no offence how come you seem so interested in this site and not other dice sites that came out with the same system, is this dooglus website in the hiding maybe? was thinking this cause dooglus is even participating and so involved in dicebitco is very suspicious.
What other dice sites are there? dicenow - has horrible slow windows 8 'metro' look; crashes my browser constantly win88 - takes 20% commission, and even charges investors when they lose prcdice - I find it next to impossible to get a straight answer from them about anything primedice - no invest option coinroll - see primedice Did I miss anyone? I don't know of any other site with decent customer support, an invest option, a stable site, and significant bet volume. If you do, please enlighten me. DiceBitco.in isn't my site in any sense. I am involved in 4 ways that I can think of: 1) I have bet there (and am 10.5 BTC up on one account and 2.2 BTC up on the other) 2) I am invested there (60 BTC, with a negative profit) 3) I have them in my forum signature 4) They recently emailed me asking if I could escrow part of this month's signature campaign payment; I accepted |
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It seems that he/she took after dooglus.  I am not affiliated with Shu in any way (other than being co-owner of DB with him, being married to him, and occasionally sleeping with him).  Edit: I guess I ought to point out that the part in (parentheses) is a joke! |
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So if investors make a profit, you take 20% of it (every other site I know of takes just 10% if it), and if they make a loss, you take 2% of their whole investment? Every week? Or every time they divest? (no other site I know of does this at all) Good luck with that! |
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Copywriting Copywriting is one of the most essential elements of effective online marketing. Lets's [...]. I like the beautiful design of your post, but you should check the spelling. Don't you know that copywriting is one of the most essential elements's of effective online marketing? |
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dooglus, Thanks for the post. We have added 1$ to your account proxy.
I'm not sure what an account proxy is. Please send it to the Bitcoin address I posted. |
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So now that dooglus is recommending Dicebitco.in (both in his sig and by directly investing himself), it seems that this might become the ultimate successor to the great JD. Please note that I am not affiliated in any way with DiceBitco.in other than as a player, investor, and signature campaigner! I've seen talk on another dice site speculating that I own the site. That isn't true at all, sorry. I'm curious whether anyone can help me understand the logic of the argument. Any idea what is meant by "second statment" here and how it somehow implies that the majority of DiceBitco.in's investment came from me? 18:17: dooglus: I don't want to run a dice site - I don't want the hassle of customer support, web design, regulation, etc. 18:17: KLYE: Then outsource. -_- 18:17: wanton: with all the money you make, you could hire people 18:17: dooglus: outsource what? 18:18: wanton: customer support 18:18: KLYE: JD had weeks it didn't make shit 18:18: wanton: web design 18:18: dooglus: you can't outsource trust - and that's my main selling point 18:18: KLYE: The customer service man. 18:18: arrogant: involves a lot of trust 18:18: arrogant: yeah 18:18: KLYE: Sure you can 18:18: dooglus: you need to trust CSRs 18:18: KLYE: People trust a brand 18:18: KLYE: You buy a brand because you trust it 18:18: dooglus: I think people are smart enough to know that brands aren't trustworthy 18:18: Dean Nolan: am I reading all this right? 18:18: melds39: why didn't you keep it open and try to sell it? 18:18: dooglus: only people are trustworthy 18:18: melds39: thats dumb 18:18: BazzaBot: Congrats! @arro has just received 0.0001BTC. 18:19: arrogant: Riiiged 18:19: Dean Nolan: so dice whatever it's called clearly has the surge in investment because doog has been putting it in18:19: dooglus: "clearly"? is there any reasoning behind that?18:19: arrogant: does that bother you? 18:19: Dean Nolan: yes 18:19: Dean Nolan: read the second statment18:19: Dean Nolan: no arro 18:20: arrogant: oh ok 18:20: dooglus: second? where do I count from?18:20: Dean Nolan: 1 and then 2, thought you'd be good at maths18:21: melds39: oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo 18:21: dooglus: I maybe missed some lines. I didn't see a 1 or a 2 18:21: Dean Nolan: well you are known to cut chat messages out  18:21: melds39: OooOOooOOooooOOOOo 18:21: dooglus: I sometimes edit for length and clarity, yes 18:22: wanton: dooglus, please satisfy all of our curiosity and give us an unequivocal statement 18:22: wanton: re investment and/or ownership 18:22: Dean Nolan: to try and make yourself look good which never worked? Yeah brilliant 18:22: dooglus: like in the log of you evading all my questions about my withdrawal request, I edited out the lines from the bot 18:22: melds39: lol 18:22: dooglus: wanton: what do you want to know? 18:22: Dean Nolan: see above, see my btctalk reply 18:22: chazley: its gettin hot in heeeeeere 18:22: wanton: 1. do you have any ownership interest in that dicebitco.in site 18:22: Dean Nolan: doog your embarrassing yourself 18:22: wanton: 2. do you have money invested there 18:22: dooglus: I don't have any relationship with dicebitco.in other than as a player (profit: 10 BTC) and investor (60 BTC, profit negative) 18:22: dooglus: is that clear enough? 18:23: wanton: crystal 18:23: KLYE: Darn. :/ 18:23: KLYE: I was hoping you had a new site. 18:23: arrogant: Dean I think you have that a bit backwards |
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Unless you've got hundreds or thousands in your account, why would you make such stupid bets when you knew you'd go bust in only 5 bets? Might as well have just donated those coins to the site.
That's no more stupid than any other strategy. You can play to go bust in 6 bets instead of 5, but you make half as much each time. |
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So, the house makes money only from investment profit commission and no other way ?
Well, the house is also invested (to the tune of 200 BTC, apparently) and so they make profit that way too. Or would, if the players would stop winning! |
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Thanks. Send it to 18KSgPcNRPi9K4bp91Vb3pVNygPon4y5Pw |
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Also, why everyone is calling us BD? Shouldnt be DB? (DiceBitco.in??)
Maybe because your title tags on the site say "Bitcoin dice"... |
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If I have the address A with 2 nodes, one with 5 CLAM and other with 3 CLAM; if I select the node of 3 CLAM and send it to another address, the age of node of 5 CLAM will be reseted ?
Thanks.
Addresses almost never matter. It's all about the individual outputs. Your 3 and your 5 are separate things with their own ages. The client will probably merge them into a single output when either of them stakes, so you might want to keep them in different addresses. That will stop them being merged. |
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Hey! Only about 10% of my pubes are grey! |
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if dicebitco.in works similar like just-dice I think your math is wrong, because there is a 10 % fee on investment profits.
(probably in order to pay for hosting, security and so on)
I forgot to mention commission, you're right. Everything I wrote is true, BUT at the end of each week the site takes 10% of any new net investment profits from you. As I understand it, DB works exactly the same as JD in that respect - if you lose one week and win it back the next week, you don't pay any commission on the part that recovered your losses, etc. |
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The "Stake" line of your balance are the CLAMS which have ALREADY staked.
In fact, the "Stake" line is the total of all the CLAMs which have RECENTLY staked, and so are currently unavailable for spending until they mature (which takes 510 blocks, or about 9 hours). |
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I'm not sure about staking at all. I've got 20 odd clams in wallet 3500+ confirmations. I have 0 clams staked...I just leave wallet online.....am I missing something here?
help > debug > console > listunspent What does that show? Your 'weight' looks wrong - too low.  [ { "txid" : "4d5d45c7b3d575076a2a1446584d1ba1e25d696be01f787436cd750cf299e33f", "vout" : 1, "address" : "xCcU9AdyheZjG8jtV99MfHzv6Fm5t1hrsf", "scriptPubKey" : "210311ca668d61be81fcf0fd9caa6767904fd7b91739c1ad1f7c886f12f2ae7abb23ac", "amount" : 8.99500000, "confirmations" : 3026 }, { "txid" : "5a081ca523afbedcd6b9d6c85ee2a13681285a96f57622f39d367ac310e28031", "vout" : 1, "address" : "xP89XQ78Kx3NhctY9mHgc9t4kKSgooWeak", "scriptPubKey" : "21023199d5c2ba730dda0c03c3aa720456dc498849c1cf26f7e2ef0f04b8606b8657ac", "amount" : 5.10545574, "confirmations" : 2078 }, { "txid" : "6af7c7de2b3e7a2052cf48e80b3795bd677f218495c2768a2dba31c1ed42928d", "vout" : 1, "address" : "xST4HRa4Z5hEHUKv6SkamtEXyxLSRMpst8", "scriptPubKey" : "2102c865890393db82b8d03072c7937648c04143edcf361b8e89c7e525f143e88b80ac", "amount" : 6.60421825, "confirmations" : 7230 } ] my "weight" : 37, Why at 40 clam weights over 500 I can transfer all Clam in a new purse Your "weight" is what you get when you add up ((the age of each output in days minus 4 hours) multiplied by the size of each output in CLAMs) Each time you move coins around, their age goes back to zero, and so you lose weight, and your chance of staking goes back down. So it's best to leave them alone. With 20 CLAMs, your weight should go up by 20 every 24 hours. Is that what you are seeing? |
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Okies Dooglus ... can u please tell me how it was handled in Just-Dice or done in DiceBitcoin ? When an user wins where goes the house edge ? Does it go to the site owner or to the bankroll ? I dint get the explanation here => https://dicebitco.in/about/investmentsYou're a little confused I think. First off, the "house edge" isn't an amount of coins, and so it doesn't "go" anywhere. Both Just-Dice and DiceBitco.in have a 1% house edge. That means that the payouts are set such that in the very long run the site expects to win 1% of everything the players bet. Basically the percentage chance of winning a bet multiplied by the payout multiplier is 99. The 2x bet has a 49.5% chance of winning (2 times 49.5 is 99) The 10x bet has a 9.9% chance of winning (10 times 9.9 is 99) The 1.1x bet has a 90% chance of winning (1.1 times 90 is 99) And so on. So the chances of winning are 1% smaller than "they should be" - a game with no house edge would give you a 50% chance of winning a bet to double your money, not a 49.5% chance. Because of that, the house expects to make a profit over time. Sometimes they'll win more than 1% of the amount bet, sometimes they'll win less (or even lose). Any profits they do make get split up between all the people providing the bankroll ("the investors") in proportion to the size of their investment. For example, the owners of the site have put 200 BTC into the bankroll, I have put 60 BTC in, and a whole bunch of other people have put in other amounts. Suppose the entire bankroll is 1000 BTC (to make the math easy). My 60 BTC is then exactly 6% of the bankroll, and the owners' 200 BTC is 20% of it. Then, if someone deposits 1 BTC onto the site, bets, and loses it, that 1 BTC gets split up to all the investors. I get 6% of it - that's 0.06 BTC. The owners get 20% of it, or 0.2 BTC, and so on. If someone else deposits 1 BTC and wins 2 BTC, that 2 BTC is paid by all the investors. I pay 6% of it (that's 0.12 BTC) and so on. Does that make sense now? Is there something in particular on https://dicebitco.in/about/investments that didn't make sense to you? If so, what bit? Also, take a look on Just-Dice.com - click the 'invest' tab and read the explanation there. Is that clearer? Is there a part that makes it clear to you that you were missing before? |
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Yep... DiceBitcoin Sig campaign pays for 400 posts per month. But that really does not matter to Dooglus as I understand. Even he is not paid it does not matter to him. I think he has more coins from Just-Dice than the current bankroll of DiceBitcoin. He is probably wearing the sig because he has invested a lot in DiceBitcoin.
Oh, for some reason I was thinking it was 100. I probably won't make 400 posts per month since I'm only at 5k posts after 3 years. I've not changed my posting style since signing up for the signature campaign, and won't. I can't imagine that a posting style that was acceptable for the last 3 years suddenly becomes unacceptable because I'm getting paid to advertise a website - what sense would that make? I currently have 60 BTC invested in DiceBitco.in. I use their sig because the one I was using before (Just-Dice) had outlived its usefulness, and I like DiceBitco.in and feel they should get more attention. People keep asking where to play and invest now that JD has gone, and I didn't know what to tell them. I was having a hard time finding a decent replacement until I discovered DiceBitco.in, and so now I link to them in my signature. |
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Dooglus, why don't you post like that quote, like everyone else does?
It doesn't look messy so there is no reason to do multiple posts in row.
I'm pretty sure if anyone less known user would make multiple posts in row like you do, he would get banned/posts deleted for post padding.
When I see a message I want to reply to, I reply to it. When I see another, I reply to that, too. Nobody ever had a problem with it before. I'm sorry if it offends you. I use 'edit' if I want to change something in an existing post, but for separate ideas I use separate posts, and doubt that is anywhere close to being a bannable offence for anyone. Edit (you're welcome): I expect I'll easily exceed the 100 posts per month that the sig campaign pays for, so my "post padding" behaviour isn't gaining me any extra bit-dust. |
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I'm not sure about staking at all. I've got 20 odd clams in wallet 3500+ confirmations. I have 0 clams staked...I just leave wallet online.....am I missing something here?
help > debug > console > listunspent What does that show? Your 'weight' looks wrong - too low. |
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It seems I missed all the fun. So does it mean the site was down something like 30+ BTC at one point, since it's still down 9 BTC even after doog's showdown? I want my 1% dammit.
Yes, the site was down around 35 BTC before my losing streak. |
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