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601  Economy / Gambling / Re: Rollbit.com | Crypto's Most Rewarding Casino 👑 on: May 19, 2024, 03:30:55 PM
Football is a game of strategy. Luck is just a small thing.
I disagree partially. Skills do help to a great extent in any sport related betting(Not just football), but luck matters a lot too which is why it definitely is not a small thing as you mentioned.

H2H stats are just one parameter among many, many parameters along with the luck factor when betting on various sports.
Good skill on sports can win most of the times in sportsbet but here also luck cannot be neglected. Because sometimes incredible results are seen in football and cricket games.  Even a weak team sometimes wins a match by playing against a strong team. And then many lost their sure bets.  So at that time it can not be called bad luck? In all sectors of gambling one has to believe in luck because without good luck no one can do well in gambling.  Skill cannot give anyone 100% satisfaction in gambling.
Sorry but I have to say that you are all wrong, define skill and you will understand that skill has nothing to do with sports betting, or sports betting has nothing to do with skill rather.

Think about this, the players who are playing the physical match are the ones who need to be highly skillful to win their games, not without luck on their side though.
For gambler who participate in sports betting, it's knowledge that they need, sports betting is a knowledge based game, as well as luck based as well.

So, let me say that we have three categories or type of gambling games, and those are...
1. Pure luck based - casino and slot games
2. Knowledge and luck based - sports betting
3. Skill and luck based - poker, blackjack, and some other card games.

So, your good knowledge of; and in sports, with the help of luck, is what increases ones chances of winning their bets on sports games, not skill.

I think you are very correct on that because knowledge is actually the key and also, very important is luck, this supercede every other thing when it comes to Gambling be it sports betting or regular casino games like poker, roulette and  dice luck is always at the forefront. Okay let's take sport betting for example, one may posses all the knowledge and it would be clear that a superior team is supposed to based on the knowledge you have that the teams is better in their gameplay and everything but sometimes other crazy things can alter the change of the game, things like red card in the match or maybe even an injury to the most important player of that team and it's in all this area that luck in sportsbetting covers.
602  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: May 19, 2024, 03:22:59 PM
In the previous games, the performance of West Ham hasn't been a good one actually, dey got dealt with by Chelsea with a loss of 5-0 it didn't end there. They also conceded 5 goal from Crystal Palace, and to sum it up their form hasn't been in good shape for a while now. Even their last 2 won matches, they were unable to keep clean sheet, which is an evidence that their defence is weak. However I don't think they can stand up to defeat or make a draw with Manchester city. Arsenal can start preparing for next season rather than placing their hope on West Ham. Though this is football and even the impossible can happen  Grin

You are right West Ham United has not been consistent on this season if not they would have actually secure a more better position than there current place on the table, imagine they have been too inconsistent that they could not even win two or three matches from there last seven matches which is a very bad performance and they are even lucky to have won there last match against Luton if not it would have affected them seriously on the league table.

So considering there previous meeting with other smaller clubs on how they were not able to win those teams is it Manchester City they can be able to challenge, so perhaps I agree with  you that Arsenal shouldn't put there hope on West Ham United because is obvious they will go through a lot in the hands of Manchester City because West Ham United doesn't have what it takes to stop the kind of strikers Manchester City have, though like you said anything is possible but in this case is actually almost impossible for West Ham United to hold Manchester City to a draw.

Manchester City have eight straight wins in the EPL with at least a two-goal advantage. City are aiming for another league title and the home stands will help them. West Ham have no tournament motivation, it will be very difficult for the Hammers. So, I expect Manchester City to win. The Citizens will become EPL champions for the 4th time in a row today.

Manchester city are red hot and they definitely mean business as they have already taken the lead and already winning by a goal. The odds of Manchester city drawing this game to week was at the very minimal especially when they know that the fate of their title is at stake. It took just two minutes for them to actually score and take the lead courtesy of foden who has really proven himself to be one of the city crucial and important player through out the season. Well I could say it's still early to start calling city as winners already as their is still alot of time to play in this game but if the game were to actually run down like this then Manchester city would definitely be champions like everyone is expecting.
603  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: May 18, 2024, 08:20:04 PM
Congratulations to Bayern Leverkusen for ending this Bundesliga season unbeaten, and they are the first club in the Bundesliga to even play a whole season without losing any matches to their opponents. Nobody believes that Bayern Leverkusen will lift this season's Bundesliga title; talk more about not losing a match in the Bundesliga. Bayern Leverkusen will now focus on the Europa League finals because they have achieved their unbeaten record in the Bundesliga this season. Bayern Leverkusen is just two wins away from setting another record for not losing any matches in all competitions this season.
Leverkusen closed the 2023-2024 season campaign with a very extraordinary achievement, the Leverkusen versus Augsburg match which ended with a score of 2-1, placing Leverkusen as a team that has never lost in a season. In the history of the Bundesliga, no team has ever done it, thanks to the genius of Xabi Alonso, Leverkusen this season managed to do it. The Bundesliga has now become more competitive, Bayern Munich dominance has collapsed, and now Leverkusen has emerged as the new champion. Xabi Alonso has performed beyond everyone's expectations, which I think the record he has set will be very difficult for any team to equal in the future.

Leverkusen luck will most likely continue in the other two competitions, where I think Xabi Alonso squad has a high chance of adding 2 other trophies, namely the Europa League trophy and the DFB Pokal. Betting on Leverkusen winning seems quite safe, considering their reputation over this season. The Leverkusen versus Atalanta match is quite interesting to wait for, because apart from the championship trophy, Leverkusen will have a lot at stake in this match.
Bayern Leverkusen no doubt have shoke the entire football world, not only the bundesLiga but the whole wide world because from the start no one expected Bayern Leverkusen to even come out on top talkless of being extraordinary with an unbeaten record that even their rivals Bayern Munich can't boast of and Bayern Munich has been the forefront of almost every bundesLiga trophy
604  Local / Nigeria (Naija) / Re: If we had higher magnitude of Crypto adoptors and Literates in our society. on: May 18, 2024, 05:45:04 PM
This has in time made me felt like the governments are benefiting from the illiterate being of the people knowing that they do not know the DOs and the DON'Ts and how they can be audible to be defendant.
Have you ever wondered why educational curricula of schools have not been reviewed to have modern-day relevance? or why there is very poor funding for the educational sector? Why would political leaders rather send their children to schools in other countries than schools in Nigeria? I think it is all an intentional act to make sure that we do not get too educated to begin to challenge them. It is too bad that it did not work, The internet offered a window of opportunity for the youths to learn many things outside of what they have been subjected to learning in school.


Omo that's a really bad idea and way to go about things, I no fit believe am say na this be the actual mentality of the leaders of the country because this kind of thinking na only evil people nai dey get am. But as you talk, na so the matter be sha because some of the stuffs dem dey teach for school na really old and outdated things wey don reach for them to change but yet dem still dey insist on enslaving the people by caging their mentality.
605  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why you should only hold Bitcoin on: May 18, 2024, 02:43:51 PM

You're right there is risk in bitcoin investment but the risk is never to be compared with the risk in other coins, However is obvious that bitcoin is the most reliable and trusted coin when it comes to crypto investment, secondly bitcoin is also trusted in long term holding that is why most investors choose to invest only in bitcoin. Moreover people always talk about altcoins being scam sometimes I don't always blame them for saying that because they have their reasons, but I think most of the altcoins like ethereum and bnb I think they have good potential in the future.

Yes bro, if we talk about risk, everyone has their own risk, but let's see which one has the least risk, like we saw in the BTC coin, why do big investors want to invest in BTC because there it is more confident and safe, even though the risk is there, it is less compared to other coins, and BTC is also long-term, more suitable for those of us who have large capital and want to take the long term, rather than taking the short term, it will result in the risk of a price drop when we buy at a high price, it's better to study it carefully first before drawing conclusions. Don't be rash in drawing conclusions, it will result in high risks.

Bitcoin is certainly a wise choice  every smart investor will choose although like you said the certainty to any cryptocurrency is doubtful untrue but with Bitcoin the limitations and risk involved is way better compared to so many altcoins out there.

I had a friend who actually taught investing and holding Bitcoin is far too stressful and he look for other alternatives and bought Shiba Inu and the reason was he had slow patients when it comes to waiting like he really need the profits overnight but just as the possibility are there that few of these altcoin can give that, but same as their is little chance of Making good funds from altcoin same theory applies in a same way you could lose everything within the twinkle of an  eye.
606  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🏆 AnonBet.net - No-KYC Slots and Sports Betting with Bitcoin [20 FREE SPINS] 🏆 on: May 18, 2024, 02:35:37 PM
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607  Economy / Gambling / Re: I would like to place a $1,000,000 bet on: May 18, 2024, 02:29:47 PM
So since this was obviously fake, what else this guy is saying is? I give you a hint, everything.

Somebody needs attention and recognition from stranger in an anonymous forum, quite sad.
Good catch! It seemed pretty obvious that he created this thread for the sake of attention primarily due to his trust feedback as I mentioned in my previous post. So many people go to crazy lengths for attention.

Also, it's hilarious seeing some posters still provide proper suggestions even after your post. Lazy people!
Well what can we say? Most of us know this fellow is absolutely looking for attention and yes we are blantanly giving it to him and that's because sometimes its kinda fun answering someone stupid questions even if you know the person is just a troll seeking for attention he doesn't merit. What harm can be done anyways? Everyone will just feel justified as to they did answer the fellow rather than snubbing the fellow and besides it's the internet mate, we are all fucking free✌️✌️
608  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season on: May 17, 2024, 09:20:22 PM
Trophies are the ultimate goal of a competition, another record set since the start of the season is just a bonus from his impressive performance. If Leverkusen fails to win the Europa League trophy then their unbeaten record in one season in the Bundesliga will become insipid. Now that Leverkusen is almost at a record that has never been achieved before, they must be able to maintain their performance to win the Europa League Trophy while maintaining their chances of winning the Treble winner. I hope Leverkusen can overcome Atalanta and Real Madrid to win the Champions League to present an exciting match in the European Super Cup.
In my opinion, even though Bayer Leverkusen failed to win the Europa League trophy, Bayer Leverkusen's achievements throughout this season do not feel dull because Bayer Leverkusen have also won the Bundesliga title and this title is also a record for Bayer Leverkusen who have not tasted the Bundesliga title while they have competed there for quite a long time. It's been a long time, but it would be a shame if Bayer Leverkusen failed to win the Europa League title this season even though Bayer has maintained its performance so far and is just a little away from winning the title and hopefully its efforts so far have not been in vain.

Leverkusen not only managed to win the Bundesliga title this season, but they also managed to have an unbeaten record. Amazingly, Leverkusen is likely to win the Europa League title with the same record, as well as the other domestic titles they have.

I don't remember any team ever having the same season as Leverkusen in 3 different competitions, so that's a very prestigious record for them this season in such a competitive competition. Currently Leverkusen only needs to ensure 3 wins in 2 final matches and 1 Bundesliga match, if they are able to do this then Leverkusen's record will be very impressive.
Bayern Leverkusen indeed have done something extraordinary if you ask me because looking at their squad, they are not like the regular big boys team with all the experience and talent but still yet they have managed to find a way to achieve this prestigious honor although they haven't won the trophies yet but it will indeed be a wonderful feat for them if they actually do win it.
609  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambler avoiding friends after a big win. on: May 17, 2024, 09:14:28 PM
~snip~

Big money very often has a negative effect on people. They become arrogant and stop communicating with those who seemed to be friends with them before they had money. In my opinion, this is not surprising.

On the other hand, if the common interests of these people were only in gambling, then this lucky person simply decided to stop communicating in order to leave gambling as a winner and break all ties that can be associated with gambling. It seems to me that this is very likely to be true.
It's easy to say this but I would like to let you know that sometimes such winning of money comes with huge pressures from the peers and friend of that person and if you start with yielding to the request then it becomes a burden that you yourself cant meet up with so the best option is to actually ignore or snub some unnecessary fake friend because they are still going to be the ones laughing at you after everything has been exhausted.
610  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: May 17, 2024, 07:53:13 PM
As great as Girona have been this season, it was incredible. Girona has performed well this season. We didn't expect to see such a good performance from a team like Girona. Girona held the top spot in the points table for a long time. However, Girona has gradually lost points and is now third in the table.

Girona will definitely need to strengthen their squad if they want to perform well next season. If the squad is not strengthened, it will not be possible for Girona to perform so well next season. But Girona is not a very rich club. I doubt Girona management will be able to provide large funds for player purchases.

Girona's success is inseparable from Dovbyk's sharpness this season, he is even the top scorer in La Liga this season, if Girona maintains Dovbyk then in the next season they have the potential to stay in 3rd place, Girona is a truly unpredictable team, in fact there is no who think Girona will go this far in the standings, if their performance does not worsen at the end of the season, then there is a big possibility they will finish in 2nd place.
That possibility is the one that am looking upto because with the way they actually performed this season, they do definitely deserve the 2nd position, although Barcelona are also looking to finish the season strong but if it's left for me then I would definitely make Girona the 2nd place earners and yes next season will be another test of consistency because that's the only thing that will certified their claim of not being a one time wonder team so keeping their man in check will also be a big instrument to achieving their next season goals
611  Local / Nigeria (Naija) / Re: What if the Bitcoin was in note? on: May 17, 2024, 07:45:52 PM
In all countries around the world there currencies are all printed in paper which is called note though there maybe countries who still use coins till now. All around the world money can be misplaced maybe from your pocket, your hand or maybe your wallet may even get lost but still some people don't feel it when their money get lost because it's not that very high in exchange like in Nigeria where we have our highest currency which happens to be 1k and many other currencies like #500, #200, #100 and others most times we misplace this money and others pick it up with joy of having what you didn't work for but in this recent economy everybody has refused to lose money as usual ( laugh ).

What if the Bitcoin was in notes and with the same value as it has now, do you think anyone would misplace it or even walk with it on the street. Eventually you see a Bitcoin note will you return it to the owner. Let's be sincere and also see it as fun.

Digital currency can not be in a note, why Bitcoin is still decentralized is because know one controls anything about it, the inability of the government not to control Bitcoin is because it is not in a note, note currency are only for countries and they are centralized, there was never a plan on ground to make Bitcoin a note, Bitcoin is a p2p digital money system that enables you to send and receive values without control or involvment of anyone apart from the person that you are transacting with, with Bitcoin,you are in charge of your money, the decentralized future of money is in the hands of Bitcoin, so note was never consider during the creation of Bitcoin because note is inflationary, centralize and lacks the potential of acting as a digital money and at the same time store of value, this idea of note should be erased because it not goung to happen.
Well to add to what you just said, Bitcoin is simply the only cryptocurrency that breaks that barrier of personal control and or should I say central control and na this reason na make Bitcoin never actually get something wey dem fit pin am put for him head. Bitcoin no be today something and e don really make the whole world see money and finance transaction on a different level na make dem no go fit turn am to paper and beside who you wan hold make him come do this kind thing, well to answer you " NO BODY" Bitcoin is decentralized.
612  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: May 16, 2024, 09:30:08 PM
-snip-
Your worries have come true, Man United will definitely not qualify for the UCL League. Never mind qualifying for the UCL league, they also didn't qualify for the European league and European conference league. Initially I saw that Manchester United would get better after being coached by Erik ten Hag because last season they actually performed better, but this season Manchester United has slumped again and doesn't even look like a strong team, sometimes they lose against weak teams.

However, Manchester United's downturn this season is not necessarily Erik Ten Hag's fault because many of Manchester United's core players have suffered injuries, in fact player injuries come and go, so it is very natural that Erik Ten Hag has difficulty implementing the strategy he wants. Especially when coaching a team as big as Manchester United there is a lot of pressure. from various circles making it difficult for coaches and players to recover mentally after defeat. Keeping Erik Ten Hag is the best option at the moment and giving Erik Ten Hag time, because changing coaches is also not a good solution.
Erik ten Hag failed to meet the fans' high hopes this season to perform better than last season. Manchester United failed in all competitions including the Champions League, but I would still hope they can win the title in the FA Cup even though they have to face the strongest team in the Premier League, Manchester City.

Winning the FA Cup title would be comforting for all fans, so I hope Ten Hag can make it a reality. I know beating Manchester City when they are in their best form is very difficult, but the atmosphere of the final should be able to provide a lot of motivation for the players to give their best. That's the only title I can still hope for for Manchester United, other than that there is no hope.
For now with the looks of things I would even count the FA CUP as a failed mission because it's definitely going to be the wildest dreams of ten hag to actually think they can overcome Manchester city and manageable squeeze out a win from that game. Well it's football, they could try but I doubt that being possible but since nothing is impossible in football I will still keep that taught on positive. As for tem hang performance with Manchester united, there is nothing I can say about it because the season by far has been one of the most dreadful seasons in the history of Manchester united as a club and I just wonder why that man is still left there as the head coach of that club.
613  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: May 16, 2024, 09:19:20 PM
Right now I'm thinking of placing my bet on Dortmund cause those big odds could end up coming in for me, not like I feel that Dortmund could win either bayern or real Madrid but you know when ever a small team or rather least expected team gets to the final, the fairly tale story would most likely be finished with the taking the lead and winning the Cup, it's not to bad to place a stake in an unexpected event.
That's why it's called gambling in the first place, nothing is certain so don't be surprised if actually Dortmund do the unreasonable and came out on top of Real Madrid come that final day of play, so I would just tell you some advice which is to gamble on the odd with little funds that won't affect you even if Dortmund doesn't win because the whole world of football expect Real Madrid to win even the bookmakers but sometimes things do change so goodluck.
614  Local / Nigeria (Naija) / Re: Make you no leave very small Satoshi, for wallet during bear run. on: May 16, 2024, 09:13:58 PM
but e show me say e get di kind amount of Satoshi, wey you go leave for your wallet, if price continue to dip or for bear run, one day everything go just disappear.

Yes there will be decrease in value but your 100 SATs technically will never disappear from your wallet unless you sell it below the price which you bought it. No matter how dip the market is your 100 SATs will remain 100 SATs. That's how powerful Bitcoin is.

Thanks for your direction, nobody know am finish and we de learn everyday, so we no fit to see 0 sat for wallet? Based on wetin you talk, dat means during price dip, di value of 100 sats fit no worth anything unless price begin to de pump again, e go just de there pending.

Yes ma bro, the figure of Bitcoin no dey change na only the value or should I say the worth in dollar nai dey change so if you get 1bitcoin today when the value na $66k, even if the price market cap reduce to $10k or even $1k that 1bitcoin still remains 1bitcoin just be say the value or worth in dollar go reduce but the figure in Bitcoin is still the same and na the same logic wey also apply to small Satoshi of Bitcoin too.
615  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why sports betting? on: May 16, 2024, 08:57:05 PM
With hundreds or probably thousands of games online, I'd like to ask why would you choose sports betting?

I believe that sports betting has become more popular here in the forum since most gambling sites, our reputable gambling sites are already sports betting on the menu. So, out of curiosity ( don't want to assume), what are the reasons why you fall in love with sports betting?

Moreover, I like to know if you really believe you can win in sports betting in the long run, or you just really think no chance because every game can be win by luck, sports betting is not exemption.
Personally the reason why I even place sport betting ontop most of the casino games is because their is this feeling that's feels as if with sportsbetting you can actually get a chance to predict the outcome by making some research on the particular teams but casino games like dice, roulette, and the rest I just feel luck is everything and you as a gambler is totally hoping on the house to be friendly if not you lose although I know it's actually kinda the same for all but sport betting just makes me feel in charge a little bit.
616  Local / Nigeria (Naija) / Re: Kucoin suspended P2P in Nigeria on: May 15, 2024, 08:48:49 PM
Omo me no go lie oo, I actually taught this whole matter will die off but looking at the way things are going, It seems Nigerian government really wan blame cryptocurrency for the fall of their naira whereas dem know within dem selves say na dem be the whole cause of everything. If dem wan really make the naira strong then make dem first of all ban the use of dollars itself from the country so that even the government officials dem self go get no option but to see the idiotic move they are taking towards making naira strong.
617  Economy / Gambling / Re: What is the Worst online Casino you've played on so far? on: May 15, 2024, 08:29:50 PM
There is what I always measured a casino or bookies based on my personal interest,  luck and desires,  which is my ability to win and withdraw my winnings.

My worst experience was on access bets, its a local casino here in my country and their offers sport bets, when I won about #40,000 and wanted to withdraw I couldn't due to some issues that could have been resolved by support.
I think I can relate to that same experience with accessbet, although I normally don't like trying out new casino that isn't all that looking spicy 🔥 and by that am talking about the outward presentation and accessbet was not looking like what I would like to try out but because of the influence of the famous artist advertising their site, I taught I should give it a go and boy was I disappointed because the delay and even the whole set-up was something I really didn't vibe with.
618  Economy / Gambling / Re: Can i bet 5-10k on a single bet anywhere? on: May 15, 2024, 08:22:35 PM
Have to agree with the others that Stake is the platform that lets you bet crazy money on events.

No, I've never done so myself, I'm not degen enough to waste my money like that Smiley

PS: You're going to have to split that $50 with a lot of other people, as I'm sure the next 100 replies to this thread will all tell you to use Stake as well.

😁😁 I couldn't stop laughing when I saw this reply of yours, I guess that's how crazy things end up with threads that Op ask some questions that requires answers especially when the answer is kinda narrow. Sometimes the replies on some thread is just something else especially when others even see that the answer has already been given others just tend to go on and on like it's one big merry-go-round.
619  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: May 15, 2024, 08:15:55 PM
Chelsea has the opportunity to get a place in the conference league but Chelsea have to wait for Newcastle to lose or draw.
Chelsea have just finish the first half of the match, and they are already winning the match. Chelsea played well in the first half of the match, even though they could only score 1 goal in the first half, and I am still expecting them to score more goals in the second half of the match. Chelsea are already ahead of Newcastle because they are currently losing to Manchester United, so Chelsea has taken over Newcastle's position on the table. If Chelsea can maintain their current goal lead and Manchester United can also beat Newcastle in today’s match, then Chelsea should be qualifying for the conference league.

Palmer continues to be a player that instill chills down the spins of oppositions. His goal wasn't an easy to convert and yet, he was able to guide it off his head and into the far corner of the goalkeepers net. Just something only a player of his quality can give for Chelsea.
I must say the formal Brighton Players have been very instrumental to Chelsea's good performance so far. Despite the boos from opposition fans, they've always pushed forward to stay the game in attack mood as you can find with Cucurella and Caicedo, they've been impressive so far and hope they keep it up till the final whistle.
He has been the heart and power engine to the success of this Chelsea short view of light they are experiencing now because the whole road for this team wasn't an easy one and everything seems to be actually working for them now thanks to palmer and his full contribution and activeness in their gameplay. On a regular past Chelsea playing Brighton, I think the current score would have been something else but now they are the one's leading and even playing good football too.
620  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: May 14, 2024, 09:17:50 PM
Thibaut Courtois; Daniel Carvajal; Nacho Fernández; Éder Militão; Ferland Mendy; Federico Valverde; Eduardo Camavinga; Toni Kroos; Rodrygo; Jude Bellingham; Vinícius Júnior

Courtois came back like a Prodigal son that was given a second chance to demonstrate his new change, he has done a cleansheet on 3 games on his appearances, this is a comfirmation that Lunin will not start on the final match between Dortmund and Real Madrid in the Champions League but it's cool, he is experienced, he is fast and doesn't give chances but I'm sure Lunin will be recognized in the end of the league.

Vinicious might be underrated with low number of goals but I think man deserves a place for the Balon D'or this season and if they win the Champions League, it's another assurance and confirmation for the Ballom D'or, the only close person from another club is Haaland.
This winning mentality that Real Madrid are currently on will definitely boost their moral towards the final especially the aspect of keeping a clean sheet because that will be very vital when they played because I believe its better to not be scored than to scored and also concede alot of goals by your opponent. When it comes to the champions league final and experience, I think courtois is better than lunin so he will definitely be a good start in the game.
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