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6001  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What stuff you buy when you win gambling? on: August 01, 2016, 06:56:38 AM
I am not an hard core gambler. I only play some times mostly I play gambling online to get some information about the site, I want to know if it is legit or not. paying or scam.
but whenever I win gambling I donate all my gambling money. because these are the money which I didn't earned for my work and get for free so I think we should help others from our free money.

Thats a good deed there pal. Others wont mind  to donate into others if they  won on gambling  they would rather buy their own wants, its sad but its the reality.  Only few people are like you who  have a heart of helping others   especially on  winning on gamble thinking that this money   is not earned  on your hardwork.
6002  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: August 01, 2016, 06:49:37 AM
Because everyone wants easy money stuffs like you can earn a lot of money just by simple stuffs. Being overtaken by greed is a prettt bad thing that you should quit gambling. Better safe than sorry

but gambling won't make anyone easy money. if someone think that he can make easy money for gambling then he's absolutely wrong.
gambling is just looks like easy money. but when you get enter into it and play some time. you'll realize that it is not a way to make easy money. even it make you loose and loose all your money and nothing will left for you.


Although some lucky people do win big money with gambling it happens so rare that you can say it never happens at all. One should take a look at statistics and not at separate cases which don't reflect the whole picture. So I agree wuth you, gambling is a one way track to losing.
I just wish I belong to some people, actually I also win sometimes but it is not the win that I have been longing as I want to win consistently in gambling but to no avail I failed most of the time. I know my chances so maybe I should depend on my luck then to win, but it will not last for long that is why I am going to play it for fun only.

Having a long Winning streaks doesnt exist on gambling, you might win at first but  in the end youll lose everything. Gambling really  depends how much luck do you have. Some  play gambling for entertainment and some for money but  majority are aiming  for profits but   things doesnt goes as  you planned.
6003  Economy / Speculation / Re: If bitcoin rose to $1M, what you do? on: August 01, 2016, 06:25:21 AM
Of course we never will see that price in our lives, because the multiple factors required to achieve that level are almost impossible to gather. I have read that the highest price that bitcoin could achieve given the better conditions should be not beyond $1300, and I personally think it is a very optimistic idea.
i totally agree about it hard to rose to $1M
it could be $1300 and more if governments accepted them as legal currency
I think it is not only difficult but impossible to happen. 1 BTC worth $ 1m? lol it is impossible if it happens? what will happen to the dollar
if it happens right, imagine it? there must be a frightening thing in the world that dollar has a value as low




Its really impossible to happen , if that would happen many factors would be changed  especially the world wide economic state especially to dollar currency. Many  bitcoin holders would be millionaire even they are just holding 1btc, transaction fee would be so big  on transferring bitcoin to another wallet.
6004  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How to earn bitcoin by sig campaign? on: August 01, 2016, 06:12:53 AM
That is the reason why yobit has restricted their participations just to member accounts because they know that if a user stays in the forum until he reaches member rank he would surely know something after that and then he wont be able to do enough spam as he could as a newbie.

Yes because most newbies who join directly to yobit before they just keep spamming just to get the post quota they didn't even read. The sig campaign rules I guess before they join. Newbies don't have much knowledge about some things that's why they make things rush up.

Yeah but it also affected the newbie that is orderly, read and obey the rules. Because in my opinion are not necessarily all newbie have bad behavior and some of them certainly have enough knowledge. But they were outnumbered by the amount of people who do spam. thank you

Not all newbies are just spamming but some of them really does. Thats why people  treating newbies as spammers because  of the things that most  of the newbies doings which is really not good to those good newbies out there who were knowledgeable enough and can understand the rules and regulations.  No matter  they are affected  they would easily ranked up since they understood the things  in here already.
6005  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to Turn Gambling into a Profitable Activity on: August 01, 2016, 05:57:35 AM
I dont see anything  ways to make  gambling  turning it into a profitable activity because gambling does  depend on how  much luck do you have everyday  and every time. Theres no strategies or  ways  to prevent those losing streaks maybe you would  be profitable sometimes if your lucky on that day and you stop. Comparing  the winners and lossers on gambling i think lossers are many than winners.
6006  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling should be considered as a Sickness!! on: August 01, 2016, 05:41:53 AM
Gambling is risky game of money from which most people lose and just a few wins. Gambling too is addictive and fun especially when you're winning and that's why most people can't get away from gambling once they get in it.
In gambling you only win from the start then you lose whenever you win a certain amount.

Gambling can't e considered as a sickness as it is a type of entertainment,

Addiction to it can be considered,
But only if that addiction do cause a lot of negative effects on the life of the gamblers,

Addiction in gambling are not that severe in comparison to other addiction, so For me, I don't consider it a sickness as long as it does not have any negative effects in your life.

Not severe? lol. Gambling addiction would  give you a miserable  life  when the time comes  that you dont have a single penny to spent. You even  sold your house to someone  just  to have money to play as  also others said that it might   be a cause  that your family would leave you. That thing  is not severe to you? Why you are comparing to other addictions? Put in mind that  everything is abused might lead to things that  you wouldnt expect to happen.
6007  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: is gambling fix your life? or wreck your life? on: August 01, 2016, 05:32:46 AM
Gambling is wreck my life so bad. The last time i gamble is i go all in and i lose it all, it's make my life become bad, i can't sleep well, want to cry everyday and my body like no energy everyday.
Greediness is the main reason why some gamblers loss. They want to get back thier btc in an instant and they bet higher and the result ,they end up loss big amount.

Yeah, greed is always the enemy of a gambler. It can lead you to a wrecked life if you gamble and follow your greed. Sometimes, you are already winning and you can stop gambling already. But greed will tempt you and you will gamble more until you lose everything. So, if you want to be a successful gambler, avoid greed at all times. Learn to control it, not greed control you.
but i think greed is something from inner and cannot be so easily control, i think it is a psychological problem that men always want to reach to extreme position in both good and bad sides, if a  person is winning bits in gambling he is trying his best to win more and more unless he lost all the money back that he won in previous bits, but if a person is loosing money he also biting again and again just in struggle to recover the lost but instead to recover his lost but he continue loosing tell the end.

I agree that greed is somethin from inner self but i disagree that it cannot be so easily control.  I have no problem controling my greed,  Maybe because it is how we were raised.  So controling greed depends on the people and depends on how they are raised by their parents. Value and attitude is affected by family.  Anyway gambling neither fix nor wreck my liife.  It don't have an effect on me since i never gamble with all I have and it is always controlled.


We are all born different and unique each one of us. Some people can control things  some  are not. Greed is an inner emotion that  usually comes out if you   experiencing desire to win more or experiencing  lose streaks  and  the feeling to proceed  hoping for  recovery of lose funds which usually wreck someones life.
6008  Economy / Economics / Re: How can you earn 5% interest daily on your bitcoins? on: August 01, 2016, 05:22:39 AM
5% daily is tough, but 1% daily is not a bad idea. You can win that by gambling or investing in trades. That too, involves risks of it's own.
I think if you grow bitcoin by relying on your own business and do not make an investment to a third party, you might benefit more than 5%
or below it. I think the profits will not be able to always stay if you bebrbisnis or self-employed. at least that you avoid the defeat

Yes, making 5% profit daily is not easy and relying on PONZI is the worst thing to make an income.
The best way to make profit is find a nice place where you can lend others and make profit, but if you don't want to do that maybe trade with bitcoins price changes could be better beneficial.
thats true, only ponzies can allow you to make such a big interest but it is really risky and you will most probably lose your bitcoins so i dont recommend doing that
Ponzis offer that rate and it is so great to see 5% interest per day which to be honest I was victimized of this system, I earn my first week but the remaining weeks was a disaster for me, I have 5 ponzis that time as I believe spreading my investment will minimize the risk but I was wrong because the act of entering into ponzi alone is a high risk as majority of them are scams.

5% per day is too good to be true return of your investment in daily basis. No site could sustain  for long time since they would get bankrupt if they did so. Put it to your mind that ponzi sites  and hyip sites are all the same they wouldnt last for  a week and even 3 days. For now i would stay away from those sites.
6009  Economy / Economics / Re: If you were in desperate need for money.... on: August 01, 2016, 05:11:07 AM
Borrow it form family, friends or from the company in which you are working for. Else use credit card and then pay some higher interest . Do some part time job for few months so that you can have extra money and pay it.
We should start borrowing from family members or friends so we cannot bear the interest of the amount borrowed, banks of lending company should just be our last option if we cannot seek help within the group of our family and friends.

First we borrow to our friends or family members to evade those interest as  other says the same. Bank and lending firms would be the last resort if  the first  option  didnt work.
There are really times  that  we are in need  in money especially on emergencies and  not expected thing that happen that need a financial support.
6010  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Give me advice pls! (Online shop) on: August 01, 2016, 04:12:43 AM
Hi there,

I want to launch my own online shop which will accept bitcoin as payment but I can't decide what to sell   Smiley

Please post here what would you buy for bitcoins? Watches, video games, food ?

Thanks!



I would buy steam games, steam wallet or game online items with bitcoin. I think you can thing about it, i'm sure you will have many costumers with it.

We have the same things on mind i would probably purchase steam wallet codes, and other stuffs  related to steam it would be sure to have a customers since there are 10 Million steam users worldwide. Just be sure to sell lower than  steams price since steam is already   accepting bitcoin as a payment to their products. Just sayin
6011  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Betting on sport = gambling? on: August 01, 2016, 03:59:05 AM
The word betting is the same as gambling since  you are  risking your money to a certain thing.  Sport betting is also considered also as gambling since you dont know what would be the result its still has 50/50 chance on winning and lossing. ITs just commonsense to answer this question.  Grin
6012  Other / Off-topic / Re: Will you accept bitcoin as your salary? on: August 01, 2016, 03:52:26 AM
Not only you save your time, you also save from fees on every conversion you have to make. Plus sometimes on exchange, the price is of bitcoin is higher than it really is. So, you can add that to your savings. Directly receiving bitcoin as salary has advantages especially if you are spending bitcoins directly.

Maybe for some people who live in developed countries that already have a physical store that accepts bitcoin can directly spend their bitcoin. But how to developing countries new to bitcoin? because it would be difficult to find a physical store that accepts bitcoin there. And with it if we want to spend a bitcoin then we have to replace it in advance by fiat if a salary in the form of bitcoin. So the conclusion is easy or not is relative depending on each individual.

There are advantages and disadvantages on recieving  bitcoin as a salary it depends on what country do you live and it also depends on what would be the price of bitcoin. As you said there are countries are still developing to accept bitcoin payments they need to exchange  it first to fiat  before buying on a store. It really depends on persons choice.
6013  Economy / Economics / Re: Which one is good, trading or investing? on: July 31, 2016, 08:33:42 AM
I think trading is 10x better than investing. The funds that you "invest" to some random HYIP sites out there shall be considered as a donation to whoever owns that site. You're not getting back your money 90% of the time. You could try making an account in an HYIP site and now deposit at all, then just promote your ref link for the affiliate bonus. For the record, hashOcean is a big company and hashOcean has just ran away together with the money of a lot of investors.

In alt coin trading, there's also a chance that you lose your money. But atleast it's not 100% gone. Only a part of it if you sell it soon enough. You should join a group of alt coin traders so you could go with what they buy. Look for experts out there.

You are very right with that its better to do trading rather than investing on those hyips because all hyips are scam and never ever gives their investor to earn their roi and thats why its very bad idea to put your money out there, and i believe many people would really select tradings because they know that is the most trustable way to earn money by using our own strat.

Yes , trading is better than investing to those hyips but trading is isnt easy you say . and not all newbie or  beginners  can get it directly you will need  things  to consider  before you enter into trading. As you say its the trustable way  to earn money i do agree with that but it would also lose your money in this way just be sure you have the proper knowledge to it.
6014  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How do you know when to stop? on: July 31, 2016, 08:24:18 AM
Before I start to gamble first I set a limit when to stop on win or lose. If I lose 10% of my bankroll I stop to gamble

If you can control yourself to follow your rules while gambling then it is a good strategy to stop in gambling for the day. But many of the gamblers will start with similar plans but if they lose in the beginning they can't control and will continue to recover their losses and end up losing more or all money within no time.

Yeah it happened like this when someone lost big amount on very first bet, than it can be out of control if he get start to recover his lose while trying there, no doubt self control is the best strategy to try our luck and if we are lucky than we can get some money in profit.
yes it is a fact, and it become very difficult to decide when to stop gambling because most of the people have no control on their pulse and once they start loosing they play more and more just for to return the money and in turn he continue loosing his money, so if we have a proper planing from the start then it will easy for us to decide when to stop and when to start gambling again.

That kind of feeling is so hard to stop when you are at a middle of a game you will say to stop  only there but its really hard to do it since our feeling have been more strong to proceed and hoping to recover up the losses. Proper planning and proper mind set would be a good way  when you are  playing gambling.
6015  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How to earn 0.1 Bitcoin in month? on: July 31, 2016, 08:15:30 AM
PLAY casino games and WIN, i think thats easy way to do it! Grin
What casino games you mean? Poker, roulette, dice or etc? It's not easy, because it's depends with luck and how big your bankroll

Its not easy as you say. You will need a capital or money to use in gambling  then youll need a sort of luck  to gain or win on gambling but if the table would turn upsidedown then  your  money would be gone instead of having a plan to gain profit  you will end up nothing. Never ever try gambling if you have plan to grow your bitcoin since it has a big risk on alosing all your money.
6016  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is stealing Bitcoin illegal? on: July 31, 2016, 08:10:37 AM
It should be illegal because it has value and if it is taken out of the possession of someone that is robbery

Theft is theft; of course stealing Bitcoin is illegal. But there are more interesting questions here. Like, for example: How can you prove that someone stole your bitcoins?

Let's say that someone found your unencrypted paper wallet and stole your bitcoin, moving them to an address he controls. Now, you might be able to prove that someone is spending your coins, and you might even be able to figure out who it is. But how do you prove that you didn't send them the coins intentionally (and aren't trying to fraudulently get them back)? How do you prove that you are the only person who controls that private key and therefore are the rightful owner?

I don't think these questions have precedence yet. It will be interesting to see how courts deal with this in the future.


I do also think what you are trying to state. Thats suppose  to be the hardest case if ever they would handle since  its really hard to trace or prove something  that are actually  involves anonymity. Court would definitely pass this kind of things instead i think.  Grin
6017  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Problems you often face online in Bitcoin world? on: July 31, 2016, 08:01:13 AM
There are no major problems do i encounter in bitcoin but the thing  that  bothers me is the  transaction/ transferring bitcoin to another wallet seems sometimes are too long to wait. Even if you send a small amount   but the waiting time is too long sometimes .I wish it would  be more faster sometimes  .
6018  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How to earn bitcoin by sig campaign? on: July 31, 2016, 06:33:51 AM
Just knowing the rules isnt everything for getting participation in a campaign, because someone may get entry into a campaign without any questions because some campaigns accept users without looking their post quality of past like yobit, but after they join they must do constructive posts otherwise they will get banned and newbies would never be able to do that.


Yeah right, yobit indeed signature campaign that does not have a selection in the registration phase. But we know yobit now only received the rank of the members and I think if people have to build their account from newbie to the member that was not a beginner anymore. They already have knowledge about bitcoin, and probably already aware of the rules of this forum.

 newbie up ranking to member  is just enough to have knowledge  both forum and  you have already an idea on rules of signature campaigns. yobit does accept  only member rank  to higher rank. Just remember  if you already joined  then you must  make good quality post  and  not a spammy post since  they have character counter  of their yobit bot i guess. Thats the reason some members are being kicked and cant join anymore so be carefull.
6019  Economy / Economics / Re: How to save money. on: July 31, 2016, 06:27:56 AM
If your really  want to save some money, do work in real life then do signature campaign at the same time,all your money in Fiat use it for your daily needs and the bitcoin you earn here use for investment or trading in year you will see it's  not just small amount if you use your bitcoin carefully.

Well, you can really save that way, use your earnings in real life, and saving your bitcoin, but, I think it won't be that much..You can save only few if you will keep it in bitcoin, You still need proper management of your fiat so you won't resort to your bitcoin if your budget was short.. A simple living I think is the key to save money...

Having a simple living would really help a lot because it can reduce spending you money on non useful things and that are not truly needed for everyday living. With this  way you can learn to save and kept your money on savings. It really depends to a person on how he manages his money and wise enough to have plans for future using those savings later.
A goal is very important for you in order to have a success in savings, if you are just savings without any goal you can be easy tempted to buy things that you want the most, our savings should involve with our plan for investment in the future as that would to encourage you to save.

Yes you have a point, we must set a future goal so  that we  pursue to have savings on everyday basis because  if you dont have plan maybe you would buy another things instead  same as you said. Planning would be useful on setting your future goals on what would you do on  your  savings.
6020  Other / Off-topic / Re: Will you quit your day job to go full time on bitcoin? on: July 31, 2016, 06:19:53 AM
For Me. NO. Because you don't know when bitcoin stops, if you still gain profit or not. Not stable I mean. Unlike a full time Day job, you have a fixed monthly salary plus if you are good at your job, you can gain bonuses. The most commonly job on bitcoin is trading and gambling. Yes you can earn as much as 10 BTC at trading but to be sure, that will take years or even decades sometimes. But if you'll ask me, I'll do them both, I will continue my Full time Day Job and earning bitcoin at the same time.

I am agree with you that bitcoin have not any stable job for everyone. only trading is a way to get profit which is not confirmed.
but as you said that no one know when bitcoin stops. this is not right. bitcoin took it's place and it won't stop ever. its price may drop and up but it won't get dead or hide.

and to be true there are lots of stable jobs also. but these are for educated and skilled persons. like developers. designers. programmers. and lots of peoples are already doing full time job.

To make a life from bitcoin you dont need to be skilled, you need luck if you are just focus into trading and if at others ares you need just some project related to bitcoin, soo this can be a paid task and then become your source of bitcoins, sure isnt easy to build a business and achieve sucess instant.

I don't think I will follow this. You really want to just rely on your luck to survive. I think I have a better chance of succeeding in life, whether earning fiat or bitcoin, with my skills rather than my luck. I will not risk my life if it is only for luck. At least with my skills, I know what or what not I am capable. If you really want to earn and survive, fiat or bitcoin, work on your skills and use it.
Well, we all need luck in our life even in our present job today as when we are just a mere employee we don't control the future of the company we are working with.

With bitcoin, if have the skills you can earn a good amount of money and if you know how to save that is good for you as you can use your savings for future investment not only in bitcoin but also in real world.

Of course you will need some positive luck in your life, but it is different if you only rely in your luck to survive and not your skill. Skill is more consistent to provide money for you than on luck. Some days you'll have negative luck and you have no money. But skill will provide money with or without luck.

Skills are thing that wont  be separate to us  and no one could get  it from us which is a really good thing. Skills are much better than luck  because you can make money anytime if you do have a skills on a certain thing rahter than depending  on  luck all the time which is  not  a good way of living.
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