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6021  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Placing machines outside on cold winter? -20 on: October 02, 2015, 08:46:07 PM
AS long as you keep the air flowing and do not allow water to reach the miner I think you will be fine. This is around February and early march of this year and if I were you I would go for it.

This is the really hard part I forsee.  OP talks about a box outside in -20.   The miner will heat the inside of the box.  I think getting airflow outside without allowing moisture is going to be a really uphill battle.

I honestly hope OP does it as I have not seen it done outside in -20.  But I sure would start off with a cheap miner nothing nicer then a S3 in that box.  I'm afraid moisture will make it the box of death for a miner.


The box might get a li ttle heat, but the idea is to have the fulls fully blowing to get the hot air pushed outside.


I am running one outside atm, and it's 100% cool inside, but the temps are still warm

Can you take some pictures? Is the one outside in a box like you mentioned?

Also what kind of miner did you put out there?
6022  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [ANN] HashCoins - Cryptocurrency Mining Hardware Manufacturer on: October 02, 2015, 08:40:00 PM
Our company purchased 3 UranusMiner from HashCoin. We received the order confirmation and a regular invoice last July. The delivery was scheduled August/September. On the 15th of September they reported an issue regarding chip licenses without letting us know a specific delivery date. We have been waiting for two months now and it seems impossible to speak with someone in charge in the orders/shipping department. Anyone in the same situation? Is it possible to ask for a refund?
Thanks in advance


Unfortunately yes -> check this out!
If you read from page 33 to here, they do not give any refund, they try to model your Uranus purchase into a cloudmining contract....

Thanks for the advice! I will read for more details.

You are welcome  Grin
Maybe you start from page 1 and check out the behaviour of hashcoins with its customers  Roll Eyes

What you will see is they really only shipped two miners.  One was a old sha miner that was nothing special.  Other a scrypt they slapped a sticker on but did not make it was a batch split between 3 companies.

Since Zeus they have not released a miner that they have shown pre-order.    There still has not been a single Zeus to ever be found.

Sorry to hear about your loss on money.  You might look into a lawyer as chances shipment are pretty much none.
6023  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BITMAIN AntRouter R1: 1st wireless networking device with bitcoin mining chip on: October 02, 2015, 08:33:42 PM
Already sold out ??  Angry

It's not to surpising they put it up at a decent price.  I suspected much higher price then they did.   So I'm sure they had decent sales.

But there will no doubt be more batches of them to come.
6024  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Diff thread Oct 1 to Oct 14 picks are closed. 2x bonus! on: October 02, 2015, 08:28:58 PM
Bitwisdom slowly going down:

Bitcoin Difficulty:    60,813,224,039
Estimated Next Difficulty:    62,717,302,528 (+3.13%)
Adjust time:    After 1837 Blocks, About 12.6 days
Hashrate(?):    439,673,341 GH/s

Hopefully this continues over next few day's.  I really want to see a 2 percent change again.
6025  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Mining rigs rental is that profitable? on: October 02, 2015, 08:27:14 PM
if you could rent a large portion of the hashrate like 3ph of SHA then you could push up the interest in the coin as well as pump up the price

Are you talking about BTC?   Even if you rented 3PH on BTC it would not really pump up the price or effect it.  You would just be gambling assuming your solo mining.

On alt coins if you mean that on SHA.  There are not really many good ones.  Your chances of pump/dump are not as good as you think.
6026  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: GekkoScience Compac BM1384 Stickminer Official Support Thread on: October 02, 2015, 04:31:54 AM

Is this on the Pi that you set up the other day and had a little trouble with?

What kind of hub, USB 2.0 or USB 3.0? Pi's don't like 3.0 hub's and are really picky with 2.0 hub's, because some of them will back-feed power to the Pi.

Directly to my PC (Win7)

Then you can use any hub 3/2, etc.   Win 7 is a lot more forgiving on usb hubs.  So pretty much no worries besides how much power they have.

I have been playing with 3 compacs on freq got to 250 on regular cgminer 2.9.2.  Work rock solid.   Tomorrow I will get novak's version to be able to get higher.  Thanks for putting together a cgminer to get higher with these sticks!

I have a little bit of air from PC fan's blowing through and they seem to be doing very well.   
6027  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: YOU KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH THE 2GB VPS RAM? on: October 02, 2015, 04:21:03 AM
Read the ToS of the provider. Some applications might not be allowed, you wouldn't want to have what you're doing shut down. Perhaps hos a website, a server, store some files or all of those.

The more "buisness" ones such as EC2 and Azure are pretty good about allowing you to do what you want on their VPS.  But the bargin type VPS are very carefull on TOS as they just want ones who use very little resources.

One of the biggest I can think of is Digital Ocean.  They advertise all the time start with X free dollars.  Throw a miner on their server you will be suprised how quick they lock it up and ask for credentials from you for unlock (correct me if they have changed I highly doubt it).
6028  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: What is the safest way to store Bitcoins? on: October 02, 2015, 04:15:16 AM
Print out a paper wallet and put copies in a safety deposit box at a trusted bank.

Lol thats like putting your sheep in the lion's mouth to "safeguard it"

No you cannot trust deposit boxes with bitcoin, too risky. In Greece they dont let you even to your deposit boxes, not to mention about atm being offline and banks not giving out money.

Better buy a safe for 2000-3000$ if you have like 100,000$ worth of bitcoin or some significant amount atleast.

You can buy a good safe for much cheaper.   I would say in high hundreds you can get one that does pretty well, main thing is get one that is heavy as it is hard to carry out.   In my highschool day's I worked somewhere that sold gun safes.... i can tell you it will take a team to move those things if you buy quality.   But you can spend thousands and get super high quality (some are so heavy you have to put extra construction under the floor so it does not sag).

But not all are like Greece.  In the US it's pretty likely in the foreseeable future a safety deposit box is safe.  If your countries credit starts to go down a lot... downgraded like greece was being ... go get it out there are signs before it get's that bad.
6029  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Best way to earn Bitcoins? on: October 02, 2015, 04:10:13 AM
Currently BURST is my recommendation. Invest in BURST and it's assets, just today 3 of the BURST assets paid it's dividends (end of month), including mine.

Some assets generated up to 0.13BTC in value. You just buy the BURST , then the assets, then you get dividends on them.

After you decide to cash out, you just convert back it into Bitcoin, and make profit.

Any idea where I could find those Burst assets? Sorry for my ignorance, but I haven’t seen any as to this date. Please let me know as I would like to invest in them too.

You buy them from the BURST client, there is a built in asset exchange from where you can buy the assets.

I`ve just made a list of the established BUST assets, my asset is the fastest growing one with the 2nd highest monthly trading volume:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=731923.msg12577687#msg12577687

I'm lost as to where the money comes from, though. How is this profitable?

I would agree with a little confusing. I find the fact that its HD mined crazy.  How do SSD vs regular HD do? 

What is to stop someone from taking one HD and partion it into many.... and you have 10... 20 miners on hd?
6030  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: do you believe with bitcoin on: October 02, 2015, 04:04:58 AM

Bitcoin can, but most of here says no and I agree with that because if bitcoin will be the number one and replace fiat currencies. I think Government and others will control it to take advantage to manipulate. Never be number one for bitcoin for me its okay to be number 2 and bitcoin is the better than Paypal, credit cards etc.

Yes. Bitcoin can be trusted to transform world economy into new level. For this reason I also believe in bitcoin. Believing not just in bitcoin but into the core technology which makes bitcoin possible. So, blockchain technology is the reason makes me to believe in bitcoin.


But for me I'm not agree bitcoin will be number one and replace fiat currencies. If that case bitcoin will be replace fait currency in the future for me I don't want government take control it and manipulate it as you can see in real world there is always a corrupt. that is why I don't want bitcoin to replace or to be number one Fiat currencies . just saying

I think it's a little unfair to say all government fiat currencies are corrupt.   Some governments they help their fiat money remain valuable.  Other countries are "bad" or corrupt and their fiat will have massive inflation. 

Bitcoin really needs government acceptance to last long term.  You will see exchanges registering with governments to do business.  If we want mass acceptance we also want government acceptance to a point.  If a government tries to block bitcoin or go against it that would not be good for value.
6031  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: After ASIC mfgs, comes the ASIC recyclers? on: October 02, 2015, 03:51:22 AM
A lot of miners have multiple owners.  It's really different day's in the world of asics then GPU's.   GPU's you used them to mine and most sold to a gamer who would use.

With asic it seems higher priced electricity people stick with new gear because of efficiency.  At a certain point though it makes to little and is sold online to someone with lower electricity.   

It would not surprise me if miners at this point have 3 homes by the end of their life.   I think we will only see more of this moving to lower priced electricity places with old asics.

On old gear what I hope happens is parts are reused.   I know this likely will not happen.  But imagine if we could get a place to store A1 cases and heatsinks some third party could make a upgraded hashing pcb and you have a new miner.   I really wish there was more upgrading but it does not seem to happen much.  Sadly you are probley right about them going to recycle's who sell for metal value at some point.
6032  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Diff thread Oct 1 to Oct 14 picks are closed. 2x bonus! on: October 02, 2015, 03:45:32 AM
The interesting thing about this time period is it currently being a holiday in China.  I was surprised to see 3-4 percent.  I was hoping that we might see even smaller as no new miners should be built during this period.

And I could be a idiot and bitmain might be filling up S7's in a data center during the holiday to test.  Just waiting till after holiday to ship.  Not sure what to think with current difficulty.
6033  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Placing machines outside on cold winter? -20 on: October 02, 2015, 03:42:40 AM
AS long as you keep the air flowing and do not allow water to reach the miner I think you will be fine. This is around February and early march of this year and if I were you I would go for it.

This is the really hard part I forsee.  OP talks about a box outside in -20.   The miner will heat the inside of the box.  I think getting airflow outside without allowing moisture is going to be a really uphill battle.

I honestly hope OP does it as I have not seen it done outside in -20.  But I sure would start off with a cheap miner nothing nicer then a S3 in that box.  I'm afraid moisture will make it the box of death for a miner.
6034  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: GekkoScience Compac BM1384 Stickminer Official Support Thread on: October 02, 2015, 03:31:29 AM
Herbpean - what's your errors look like? Even shares that aren't registered as over diff, if they're not error shares, should clear the reset timer. We have sticks running at diff 512 that don't reset because they're submitting valid shares regardless of the pool vardiff. If a stick submitted no shares to cgminer (not the pool, cgminer), or submitted only error shares, for a period of ten seconds, it would reset. If everything's working properly (chip has good voltage, stays cool etc) that should be a very unlikely condition.

The stick is set to 150 mhz, my guess it's the voltage. (I had to crank it up a bit) I have 0 HW as speak but it's only running since 1 hour. Maybe i'm too close from what my usb can handle in term of amp.

I restarted my cgminer with diff set to 8, no reset yet.

It would looks like this message

[2014-04-10 10:16:01] ANU 8 COMPAC X: No valid hashes for over 53 10 secs, attempting to reset
[2014-04-10 10:16:01] ANU 8 COMPAC X attempted reset got err:(0) LIBUSB_SUCCESS

EDIT: the chip is cold, I have a use fan pointing at him.
EDIT: other then the reset ... it's looks all good, getting 8.29gh pool side (ck solo pool with our group)

Is this on the Pi that you set up the other day and had a little trouble with?

What kind of hub, USB 2.0 or USB 3.0? Pi's don't like 3.0 hub's and are really picky with 2.0 hub's, because some of them will back-feed power to the Pi.

I can attest to this.  The RPI does not work with all hubs.  Avoid 3.0 as there is a very good chance it just wont work.   On 2.0 if the powered hub sends power feedback the PI does not like it.

I have seen one guaranteed way to stop power feedback some say cutting the red wire works (do not do this if usb cord is attached to hub only if it's a cheap usb cord not connected).  I did this on one and it did work.

Other weird way I found to make some powered USB hubs work with pi is put a non-powered hub between the powered hub and the PI.  I tried this and it also worked on the hub I had.

Or you can read a few boards do share one confirmed to work with PI but i prefer to tinker so I bought cheap good powered ones and tinkered with them.
6035  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Dragon Miner A1 module hashing at unusual amounts on: October 02, 2015, 03:25:29 AM
Could someone maybe link somewhere to buy a new module? Im not sure wjere to get one of these replaced. Lktec didnt respond to emails.


They no longer make the A1.   You will be stuck to second hand channels most likely.   So you can check here on the forum for a 1t module.  Most likely that module with the high hashing will not be the same it's chances are a dud at this point. 

You might give Mr. Lee a pm and see if he has any - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=934581.0 .  It's been a long time but at one point he hosted a lot of A1's.  Dont know if he still has some parts or not but hes your best chance of a "big" seller having any.  If he does not hit the hardware board.   

But in all honesty chances are shipping and what you get charged on module will cost more then it will mine.  Do some ROI math but you might be better off just running 3 modules.
6036  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BITMAIN AntRouter R1: 1st wireless networking device with bitcoin mining chip on: October 02, 2015, 03:15:40 AM
I certainly hope so, otherwise this thing is totally useless and a gimmick.

And knowing Bitmain their fork of cgminer on the R1 will have crap messed up in it and it won't be efficient as it could be and Kano will have to write an updated R1 version...
Totally useless? I think that is quite the overreach, if it can give ethernet only devices (Many miners) connection to a wifi signal, power a phone or pi and mine I think is worth the extra 10$ over a tplink that I use just to connect a miner to wifi.

So you have "thing A" that does the exact same thing as "thing B", except "thing A" costs more to purchase, and costs more to operate (because of the ASIC), and both "things" have basically the same chance of solving a solo block (0 for "thing B", essentially 0 for "thing A" and getting closer to 0 with every + diff adjustment)?

I am failing to see where I overreached here.  You probably thought the bitfury lightbulb had merit, too.

its a novelty, but its ideal for a future where someone who doesnt know how to easily buy bitcoin can have a small wifi router that gives them small lottery odds.
personally, i want it to be pool-customizable. The above scenario works way better when the user can instead make a few cents a day for use in online tipping or micropayments

but mostly, its a novelty thing. It pairs perfectly with the U3 as a cute "look im mining bitcoins!" doohicky and otherwise would look nice added to the stack of old/collectible antminer hardware

Lets be honest it is a novelty no doubt.  It is not useless but it by far will not ROI for pretty much everyone.   The argument on it being worth 10 more then tplink nano..... i don't know Avalon has used the tplink nano (the one with the usb not the one lacking usb) as a good controller running ddwrt and cgminer.

Also don't forget you can get tplink off amazon with prime free shipping or not it's cheap.   Bitmain did not give a cheap shipping option on a lotto device they should have a slow shipping option.   But they did not make us buy a pack of 10 or something so that is a change from U3 sales which is good.   But I will buy one as it's fun to play with.

I still think we can count on the community for a firmware that will unlock some features on the R1.  
6037  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [SIDEHACK STICK] Official sales thread for everywhere not already covered on: October 02, 2015, 03:06:46 AM
I think we'll carry the Amita name over to pods though, if we end up building any.

I sincerely hope that you do!  I love my sticks and would love a replacement for the U3 just as much.

I'm all for more miners.  Very good quality on the compacs.  Thanks I got my 2 new ones today.  

They are very fun to play with have a RPI going right now with them.    I would love to see a multi chip usb or pod.
6038  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Sidehack stick solo pool club on: October 02, 2015, 03:02:50 AM
Bumping up my speed some http://solo.ckpool.org/workers/1JiWuyX94wrCr7JhkAn7x5qNMCEef1KhqX.notlist3dstick

It will change a little as I am changing freq on 3 of the sticks.  So 5 sticks total, and 3 have y adapters and slowly playing with freq.   Pretty fun day.
6039  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How can I go about choosing a software wallet when there appear to be so many? on: October 01, 2015, 10:10:12 PM
just use electrum and all will be fine, its simple and easy to use, no need for anything else....

I would not guarentee this if on a computer your using for internet and other things where it's online.  This is considered a hot wallet if online.

OP look into cold wallets and hardware.  Either one of these is the best as far as security.  If storing a lot defeintally look into it.

yea but an online electrum is still better than shady online wallets. I heard many scammer wallets stole tons of bitcoins.

Not wanna get fucked by those, better to store them on your own no?

Depends on if computer is hacked or not.  Not sure which wallets you are calling shady online wallets.  Is there a specific one you are talking about?

But again cold wallet is better then hot wallet.  There is some need for hot wallets, but look into hardware or paper wallets if storing a lot.
6040  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: What is the safest and simplest way to keep bitcoins? on: October 01, 2015, 10:08:06 PM
Except that if I want to save a considerable amount of money, but in bitcoins.

Then print a paper wallet, put it into a safe place and move your bitcoins there.
if I create a paper wallet and move my bitcoin there then how can I send bitcoin to someone if I need to? what do I do to use it?
Paper wallet is safe but is not as user friendly as offline computer. Mycelium has a feature which allows you to spend money from your paper wallet by scanning a Qr code. However, it would not exactly qualify as safe if you were to use your phone which you use daily as it would be exposed to the internet. Buying an android phone isn't viable as purchasing a raspberry pi and install electrum on it.

The more I hear ideas, the more I get pushed to the idea that hardware wallets are the way to go (like Trezor). Even the pi can be exploited.

Only if you do something wrong with the PI.  Such as searching online with it and using it as not a cold storage device.   If you use a pi as storage chances are it should be offline.

I suppose it's possible a computer on network is infected and it get's to pi when it's plugged in temporary. But will not happen to often on this.

As far as cold wallets paper still beats pi on security.  You can not hack a paper (as long as it's done right).
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