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6041  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [vSLICE] Token Sale is LIVE NOW (Already more than $2M+ contributed) on: December 06, 2016, 02:12:10 AM
Is it true its not even provably fair and then your not coders?

We are one of the few live, working gambling Dapps built as an Ethereum Smart Contract.

How could we launch and run a live working Dapp if we are not coders ? It makes no sense.

Don't listen to just one person in some random post.
Go to google and look for other Ethereum gambling Smart Contracts.

We are one of the only working, live Ethereum Dapps.

In regards to other comments about the code being buggy, I suggest you read this medium post:
https://medium.com/@vdiceio/vdice-post-ico-plan-83b48eb914dd#.ilrm29z9t

We are preparing to deploy the new game contract code.
It is based on our new proofs for bet verification. We will have the new contracts deployed early next week.

The code has been ready for some time.
We have just been waiting for the Ethereum network and Gas limits to normalize, after recent events.

Most in the Ethereum space would know that, due to the spam attacks that started on the network a few months ago, we were unable to deploy this code.

That is because it requires 3m gas to deploy on the network.
And the gas limit was set artificially lower than that for the longest time, to mitigate the spam attacks.

Anyway, as of this week current GAS limits on the network have normalized over 3m.
The network and miners are responding well to the recent hardforks.

So we’ve scheduled a bunch of upgrades and new code deployment early next week.

And we look forward to everyone trying out the updated betting contracts.
It is a much faster and more reliable betting experience.

This has been explained many times.

Basically, we have one troll spreading lies and misinformation.
We suspect he works for a competitor, but we cannot be certain.

Also, he has already been chased out of other forums like r/ethereum.

Everyone else loves our product. Especially Ethereum people.
How do you think we attracted so many investors and so much money?

So who is doing your coding, is it you? What languages do you speak, when can we see the code to make sure its truly provable fair. Should we expect that shortly?

I do the social media. There are our coders, working most closely with Oraclize and the Peter Vessenes' team.

The code is public, as is all our documentation. It has been since the beginning.
Just go to the crowdsale site, you will see everything there.

This is Ethereum / Public blockchain ecosystem. Everything is always open-source, unless you're Coinbase  Wink

Also, this thread is for the vSlice token. For all other matter please refer to this thread:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1633105.new#new

We'd appreciate anything not related to the vSlice token be left in that thread.

How do we know that your coders are capable of pulling this off?

Thank you vDice for explaining it again, I was wondering about the samething. I hope you guys make it up to all the expectations. I wonder if the ethereum falling price is going to affect this project in any way.

6042  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Synereo - Earn Money Using Social Media on: December 06, 2016, 02:10:39 AM
My issue with Synereo is that they want to be everything which is not possible, before it was discentalised social platform now Smart contract platform. The current infighting among their developers is another issue to deal with. They need to start walking the talk

Synereo is very ambitious project and the fight within the dev team was a shocker to all investors and people who followed Synereo closely. I think they need to either develop a social media platform or a smart contract platform. One at a time and build from there.
6043  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: How to sell stuffs online and earn Bitcoin? on: December 05, 2016, 05:45:14 PM
It will take years before the general public will start seeing bitcoins as
money which can be used for daily transactions mainly because it does not have a fixed price/value.

I totally agree with you mate, but with your statement of it does not have fixed price or value, I guess even fiat currencies
does not have fixed value. And this will make a big or huge change to the economy if crypto currencies will be used globally especially the
market on selling things with people.
6044  Economy / Economics / Re: What will happen if we use a one currency only? on: December 05, 2016, 05:37:01 PM
[Edited to make it more understandable question]
What if all nation use only a one currency or one global currency?, What will happen to our world?,
What is the effect of every nation's or every country economy?, It can make people's unite each other?Any opinion. Cheesy

Using 1 currency would unite the world but the drawbacks could be we still have
people at the top holding all the power.  We would have no way to compete with the powers at the top this way it seems. 
I think its better we have multiple cryptos but maybe BTC at 70% dominance.

Maybe this is a good idea, where there is only one on top who will make things equal though we are in different country.
This will not be a big deal if everyone will be united with things under bitcoin as long as it is decentralized management.
6045  Economy / Marketplace / Re: What type of products you would like to buy with Bitcoins? on: December 05, 2016, 05:30:02 PM
So far I have not bought anything online with bitcoin but If there will be a
 cloth store that accepts Bitcoin payment than I would like to buy cloths from that store,
but this store should be in my country or if it is in other country than delivery should be fast.


I guess there is now a store offering or selling cloth and in bitcoin payment. The bitcoin store I guess, they are here also in the forum making and advertising their product.
But for me if I am going to spend bitcoin here I guess, not product but service is what I need. Like making designs and I will pay for them afterwards.
6046  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Dark marketplaces? on: December 05, 2016, 05:22:51 PM
Lots of the markets on there are scams. I have lost around $500-$600 being scammed of BTC on my old wallet.
But, if you want to make lots of sales the Deep Web is the place to go. Good Luck!

That's why I don't want to visit dark market places and deep web anymore.
I know the risk for having some deals there and it is not guaranteed that the person you are dealing with there is a
legit person and sincere to have a nice deal with you. I guess you don't need to go to deep web if you want to make a lot of sales,
 you can just sell them anyway with social medias.


Social media is one of the best selling ways you can have to deal with and like this forum here.
In dark web you gonna risk too much as like above mentioned that he lost almost $600 because of scammed, you do not know if it is really legit
or not. Making and earning money from dark web will make you money at risk totally.
6047  Economy / Marketplace / Re: How do you know when a site tries to scam you? on: December 05, 2016, 05:20:55 PM
I am writing about the sites where you have to make a deposit before buy and the site offers to act as a MM in deals.

How could I know when they are trying to scam me? In general, how do I know if a MM site is trusted?
Search on  the web about the site you are joining,ask those who are already on that site for feedbacks.
if you perform this two im pretty sure you will not get scammed by any hyip ,ponzi site.


Yes, the most effective way to know if that is a scam is always search on the web the background of that site you going to join.
I guess it must be a must if you really joining into something new, know their backgrounds, the feedbacks so you will be noticed.
6048  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Do you know other big forums where can i sell digital goods ? on: December 05, 2016, 05:18:59 PM
actuallt Facebook/twitter/pinterest/etc is the best way for sell goods.
many of peoples use them for sell their goods.i have read your post,you said that you
dont like Facebook/twitter etc social media.what kind of forums do you wnt ?

yes it is,,facebook is the best  place to sell goods..

Better use the said social media so it would help you to sell the item you are intended to sell. Facebook and twitter is one of the most hottest site where you can access to many people around the world.
But then you can also try this forum in GOODs SECTION it might help you so.
6049  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Gradma knows about bitcoin. on: December 05, 2016, 05:07:44 PM
So how old is the "older generation"? I'm 74, and I've just hit middle age, when do I join this older generation? Smiley
My father is over 80 and I've given up on trying to teach him how to operate Windows. Bitcoin is completely beyond his cognitive abilities.
Glad to see there are mentally young old timers with us, keep it up mate!

maybe its the ages is over than 70 years, we need to teach with slowly as they can't understand if we teach with fast, i think their action become to slow to get the information that come to them but its not for all old people, sometimes the old people can understand with fast too. but its good for grandma that she can understand about bitcoin.

Old people are least interested in bitcoins and other emerging technologies.They do not have much interest in the upcoming technologies and also they do not have the mindset to absorb such innovations.
They are happy to stick with their old ideas and that perhaps best for them.
6050  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: how can i secure tx? on: December 04, 2016, 06:31:08 PM
There is no other way but to use escrow to ensure that your goods will be delivered to you. Since you are just a newbie, they will be wary making transactions to you. So other party will probably require an escrow anyway.

Very risky indeed unless he knows the person personally.Escrow is the best option here, since you are dealing with totally anonymous person.Don't be another victim of scam, be wary and cautious every time you made transaction.

Many people are making tricky ways to get money without working it like dealing with people and run away afterwards.
Unless you use PAYPAL where you can get back your money if you tell them that you did not get the service or item you need to have.
6051  Economy / Economics / Re: If bitcoin price is $10.000, will fiat be worthless? on: December 04, 2016, 06:25:35 PM
Fiat will never be worthless, even when bitcoin price reaches $10k still fiat will be used, because of the transaction time of bitcoin network, it will never be used for day to day life.

I have similar opinion. I feel bitcoin will remain as an asset, investment or trading commodity and it will not replace fiat currencies even if bitcoin reaches 10,000$ mark value. More people will get into bitcoin bandwagon if it appreciates to 10,000$ levels and it will be good for all the bitcoin early adopters. And yes, reaching 10,000$ is possible in future.
6052  Other / Off-topic / Re: How much did you spent in the internet using bitcoin? on: December 04, 2016, 06:21:59 PM
I tend to hold bitcoin rather than spending them mostly but if i need something online i try to find services which accept bitcoin directly or if they don't accept bitcoin payments i load bitcoin on debit cards linked to paypal and buy anything i want without problem.

Its risky though to hold bitcoins for a long period of time. If you are not much of a risk taker and don't have time to research, then hold tight your bitcoins. Otherwise try investing and get some profit from them.
6053  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: If you were a developer. What would you do to make money? on: December 04, 2016, 06:15:17 PM
Question:

If you were a developer and you were able to develop anything, what do you think is the easiest way to make money?

Some ideas:
-Altcoin exchange
-Develop a cryptocurrency
-Bitcoin/altcoin marketplace

I am a developer and I need to start making extra money to pay medical expenses so I would appreciate your help.

You can make money by all the three ideas you have stated. But you have to make it stand out from the crowd. The truth is there is enough of altcoins and crypto exchanges. If you have a plan to make a better one with cool features then develop it else go work with an existing project or get a real job!
6054  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: How resistant is Monero against blockchain analysing? on: December 04, 2016, 06:10:10 PM
Monero promises high resistance against blockchain analysing.

Have you ever met with a tool that could break this resistance?

It does not have to have 100% success rate, I just would like to know how far the attempts could get.

You can more or less work this out for yourself.  Assuming no vulnerabilities in the implementation, and assuming no such things like compromised machines, or compromised internet connection (which have nothing to do with the crypto currency protocol itself), here's the gist:

You have to assume fractional "real world" knowledge about certain transactions.  That is, you can know some stuff, like Joe went to Mary's coffee shop and paid his coffee with transaction X.   Joe withdrew coins from an exchange with transaction Y.  And so on.

The aim of chain analysis is to use this partial information of known transaction/person links, and to complete it using the block chain itself.  Here we assume that we DON'T use other information, like IP addresses, compromised computers and so on.

The problem with transparant chains like bitcoin is that this partial information is propagated, because we can follow transaction to transaction ; as such, we can learn that Joe was also involved in several other transactions, by looking at the combination of his coins and his change addresses.

A solution to this is to use mixers.  In bitcoin, you have to take the initiative with others, in DASH, you have to take the initiative but it is then done by master nodes, and in monero, it is done automatically by selecting random addresses on the chain. 

Mixing makes the propagation of the partial information ambiguous, but not totally void.  At each mixing stage, you "dilute" your partial knowledge some more.

Now, the big difference between bitcoin and DASH on one hand, and monero on the other, is that mixing is "far and in between" with the first two (because requiring a voluntary act, and a limited set of participants.  While monero does a kind of "mixing" at EVERY transaction, and selects the participants *randomly*.  (strictly speaking, it isn't mixing ; but concerning the propagation of partial knowledge, the ring signature in monero and a mixer, behaves somewhat similar).

Monero has one further advantage: the ambiguity of which transaction actually happened.  In a mixer, all incoming coins are really spend, and appear in the outgoing channels.  With monero, the incoming coins are not necessarily spend.  They can appear several times, and you don't know WHICH "mixing transaction" actually propagated them.  It looks like multiple spending of the same coin in monero, but only one is "real", though you don't know which one.

All this means that with monero, you need much more "partial knowledge" in order to "complete the trace" than with bitcoin or DASH.  But of course, from a certain amount of partial knowledge, chain analysis becomes moot: if you know already ALMOST everything, then the little it can buy you is not so important.  Chain analysis is interesting when only a little bit of knowledge can learn you a lot.

If I have to know 90% of Joe's transactions before the monero chain tells me the 10% that remains, that's much less interesting than when with 10% of Joe's transactions and the bitcoin block chain, I can find out the remaining 90%.



Very interesting to read and the way you explained it is outstanding. I think you would prefer to you Monero for privacy than using DASH or Bitcoin. Would your prefer Zcash? what do you have to say about Zcash vs Monero? I know it's out of topic but if you could state your views, it would help a lot.
6055  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: We need to STOP The Billion coin! on: December 04, 2016, 06:07:35 PM

They only had internal exchange,and facebook group exchange,but  it's impossible for this coin to get into popular crypto currency exchange like Poloniex,it will imediately turn down,because of the absemce of block explorer and source code,that why people need to hype this coin so they can dispose their stakes.

You are right. Poloniex and other well established exchanges will not accept to list scam coins like TBC and onecoin. At least a coin should a block explorer and a source code. Else it is not even a coin!

6056  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Altcoins in Gambling on: December 04, 2016, 06:04:14 PM
Bitcoin Forum > Alternate cryptocurrencies > Altcoin Discussion > Post reply ( Re: Altcoins in Gambling )

I know of Lisks Dice but I don't know how successful the project is and currently, there is VDice ICO on going and plan to use Ethereum only for their platform, it will be interesting to see how these Altcoins perform in the land of unknown

Most of the Alt coins try to develop a good gambling ecosystem around them in order to attract gamblers to gamble and make those Alt coins famous. This is what happen to Bitcoin. Bitcoin was used mainly to gamble in the beginning. Alt coins expect to get the same traction with gambling. We will have to wait and see how Vdice will play out for ethereum.

6057  Other / Off-topic / Re: How much did you spent in the internet using bitcoin? on: December 04, 2016, 01:56:31 PM
Spending Bitcoin is not a good idea according to me. Be it online or locally. I know that storing Bitcoin is against the idea of Bitcoin but storing Bitcoin is the best decision you can take in your lifetime.

I have started earning Bitcoin back in 2015 and at today's date I am sitting on more than 50% profit by just holding my Bitcoin. Even though I have traded in the market and grown it but my Bitcoin value has increased manifold just by holding it. So do not spend your Bitcoins instead hold on to it for another 5 years to see the real magic of bitcoin.


Saving and holding your bitcoin has rewarded many users and saved they from many scams as well. But look at some Altcoins such as
ETH, XMR, etc. If you could have invested into them at the beginning, you could have got even more returns.
6058  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Thoughts on Zcash? on: December 04, 2016, 01:55:20 PM
I think ZCash may take its place in the top 10. It provides innovation, however, this is an ongoing evolving process. There is no final answer, and we keep flowing our assets into whatever the current medium of exchange is most valued. A lot of the most heavily vetted issues are integrated into other coin systems, and we are seeing the field evolve overall, which I believe is the final goal before we establish a true cryptocurrency for the masses.

As it sits I think we are ALL on the bleedin edge of developing a solution to the big-brother issue which stems from a cashless society, and we are working hard to ensure private and safe transactions for the world. You gotta figure, this will be the currency system for frigging Mars and beyond. Visa, Mastercard, Amex, paypal, they can all be hacked, but a decentralized blockchain is nearly impervious and we are overcoming the ultimate roadblocks to instant safe worldwide transactions.



There will be issues but I think Zacash will be able to handle it.
Blockchain is the future and its good to see that decentralized blockchain is better at providing security than Visa, Mastercard, Amex, etc as blockchains have not been hacked yet.

6059  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Zdash Private Secure Transactions [bounties][Launched] on: December 04, 2016, 01:52:17 PM

 ive invested into the ebitz ico however the price keeps increasing and my balance keeps decreasing i assumed with an ico that your balance was locked at the amount recieved at the time you invested at this rate by the time the coin launches i will be left with no coins losing about 50 ebitz a day off my balance however im not really sure how ico's work maybe this is normal


Ops! I hope you haven't invested a big sum of money into ebitz. Lots of accusations are popping up every day against ebitz. About your balance decreasing and price increasing is very common thing to see in an ICO which has limited number of coins, the more people invest into a coin, the price will keep going up and if you don't invest more, your number of coins will decrease. It's basic supply and demand.
6060  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] BITSANE.COM Cryptocurrency Exchange Platform Is Now Live on: December 04, 2016, 01:46:44 PM
Promising coins that are probably not yet in exchanges or still on process or are still having ongoing ICOs are Ark, Komodo, Incent, Wings DAO, Chronobank, vDice, Golem, ICONOMI and maybe some few others I forgot to mention. These projects have good support community that can make real noise.

We will definitely continue adding new and popular crypto currencies in the nearest future.
Thats good and it nice to hear that from you cos it will be good for the business
  Thats right, Adding new and promising coins is a good strategy and will make a noise to the big time traders and thats the time many traders go and transfer bitsane. Im hopping that you will add additional new coins in the future

The more the coins you add, the better it will be for Bitsane to become more popular in short span of time. There is a lot of competition between exchanges and adding New coins first can also be beneficial to permote Bitsane.
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