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601  Economy / Economics / Re: The world's logic favours income makers, not the savers on: January 21, 2024, 12:47:59 AM
the only way to end this is for them to realize it and slowly change it but you know, not everyone wants to do that.
For example, if someone gets a salary, they think more about spending it on themselves now, and don't think about the future.
so I think some people already know it but they don't want to change it to suit their lifestyle.
some people don't have the luxury to save money after getting some salary since they need to fill basic need, also have you heard of sandwich generation they are definitely the one that get burdened the most these days, meanwhile other people might alos not have some financial education therefore just spending it thinking that we only live once and then try to spend on some luxury thing that make them happy enough although temporarily.
even the after math of the industrial age also increase consumptivity by presenting so much stuff that we don't really need but we need to buy anyway just for the sake of getting valued high by people, since everyone just judge us from their first glance anyway, what we are wearing and so on.

but overall its difficult situation if im being honest, and I do agree that keeping money in bank for a month will just letting it get eaten by the inflation.

if we can, we should do some aggressive-active investment by moving around our money where APY is high otherwise we won't even surpass the inflation.
602  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: January 20, 2024, 05:20:47 PM
We have every reason to be skeptical about Juventus' performance this season, as it has taken an extended period for the Old Lady to step up their game and become a formidable competitor to Inter Milan for the scudetto. I've always supported Juventus since the start of the 2023/2024 Seria A season because it's been a long time since they won the scudetto and the club ended up in wreckage when they broke an important rule in the system led them to face ban from participating in elite competitions. We can only be proud of football when our favorite team maintains a winning streak in the system.
Juventus was not performing so badly last season but the sanction was just making it looked like a bad result. In fact, juventus could still play at UCL this season if there would be no sanction came to the club but this is the problem faced by old lady last season.
I never feel skeptical about the old lady. I remember when many people were urging club to sack allegri, but they did it right to still trust him in the club. Vlavhovic was almost being exchanged to the lukaku and he is showing better improvement on his performance.

Well done for juventus caused by the club was making it right.
603  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: January 20, 2024, 04:49:01 PM
Only a miracle or a few bad choices can make another champion of this CHampiosn LEague asides of Manchester city or Real Madrid, i really dont see any other team in good form to be a contender this year, maybe and only because they are good in head to head Atletico Madrid, but we already know they are not so solid this year.
So, you forget about intermilan reached final last season. Is not intermilan deserving to be a part of the strongest contenders to win the UCL this season? it's leading serie a and intermilan is also having perfect defense and attack. I think that might be a part of teams who have biggest chance to win the UCL this season. It was even stronger compared to the bayern munich and im not doubting it. It's quite strange to see that how people forgot if there was intermilan who is always climbing up right now.

It likes all of concentrations were focusing on to the manchester city and real madrid. That is why people were always calling up real madrid and city to win UCL this season. Listen to me if intermilan is still comparable to the madrid and city at this time.
It was also having on fire striker who is also top scorer this season and he is lautaro martinez. It is really strange to see that if you were not the only one but so numerous members here were forgetting intermilan.

Intermilan deserved to be treated like city and madrid coz it's one of strongest team last season. Simeone is just crazily improving the club to be even better by replacing some defenders and goal keeper + add more strikers in.
604  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: January 20, 2024, 04:22:37 PM
Yes. This is a match that Real Madrid and Almeria fans have been waiting for because the two teams will meet again to compete next Sunday and this is the 21st match in La Liga. We already know that in the first match of the season, Reak Madrid won with a score of 2-1 over Almeria and perhaps this was a way to avenge the previous defeat experienced by the Almeria Team or even later the result would be a draw. Yes, let's just wait for the final result of tomorrow's match.😁

If Almeria managed to get a draw or even win against Madrid, it would truly be a miracle that no one would have predicted. In the previous match, Almeria drew against Girona, who are currently at the top of the standings. and facing second place in the standings if Almeria manages to hold Madrid to a draw, of course, that is an extraordinary achievement. considering Almeria's position which is currently at the bottom of the standings without any winning points. Not only Girona, Betis also got a draw against Almeria. but I hope Madrid doesn't get the same result.

It may still possible but i don't think it will be happening for almeria. Real madrid was just losing against atletico madrid in copa del rey. Almeria will be going to be a club to put all of emotions after real madrid was losing the second match against atletico madrid. Im thinking about if almeria may be conceded a lot of goals soon. Real madrid will be performing with all of its best players. Real madrid will be on the full preparation to make sure it will not miss points against the worst club in the la liga.

It will be ashame for real madrid to miss three points against a mediocre club like almeria. It needs a miracle to get draw against madrid. Im so skeptical if almeria will get draw against madrid.
You know how bad the performances of almeria in the previous games. So, it becomes my reliable source to say that almeria will not draw.

Real madrid was too strong to lose against almeria.
605  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: January 20, 2024, 03:19:40 PM
Crystal Palace has lost already, with the looks of things and Arsenal is in more control of the pace and possession. I like the fact Trossad could score to seal the win, although with few minutes to go, I doubt Crystal palace could do much.
If they have more chances to add up to the goal margin, they should because they need more goal difference to finish strong incase there is tie in point.
Injury time, and it's 3-0, Crystal Palace has failed to capitalize on their goal scoring opportunities, allowing the hosts to weaken them with a superb performance; of course, this is the type of match that Arsenal cannot afford to lose because they as well are hoping to enter the race. Crystal Palace lost and failed to score a goal for creating the game GG. They allowed Arsenal to take advantage of them without completely utilizing their power. Arsenal won while also dominating the pitch. This is a straightforward victory for Arsenal at Emirates Stadium.

Finally Arsenal can win again after 3 previous matches they could not win. A landslide score of 5-0 could not be avoided by Crystal Palace. Arsenal can create a quick goal before the time has not entered the first 15 minutes. In the 37th minute they can double the position through an own goal created by the opposing player.
In the second half they were more comfortable and managed to create another goal in the 59th minute. I thought the score would not change because entering added time the score was still the same. But Martinelli didn't want to miss out on scoring, and interestingly he scored 2 goals in just 2 minutes.
They should have played like this, because I haven't seen Arsenal like this before. If they can maintain their performance it is not impossible that they will be able to become champions, although it will be difficult to do.
This victory they increased their points collection to 43 points, the same points as Manchester City, but Manchester City still has one match yet to be played.

It was facing palace, and this result is still a common thing. It does not mean arsenal has been fully recovering from the bad performance. There will be another difficult game to come soon. EZ win for bettors of arsenal.
Arsenal was performing so damn well in this match and it was making the situation even conditional for all the players in the game. Crystal palace has been making so many mistakes against arsenal and it was costing the club to be conceded a lot of goals and lost three points. They were playing like this caused by it was only facing palace and can you expect arsenal to play like this when it was facing city or liverpool with their full team?

That is why arsenal needs more matches to prove it has been coming back again to the right track. Manchester city will win the upcoming game and im not doubting it. De bruyne will be playing and city will be getting another three points.
The competitions for the title race becomes even stricter, the only bad news if liverpool will be missing soon. All the goals were coming from players with gabriel on their names.
It was a bad day for palace caused by the club must be losing three points along with conceded many goals against arsenal. This is not a good day for hodgson.
606  Economy / Economics / Re: Demand and supply directly and indirectly related. on: January 19, 2024, 02:10:52 PM
i will be honest that these kind of thing, saying that demand and supply have direct and indirect relation is just confusing for most of people, i think we should just go with the usually law of supply and demand where if the demand is high and the supply is low then the price would increae, same thing with the opposite, but here's the thing, how to figure out if the demand is high? i mean we can know roughly from the buy order but with thing like stock and crypto, buy order change dynamically, sometime the buy order could be low but the price still climbing up anyway.
everything is so abstract and hard to understand with trading and investing in form of stock and crypto.
thats why many people fail to figure out the key of trading and investing, because everything is so abstract and dynamic.

while all these economic law that exist does indeed help to understand roughly about the current circumstance of the market, doesn't mean they are that useful.
607  Economy / Economics / Re: Logic of life on: January 19, 2024, 01:53:53 PM
its such abstract concept to be honest and kinda difficult to understand if you really think about it i mean we might deserve more income if we have more knowledge or in other word skill, such as being an expert in certain field but there are something called luck and entrepreneurship where we could possibly just outsource some task to some people that are already expert in that field so we can succeed without even knowing how to do something.
having more knowledge definitely doesn't guarantee that we gonna be rich in any way. i've seen many that are former executives in some company went into poverty, surely they have more knowledge and experience that are more than some ordinary people but anyway they are trapped in debt and won't become rich anytime soon.
earning money is in my formula defined with combination of luck, skills, knowledge, and opportunity, without these, earning more money that equates to success would be significantly harder.
also even with those doesn't guarantee that we will become rich anyway.
608  Economy / Economics / Re: Will they ever be able to afford a house? on: January 19, 2024, 01:07:37 PM
Those pricey footwear seem fantastic, but do they provide shelter? Nope! Short-term desires override long-term needs. Don't even mention brand addiction. Nike and Adidas are great names, yet they're only shoes. A house, though, is an investment

iPhone 11 vs. iPhone 15; They both talk, text, and shoot pictures. Why is the current model so important? Same story - sacrificing financial ambitions for temporary pleasures. We need to think smarter about our future, not just our wallets. A wise guy observed, "It's not about how much you earn, but how much you keep." Don't overlook financial stability in the quest to buy the latest and greatest
these are definitely the thing that might cause some of the newer generation to be entangled in some debt with this unhealthy lifestyle of being overly consumptive will definitely hurt in the long run if not in the short term, I mean some people might consider these as "investment" for the sake of improving quality of life just because they wear some big brand they would have some position in the society, but then again thing like these come with costs and yes like as you said, these things are definitely
not gonna help in fulfilling our basic needs, we can be owning a thousand of these shoes and we still can be lacking in the basic need if we don't properly manage the money that we earned.
functional over aesthethic in my opinion is important in this regard to there's nothing wrong to be aesthethic as long as it doesn't drain our wallet of money because after all with these big brand, they could be selling some random thing and it will be overpriced so definitely don't get too attached with these big brand if we want to establish our economy for the better.
609  Economy / Economics / Re: The world's logic favours income makers, not the savers on: January 18, 2024, 04:22:25 PM
just make 30% of your saving each year from every investment there is then you are fine other wise the money will just becoming lesser and lesser as the time goes because all the thing you mentioned is definitely valid concern at this point so many people not even realizing that such thing definitely exists, saving in fiat just seem like easily causes us to waste much more time than it need to be for us to achieve our target, investment is definitely the only way to speed up us achieving our target despite the fact that it might also carries risk to some extent because lets be honest here making money always carries risk same with investment our investment could literally vanish if we take misstep in investing into some random shit project.

but whats better than investing is that if you can increase your income through having some business or something like that even side hustle as long as it contribute toward your financial condition its definitely something worth doing.
the key is to make more money here so that we can still be at ease with our financial condition in the future even if we are paying taxes.
after all those that just stuck with their current income, considering the trend that the salary increase is not that significant anymore, will lose their purchasing power and when this purchasing power goes as low as it can that means poverty.
610  Economy / Economics / Re: Crypto investment vs real estate investment : Which one more dependable? on: January 18, 2024, 03:57:09 PM
Know that real estate investment requires a huge amount of capital, so starting with that little amount might not be a wise move. But if you are trying to acquire just a small property, then that’s fine enough. Anyway, its value will also appreciate in time so you’ll definitely reap a decent gain.

However, same thing with bitcoin, its value never settle with a low price but it always ends up an expensive amount, the only difference is that you can acquire bitcoin even with a very small amount and just grow your investment through applying DCA. If you do that consistently, you will have a huge sum of bitcoin that is equivalent to a very large property.

You don’t have to chose actually but investing in both will create a great advantage in the future. Just do it gradually, one step at a time and you will end up having a vast investment in time.
definitely could do both investment but then again the question arise, would it be profitable enough to do both or just simply go with one of the investment, that will be such a question for many people with bitcoin it increase so massively overtime as long as we buy at bearish and sell at bullish meanwhile property, well, if someone wanna rent then its fine, you will get consistent passive income. but you will also be burdened to rennovate the building and many more, basically the passive income that you are supposed to earn aren't really pure profit but still gross, after all there are many thing still needed to be taken into account meanwhile with bitcoin if it increase in price its definitely some real pure profit right here.
but then again it depends on our risk appetite whether we could still be sane fighting against our urge to cut lose when something goes wrong or to take profit almost immediately whenever there are some increase in the price of bitcoin.

It depends on what kind of person you are.

Bitcoin is mainly rely on skills, like you have to understand how it works and how the market works in order to take opportunities to buy whenever it is a good chance to buy. Profit is good as long as you don't do panic selling and do it for long term instead.

While Real estate depends on how strategic you are in order to have plenty of clients to rent your properties. It's much physically and mentally draining for me since you have to compete with other real estate agents in order to make profits as much as possible.
agreed, real estate is more of the conventional and traditional form of investment it can be convenient because it is low risk but sometime it requires additional effort.
even more so for us that truly seek people to rent the property for the sake of paying off mortgages.
611  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Investing altcoins now or during halving? on: January 18, 2024, 03:28:44 PM
if you are so sure that when we are nearing halving the altcoin season hasn't arrived then go ahead wait for the halving to arrive first before making some investment but there's some indication that we are about to take off on the next bullish cycle in which we gonna have some massive bullrun and many alts are definitely gonna be getting that massive increase in the near future but its still speculation at the end of the day.
I think thats the thing with keep delaying our investment we definitely gonna have big chance of missing the opportunity to invest instead since we are too hesitant to make the investment.
i personally would start investing from now just in case since we don't really know when altcoin season gonna be coming anyway.
im just super concerned that i might miss the opportunity of getting that massive profit like before,after all i know full well that the crypto market is always growing year by year, definitely cant miss such life changing opportunity.
612  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: January 18, 2024, 02:36:00 PM
Xavi is said to have threatened his players with leaving Barcelona if they didn't believe in him anymore. I'm not surprised with hearing such news honestly because Barcelona are really poorly performing these days. They have conceded so many goals so far unlike the previous season. It isn't good at all to see them in this situation in the middle of the season already.  Sad
Just let him to leave from the club. There are so many great coaches available to be recruited by barcelona. Xavi acts like he was not responsible with the bad result acquired by barcelona.
If he was really saying like that and i would call him as a childish coach. People aware if head coach was fully responsible with the result achieved by the club. I don't like him caused by he was not even willing to learn from the new era.

Xavi is still using the old philosophy owned by barcelona to coaching the current club. This is main reason barcelona is performing so badly caused by xavi is really harsh as a coach. He was not able making barcelona play better after he had been spent a lot of money.
Laporta is not feeling happy with it. Barcelona is always getting problem related to the financial probelm by the club. This is so crazy to see that how there were barcelona fans who believe the club will get la liga this season.


They aren't bad at scoring goals at least in general. However they really need to work on strengthening their defense. They don't have a bad defense line actually but the players just don't perform like themselves this season. Xavi will need to make them believe in themselves somehow.
Barcelona has been facing setback in scoring goals. The club can only score few when it was facing a weak club and nothing to be expected from this club. I remind you that barcelona has a very poor defensive as well.
So, what's to expect from this team? i expect nothing from barcelona. The club keeps playing so badly. This is the main problem faced by barcelona caused by it was always bottling any matches.
613  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: January 18, 2024, 02:21:43 PM
I just see Arsenal repeating same thing they did in the premier league last season, just take a look at how Arsenal started very well this season just to reach this stage and starts losing points.

Arsenal were actually better last season than they are this season. They lost so much form this season and I believe it's due to fatigue. A top club needs squad depth to remain at the top and a very good rotation. Last season, Arsenal were still in form at this point of the season. They got bad after a couple of injuries and fatigue.
So, did you mean arsenal was the only club who was getting fatigue? Did you think other club was not getting the same thing like arsenal as well? this is so strange to see that you said like that caused by all of teams were working so hard to win any competitions.
It sounds non sense to use fatigue as an excuse to justify the lost streak faced by arsenal. Just make it clear if arsenal was playing so badly due to the its horrific performance. It will be far easy to explain what is happening with arsenal.

Fatigue is a very big problem that prevents high-flying teams. This usually affects teams that press very much in matches. It affected Liverpool too after they won the EPL.
Arsenal will make the top 4 but they won't be among title contenders.
So, what about the club like manchester city and liverpool? Are you joking with your statement? all of top teams have busy schedules and using fatigue as an excuse is a non sense thing.
614  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: January 18, 2024, 12:19:06 PM
Yes Mourinho will be a good coach for Newcastle. Mourinho has vast experience in European football and he also understands the English premier league very well having worked with Chelsea and Manchester United. I won't be surprise if Newcastle go for him. He can bring more stability in Newcastle pattern of play and deliver more than Eddie Howe.
Not every coach have the efficiency to manage elite team but José Mourinho fits in all categories. José Mourinho is currently without a coach and there's solid evidence of the coach, he proven to be useful and have handed major trophies for elite clubs. There's no way Newcastle United will relieved Eddie Howe from his duties and settle for José Mourinho because Eddie have worked so hard for the club and have deliver them in crucial moments, giving them strong stands and also showing evidence that he's competent enough.

True, but he had been sacked by roma. There will be no choice other than recruit the new coach, but the name that has been recruited by roma makes me feel so bad with it. It's caused by im seeing roma is just degrading the team by recruiting the garbage coach like de rossi.
There have been many members have been discussing regarding his achievement as a coach. He was never coaching the big club and this is a very big gamble for roma. Even some people compared him to the xabi alonso which is far away.

Xavi had so many experiences to play under various coach while de rossi is not having good experience as a football player. He was roma's legend but is the word of legend enough to push the performance from the club to be even better?
There are many people disappointed the result of this recruitment. It seems roma was panicky recruiting de rossi. The quality of Roma's scouting and management is incredibly poor, negatively impacting the team.

It was very bad to see that rossi becomes a new coach for roma. Im sure roma will lose its consistency caused by the club takes time to learn into the new scheme that may be used by the new coach. This is a setback for roma. Roma will be losing in europa league as well as serie a.
This team has no future.

615  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Do not use more than 2x leverage on: January 18, 2024, 01:28:09 AM
Totally agreed .Its very risky for any traders to over leverage when opening positions will be much better to accumulate small profits than go for a huge one and get liquidated easily ,I have lost so much over-leveraging during my days as a new trader  with time i have since learnt my lessons and refrain from such bad trading habits.
When one trades with high leverage the chances of liquidation are high because when you go to trade with a $100 budget and use 10x leverage it will trade an amount equal to $1000 and if the price of your chosen coin is up 10% or  Down and if it is against your entry you will lose your $100 and the trade will be cancelled.  There if you take 2x leverage then the price of that coin has to change by 50% for you to liquidate.  High leverage means more profit and more loss.  So it is better to use less leverage to be less risk
high leverage exist for people that don't have high capital but want to get big profit, the risk involved is i think understandable, after all when we can get the opportunity to profit as if we are investing 10x of our capital thats definitely not happening without future trading, but then again as you said it will definitely have a risk, even more so with those people that i've seen frequently using 25x leverage is if it was nothing the slightest flash dump could definitely liquidate their money it just nuts.

but overall its a fair game if you know how to take advantage of it properly the thing with most of people is that they don't even have idea about the coin they are investing but still go with high leverage just in case they are proffiting big from it not knowing that the opposite scenario could definitely something thats gonna happen instead.
616  Economy / Economics / Re: In times of Crisis and uncertanities toilet paper can be new currency on: January 18, 2024, 01:04:14 AM
well without toiler paper you can just wipe your butt with literal paper, i don't think toilet paper can be the new currency despite the fact that in previous pandemic crisis there are so many people hoarding toilet paper but lets be honest here, people are hoarding this because its the cheapest basic thing that every people need so people hoarding it to feel relieved while they are absolutely doing nothing here, at time of crisis, you can just survive like you're supposed to survive in the wild, just use whatever means to keep your self clean and thats it, not to mention that toilet paper getting produced everyday by large quantity.
literally if there's woods then there's toiler paper you just need to wait for some factory to manufacture it and then the toilet paper crisis solved because people that hoard aren't gonna use that many toiler paper at once.
they hoarding it for long term and the production of this thing is easy.
617  Economy / Economics / Re: Will they ever be able to afford a house? on: January 18, 2024, 12:20:24 AM
Great table and comparison but Gen X and Gen Z have different opportunities, duties during same age. Whole life is different, much complicated. We have so many thing we want right now, that they distract greatly from buying that house. For example if we give up on latest mobile phone, TV, smart watch, tablet, notebook, car (at least first payment), all those unnecessary expenses (like daily coffee at Starbucks. Seriously, why pay $10 for a coffee, when it cost $1 to make same at home), we would save on first house payment easily. Instead, economy produce more and more (because there is a demand), people buy more and more, postponing major life purchase till end of the life.
this one is a concern but we should all know that if we truly want something like house we would refrain from wasting money. the thing is that some of the new generation these days can't just hold on buying some fancy thing, talking frankly quite literally every youngsters these days buys nike jordan or something thats just expensive don't know whether its worth it or not if compared with cheaper option out there.
i've personally got some friend that still live in rent but hoard those sneakers and own about 20 of them and they are all big brand like nike adidas and so on with really high price tag.
make me wonder whether some people are just not cut it to buy house these days.
even though its true that we got much more distraction these days due to so many thing like latest flagship phone and so on, but i think we also should realize that its just some optional thing, to be fair, old phone are still functional as new these days, like old iphone 11 if compared with newest iphone 15 its just as functional, maybe some small gap in performance but the price is already half if not a third of what the newest phone costs.
618  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: January 17, 2024, 05:16:17 PM
Breaking News!

Jordan Henderson has officially parted ways with Al-Ettifaq and this is the first top European player to leave the Saudi league. Previously, we certainly knew that several Saudi league teams had made huge investments to strengthen their squads and introduce their league to people throughout the world. Unfortunately, one of the European players and former Liverpool captain did not feel at home after half a season with Al-Ettifaq and finally with Al-Ettifaq he agreed to terminate his contract.

Now it is reported that Jordan Henderson will join Ajax and he will soon undergo a medical test as a new Ajax player. I think his quality is still enough to play in Europe and maybe this is what he wants because not all European players feel happy playing in the Saudi league even though they can make a lot of money.


As stated by ajax yesterday if the club was almost complete the deal with jordan henderson. One european player is now going back to the european competition which is not good for SPL. This is also giving impact to the reputation of SPL.
It seems like that SPL needs to work even harder to get european player to play there. It's caused by the left of henderson from ettifaq can also be used as a testimony for other players to avoid SPL. I don't even like this.
Henderson knows so well how good or bad the competition in the SPL. His movement to the ajax will be used by haters of SPL to blame it.

This is bad news for SPL caused by it must be losing one of good player that has come from liverpool. Im not feeling so good with this news. I was sure if hendo would be joining in the ajax but i didn't also see the effort from ettifaq to prevent him to leave from there.
Hendo is finally back to the european competition again. He will be feeling quite better to perform there rather than stay even longer in the SPL.

We are still waiting for the further development from firmino and benzema. Hendo's case is clear after an announcement about his transfer.
619  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season on: January 17, 2024, 03:43:14 PM
This Roma still dont have the solid eprformance you need to win something, you can look yesterday they lsoe against Lazio the derby for the Copa Italia, and they dont have a good match, also in Serie A theya re not doing so good, and they have a much more reinforce team than in previous seasons.

Roma was consistently losing the game and roma fans were aware of this. This is also the main reason the management was sacking him out from club. I have no faith in roma anymore. I would remove this club as my favorite club to win europa league this season.
I never heard the history of de rossi in the football. He was a new coach in the professional football and it will be a very dumb decision to sack mourinho.

Liverpool and leverkusen are still remaint he strongest club to win the title this season. Liverpool and leverkusen are the strongest among all the clubs participated in the europa league. Roma was also on my favorite caused by it was going to the final last season.
My hope has gone after mourinho sacked by roma. It's a very hars reality for him caused by mourinho has been helping roma a lot since he was coming to the club.

I can't deny mourinho was also being linked with so many problems, but yeah, it was his unique characteristic. Roma is just losing a good coach who has been forced to manage the club without even get good amounts of money.
620  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: January 17, 2024, 03:25:20 AM
I think one of the three teams you've mentioned above (City, Real Madrid and Bayern Munich) will be champions, of course City are the defending champions (having won the CL for the first time last season), and they'll want to defend their title. The thing i love most about City is their lack of complacency, they always want success every season, notwithstanding whatsoever they achieved the previous season.

City beat Bayern (in the QF) and Real Madrid (in the SF) on their way to the trophy last season, and if they meet either team in this knockout stage, it would be pretty tough and there would be a sense of revenge. It would be interesting to see how things pan out.

Doesn't this apply to Real Madrid or Bayern? Bayern wins the Bundesliga every year and for them this is a routine/norm that they cannot fall below and every year they want to win the Champions League. Real won the Champions League three times in a row and 4 times in 5 years. It is difficult to imagine that at some point they will say “perhaps we have enough.” Each top team strives to win all tournaments in which it participates. As for personal meetings between them, I hope that City will be knocked out earlier and there simply won’t be any  Grin
I think City should go further because in football every team has a year when they dominate. If Manchester City wins again this year, it will force the UCL and these other teams to be better. Thus, we will see a tighter competition next year. I think Real Madrid or City are the favorites this year.

To be honest, I don't want to see Manchester City win this Chmpanios league anymore because they shouldn't win the tournament. Manchester City is very much dependent on some layer and if they lose these players they won't work as the team we know anymore that's why I think they should win the title this time and another team like Real Madrid got more chances than Manchester City.


I find it amusing, what could possibly be wrong with it? It is fair to say that any team, regardless of their previous record, has the potential to come out victorious and claim any trophy. As long as manchester city has the ability to get another UCL trophy again and why not? real madrid has got it three times in a row in the last decade. There's nothing wrong with all of them.
They are putting all of their efforts to help the club in winning UCL this season and it will happen and nothing wrong with it. I think that any clubs are trying to use everything they have to win UCL and tere's no need to feel worry about that.

If there was a club who totally depends on some players and what's wrong with it. They were winning caused by their players and this is the fact. Manchester city was just as good as real madrid at this moment.
Manchester city deserves a chance to win like real madrid as well. Did you think that real madrid was not relying upon its players too? To be honest, your statement was very weird.

I know that some people might not like that to see manchester city to win the game but if they have power to make it happen and there's nothing wrong with it.
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