BTW, Any peeps who cry out "don't quote the trolls" this is simple debate, if you find it offensive, just go ahead and ignore me too.
Calling "troll" is one of the ways the early birds here deflect any sort of criticism.
Point taken.
I will refrain from using that term in the future.
Surely most people can tell the difference between honest discussion, including criticism, and obvious trolling such as spamming the same FUD repeatedly with an obvious intent to be annoying or insulting, or starting numerous negative threads with the same content, especially with several obvious sock-puppet accounts.
Even trolls are capable of occasional honest discussion. I don't think anyone minds worthwhile comments being quoted even when they come from well-established trolls.
Perhaps it's better to say "don't quote the trolling". Hate the sin, not the sinner.
As for "early birds" versus "noobs", perhaps it should be recognized that those with considerably more experience will have a different viewpoint from those who are relatively new to Bitcoin who form opinions based on limited experience or try to apply experience in other fields inappropriately to Bitcoin.
Of course more experienced posters must remain open to change and not allow themselves to develop a stubborn orthodoxy and reject new ideas.
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In my observation, posters fall into three groups.
The "early birds" are those who were into Bitcoin before 2011, and saw the price go from less than a cent to over a dollar, bubble to over $30, crash to $2 and then bubble and crash twice more.
A second group are those who came on board in late 2011, 2012 and very early 2013 and witnessed (and participated in) the last 2 major bubbles.
The "noobs" are those who didn't really get into Bitcoin until later in 2013 after the last bubble to the ATH had already started.
Obviously those who've seen the price go from a penny to over $300 will have a different perspective from those who have seen it go from $1000 to less than $400 in barely a year.
Those in the middle group, including myself, will have a viewpoint somewhere in between those of the other groups..