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6041  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Version 0.7.0 release candidate 1 ready for testing on: September 04, 2012, 02:40:56 AM
My node is listening on ipv4, ipv6 and a Tor.

So far I haven't seen any ipv6 or Tor connections.

Edit: I can connect to gmaxwell's hidden service. How would a new Tor-only node learn about hidden services without manually adding peers found via forum posts?
6042  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The transition to AnCap on: September 04, 2012, 12:07:58 AM
if thats really all that is to libertarianism, its a damn stupid idea. a large enough society cannot exist without violence. at some point, interests always collide. you can declare that senf-defense is justified, but very often there is really no specific line at which you can say its my survival thats threatened or just "what i want".
If you are unable to distinguish between self defense and aggression, and don't understand how to resolve differences of opinion without resorting to violence you should talk about these things with your therapist instead of projecting your limitations onto the world at large.
6043  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Preparation for the inevitable on: September 03, 2012, 11:58:50 PM
The ability to print new currency (or unbacked credit) at will only delays the inevitable as long as people can't flee to another currency. Mass acceptance of Bitcoin would bring the sooner than it otherwise would happen.
6044  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Preparation for the inevitable on: September 03, 2012, 11:35:00 PM
If, for example, the US government can no longer entice people to its military machine via worthless US dollars, people will not enter its military machine and the US will get very angry. The only way for bitcoin or any cryptocurrency to really succeed is to eventually start removing significant value from existing fiat currencies to itself. It will cause inflation above and beyond standard inflation and people will stop wanting the currency. It is a clear and present threat to the establishment.
Military spending is bad, but it's not what's making fiscal sanity impossible - it's transfer payments, especially transfer payments to retired public sector workers.

Nearly all pension funds are insolvent because they promised benefits which required mathematially-impossible returns to fund. The degree of insolvency seems to be directly proportional to the policial clout the constituency of these funds represents - California, Illinois, UAW, etc. The stock market is being kept propped up by unbacked credit emissions to delay the time at which these funds must confess that they won't be able to pay out what was promised.
6045  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Preparation for the inevitable on: September 03, 2012, 08:17:50 PM
It wouldn't hurt to ask Bitcoin websites, especially those with registered with a .com TLD, for Tor hidden service support.
6046  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Preparation for the inevitable on: September 03, 2012, 07:32:52 PM
Who said anything about one government acting alone? Just take a look at what happened to Assange and you will see that in the world today when something threatens even just one nation state (the US in this case), they can exert very heavy diplomatic pressure to ensure that it is a coordinated shutdown takes place (and in this case, many governments will be acting in their own interest, together). Make no mistake about it, when it happens it will be come without warning and be so swift that the market will not even have time to react. It's clear that there are other safehavens in the world that might become a haven for such businesses to continue, but at the moment, the businesses are simply not there. They are exposed in a huge way simply by residing in developed countries with interests in keeping trade in their own currencies. At the least this means a bottoming of the price and stagnation until these businesss can relocate to setup elsewhere. My question revolves on how to avoid such a scenario by creating a resilient infrastructure now.
If you're worried about it start competing services in one of those safe haven countries. You'll either encourage the current market leaders to diversify their risk similarly or else they won't and you'll end up with all their business.
6047  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Preparation for the inevitable on: September 03, 2012, 07:15:32 PM
If the amount of people using bitcoin continues to go up as it has along with corresponding increase in services, at some point it will become an honest threat to the sovereignty of the state. At this point, the states (the powerful ones anyway) will have no choice but to intervene and shut down all of the services (mtgox, glbse, bitinstant, this forum etc) that users depend on in order to facilitate exchange within and between currencies. My question is: Is it possible for this decentralized currency to build out an equally robust and decentralized service infrastructure? If not, what is the contingency plan for when this happens?
One government acting alone could not take down all the websites, since they could just be moved to other countries and/or run as Tor hidden services.

The US government could make it difficult or impossible for companies like Mt Gox, BitInstant, and BitPay to operate with USD bank accounts but that wouldn't neecessarily mean the end of those services - there is more than one currency in the world. An adverse legal climate in the US might only have the effect of making those services devote more of their efforts towards expanding other markets like Europe, China, Japan, India, Brazil, etc.
6048  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The transition to AnCap on: September 03, 2012, 04:36:24 PM
So dissolving of USSR was not a big deal, but formality.
This is where you're missing the big picture.

The dissolving was incredibly signifigant because that's the means by which the rulers dumped the dependent class. The rulers discovered that totalitarian central planning is not an effective method of extracting wealth from the population so they abandoned it for a more efficient (for them) system, and most importantly they defaulted on the promises made to retirees, which were unaffordable even if the rulers cared about paying.

It's a lesson that apparently not many government dependents in the West have learned from.
6049  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: pirate payments list -- accounts paid: 23/459 on: September 03, 2012, 01:34:31 AM
Everything is recoverable.  It all depends on how far you want to take it.
A stone does not have an unlimited amount of blood to be squeezed out of it.
6050  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: pirate payments list -- accounts paid: 23/459 on: September 03, 2012, 01:17:36 AM
How much do private investigators cost anyway ?

Pretty damn cheap, compared to the amount of debt that Pirate is withholding on.
But how much of that debt is recoverable?
6051  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The transition to AnCap on: September 03, 2012, 12:13:51 AM
If the government would cooperate in it's dismantling, that would be great, but we know that's not going to happen.
That's more or less what happened in the former USSR. When the government realized that the system was going to fail they looted what was left and then voted to disband.
6052  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Survey: gauging community opinion regarding criminal transactions on: September 02, 2012, 08:56:11 PM
I'm aware it has a significant amount of momentum and there is a possibility of a paradigm shift as a result. However, most organizations at the moment, are at the mercy of their banks, which are in turn (supposedly) at the mercy of the policy and legislations. I personally believe the majority of corporations that use a bank, and have a legal team and legitimately declare their money and tax will not accept Bitcoin without some form of legislation change. I have no evidence to backup this claim, although the EFF is an example instance. So there maybe a paradigm shift, but for large scale adoption (e.g. your local tesco's accepting it) there's going to have to be a legislation change.

It's definitely possible that a potential paradigm shift created by Bitcoin could lead to a change in legislation, which could then lead to larger scale adoption. But that would still require a legislation change, which I personally believe should be informed by academic research. Most large corporations should (an typically do) do what the law says and the law says very little about Bitcoin, so I believe they will do very little about it.
According to at least one study the fastest growing economy in the world operates outsides the bounds of legislation http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2011/10/28/black_market_global_economy?page=full so the question remains, how do we know that the legislators, policy makers, and corporations which are currently dominant will continue to remain relevant in the future?

You appear to be operating under the assumption that these organizations will be able to forever act as gatekeepers but it could also be the case that they will be forced either to adapt to a new paradigm or else cease to exist.

Things may or not play out that way, but you appear to be dismissing that possibility entirely.
6053  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Survey: gauging community opinion regarding criminal transactions on: September 02, 2012, 08:20:29 PM
Making Bitcoin accepted by legislation and policy makers (and it therefore being legislated etc.) is hugely relevant to Bitcoin users.
I would call that begging the question.

Bitcoin has achieved a signifigant amount of momentum without any recognition from legislators and policy makers, and I am unaware of any evidence that their participation is required to continue Bitcoin's present trajectory. There is a distinct possibility that Bitcoin represents a paragigm shift which renders those individuals you are referring to and their acceptance irrelevant in the same way that online publishing made old media business models irrelevant.
6054  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Survey: gauging community opinion regarding criminal transactions on: September 02, 2012, 06:56:27 PM
Yup, I agree. Also, I think it's worth mentioning, in an ideal world, a lot of legislation and policy making should be made based on academic research, which is why so much money is invested. Personally, I believe academic research into Bitcoin is a "must" for it to be accepted as a currency.

A "must"?  Bitcoin is already accepted as a currency!  The services of normative academia are not required.

So in your 'ideal world', you are the de facto ruling class. Nice.
Another casuality of passive grammar.

The OP said academic research into Bitcoin is a must for it to be accepted as a currency but neglected to mention who he was talking about.

Who won't accept Bitcoin as a currency without academic research, and why is their acceptance relevent to Bitcoin users?
6055  Other / Meta / Re: "Long-term offers" - gonna have to tackle this 1 eventually on: September 02, 2012, 04:02:53 PM
I know, I know, Congress is supposed to make no law abridging freedom of speech. I worry that won't stop the SEC from seizing the bitcointalk.org domain name for promoting unlicensed securities.

I think a separate top-level domain for everything under the Marketplace heading would be the right thing to do.
.onion would be a good choice of TLD.
6056  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: GPG4win, My Kleopatra is broken, I need to export my keys for a reinstall on: September 02, 2012, 02:55:31 PM
No Kleo works with OpenPGP certs also.

What does it do then that GPA doesn't?
6057  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: GPG4win, My Kleopatra is broken, I need to export my keys for a reinstall on: September 02, 2012, 02:48:19 PM
So, I can use all of my GPG stuff, Y'know signing etc, But the problem is that Kleopatra just flags me an error and doesnt load!
I've heard alot of mumbo jumbo about "DONT TOUCH IT!, Export your private keys before even ATTEMPTING to fix kleo"

So im here wondering how the Fk i export all my keys to a file, Uninstall kleo, Reinstall her, And import the keys asif i never lost them.

Ultimately what i need, Is Kleopatra (a peice of GPG4Win) to be functional, Without me loosing my keys, Please help me.
I thought Kleopatra is just for X509 certificates? I've always thought most people don't even need it.
6058  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Survey: gauging community opinion regarding criminal transactions on: September 01, 2012, 07:28:04 PM
I suggest you explore the question with more granularity. Some people use Bitcoins for "criminal" transactions because they feel that particular laws are unjust, invasive, abusive or otherwise inappropriate.

You may find a difference in the percentage of people who are opposed to the use of Bitcoins to facilitate theft vs the percentage who are opposed to the use of Bitcoins to allow expats to send remittances to their family in countries the US government does not permit trade with, or the use of Bitcoins to avoid legal prohibitions of online gambling.
6059  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Welcome Rachel - BitInstant's newest team member on: September 01, 2012, 02:04:40 AM
Somehow I knew, based on the title alone, what was going to happen in this thread.

John Gabriel's G.I.F.T. strikes again.
6060  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [Idea] Investment Rating Service on: August 31, 2012, 11:37:06 PM
Would it be unbiased if the people paying for the rating are the ones getting the rating? But I am not sure how else to keep it going, unless you can get enough donations?
I think to get the incentives right the traders should pay for the auditing, not the companies being rated.
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