If 9000 GH/s = 90 TH/s, how does 40,500 GH/s = 40.5 TH/s? I did the same math, removing two 0's.
Your level of stupid never ceases to amaze me. I don't even know how you maintain respiration. It seems your autonomic nervous system would have decided to pack up and head to more lush pastures, like a desert somewhere, so that it can die quietly and finally be free of you. If you paid me a quarter to suck you dick, would you brag about it on the internet? I autonomic nervously await your reply. Now, what about that lawsuit. Is BFL going to sue me or not? We'll just add poor grammar, spelling and homophobia to the list of things that make you a worthless piece of shit and a pathetic human being. Like the list wasn't already long enough. So not only are you a confirmed liar, you're also a homophobe, excellent. You are a real piece of work. Now, why don't you go back to grade school and learn basic math before talking shit on the internet? |
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No, payout lock should not affect it.
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If 9000 GH/s = 90 TH/s, how does 40,500 GH/s = 40.5 TH/s? I did the same math, removing two 0's.
Your level of stupid never ceases to amaze me. I don't even know how you maintain respiration. It seems your autonomic nervous system would have decided to pack up and head to more lush pastures, like a desert somewhere, so that it can die quietly and finally be free of you. |
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Yes, I think the minimum is set to .02 if I recall.
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Yes, we are still doing Dwolla
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Still looking for a kit...
Anyone in Asia/Australia/NZ able to help me out?
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Josh, your logic makes no sense to me. You literally quote facts that disprove your own argument and call it misinformation and lies? Everything I said was accurate, the day you were called out on selling preorders it changed to "order now" on your website. Your company IS NOT shipping units fast enough to catch up on backlogs, which also means you do not have the manpower or production to meet the sales that you have taken from customers. Further, you cannot withold funds from a sale if there is no product to back it up. "All sales are final" does not apply when you do not have the product being prepped for shipping. Guess what, ordering parts doesn't make the product built, packed, or ready to be shipped either. You just can't withhold those funds, end of story.
I believe you when you say my logic escapes you. You are apparently unable to understand simple concepts, even though I've tried to use simple methods to explain them. Something as advanced as logic would be difficult for someone to follow if they can't grasp the language they are trying to use. Here, let me try to be even more direct with you, try to follow along: Butterfly continued to accept preorders when they could not fulfill them or have a reasonable basis for delivery (this violates all FTC regulations) This is false, also known as a lie, since you a) have no way of knowing if we can or can not fulfill preorders. Also a lie since you are unaware of the actual laws surrounding the FTC. However, I will grant you a pass on the "lie" portion of the FTC regulation. Lots of people think they are lawyers on the internet, but have absolutely no idea what they are talking about when it comes to legal matters. This is you. Butterfly is continuing to ship units at whatever rate they can. Realistically, they are barely fulfilling preorders that are up to a year or older Another false statement, also known as a lie. You, again, have no way of knowing whether or not we are barely fulfilling preorders. You know exactly zero information about our orderbook. Butterfly is now refusing refunds. That's right, if you placed an order you cannot get a refund. The reasoning that Butterfly uses is that "all sales are final" and "orders are shipping". Let's get something straight. If an order isn't in your hands or actually in the process of assembly and shipping, the sale is no where near "final" and every customer is entitled to a refund. If you ordered in May, you will not receive your unit until sometime near December. There is no excuse as to why that order can't be refunded, end of story. For all intents and purposes, this is a restatement of your first point. So again, it's either a lie or you are yet another clueless internet lawyer. You may THINK you know what the laws are, but you obviously don't. Go back to my quote, the customer is always first. I am in fact a customer. Why don't you move to the back of the line and find some way to make it right for the rest of us? That's your job. Lets go over this, shall we? Why do you think the customer is always first? Let me guess, you've heard the tired old saw 'the customer is always right!' correct? Guess what? Not true! It's a false business methodology that has been proven to be detrimental to business. It's a hold over from the 70's and 80's that has wrecked many a-business. Here, let me help you out: It's called "fire your customer", there's lots of articles books on it. Read up. Customers who post lies and misinformation for no particular reason other than to troll or prevent others from purchasing (thereby believing they are enhancing their purchase value) are not the kind of customers we want. Again, grow up and accept responsibility for your actions instead of throwing a tantrum on an internet forum and blaming others for your mistakes. |
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That's the hard part about this. You make an investment with a company on good faith that they will deliver a product, and sure enough they fail. Butterfly doesn't even do it gracefully, you come asking questions and they tell you that "you don't understand english" and "go whine somewhere else". Meanwhile, they've taken your money and are now refusing to give it back even when they have no reasonable expectation to ship something to you! What if? As that's never happened, it's are you trying to imply that it is? You didn't "come asking questions" as innocently as you are trying to make it out to be. Here, let me quote you: Look, Butterfly Labs is a scam. There is no other way to put it, unless you were one of the first few who received their orders. Let's be clear on a few points.
- Butterfly continued to accept preorders when they could not fulfill them or have a reasonable basis for delivery (this violates all FTC regulations)
- Butterfly is continuing to ship units at whatever rate they can. Realistically, they are barely fulfilling preorders that are up to a year or older
- Butterfly is now refusing refunds. That's right, if you placed an order you cannot get a refund. The reasoning that Butterfly uses is that "all sales are final" and "orders are shipping". Let's get something straight. If an order isn't in your hands or actually in the process of assembly and shipping, the sale is no where near "final" and every customer is entitled to a refund. If you ordered in May, you will not receive your unit until sometime near December. There is no excuse as to why that order can't be refunded, end of story.
Last but not least, no respectable company, especially one looking to make a name for themselves in a virgin industry, would conduct business like Butterfly. Being represented by folks like Josh is disgraceful, if one of my employees acted in that capacity he would be fired on the spot. The customer is always first. Not a question mark to be had. Just a bunch of misinformation and outright lies. Gosh, I wonder why you got the response you did? Especially after I pointed out your whacky, unrealistic "hindsight investment strategy" you seem so proud of, then where you then proceeded to throw a tantrum because you were unable to understand "all sales are final" which is plastered on nearly every page of your order process. |
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Interesting. Yeah, arguing from a position of facts vs FirstAgents position of anecdotes is not exactly a debate. It makes it kind of pointless.
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The statement was that we did not refund preorders. We did. We are no longer taking pre-orders and we are not refunding orders that are currently in the queue, that's correct.
It was stated multiple times that all sales are final when you ordered. What part of that were you unable to understand? We can't be responsible for your lack of reading comprehension or ability to understand simple English sentences. Sorry for your reading disability, perhaps next time you should get someone to explain what terms and conditions mean to you before placing and order. Now put on your big boy pants and accept responsibility for your actions instead of whining to me why you are unable to function in normal society and you should be a special case.
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Amazing to me that you are even trying to defend your position. What position Inaba? So you think you're company has conducted business in the most ethical and prudent of manners? You took preorders when you knew they could be filled in a timely manner? You refunded preorders when asked? Maintained transparency? Under promised and over delivered? Yes, BFL has conducted business ethically and as prudently as possible. Believe it or not, whiney little babies have no connection to reality aren't the norm in the business world. Go whine to AMD or Intel or another tech company when they are late delivering your product, see how far it gets you. As far as taking preorders when we knew they could be delivered in a timely manner, I assume you meant "knew they couldn't" (if not, please correct me), but we did not know. That is the point. Yes, we refunded preorders when asked, is your implication that we didn't? We are the most transparent ASIC company shipping products. We are also far, far more transparent than pretty much any other tech company out there. Under promised and over delivered? I assume you are implying that we didn't. Guilty as charged and I've already apologized numerous times. You parade about like a child bashing everyone who disagrees with your almighty opinion. Nope, only those that make up falsehoods and outright lies. You are welcome to disagree as long as you stick to the truth. Try it - stick to the truth when disagreeing with me and see if you get bashed. Hasn't happened yet. (You've already failed this round, looks like, see if you can make your next post contain nothing but factual information.) |
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There's never going to be high demand for niche apps. And no, your suggestions don't calculate data for Kessler Omega motor settings. Anyway, your statements about my first hand knowledge about what I'm describing are useless and irrelevant to the discussion. Just because you want it one way doesn't change the reality of an individual's experiences with special niche apps, which often interface with other manufacturer's products. Please take your Android centric motivations to pick arguments and go argue with someone who cares. It's a fact that your arguments don't mean anything to first hand experiences others have had. On the other hand, if you have something useful to say about your own experiences relating to this discussion, rather than your childish desire to be an argumentative fucktwit, by all means, there's no better time to begin than now. And I do mean fucktwit in the most sincere manner, as your avatar picture brings back unpleasant memories of you in the past, when you behaved the same way. Ahh too bad you're unable to hold a reasonable debate without devolving into personal attacks so quickly. I guess the debate is over, sorry about your loss. |
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I'm asking your for specific apps, not general categories. We can argue until the cows come home about general categories. Name an app.
The number of search results on Google is not indicative of the availability of an app on either platform. Heck, if that's the case:
Google:
Android: About 2,830,000,000 results (0.25 seconds)
IOS: About 611,000,000 results (0.27 seconds)
Android wins by a landslide, I guess this debate is over.
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Can you name an app that's useful that doesn't have a counterpart in Android that functions just as well if not better? I'm honestly curious if there is one.. what killer iPhone app exists that doesn't exist in Android?
I can name one in Android... as I said above, it's a keyboard. Simple, obvious, yet Apple doesn't allow it.
Lets not even discuss the disgraceful charging/USB situation on IOS.
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Hey, hindsight is a great way to invest. Since you're so good at hindsight investing BBazaar, can you tell me how many billions of dollars you have made? Oh, what's that? You're just a poor slob without any sort of connection to reality? Sorry... from the way you were talking, it sounded like you had cracked the secret of predicting the market with 100% accuracy.
If you knew the bitcoin price was going to go up last year, why didn't you put hundreds of thousands of dollars into bitcoin at that time? That's right, because you didn't know... no one *knew*. So unless you've perfected time travel, you should probably move along.
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IOS is the Fisher Price OS for the "My First Smartphone" crowd. It's great for your mom or dad or grandparents and excellent for kids. Android is for people who want to use their phone as more than a toy.
That said, the camera on the iPhone is superior by leaps and bounds to any Android phone, so if pictures with your phone are important to you, go with the iPhone.
There's lot of differences between Android phones, though... One phone is not like another and some suck really bad and others are full of awesome, so you have to be careful which you chose.
Nexus 4 for a techy wired brain or a Samsung Galaxy S4 for a non-techy "I kinda want an iPhone but don't want the full Fisher Price experience" wired brain.
Once again I disagree. a Jailbroken iPhone can be as versatile as any Android. That being said, we are talking about a Phone!!! What can you do with Android that you can't do with iOS and we are talking productivity wise. I want to make phone calls, I want to check email, I want to share my mobile data plan with other devices...etc. The biggest advantage iOS has over Android is the ecosystem. First of all, Android does not have a decent Laptop (ChromeOS is a joke and that's it), with iOS you have full integration with OSX so you have a great ecosystem (MacBook, iMac, iPad, iPhone) and they all share great features together, like iCloud, PhotoStream, iTunes. Backing up an iPhone and restoring all the contacts/Photos/calendars/setting is a breeze on the iPhone. Can you say the same thing about Android? doubtful. Taking a picture on the iPhone automatically uploads it on photostream to all your iOS/OSX devices. Can you do that with Android NATIVELY? NO! As a mobile OS, iOS is leap years more advanced and productivity wise what you do with iOS would take three times more to do with Android. Even Windows is creating a better ecosystem with Windows 8(.1) and the tablets/phones available for it. I dont need a phone that I can do my programming on it, that's what laptops/pc are for. I need a phone that is FAST, allows me to do the basics such as email/photos/tethering and maybe a few other basic things. Yes, every now and then I can RDP to a windows client or ssh to a linux/unix from my phone, is that convenient? sure, in an emergency, but I have to be crazy to do it on a daily basis. I don't even want to get into the business model from one vs the other because Android clearly loses that battle also. Google play is shit compared to iTunes/App Store. Want to talk fragmentation? check the versions of Android out there compared to iOS... it's a developer's nightmare for android. Sure, this argument reminds me of Linux vs Windows back in the early 90's with the difference that Windows has always had an overwhelming advantage in market share over Linux and in Android vs iOS this isn't the case. BTW Inaba, I'm an IT Professional and I work for a Fortune 50 company, not a bunch of borderline scammers with bad project management skills and even worst PR skills. Maybe the use of android is making you less productive? Get an iPhone, you might be able to work more efficiently. Many customers would appreciate it! Your entire argument is invalided with one simple argument: You can't change the keyboard on IOS and the Apple stock keyboard is the biggest piece of shit ever. You can't be productive with that piece of shit getting in your way constantly. BTW - don't hold up iTunes as some advantage of the Apple ecosystem. It's one of it's biggest downfalls. iTunes is a steaming pile of junk on Windows (you know, 90% of the market?) and wrecks everything it touches. I've never met a single person that likes iTunes on the Windows platform and everyone complains about it. The fact that you're forced to use iTunes to manage your IOS device is a negative, not a positive. On top of that, the Google ecosystem is far, far more robust and interconnected than the Apple walled garden. How's that viewing and downloading of PDFs working out for you in mail? heh. Also, how's the association of various file types with certain apps working out? Oh, it's not? Sorry to hear that, I guess you're stuck with the junk Apple forces you to use, instead of using an app that actually works for the content you want to work with. Enjoy your home screen with it's shaky, jittery little ugly icons. Too bad you can't customize it and you're forced to have a grid of crappy looking icons as opposed to useful widgets. |
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IOS is the Fisher Price OS for the "My First Smartphone" crowd. It's great for your mom or dad or grandparents and excellent for kids. Android is for people who want to use their phone as more than a toy.
That said, the camera on the iPhone is superior by leaps and bounds to any Android phone, so if pictures with your phone are important to you, go with the iPhone.
There's lot of differences between Android phones, though... One phone is not like another and some suck really bad and others are full of awesome, so you have to be careful which you chose.
Nexus 4 for a techy wired brain or a Samsung Galaxy S4 for a non-techy "I kinda want an iPhone but don't want the full Fisher Price experience" wired brain.
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