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6061  Other / Meta / Re: Open appreciation, achievement of Hero rank, heading to legendary. on: December 24, 2019, 06:57:36 AM
Maybe someone from the Indonesian local board, He is a pandukelana
Agree with you, sir. He is one of the most valuable members with big dedication and contribution.


Yes, he is another new guy, @philipma1957. A very proper member who deserves to reach 1000 Merits.


Congratulations @CryptopreneurBrainboss, you finally have more than 1000 Merits.  Smiley   
6062  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Purposes to play gambling, except being rich on: December 24, 2019, 06:38:06 AM
Another thread discussing about the purpose of gambling. ~snip~
I've already used the "search feature", and I didn't find out the same poll like this one. If you find out a poll that was discussing the same thing, just post the link here and I will lock this poll directly. Remember this is a poll, not a common thread. However, I am always open to everyone that wants to give suggestion or feedback. Thank you to remind me about it.
6063  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Purposes to play gambling, except being rich on: December 24, 2019, 03:12:58 AM
Space for updating information or announcement!
6064  Economy / Gambling discussion / Purposes to play gambling, except being rich on: December 24, 2019, 03:11:41 AM
I'm just curious about what people think about their main purposes to play gambling. Usually, we only know that people play gambling because they expect to be rich (earn money). Are there any other common purposes of a gambler why he/she plays gambling daily? Let me know what your purposes are, mate. Thanks
6065  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Overview ICO di tahun 2019 [Berdasarkan data icobench] on: December 24, 2019, 02:28:52 AM
~snip~ entah kenapa pihak ICObench tidak mengelompokkan keduanya dengan lebih spesifik lagi (biar tidak ada statistik yang saling tumpang tindih).
Yup, saya juga tidak habis pikir ternyata ada data yang tumpang tindih. Padahal jelas-jelas judul pagenya pembahasan analisa market ICO. Ini bisa disampaikan ke timnya untuk menjadi bahan evaluasi.

~snip~ Berarti untuk menjaga kestabilan harga, apakah tim harus ikut campur tangan didalam market ??
Tapi sepertinya sulit untuk menghindari campur tangan tim proyeknya Om. Entah itu campur tangan secara lagsung, maupun tidak langsung. Karena saya yakin timnya juga ingin kalo token/koin nya punya progress yang baik di market.

Buyback juga bisa dibilang manipulasi market, token burn juga bisa dibilang manipulasi. Pemanfaatan market maker untuk menjaga agar spread tidak besar juga bisa dibilang manipulasi.
Bisa dibilang manipulasi, bisa juga dibilang antisipasi Om. Khusus untuk buyback dan token burn, biasanya diumumkan ke publik jauh2 hari. Jadi tidak tiba2 diadakan untuk menyiasati harga.  

~snip~ harusnya kan semakin supply sedikit bisa membantu harga meningkat, tapi itu juga tentu tergantung dari progress projek tersebut sih.
Bukan hanya tergantung progress proyek Om, tapi juga tergantung minat investor atau orang2 yang ingin membeli. Supply dikit juga percuma kalo sepi peminat, ujung2nya didelisting dari market dan jadi dead coin/token. he

~snip~ banyak dugaan yang miring ternyata dari token LEO ini,ane baru tahu juga tapi entah mana yang benar
Pastikan dulu Om. Kalo baru dugaan mungkin saja bisa salah. Kadang ada kompetitor yang tidak suka terus bikin FUDs atau orang-orang yang merasa dirugikan dari keberadaan token tersebut. 
6066  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin on 3rd January? on: December 24, 2019, 01:47:39 AM
So I have come across this website --> https://21e8.com/  and i started reading about it.
The website cannot be accessed, do you know what's wrong in it? Has the website shot down?
The link to the article also cannot be opened. This is confusing, mate. how we can know that you get valid news.  Huh

It could be just another hype scheme, though the possibilities are still there. 21e8 could just have been generated by pure chance and people overly hyped such phenomena, that Desantis took advantage of.
I agree with you. It is likely another hype scheme. Don't expect anything from this news. As many people dream of a Bitcoin bullish in 2020, we will see many hype scheme. Be careful, don't hurry to conclude random news.  
6067  Other / Meta / Re: Open appreciation, achievement of Hero rank, heading to legendary. on: December 24, 2019, 01:10:35 AM
I guess you will be there, reach 1000 Merits today. Since your current Merit is 990, I think it will be not hard to earn 10 Merits for you. Anyway, you did many awesome works on your great journey. Besides a good poster, you also have sent many sMerit to appreciate others. Your contribution and dedication clearly show that you absolutely deserve this achievement. Congratulations, mate!


+2, now you only need 8 Merits.  Smiley
6068  Economy / Speculation / Re: Why Bitcoin prices dropped so low a few days ago؟ on: December 23, 2019, 11:56:51 PM
Because people sold bitcoin. And because of the law of supply and demand, the price dropped.
People trade their Bitcoin every day, right? Both in bearish and bullish, people sell their Bitcoins. We must find something unusual that may cause a decline. For example, people doubt about halving, then they sell Bitcoins or they need much money for Christmas/new year/long holidays. Full-time traders may sell many of their Bitcoins because of those reasons.  

And because of the law of supply and demand, the price dropped.
Need more specific thing, I guess.

Don't try to make theories
I assume most people have no intention to make own theories. They just try to guess the reasons even if they don't really know about it.  Cheesy
6069  Other / Meta / Re: FREE MERIT COME FAST BEFORE I RUN OUT [Happy Holidays] on: December 23, 2019, 02:29:14 PM
~snip~ say something nice about any other forum member

I think I will appreciate some members.

>Best bounty managers: Hhampuz, yahoo62278, Coolcryptovator
>Best Indonesian members: dbshck, sapta, roycilik, pandukelana2712, joniboini, abhiseshakana, Husna QA, mu_enrico
>Best Merit distributors: LoyceV, dbshck, DdmrDdmr  


I am sorry to mention many members. There are too many good members.  Smiley
6070  Economy / Reputation / Re: [Motivation BITCOIN4X] From Newbi To Senior Member - Self Made !!! on: December 23, 2019, 05:06:44 AM
~snip~ And now I am on the way to senior member after so long trying, struggling, and continuing to improve quality so that at the moment I only need 12 more merit to reach my new rank. ~snip~
Congratulations, bro. You've already reached Senior rank. Now, you can edit some words on your thread above.  Wink  

Anyway, It's so cool, bro. Not all members can change their mindset and find out the right way as you. Most of them gave up and quitted after following some bounties and got nothing. To be honest, I was ever in that situation. Even I ever think to quit because I assume no chance to rank up with new strict rules. Luckily, someone motivated me and showed me the right way. Then, I improved many things, changed my habit, and committed to dedicate my time to BTT forum.

Well, I hope someday I can also write my story as yours. I am still struggling to reach the next rank. I know that I am nothing without supports from everyone, especially dbshck, Indonesian DT, and all Indonesian members. Thanks, everyone!!


Everyone has the same chance to improve their ranks. Just give your positive contribution and dedication to Forum, and they will appreciate you.

>Contribution: make quality posts, help others, motivate/inspire others, report scammers/spammers, etc
>Dedication: care and loyal to the forum, obey the regulation, follow forum's events, etc

 Smiley Cheers up!!
6071  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Overview ICO di tahun 2019 [Berdasarkan data icobench] on: December 23, 2019, 02:52:40 AM
~snip~ untuk penjualan Leo Token ini masuk ke kategori IEO atau ICO ya ??



Memang agak membingungkan keterangan terkait kategori penjualan token Leo ini di icobench. Ada yang ditulis ICO, ada juga yang ditulis IEO. Akan tetapi berdasarkan beberapa sumber yang sudah saya baca, kategorinya termasuk ke IEO. Apalagi penjualannya kan jelas ada di Bitfinex Launchpad. Tambahan, untuk list proyek, Leo masuk di kategori IEO : https://icobench.com/ieo.

Kalo Leo ini digolongkan ke dalam IEO, berarti total dana terkumpul dari proyek2 ICO di bulan Mei menjadi $0.2B kan, Om? Dan jika ini valid, berarti dari Januari hingga November, jumlah dana yang terkumpul per masing-masing bulannya maksimal hanya $0.4B. Jumlah yang jauh lebih kecil dibanding rata-rata dana terkumpul perbulannya di tahun 2018.   


Sumber gambar: https://icobench.com/ico/bitfinex
6072  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Christmas Merits Giveaway!!! on: December 23, 2019, 02:24:01 AM
Here is mine: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5205841.msg53235781#msg53235781


Happy Monday everyone.  Smiley
6073  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Altcoins delist and Bitcoin only on: December 22, 2019, 11:59:23 PM
Delist For most altcoin garbage is necessary because their innovations are useless
I agree with the statement about delisting "garbage" altcoins. However, they also delist all altcoins, including ETH. In my personal opinion, ETH is not one of these garbages.

This might indicate if Coinfloor really is improving their criteria and system including to only considers BTC as the only proven cryptocurrency, especially in terms of transactions and progress in the market.
However, is this only because of the reason (only proven crypto)? Or, Does Coinfloor have a certain strategy to encounter this market condition right now?
6074  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Overview ICO di tahun 2019 [Berdasarkan data icobench] on: December 22, 2019, 01:43:12 PM
Ane pribadi menganggap tahunnya ICO booming udah selesai gan. Ga begitu mengagetkan karena pasar juga semakin dewasa dan investor udah kena bubble.
Saya juga berpikir demikian Om. Melihat data-data di atas, menunjukkan bahwa investor sudah semakin selektif untuk menggunakan dana mereka. Dan kepercayaan mereka terhadap ICO sudah hampir dikatakan hilang. Wajar sangat Om, setelah mereka kehilangan banyak uang mereka di berbagai proyek2 ICO yang gagal, mereka mungkin menjadi alergi dengan yang namanya ICO. Ya walaupun masih ada yang menginvestasikan modal mereka di ICO, mungkin hanya investor pemula atau yang terkena hype saja. Itupun lambat laun mereka juga akan kapok kalo kondisi ICO masih tetap sama.   

Selama regulasi ga ketat dan selama pasca ICO investor ga ada jaminan mereka kerja, ane rasa ICO bakal mati pelan-pelan.
Sepertinya begitu Om. Selain itu, menurut saya faktor gak ada jaminan listing + dumping besar2an juga berpengaruh besar terhadap degradasi ICO ini.
6075  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Overview ICO di tahun 2019 [Berdasarkan data icobench] on: December 22, 2019, 10:37:50 AM
Untuk Diingat

>Saya bukanlah tim dari icobench.
>Materi ini saya buat untuk wawasan bersama, tidak ada unsur komersil.
>Thread ini tidak ditujukan untuk promosi platform/perusahaan/webiste tertentu.
>Mari berdiskusi dengan santun. Silahkan tuangkan ide, pendapat, atau masukan dengan cara yang baik.
>Spam/Out of topic/komentar yang tidak patut, akan auto saya delete. Harap dihindari hal-hal semacam itu.
6076  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Overview ICO di tahun 2019 [Berdasarkan data icobench] on: December 22, 2019, 10:34:50 AM
Awal tahun 2018, orang-orang masih bersemangat join proyek ICO karena trend ICO di tahun sebelumnya (2017). Namun di pertengahan tahun 2018 hingg akhir, pamor ICO mulai menurun karena banyak proyek terindikasi scam. Apalagi ditambah dengan efek trend market crypto yang bearish, developer dan investor mulai berkurang.

Memasuki tahun 2019, mulai ada trend penjualan baru yang lebih populer yaitu IEO dan STO. IEO menjadi pilihan favorit para investor karena lebih menjanjikan keamanan dan kepastian listingnya. Hal ini menyebabkan turunnya jumlah proyek ICO dengan jumlah yang cukup drastis. Investor jarang ada yang berminat untuk join proyek ICO dengan alasan resiko scam, kualitas proyek, dan peluang sukses yang rendah.

Berikut mari kita lihat grafik yang menunjukan "downfall" ICO di tahun 2019 dan perbandingannya dengan di tahun 2018. [Berdasarkan icobench]

A. Penurunan jumlah proyek ICO [/bulan]



Jumlah proyek ICO yang listing di tahun 2018



Jumlah proyek ICO yang listing di tahun 2019

*Masih minus bulan desember karena belum berakhir. Akan diupdate nanti.

B. Total dana terkumpul [/bulan]



Total dana terkumpul setiap bulannya, di tahun 2018



Total dana terkumpul setiap bulannya, di tahun 2019

*Masih minus bulan desember karena belum berakhir. Akan diupdate nanti.


> Catatan:
Dari grafik-grafik di atas, jelas terlihat penurunan yang cukup signifikan terkait jumlah ICO dan dana terkumpul setiap bulannya. Ini menunjukkan adanya degradasi ICO di tahun 2019. Apalagi pasca popularitas IEO yang cukup baik di tahun 2019 ini. Poin positifnya, ICO masih tetap bisa bertahan walaupun mengalami kemerosotan yang cukup parah. Pertanyaannya, apakah di tahun mendatang ICO masih tetap eksis? Atau akankah kondisi ICO akan lebih baik di tahun 2020? Let's see!!


> Sumber:
1. https://icobench.com/reports/ICO_Market_Analysis_2018.pdf
2. https://icobench.com/reports/ICObench_ICO_Market_Analysis_November_2019.pdf



Thanks semuanya yang sudah menyempatkan waktu untuk sekedar membaca ataupun komen pada overview singkat ini. Jika ada kekurangan harap dimaklumi karena keterbatasan pengetahuan OP. OP sangat terbuka untuk saran atau masukan yang bersifat membangun, boleh langsung atau via inbox.  Smiley
6077  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: There is a chance of getting merit for Newbie's only [3 sMerit Available] on: December 22, 2019, 06:26:22 AM
I do not have the dedication to the community yet. Although I really want to have merit for myself. You can send it to me if you are a nice guy.
How can people send you Merits if you never made meritable posts?
I bet you can't get any single Merit if you have no intention to create something valuable or useful.
OP is a nice guy, he proves it by creating a merit giveaway. But a nice guy is not a dummy guy, he knows who deserves for Merits.

Mate, you can start to change your habit* if you really expect for Merits and rank up someday! Take a look at some merited posts from OP or others. Learn how it can be merited by people. And you are better to read more to improve knowledge.

>>Start to make something deserves for Merit!!


*Made non-meritable posts + posts related to bounties only.    
6078  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Hitungan Mundur Halving Bitcoin on: December 22, 2019, 04:15:36 AM
Saya tidak akan menulis prediksi saya, karena saya tidak ahli dibidang ini. Tapi mari kita simak salah satu prediksi dari sekian banyak prediksi yang bermunculan terkait halving BTC pada bulan Mei 2020 nanti.



Diambil dari : TradingView.

Dari gambar di atas, kita dapat melihat beberapa hal :
1. Saat ini adalah fase Akumulasi ke-2, karena Bitcoin telah mengalami konsolidasi lebih dari 5 bulan semenjak rate tertinggi pada bulan Juni yang lalu ($13,700).
2. Akankah 0,7 Fib (titik terendah) akan terpenuhi, yang angkanya berkisar di rate $6,000. Kemaren rate BTC sempat di bawah $7,000 tapi belum mencapai $6,000.  

Terkait titik terendah yang sudah dicapai sekitar satu bulan ini, mari simak data dari CMC :



Diambil dari : Coinmarketcap.

-Sejauh ini titik terendah harga BTC ada dikisaran $6,5xx.


Sumber :
1. https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BLX/mcIa8MCn-BITCOIN-Will-the-6000-gap-be-filled-before-the-Halving/
2. https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin/
6079  Other / Meta / Re: Why are so many reports going unhandled? on: December 22, 2019, 12:17:01 AM
I just have 2 unhandled reports but my total reports are not as many as yours, I guess. You may have hundreds or thousands of reports, right? Those unhandled reports may happen because of those reports are not the priority for moderators. There are thousands of reports, moderators must take a lot of time to check all. They probably divide into urgent reports and not urgent reports. The urgent ones should be the priority to handle firstly.     

Have you read this :
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5175277.msg52156492#msg52156492

CMIIW
6080  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Focus game: EPL, Matchweek 17, Manchester City vs Leicester on: December 21, 2019, 11:50:07 PM
With a winning of 3-0 against Arsenal, although ranked 2nd, City is still very likely to win, I bet 3-1!
Your prediction is absolutely correct. Man City won the match with a convincing score.



I have predicted that Man City will fight all out and they must win the match. But unfortunately, the final score was not the same as my prediction. 2-1 was just the sore for the half-time.  Cheesy


Picture was taken from: https://www.premierleague.com/match/46779
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