn't exist, we live in a deterministic reality so free market, freedom... all these terms are laughable. What we need is a Resource Based Economy where everyone has basic needs meet since day 1, to avoid robbery, depravation, and other bad behaviours triggered by bad enviornment which at the same time are triggered in bigger or small degree via genetics. Capitalism and communism are old as fuck and do not meet the realities of life. Struggling and failing and winning is just a chain of physical events given your genetics and your enviorment, no one has control of themselves at any degree. Because of this, it's the objectively correct thing to do that assumes this cold hard fact of life is to provide all human beings with their needs meet (see Maslow's pyramid). Other than that will lead us to chaos.

PD: Lol at freedom in China.
615  Economy / Economics / Re: Dollar is truly bottoming on: July 29, 2014, 12:37:40 PM
I don't really believe in a dollar collapse scenareo. I think the best scenareo is for fiat to take 50% of a persons saving and Bitcoin or "gold 2.0" take 50% of the rest of the wealth. Duality is everything. There will always be a government in power pushing FIAT into people.
616  Economy / Services / Re: [PrimeDice] [Highest Paid Signature] Earn Bitcoins Simply By Posting on: July 29, 2014, 12:35:26 PM
I hope Stunna keeps the rates similar to now, it's the only way to make BTC beyond peanuts. It obviously pays off for him since he can afford it. Being the highest paid is within itself a position of privilege and status that Primedice has and he must be getting shit tons of traffic to be able to pay us decent BTC for this. Stunna is keep doing God's work.
617  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Is Dying, And why it is different this time. on: July 29, 2014, 12:30:25 PM
We need Bitcoin in Ebay to keep it alive and reach jupiter. I see it clear now, Bitcoin in ebay is the only way Bitcoin can be consolidated and not slowly forgotten.
618  Economy / Speculation / Re: rpietila Wall Observer - the Quality TA Thread ;) on: July 29, 2014, 12:27:34 PM
I try to have long term goals but it's very discouraging when you can't have any savings since it goes to pay basic needs, so you cannot start any sort of meaningful life proyect. I've already given up on owning my own place and bringing girls there and generally living like a normal healthy human being. Im stuck in my parents house for life until I inherit it or some shit.

When I was 12 I realized I need to get to Helsinki or I would be stuck in a village where the distance to the nearest elementary school is 25 km and employment was about 30%. (My brother currently runs the farm and both parents are working outside in addition, to make the ends meet.) So I needed to undergo the following, among others:

- Working on farms (several employers), potatoes, picking strawberries, manufacturing & selling products, general farmwork, to raise money
- Buying and playing every title of the Sid Meier's Civilization series to enhance strategic thinking
- Saving money whenever possible, especially never buying a drink (even at my own sophomore party), always drinking from the toilet tap, going a whole day without drinking if tap water wasn't available, walking up to 8 km habitually just to save money, never buying clothes or food until 18
- Investing in stocks in the age of 16, in Russian market when 18, it went down 75% in 2 weeks since I bought
- Biking 22 km/day instead of taking a subsidized bus, to save money; hopping off bus 1 km early because the fare was cheaper
- Delivering spam to ppl's mailbox, twice per week, up to 830 mailboxes at a time, while trying to study
- Scavenging the trashbins for food, living up to 6 weeks without even once buying groceries, during uni
- Falling victim to multiple scams and money-making schemes
- First company went bankrupt and due to good luck, I did not end up losing all
- Second company was still making loss after 5 years, so essentially I subsidized it with my time and lived off wife's salary
- An arm of the government of Finland confiscated all my assets once for 7 months, no charges, no compensation
- Only occasionally had a car or two (or up to 8 when we had a car rental agency)
- Never owned real estate before buying the castle
...
- Making my first million at the age of 29, a mere 17 years after making the commitment to do so.

=> Make a target and stick to it. The unalterable laws of statistics favor the determined, if you just roll the ball enough many times Smiley

17 years sounds like much, but really if you are now 23, you'll then be 40. Not everyone who is 40 has a million euros! Also you are older in the beginning, so it's possible you can do it ~4 years sooner just for that reason. Then the general speed of things has increased a lot, shave off an additional 2 years. So at 34, you'll be a millionaire!

Thats a great read!

I am in a similar situation, working my ass off in 2 jobs while giving tutorials in university and trying to finish my studies. And investing/saving every penny i can into Bitcoins.

I am not doing it as extreme as you did, but i only need 250€ per month - i think thats a good number. Every € above that number goes into Bitcoins.

GiveBTCpls, i have a lot friends like you. Blaming everyone else or the universe for their situation, but in reality its always their own fault.

For example, they re paying 40€/month for their smartphone contracts, and then they are surprised, that they have no money.

If you are paying more than 10€ per month for your phone, well then you are one of them.

I have a shitty blackberry and I never make calls, I only use Whatsapp so I pay about 6€ monthly for my contract. I don't smoke, drink or go out partying. I barely go out because I can't pay for the train to begin with.

So like I said, my only scape that I see right now, realistically, is if Bitcoin goes much higher in the next 10 years. So unless this was it and the big gains already happened, im pretty much fucked, unless totally out of my control lucky events unfold.
619  Economy / Speculation / Re: rpietila Wall Observer - the Quality TA Thread ;) on: July 29, 2014, 12:25:27 PM
I try to have long term goals but it's very discouraging when you can't have any savings since it goes to pay basic needs, so you cannot start any sort of meaningful life proyect. I've already given up on owning my own place and bringing girls there and generally living like a normal healthy human being. Im stuck in my parents house for life until I inherit it or some shit.

When I was 12 I realized I need to get to Helsinki or I would be stuck in a village where the distance to the nearest elementary school is 25 km and employment was about 30%. (My brother currently runs the farm and both parents are working outside in addition, to make the ends meet.) So I needed to undergo the following, among others:

- Working on farms (several employers), potatoes, picking strawberries, manufacturing & selling products, general farmwork, to raise money
- Buying and playing every title of the Sid Meier's Civilization series to enhance strategic thinking
- Saving money whenever possible, especially never buying a drink (even at my own sophomore party), always drinking from the toilet tap, going a whole day without drinking if tap water wasn't available, walking up to 8 km habitually just to save money, never buying clothes or food until 18
- Investing in stocks in the age of 16, in Russian market when 18, it went down 75% in 2 weeks since I bought
- Biking 22 km/day instead of taking a subsidized bus, to save money; hopping off bus 1 km early because the fare was cheaper
- Delivering spam to ppl's mailbox, twice per week, up to 830 mailboxes at a time, while trying to study
- Scavenging the trashbins for food, living up to 6 weeks without even once buying groceries, during uni
- Falling victim to multiple scams and money-making schemes
- First company went bankrupt and due to good luck, I did not end up losing all
- Second company was still making loss after 5 years, so essentially I subsidized it with my time and lived off wife's salary
- An arm of the government of Finland confiscated all my assets once for 7 months, no charges, no compensation
- Only occasionally had a car or two (or up to 8 when we had a car rental agency)
- Never owned real estate before buying the castle
...
- Making my first million at the age of 29, a mere 17 years after making the commitment to do so.

=> Make a target and stick to it. The unalterable laws of statistics favor the determined, if you just roll the ball enough many times Smiley

17 years sounds like much, but really if you are now 23, you'll then be 40. Not everyone who is 40 has a million euros! Also you are older in the beginning, so it's possible you can do it ~4 years sooner just for that reason. Then the general speed of things has increased a lot, shave off an additional 2 years. So at 34, you'll be a millionaire!

Interesting unfolding of your life, the part I don't get is, how did you from there to making 1 million exactly? And how im going to be a millonaire at 34 specifically? Also im 25 soon. Im also an autist, I need specific step by step instructions to function. I didn't chose to be born like this, is just the way I percieve the world. Ironically, im really bad at programing, which should be a benefit of being autist. Not even that, lol.
The only way I see being a millonaire at 34 is if BTC goes to like 50K per coin, otherwise unless something else lucky happens, it's not gonna happen, realistically speaking and given the current situation.
620  Economy / Speculation / Re: rpietila Wall Observer - the Quality TA Thread ;) on: July 29, 2014, 12:04:35 PM
So rpietila is starting a Bitcoin illuminati Rothchild Bildercoin group from hell. Meanwhile im unemployed and still don't have an entire BTC.  Financial freedoom Roll Eyes

What's your age range and your skills?  Rpietilla is in his late 30s I think (even though some of his pictures look older.. he he he), so he has had some opportunities (and most likely should admit luck) to have achieved a form of financial freedom - nonetheless, NO one's financial freedom is completely ensured unless they are sure that their assets are sufficiently diversified and hedged.  Also, the person must be able to live within the means of the passive income from the assets.  Accordingly, there may be a need to continuously monitor the status of such "financial freedom" - unless the wealth buffer remains sufficiently great in order to make any threat to "FF" a non-issue.

Im in my mid 20's and my skills aren't anything that can be moniterised, or that can give you more than peanuts, I like music and as you can see I can type in english but I cant teach it because my acccent is shit as I dont have any english friends. My country has the most unemployment in europe. Even if I had skills I would be fucked anyway. Bitcoin doesnt solve this.

Bitcoin isn't a cure-all. It can solve some issues regarding economy and politics, but it won't solve unemployment. You can however use trading to make money - even if you start small. And I do live in Greece btw where unemployment is like 30% / young unemployment is over 60%.

The primary problem is not Bitcoin, the socioeconomic environment etc etc. These are excuses. 99% of the people don't have a vision of what they want to achieve. They live life as life comes to them instead of planning it. Once you have a proper vision, and reinforce it through your subconscious (subconscious programming, visualization etc), stuff will start falling into place. With no vision/purpose, you can't do much. Your body and mind are like a car that goes circles - with no destination.

Trading is too risky and not worth if you are playing with peanuts, whenever i've tried trading I fuck half it up of the times. Whatever happens happen, im not responsible for it and no one is. In a way we are just discovering our lifes which are already determined, this is a hard thing to grasp. This is also why objectively no one deserves to be poor or rich, or be be punished because they killed someone or what not. I mean of course we need to lock "the bad guys" for our own safety, but it's not their fault. Like a I said, it's a hard thing to grasp.



If you are interested in digital currency why not enrol in the MOOC Digital Currency course through Uni of Nicosia? The 3 month introduction is free and the rest of the Masters course is expensive but they are handing out grants to the underprivileged.

Otherwise, try experimenting with your attitude. A determined, positive outlook surely beats hopelessness, give it a try.

So what do you study here exactly and how would that help me getting a job anyway? Is it too technical? Im not a technical person, im not cut for that.
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