So crypto idea is to favore shady people? If I have nothing to hide why should i use it? Darksend is made for people who has somethink to hide? All says goverment still money and now u say rich and powerfull will be happy? So u are happy they will be happy?  You like the privacy of your home, yet you are not hiding to do something illegal. Here you go. |
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Can someone please rebut this, or at least parts of it? It keeps getting mentioned in IRC and trollboxes, apparently smart people are believing it and I can't find any counterproof to point to. https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Altcoin#Application_Built_on_top_Of_CryptocurrencyBitcoin is a lot like HTTP. It is an application layer protocol and tools can be built on it (like websites can be built on HTTP). There is a class of cryptocurrencies that promise features like casino websites and exchanges and anonymity protocols to be built on top of them.
When creating a new website, one doesn't make a new protocol unless it is necessary. For example, HTTPS is an encrypted version of HTTP, therefore it is useful and necessary. When creating an app such as "DarkSend", one doesn't need to make a new protocol such as "Darkcoin". This is synonymous to making an HTTPS alternative (eg. HTTPSX) for your new website for encrypted chat and not adding any new security or functionality to HTTPSX.
Because Darkcoin is by far the most popular cryptocurrency of this class, the Darkcoin example will be covered in this section.
The Darkcoin devs created a tool called DarkSend. DarkSend is an implementation of coinjoin (an anonymity feature originally implemented in Bitcoin[4]) which utilizes the Darkcoin network to organize the coinjoins. If DarkSend becomes open source and is useful, it will be ported to Bitcoin with a few small modifications. Currently DarkSend masternodes are paid 10% of the block reward after they hold 1000DRK in order to become a masternode.[5] This is flawed because while purchasing 1000DRK is trustlessly verifiable, a user running a DarkSend masternode isn't trustlessly verifiable. It is also costs bandwidth to run a masternode, therefore there is an incentive to buy 1000DRK and get a chance at the 10% block reward masternodes are being paid, but not actually act as a masternode. For this reason, DarkSend would work better if the masternodes were paid by those they were helping coinjoin, or if there wasn't a masternode at all and everyone collaborated in a decentralized fashion. The better implementation not vulnerable to the attack described is compatible with Bitcoin, therefore, the Darksend protocol serves no purpose.
This is flawed because while purchasing 1000DRK is trustlessly verifiable, a user running a DarkSend masternode isn't trustlessly verifiable. For this reason, DarkSend would work better [...] if there wasn't a masternode at all and everyone collaborated in a decentralized fashion. If a user running a masternode isn't trustlessly verifiable, I don't see how involving all the network is better. In the contrary it's easier and cheaper to setup a lot of nodes to trace the transactions. |
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Oh, in that case, maybe a few dozen pages back(if you look), youll see a list of posts someone acquired from evan and internetape's post history of them, selling their darkcoins, and buying darkcoins because they sold theirs.
Any chance you could link the post? Or do you happen to remember who it was made by so I can find it a little easier? It would be great if everyone could just link to it in the case of future trolling on this topic. That and the FAQ. Thanks. e.g. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg4863385#msg4863385 |
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Kai
Long timer here. I have put you on ignore. Any other long timers please let me know when he has stopped arguing with trolls and I take the Ignore out. I am going to miss his good posts.
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Do as you please, but I'm not the problem here. I can't let them spread their FUD without answering, especially when they are paid to do so. |
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Did you also receive money to troll ? |
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Yep , and made a good bribes money from same shitclone coins that everybody here knows . Many users here have been ofered some coin to troll. I'm just the first to say it out loud .
That's a whole other level. |
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Is darksend working or not ? We must wait and wait months for what ?
I don't know what you're waiting for, it's already working. |
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When are masternods going to payout? From then value of DRK will fall.
What is the reasoning behind your statement? FUD as he perfectly knows when it will be. When the ship goes down, you better be ready. And its going down, are you ready? *sing* And here you confess. What are you still doing here aside disparaging the coin ? Recommend others to leave. Hold your BTC and wait till next hype coin arrives. So you're only a good samaritan without agenda, you just want to help others. That sounds legit. |
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When are masternods going to payout? From then value of DRK will fall.
What is the reasoning behind your statement? FUD as he perfectly knows when it will be. When the ship goes down, you better be ready. And its going down, are you ready? *sing* And here you confess. What are you still doing here aside disparaging the coin ? |
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When are masternods going to payout? From then value of DRK will fall.
What is the reasoning behind your statement? FUD as he perfectly knows when it will be. |
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Yeah ok keep deleting my posts and do nothing about techsolution, that's fair.
why do u involve me in ur problems? Is it hard to switch from one account to another ?  |
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Yeah ok keep deleting my posts and do nothing about techsolution, that's fair.
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You know that you can edit out the link right ? |
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I suggest that the Darkcoin community begin to take the moral high ground. I've noticed people in this thread talking shit about other coins. All that does is create blowback. I really can't blame people from other coins talking shit about DRK if we're talking shit about other coins.
I suggest that you do not argue with trolls. Feel free to post links to and quote our ever-improving FAQ, but do NOT stoop to their level. "Kill them with kindness".
"I understand you're not interested in DRK, but here are the facts [link]. I wish you luck with your coin."
If they continue, simply put them on ignore.
Stop engaging in negative activity. Stop talking shit about other coins. Let's turn positive. Let's connect to the emotional maturity that is within all of us for the greater good of Darkcoin.
+1, some people "troll" just for the sake of it, or they're angry, just leave those trolls alone. I'm done engaging them in conversation You both are right but sometimes silence can imply consent. We know but people coming from the first time here don't. |
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That's your contribution to Litecoin, spreading FUD ? That's right it's easier than innovation. i have no litecoin, i have qrk and btq I believe you if you say so. </sarcasm> |
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That's your contribution to Litecoin, spreading FUD ? That's right it's easier than innovation. |
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i have 141 drk bought in under $1 think i will hodl
Holding is wise, and I really wish I *never* sold any earlier ( thanks for all the bad advice everyone in crypto-land) [...] Free advice are never free. |
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They repeat the FUD about Darkcoin like a mantra, trying to comfort themselves, that's sad. |
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