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6021  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 10, 2013, 10:36:02 AM
China and btc e falling by themselves over the last hour or so, gox barely any volume.

The fact that there is any volume, is an indication that someone is buying. This is bullish! To the m00n, boyz!  Grin
6022  Economy / Economics / Re: rpietila public diary -- Episode II on: December 10, 2013, 09:41:02 AM
true and i'd love to do the same.. however my concern is this... you park funds and coins overseas on an exchange that can get shutdown anytime especially in a place like china where things can get ugly... next, he only has unrealized profit until he's able to cash out or get more coins than he transferred otherwise there's huge risk of losing both due to exchange shutdown right? so i only wanted to understand if he was somehow minimizing his risk by withdrawing excess yuans to hedge against that... other than all i can add is that it's a very simple yet very effective trading strategy... i just wish i started doing this much earlier...

Withdraw is not a problem, I can buyback and withdraw everything I have in the exchanges, in 1-2 hours, 12 hours at most.

Of course if something happens unexpectedly, then the funds are trapped until they become available again. But in my past I have already been target of a "governmental denial-of-service attack" where all my funds were confiscated for months. So I know how it feels and can accept the risk. I don't send more to the exchanges than I can afford to lose, and the probability of permanent loss with the current exchanges is very much smaller than with the scammy exchanges of the past.

I disclose the reply made to Bitstamp KYC questionnaire:

Quote from: rpietila
Quote from: bitstamp
1. How did you learn about Bitcoin?
2. The purpose of trading on Bitstamp?
3. What type of trading will be conducted? Buying/selling/both? Estimated trade volume per month?
4. Which bank are you using? Please provide the complete address and SWIFT code.
5. Estimated amount that you would be depositing/withdrawing to/from your Bitstamp account per month (in USD and BTC)?
6. What is the origin of the funds which you are depositing to your Bitstamp account? Please provide any financial documentation confirming its origin.

1. We have had an investment club since 2010. Bitcoin was a general table topic there since October, 2010.

2.-6. I am "rpietila" in Bitcointalk.org, recently estimated to be among the 100 largest holders of bitcoins. It started by purchasing about 4500 bitcoins for EUR 10000 in late 2011 in Mt.Gox. All my current trading position (of about 3000 bitcoins, part of which is in currencies) derives from this purchase. I am a businessman with midsize (7 figure) operations in Finland and Estonia, the funds are from the business originally.

My current trading strategy is based on doing large-scale arbitrage between different exchanges and global (though small) OTC trade. To accomplish this, I generally keep the funds (BTC/fiat) in exchanges, but trade actively to the direction where I can sell and buy at favorable prices. My trading volume may reach about 1000 BTC per day in Bitstamp (and similar amounts in other exchanges). Even though the monthly volume can be very high, it does not result in much net increase/decrease of my BTC position.

All USD deposits to Bitstamp are money that I have previously withdrawn for risk management reasons. There is no net USD coming from anywhere. I have a 1-2 month plan of withdrawing in total about 1 million USD, after which it may be redeposited if needed, but I will also use it for purchasing of other assets.

In the long term, if BTC exchange rate continues to go up, I plan on making strategic divestments that are a certain percentage of my holdings.

BTC deposits/withdrawals are made mainly between exchanges for the purposes of the arbitrage strategy explained above. Their flow is bi-directional and also cancels out over time.

4. The bank is Lopen Osuuspankki (Pohjola Bank), OKOYFIHH. Kauppatie 2, 12700 Loppi FINLAND.

You already have my passport picture, that has not changed.
6023  Economy / Economics / Re: rpietila public diary -- Episode II on: December 10, 2013, 09:04:54 AM
Bitcoin is now going much faster than the dark side. Your threats may come to fruition in 5-10 years, do you not think that we can outpace them with new innovation in the meanwhile?

I am hoping we can. I am happy to see this attitude from you. When you say "Bitcoin" I think you know you refer to an ecosystem and a phenomenon that is not necessarily limited to one crypto-currency design. It may be, but that is not 100% certain. Screw my efforts that is irrelevant to the point I am making.

Yes, in my speech "Bitcoin" has begun to mean the whole monetary and liberty emancipation.  Smiley

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So to ignore the facts (e.g. about Bitcoin's design flaws) is to I think be obstinate. Now if we say that flaws aren't a hindrance to the big picture because that ecosystem is building momentum which isn't just one design (as if God ever intended for a lack of diversity on earth when he said "go forth and multiply"), then I personally view that as not obstinate.

Matters such as Bitcoin's desing flaws, are quite high. Similar as the fundamental flaws of the previous system. Only very talented people should make the research of them their main job. We both belonged to this category in the silver era, and now in Bitcoin era. I don't think we should introduce technical matters to the general public, as we are still in the situation that most people would benefit more (EV-wise) by just buying in with moderate amounts and letting the profits run (than by endlessly analysing all the possible points of failure, which do remain, but postponing your buying loses you money BIG TIME, I mean you). This also strengthens the Bitcoin economy more than talk which is founded in possible dangers far in the future.

But see how little they have accomplished in 12 years! All the gains in spying power have come at the expense of greatly increased information (and later monetary) freedom to everyone.

The QE ended up as dollar bond issues throughout the developing world. Thus what they've been successfully doing the past 12 years is running up the debt of the world, and preparing all the tracking technologies, for the global implosion that will begin before 2020 (and after 2015).
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Don't concentrate on FUD-news too much. I don't follow the news on QE or anything for that matter, just happily concentrate on Bitcoin:
1) See how I'm doing, not bad ha? Wink
2) When Bitcoin grows big enough, it just eats up all the problems of the world. Some of them may need help but it is best to attack from a position of upper ground, and at a time when victory is ensured (Sun Tzu, et.al.)

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Proverbs 22:7
New International Version (NIV)
7 The rich rule over the poor,
    and the borrower is slave to the lender.

They have not been idle. If you and others don't see it, that means they've been even more successful in slow cooking the frogs.

I am quite serious in my assessment that I serve exactly in the place that fits me best and gives the most leverage to those who read me. I am quite certain that you are also doing what you should. Even caring about their cooking is admitting that they have something in you. Jesus said, "the prince of this world is coming, and in me he has nothing."

You quote is actually true in both levels:
- Rich (much BTC) rule over (employ) the poor (few BTC). This is righteous.
- The borrower (in current system, practically all the govs, most businesses, and those people that in any way have any debt, even indirectly by being citizens of debt-enslaved countries) are slaves to the lenders (the Rothschild and their cronies). This is unrighteous and will be ended.

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And the internet has become more controlled by the large majors (e.g. one can't realistically surf the internet without Google's cookie getting into the browser with its ads on every other site) and my analysis (educated opinion) is that Bitcoin is also flawed in ways that fits right into the overall plan.

Correct, but I don't have the time to concentrate on that just now. It will resolve itself automatically (perhaps requiring hard work from you, but automatic for me Wink ) In the same way as my 6-week old threads are now considered "classics" but 7 weeks ago they did not exist...

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who just cannot understand that the readers are not interested in anything that he is able to produce
It is inaccurate to assume I can not and do not understand that most readers (especially those following your thread) are interested in BTC's price and adoption.

This is about another person, whose contribution to the thread was to 3 times announce that he does not understand how arbitrage works, and therefore does not believe anything else I say. Fine for him, I deleted the crap and left only the explanation how it works. But in the future I will not be so "kind" to waste my time with such. It is not kindness at all when considered from the readers' point of view, to spend your time unnecessary explaining matters that are general knowledge and could be found with a little effort, if the time could be used for some new valuable contribution. I know this is the case only rarely, so those opportunities must be seized, even if it means less time for paperwork.

The mass market, around 70% of the world's population, doesn't have the benefit of getting a credit card or bank account. Now they can skip a generation of infrastructure investment and go straight to Bitcoin or any other coin with a mobile phone and a coin wallet.
And nearly none of them have the savvy or ability. You won't be zapping your Android wallet to the lady selling fish in the wet market in a 3rd world country even within 5 years. There is simply no compelling reason for them to do so. The transactions would be much too slow any way.

Small (token, often unredeemable) coins have always been a form of payment, and I see no reason why this would change even in Bitcoin economy. I have spent countless hours designing a silver-backed coinage for the monetary system that never came. Now all this knowledge can be put into general use Smiley

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If this is the basis of your confidence to dismiss the expertise of others who have something contrary to say about Bitcoin, that would not make me too confident about you doing thorough research.

Ftr was not criticizing you.

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I assume you instead have deeply analyzed the technology and know it as the back of your hand. And if I ask you technical questions, then you would be able to answer them with ease.

Shoot.

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I assume programming for the internet in 1996 is before you did.

I started doing spreadsheet simulations about the world economy and various other topics in 1990, I assume before you did.
6024  Economy / Economics / Re: Monthly average USD/bitcoin price & trend on: December 10, 2013, 08:10:14 AM
If we truly are going to the "more vertical" part of the S-curve, there's a possibility that the growth is so fast that it goes toward parabolic rather than logarithmic.  So we may be seeing that uptick OR we may be WAY ahead of where we should be still (although $500 seems VERY firm at this point).

Where were we 30 days ago? Oh yes, $290, and just had crossed the ATH and everybody felt so good.

Now, $912 seems "cheap" to them who would like it go to the moon before Christmas.

There is still so much air in the bubble. Hard to know, which outcome I would like most, ch00 ch00 or orderly reversion to the trend.

Is it true that the end stage of mania can go geometrically super-linear, meaning an acceleration of the percentage rate growth in price?

I expect we've moved into bubble blowup phase transition already, because this is psychologically to the internet as the invention of the combustion engine was to gasoline. Before that we were burning whale oil for lamp lighting.

As stated upthread, I think the logistic S curve is inapplicable to a mania. Rather it is applicable to adoption of technology for efficiency reasons, e.g. modern appliances and computers. Bitcoin adoption is driven not for primarily for efficiency although one can make arguments for and against Bitcoin being more efficient, rather for innate survival instincts that resolve around saving for the lean times, i.e. the notion that one's savings could be devalued to nothing by not buying it.

S-curve is very applicable to Bitcoin's adoption as a payment technology "use as a currency".

Don't everyone think that the "store-of-value" aspect was a little overextended when the average bitcoin stash per owner was $12,000 a week ago?

(If not, then just scale it to the adult population of the world and we get $54 trillion bitcoin market cap when all are in (9 times that of gold). Sounds like what we've been dreaming, ergo must be true.)  Cool
6025  Economy / Economics / Re: Monthly average USD/bitcoin price & trend on: December 09, 2013, 10:43:12 PM
If we truly are going to the "more vertical" part of the S-curve, there's a possibility that the growth is so fast that it goes toward parabolic rather than logarithmic.  So we may be seeing that uptick OR we may be WAY ahead of where we should be still (although $500 seems VERY firm at this point).

Where were we 30 days ago? Oh yes, $290, and just had crossed the ATH and everybody felt so good.

Now, $912 seems "cheap" to them who would like it go to the moon before Christmas.

There is still so much air in the bubble. Hard to know, which outcome I would like most, ch00 ch00 or orderly reversion to the trend.
6026  Economy / Speculation / Re: Automated posting on: December 09, 2013, 06:26:23 PM


Price abruptly flatlining (I'm talking about the stability around 1100-1200) is classic bubble behavior, scaled to where April is the "first sell off".  Now we are either in "back to normal" OR this time it REALLY is different!  And it could be you know because Bitcoin and the global economic and political environment in which it finds itself really is different.  

The gradually increasing Google trends is bullish http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=bitcoin&date=today%203-m&cmpt=q.  But there are other bearish forces which I'm sure you all know.

I'm seeing busting through $1300 as the trigger for a resumption in the mania.  This value will almost simultaneously crack the ATH, gold, and the recent BofA guidance.

I think that the BofA number is important, even though this number was created by pulling numbers out of BofA analyst asses and then adding them together.   But any veneer of math adds legitimacy in the minds of the collective investing public.  If Bitcoin breaks this guidance quickly, it embarrasses the traditional analysts and says that Bitcoin defies them.  And there is reason to think their analysis is flawed.  It is unknown if you can use prior historical charts of centrally managed growth (a company) with decentralized growth.  And if the rise takes longer than a week+, the "top" of the bubble starts to look too long for the rise as compared to classic flat-top bubbles.  In that case, this could be just the "1/3 to half-way there" hiccup that is often seen on bubble graphs.  

In general, you want to be IN an exponentially increasing commodity, and out for very short periods.  But if there was ANY time to take some profits (or sell now to buy back much lower), I think now is probably that time.  But having said that let me make it clear that I am < 10% fiat so some might say I am not following my own prescription.  BTW, this is not investment advice, I am not your investment advisor, do your own thinking.



Good Shit.

+1
6027  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 09, 2013, 04:10:47 PM
True. But his approach is still the most profitable one depending on how high you place the chance for total/near total failure of BTC. Don't tell me you're 100% sure BTC will make it?!

I would very much like to see his approach formulated in mathematical way, so that comparison to SSS could be made (the latter is a fully automatic strategy which in my opinion hedges against the total failure better, but cannot say for certain before gandhi provides the details of his)

Not sure I know what you want to see. Expected values of the two strategies compared? I'm only half in on the details of your SSS (I get the gist, I think: regular cash outs at likely inflection points, right Cheesy), but how do you calculate EV for your theory? Based on a simple price projection over time? If so, the comparison will fail:

a) ghandibit's method is based on the non-zero possibility of a (near) total failure of BTC (if I understand him right). As in: the chance to "rescue" at least a substantial part of your fiat profits if BTC ever really really tanks. So to compare his and your method, you both need to quantify the likelihood of prices over time, not just a single 'most-likely price'.

b) more generally, his approach is still not completely spelled out: his graph shows buying back at a loss, but in his explanation he calls it "crash insurance", so the idea is probably that there are indeed conditions where you either never buy back (BTC failure), or actually manage to buy back at a btc profit (a very deep price well). So he would need to specify those conditions before it can be formally modeled and compared.

Read my SSS, so that you can comment on it based on knowledge what it is.

Gandhi's model looks nice, but is currently expressed in a way that leaves everything to active portfolio manager. So it is not a strategy that 99% could effectively employ, since they are not portfolio managers.

I am interested because of interest. If he can express some of the mathematical principles, I could use this on my work. Even if it'd be too difficult for the 99%
6028  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: December 09, 2013, 03:56:20 PM

Yup, something I forgot to add: Chinese government hardly ever release a statement without adding all kinds of rhetorics and political indoctrination into it, now this statement is surprisingly free of that-had the government wanted to put a stop on Bitcoin trading, they would have painted it in much more negative ways, instead they merely warn of risks, but to the Chinese mindset, "government says it's risky=I can make big money", and "I can make big money"+"government says I am free to do so"="BUY BUY BUY!"


This so much.

Btc i guess needed a correction and that china news seemed like a good time for the west to sell out. Sadly luckily these btc are now in stronger hands, hands most likely in china....

So far china has got debt in exchange for goods. Now they get money. Trade balances equalized in both continents.
6029  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 09, 2013, 03:50:13 PM
True. But his approach is still the most profitable one depending on how high you place the chance for total/near total failure of BTC. Don't tell me you're 100% sure BTC will make it?!

I would very much like to see his approach formulated in mathematical way, so that comparison to SSS could be made (the latter is a fully automatic strategy which in my opinion hedges against the total failure better, but cannot say for certain before gandhi provides the details of his)
6030  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 09, 2013, 02:27:23 PM
Epic bull trap, or we're going back above ATH.

My prediction for the rest of the week: Rise with slow volume until Wed, then choppy downtrend to 600s, making it hard to see if a certain figure is a buying of selling opportunity.
6031  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 09, 2013, 02:24:56 PM
In this case you are losing coins, but your wealth is better protected. It's like paying "crash insurance". And if you do this always, someday you will win big when big crash comes. This isn't as easy to do as it seems in the pic.

The most important thing in low risk trading is buying back in with loss and this could be majority of your trades. Winning trades are just so much bigger that this doesn't just lower your risk of losing wealth but it also is better for your coin stash in the long run. (maybe)

Interesting approach. Is there any way that you could make a mathematical model about it, so that we could compare vs. the SSS plan?
6032  Economy / Economics / Re: rpietila public diary -- Episode II on: December 09, 2013, 01:50:39 PM
Anonymity not. Forcing the 3% to be transparent not. Risto this is seriously bad. This isn't some Monopoly game. I know you are having fun and hitting the sweet spot of your trading talent, but come on there is more at stake here.

The forces of evil must move slowly, mainly because:

- Their commanders must remain secret to continue commanding
- Their whole system is based on lies upon lies, which must be constantly covered and built upon ad ridiculium
- Their organization is the opposite of agile
- They must appear good/reasonable to the masses.

The 9/11 was a turningpoint, after which the astute people on the side of freedom saw that the U.S. will descend to a (world) police state. But see how little they have accomplished in 12 years! All the gains in spying power have come at the expense of greatly increased information (and later monetary) freedom to everyone.

Bitcoin is now going much faster than the dark side. Your threats may come to fruition in 5-10 years, do you not think that we can outpace them with new innovation in the meanwhile? I am eagerly awaiting the pictures of the new roofs that have been constructed merely a week from the typhoon! In the old system, taking the funds to the site of need would have taken 3 months alone. This is only one of the myriad of examples that is carried out by a tiny population (1.2M) of bitcoin users.

Yet - there are very few truly powerful thinkers/influencers/powercenters (ie. supernodes) in Bitcoin economy currently. The number is going to grow exponentially in the following months. This means a corresponding increase in our power, whereas the power of the dark side stays constant at best.

Many have asked, whether I am afraid to be so rich and yet speak so directly. Why should I be afraid? First of all, I don't come from a family of great wealth, and I know how it feels to live through an adolescence spending practically nothing. The wealth has come to me for a purpose, and I feel that this is the purpose now. Only twice have I sensed a grave personal danger coming from the current system. Both times I disclosed it in the forum that I was then contributing. The first time I got all my confiscated property back after 7.5 months. The second time I was locked in a mental ward for 6 weeks. But I am still alive, and grateful for the experiences.

Besides, Bible says that we should not fear the one who has the power to kill (Satan), but the one who can not only kill, but throw you in hell (God). I have chosen which one to fear. We should submit to authority but not fear it, (unless we do evil, because authorities are there to punish evil).
6033  Economy / Economics / Re: Distribution of bitcoin wealth by owner on: December 09, 2013, 11:21:55 AM
satashi and his friends should give their portion away to publics

second that. Once the hoarding chinese and fund managers in new york realize that a few persons hold as much as one third of all the coins, they will surely not trust it anymore.

It depends who you need to trust. In the current system we are forced to "trust" in the banks, which in turn are free to abuse that "trust" in any way they want at taxpayer's expense. Ever since Bitcoin started, Satoshi or anyone has had very little influence on the network's operation. Everybody has power in direct proportion to his willingness to spend the coins that he has. So Satoshi has no power unless he spends his coins, also you have no power if you don't have many or any coins.
6034  Economy / Economics / Re: Monthly average USD/bitcoin price & trend on: December 09, 2013, 11:17:50 AM
So I guess the "crash" has just moved us back to more "normal" growth at this point? 

I guess the good thing is that each rise shows us that we are on our way to those new highs.  It should give us some confidence of where Bitcoin is going anyways.

The problem is that the "crash" so far has not come even close the trendline. So either it was not a crash at all, or we will be visiting the trendline soon (down), or there is a new paradigm in bitcoin price (such as the one of growth spurts without deep crashes in 7/2010-6/2011).

It quacks like a crash. So my bets are hedged whether to visit the trend or continue higher in a sense that invalidates the trend.
6035  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 08, 2013, 11:45:10 PM
Breaking out of that triangle in a big way. Anyone want to place bets on recovery or bull trap?

You mean an actual bet? Yeah, sure. I feel we will go visit the exponential trendline.
what point are we currently at on that trendline? i forget where that thread is  Cheesy

December target at about $428.

Ofc it can go higher for an extended period of time. But aren't we kind of in a bear market now? Wink Ending the year at $500 sounds very good to me.


6036  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 08, 2013, 11:15:28 PM
Breaking out of that triangle in a big way. Anyone want to place bets on recovery or bull trap?

You mean an actual bet? Yeah, sure. I feel we will go visit the exponential trendline.
6037  Economy / Economics / Re: rpietila public diary -- Episode II on: December 08, 2013, 10:08:45 PM
It's been a busy week. Partly due to delays in the repatriation of my profits from bitcoin sales, partly due to my willingness to invest some of it back on favorable terms, partly due to the epic volatility which gives both daytrading and arbitraging opportunities. But now it's over and I have some 40 minutes to write about what actually matters.

Simply put: Bitcoin is going to transform the world. Last March we calculated the EV for one bitcoin to be in the thousands. It sounded far-fetched. Now the price has already crossed a thousand (redefined as $1/mBTC), and can be expected to hit $10 next year. The recent EV calculation gives values that can reach $1,000/mBTC, and that is the average, weighted value, which considers the chances that it goes to zero!

The issue is not, how big numbers we are able to choke out, but the mode (hard to find a good word) bitcoin operates. When it gains more users, its value grows, which interests speculators, etc. etc., there is a virtuous cycle going on, and it has resoundingly proven itself over these 5 years and several bubblepops. I don't think anything can stop this, and the logical conclusion is that it won't be stopped. Like leaven in the dough, it works until the whole of it is leavened.

Some technologies have made a near-universal adoption, such as bank accounts, mobile phones, and email. In Finland, you are practically required to have all of these in order to have any dealings with the government, for instance. Yet none of them (save bank account) is sanctioned by law. I believe Bitcoin will soon join this group of de facto used technologies. While leavening the system, it does away with fiat money (including debt), and we will have a quite interesting new world when all is completed.

Can this happen without the shedding of blood? There are many revolutions which have been violent, but the technological revolutions have in general been quite peaceful. When email was introduced, did people riot on the streets? Mass executions after mobile phones came? WWW brought all kinds of calamities? Not really. There is one trapped government in the world (USA), which cannot realistically see that its iron grip on mankind could be held indefinitely. They may attempt something, but it's futile. Their belief that they need to control the world is wrong. And if they try, they fail. (They control the biggest bitcoin address, though Wink )

I have been thinking these kinds of things. My threads are designed to be more dense (less cluttered) than the usual forum content. I have none whatsoever interest in arguing. Today it's been necessary to completely remove posts from one user who just cannot understand that the readers are not interested in anything that he is able to produce (considering the focus of this thread, elsewhere he's doing well and has saved my time by writing along the lines I would have posted). There is no law that requires me to explain. There are so many threads and you can start your own. There are 3 mock-threads about me, mentioned by name. If you feel better reading them, go for it.

My intention is to research, write about and promote Bitcoin Economics. To this end, I often use examples from my own life (they are good, because they were the way I got to think about a certain concept). There has been no way for me to continue writing about these matters but by divulging the number of bitcoins I have (approx. BTC10,000). If this puts me in the 50 bitcoin richest in the world, praise the Lord! Today my share of global exchange trading volume has been even significantly higher than the share of coins (~1%).

Bitcoin strips you naked. Everyone sees how much money you have. And at the same time it is impossible to know who has what. It is a very different world where we are entering. And I am liking it. Sure there are many haters to this openness, but I think the bulk of it is just a knee-jerk reaction to something new. Then many would like to have as many coins but don't. To them I would advice to read all my threads, and consider, how to get the optimal number which is still available, even though the megajackpot amounts are not available any more.
6038  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: Bitcoin Dealer Network Association (BDNA) on: December 08, 2013, 08:43:59 PM
I think your share pricing is too expensive.

You are expecting people to put down the equivalent of what about $50,000.

Perhaps to a Bitcoin-millionaire that is not a huge amount of money, but it will keep many people out of the network, who would be interested.

I am not sure you have provided anywhere enough information to warrant that kind of investment.

K

Thanks, when I wrote it, it was more like $10k...

Anyway - is there a way to make this work without the shares? I don't like them as a concept... The bail and the clever way of allocating it should be the centerpoint of this structure.


6039  Economy / Economics / Re: rpietila public diary -- Episode II on: December 08, 2013, 06:46:22 PM
As markup over elsewhere on BTC China decreases he can buy BTC there and sell BTC else where. It doesn't matter if he is buying at a higher or lower price than he sold on BTC China.

Yes, explained on the 3rd day of the last crash (funny to be reposted as now is also the 3rd day).
6040  Economy / Economics / Re: rpietila public diary -- Episode II on: December 08, 2013, 06:34:42 PM
When otoh I do disclose the transaction data, everyone is quiet.

How much do you make per hour? If it is a reasonable $25, your work should be worth $100 per hour to your employer considering overhead and such. Would you waste your employer's time talking to people who:

A. could understand if they took the time to read again, and then think some
B. (even worse) could not understand regardless.

When you think of the value of your time, certainly not. You could be fired for wasting your time like that.

Now, I did an allnighter. 12 hours trading session, in which I traded as follows:

My trading strategy is currently such that there are major fluctuations in relative prices in BTC China and Bitstamp. I chart them and analyze them and have both fiat and bitcoins in both exchanges. I sell in China (buy back BS) when it goes like 10% ahead. When it goes back to 0%, I reverse.
Trading report today 00:00 UTC+2 -> so far.

Sum trades      1590479   mBTC (about 1% of global volume during this period)
net position decrease     -148160   mBTC
      
Gain USD      164489   
Decrease in net pos. USD     -115417   
China credit      -26737   
Fees      -1581   
      
VOL USD   1147166   
PROFIT USD   20754   
% of volume   1.81 %   
      
Profit in mBTC   26304

The profit was $1,600 (about 2,100mBTC) per hour. Ergo my time is 16 times more expensive than yours, and I must manage it more efficiently.

I don't need anything from the trolls. They don't add anything to the discussion. There is no reason for me to even let the negative opinion be expressed, especially this thread is not a "public opinion about me" thread. Also many here don't have any reverence or even manners. Why am I doing it and pouring $1,000s per day to the forum? It is for the readers. You trolls are enemies of the readers, so you desire to be deleted.

If somebody does not understand the fact that even writing this clarification post cost me about $1,000 of my time, he is very much free to go and search for wisdom elsewhere.

Also I hope that nobody is offended if I delete a "good" post from the thread, just to keep it more easily readable for mobile devices (for example if your post was quoted in full, it will appear many times, and I cannot edit posts only delete them, so I delete the original) etc, or if I do not answer some question publicly or do not reply to a PM. (But feel free to be offended if you like, this is currently the only way to keep it working and it will stay this way.)
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