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People simply should completely ignore this industry and put their focus on other things. There are so many options available, why do they constantly need to come back to cloud mining? I really don't understand this.
Simple, because they greedy lazy people who want instant money without doing anything or basically they want to mining bitcoin but don't have enough capital to build a farm mining, then run into cloudming which "yeaay i mine bitcoin, have a lot coins in my wallet", really they not considering the difficult mining rate. I'm not forcing people to don't mining bitcoin via anything which real mining. Hashflare, hashnest, genesis have good reputation which might be worth to try than other cloudming, but they also considering the difficult which can reduced to earn ROI, the factor come from the company itself. Build own mining farm is might be better, but there's also another ways to earn bitcoin, the real one is trading. Thats the big mistake of people that needed to be correct and theirs nothing in this world that we can earn by just doing nothing, And cloudmining sites are just taking the advantage of those lazy people who wants to earn money easily and thats the reason why they are the one whos been a scam victim on this kind of scheme. And for us to be called miner we should have a hardware for ourself and don't trust anymore those who said they are profitable. |
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Gambling is wrong if you are depending only on it for living and to take care of your family and expenses and if you are doing it then you are putting your and your family's life at huge risk but there is nothing wrong if you are gambling only for fun.
Most people dont have any self control and tend to gamble more and more. They are just greedy and want more profits even after making profits. That is why they lose so much and end up in debts. However better you control it, its not for everyone. I prefer to use my skills and hard work to earn money and not leave it to my luck, so I hate gambling and for me gambling is a wrong thing. Others may consider it an easy way to make money and so a good thing. Whatever be the reason I still hate gambling. Well if you hate gambling then why you are wearing the sig of a gambling operator? you must hate them also? For me gambling addiction is depends on people on how they handle their self and if they can't control themselves to bet on or their lose i think there's no better life that will happen unto them. But theirs also good thing in gambling and that is the experience to won some money on their nor getting money from their promotions. |
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hi is it lottery of FreeBitco.in legit or scam
me i think not legit
Why do you said that it is not legit? Many people already start up with this thing as i know, because this is the oldest faucet site ever and they never have any problem with provably fair thing. All they need is to give you guys good amount of faucet to be claimed. They give free money and you said that it is not legit? I think you didn't read the OP post clearly because OP is talking about their lottery system and not the faucet amount. Everyone knows that they are legit in paying faucet amount on time but no one knows about the process of picking the lottery winner, and that's why OP is asking the question. I too feel that they are not legit only in this lottery portion unless they tell us the process and we can verify it. It's long time debated here and OP doesn't clarifies yet on how they pick the winner on their lottery thats why many people got confused and feel that they are not legit for operating that feature so if both of you doubting for their lottery result well might better if we just avoid it since surely we will get more annoyed if we still don't like the result when the loterry will roll unto them. |
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My only strategy is that i just set my profit goal and achieve it in the future. It is easy to win in the game if you triple or double your bet if you think you lost 2 or 3 consecutive or in a row. This will be a high chance to win in the game.
What does this mean? You have to think that you lost it? You don't see your bets or what? Sorry, but this doesn't make any sense at all. If you are referring to martingale here and doubling or tripling money on lose, 2-3 loses in row are really nothing and you should avoid this strategy. I don't Know on what is he truly means for that and maybe he just reading the stats of win/loss on dice site and which is not truly applicable or working sometimes when we apply to our betting times, And if he is using martingale strat well he might surely win on his lucky times since I believe that strat has been well known by the devs/site owners and surely they already counter that and make it uneffective when applied. |
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Bit-exo.com is my favorite site to go. Today I won over $290 worth of BTC from the jackpot. Allllriiiight.
Ah that site I remember playing a few times, nice chat community there though the layout was quite terrible when I last played there and I hope they improve it plus being it a moneypot controlled site their features are limited. Anyways my personal best sportsbook is directbet and my favorite site for dice as of now is bitdice.me as heart near entertainments from there which was impossible sometimes back. Maybe they should try to expand nor add more good features so that they will look more appealing to public but despite of that im quitely doesn't familiar for that site since im playing to the known site that are trusted more community. But whatever rankings has been pasted out im a little bit sort of jumper where playing on different sites i trusted the most. |
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Photos of the farm? Info about the owners. NO INFO, NO INVESTMENT!
This is a joke of dev. never try to invest on a cloud system that is not reliable. they just make a scheme, in the end this is all a scam. never join if we are not prepared to lose all bitcoin we have.  I agree with you. But moderators from bitcointalkforum are not out of this thing. They should delete such posts as fast as they delete posts with harm spam reflinks. So.. One more scam collapse. Website disappeared! So fast! And he looks so promising. Forum moderators can't delete posts if they don't know if this really is joke, fake or scam - how they can know that?! It is not their job to check it! We have to be carefull! Anyone can post their whatsocalled business here eventhough it is scam or not, Mods cannot do anything with it since for what i've see they doesn't restrict that here and our duty here is to became more vigilant and educate others so they will not fall on this kind of scheme. |
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Genesis Mining and Hashflare. For the price these company sells their contracts you can ROI in almost a year, without difficulty change and change of bitcoin exchange rate. Due to difficulty change it's much longer, so ROI is even more difficult to reach, if reached at all.
So for me ROI (under mentioned ideal circumstances) must be held in less then half a year, then -when real circumstances like difficulty changes are considered- ROI is reachable in less then a year.
You should read some of the statements from their real users. One guy bought a 2 year contract with GM and got it terminated by the company because they said it wasn't profitable anymore. That's how your ROI in a year works with these companies. You buy a lifetime contract and it suddenly ends after a year or 2, right when it could start being profitable for you. 2 years are far to wait and surely if we going to invest that in other platform we will possibly earn more rather than investing at genisis mining, they are not profitable now and that business is surely running as ponzi. So before investing on it its truly be a good observant so that they will not received some serious problem in future and they should remember that cloudmining investment option is down for now and not going to be profitable anymore. I also don't believe in cloud mining, I really think they are all just ponzis waiting to pop and run. It's quite easy to lie to the customers that they are really offering legit miners that they can mine on. Not to mention, they are just giving you a crap small amount of interests per day and it would not even beat inflation at the end of the year. Theres an open source of ideas where we can read more info about cloudminings aswell as mining using a hardware and the only thing we need to do is to search for liable sources on how is the state of that whatso called business. But for me i truly dont believe on owner/referral geeks people who tells that we can earn with them by investing at those cloudmining sites since i know and educated well on how awfull what cloudminings have for now. |
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Heavy investment is needed for mining yet that is somehow a guaranteed return of investment at least after 4 years of mining without selling any mined coins or at least selling only 10% for expenses, or you can let miners risk their funds and mine then you can buy off them and start trading but you'll going to buy at a higher price than you could potentially sell if you were mining yourself.
You also have to worry about electricity cost of bitcoin miners. Also when a new generation of bitcoin miners come out your miners will for sure be obsolete and no one will want to buy your old miners for the price you paid for it. It might be better if you just buy bitcoins and hold them, instead of mining it for profit. right, you're too worried about a miner, and it's probably the worst thing. what you need to do to make things better is to try trading by buying bitcoin and hold him in a long time. you can see the difference from its profits. Their are big difference from them truly if you compare their profits generated to us since in mining we surely can't get some good income with it since mining blocks difficulty is not easy for us to mine at this point, And in tradings and staking bitcoin will surely make us wealthy but theirs negative side from it since we cannot really tell that we will going to earn from it frequently when their are bad flactuation for bitcoins which can make us a losser if we don't follow its daily stats. |
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I was pretty busy with other things. Please help me again. Looking for a good sig campaign that pays in btc or other alts
Its hard to find a good campaign with payment in BTC all of it now is full. In altcoin you can try canon,wetrust,mobilego,humaniq or match pool. Visit thier Ann thread feel free to read their announcement thread and joined what you think is good for you. Btc payments campaign has been filled already and mostly of them are full since competation and wants of participants to join there are spreading and for continues growing numbers of furom member surely many people will get a hard time to get a slot on big paying btc campaigns. And my altcoins campaign suggestion for now wetrust,edgeless,humaniq and canons project campaign will surely be a good one since theyve got a good project for their coin. |
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I didn't know freebitco.in got a mining feauture, does your site accept mining investor?? Well in that case how could people get assurance to earn with investing with you? And how do you think your mining operation last?. There's so many questions crosses on my mind for now since i don't see some good credibility got your site on. |
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Some peolle hates HYIP as they think it is a ponzi, but in before I doubled my bankroll, so risk dude risk.. Risking will make you rich.
Risk?? Do you think you could earn with that always? Do you also think hyips will make you rich easily? Well your mindset their mate is very wrong since hyip is not a real business they intend to scam only and surely they doesn't want to make other rich since they want to harvest some money for theirselves just leave hyips men believe me theres no better life we can get from them |
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I would say yes small investments are much more reasonable than going straight for big ones. If you are thinking investing do you reaserch first, know what you want to invest and hows much can you pay for. Also investing small investments is not to heavy in your wallet.
That is correct every bit of investment is as precious as a large amount and if you are able to invest any small amount you will learn the basics of saving and that is a really good thing considering you will be make a huge profit if you are capable to manage your investments. to me i think yes in gambling small investment really world, as gambling is more risky therefore it will be a good decision if a person invest a small amount in gambling. Care to explain more clearly with bolded words? Gambling is risky, yes it is. But doesn't mean by investing small amount is better than gambling. If you aren't believe me (I guess so), you can try to invest small amount (~$10 or ~$11) in any gambling sites which you want. Then see how much profit you can get from your small investment. Investing small amount in gambling doesn't make any sense, better to buy pizza with that amount. Definitely, investing in gambling sites does not double your money in a short period of time and with the reality that house always wins in the long run, I guess we have to be aggressive and take the opportunity to invest. I made an experiment in the past, I put only $100 and I left it in a certain site for 2 days, to my surprise it did not even earn at least $1. Maybe the site you invested with got losses for these past days? Did you see their current stats? Well if not you should seek for it now since your earning from them is to little and i think it will be not worth it for us if we continue to do so. Or maybe they've got many investors and the dividends is wider thats why the profit who cames to you is so little |
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The question is does the owner lowered down their house edge? well if not it is still the same as the old ones who still get high chance for us to lose in their games, They should fix that category first so that they will be trusted.
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I personally belong to both groups, I believe that bitcoin will eventually go to the moon however, unless the development becomes active and developers work on a solution for BU and SegWit that we are currently facing and It could result into two coins instead of one, we will never get there and Altcoins will end up surpassing bitcoin with no doubt.
Altcoins surpassing bitcoin won't happen, because bitcoin gets more adoption and acceptance just due to its decreased volatility compared to altcoins. However technology gets updated, altcoins got served following bitcoin's base. So bitcoin popularity might decrease not the usage. Well there's a little chance for bitcoin to be surpassed by another alt if those alt have good devs with good plans for future developments and great expansion and doesn't think to scam their holders, Bitcoin is vulnarable to anything and remember its price is not stable so if their will be bad fud will spread surely bitcoin will collapsed for that and it is a great time for another alt to shine. |
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I'm thinking that we will see that price again for the next months to come. And we will see $1,300 as flooring price and stable before and after this year ends. Remember when 2016 is ending most of us expected that the price will even reached to $1k+ and it happened. Each year bitcoin is increasing and showing us surprises.
It surely does. And I'm more than happy for that I must say  Hopefully we will see $1500 before this year ends. Personally I surely think this will happen. Keep speculate guys those who lives will see. Best Regards, Your prediction is good and surely it will be reached in future if theirs no bad events will be happen, but 1500$ is the biggest price to be reached if it really came across in goodwill, But surely it will be a difficult price to reach since for now ETF has been denied and theres nothing new for us to wait that can lift up the btc price. |
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First, I did not know where else to put this thread so I hope this is the right section as this is about bitcointalk afterall.
So how does one become a campaign manager? And importantly, how does one runs a signature campaign?
Please if any campaign managers could answer, that would be great.
Thank you
Experience and trust Experience is essential things since you need to be selective and able to handle spammer Being campaign manager doesn't looks easy as it seen because you need spare time between forum and real life Trust is build from zero and need process since company start looking on trust before try to hire campaign manager ( this part is hardest, IMO ) Got it Sir, and thank you everyone else for their input. I can understand its a tough work as you have to keep an eye on lots of stuff whether its your participants or your investors. So having a lot of time at hand is a must after you have enough experience and when you are trusted enough to get the job. It was a good learning. Thanks again everyone. Reputation is a big + and if you don't have enough trust upon dealing here i think you will get a hard time to convince some site to handle their campaigns, But believe me hardworks and guts is one of the key to became a manager but in the essence that you doesn't have a trust you can still hold a campaign but you will be under by an escrow's presence. |
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once again it is not a big issue at all and it affects only the ones who use faucet also the owner claims it is a feature  so refresh ,brothers and let the luck be with you maybe one day you win a bitcoin from a faucet game and tell it to your granchildren  I don't know why some people would really bother to make this issue big and take it so seriously since we do all know faucets are just for trying out the game not on making huge money on it.Talking about making 1 bitcoin from a faucet amount (lets say 500 sats) you would be the most lucky person that ive ever known if you manage to multiply that amount to 1 bitcoin.lol Although its not a big issue but it creates attention since it was not common doings to abuse the faucet system of a site and i truly feel bad on him since i think he's doing some hardwork on this and hoping to hit big money by his abuse but sadly his expectation turned down since in reality we can't truly earn for that doing. And we should not under estimate that situation since theirs still a possibilites to win the 1 bitcoin you've mention if he is hitted by lightning lucky strikes in hear head. |
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Just remember seeing a thread like this yesterday. Not all sites ask for an ID document but a lot of them do. If you want to verify then you should look into the terms and conditions if they require a KYC policy. You can opt not playing on those.
Few casino sites ask for the submission of documents to get payout. Lots of casino website there are anonymous usage without KYC. Few days back an anonymous player won more than 250 btc in an casino who has been settled with the respective I'd number for the bet. So continued search can get you the right website for gambling. But do you think that it would be safe for us to give our documents from them? I know 250btc is super huge win but what if this site will turn to mess and our identity will be stole? Where pretty going to messy situation that can turn up to be disastrous to us if that matter happens, so for me i think giving my Info's is a big No since we don't know truly on who are we dealing up here. |
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Why other people are still believing on cloud mining sites that honestly its obvious that they are scam in the end theyare just attracting few people to invest buy giving few bitcoins for first attempts and the next time if you invest more because you are greedy and earn from investing in their site you will be scam or pending withdrawal this is just the same as other cloud mining site.. i don't see nay reason why they are giving free hash rate instead of they are earn with their own. .
I believe those victims are not came here since mostly all of people here are vigilant and knew the real scheme of all cloudmining sites,Cloud mining scam operators are spreading their site in social media since there are so many newbie's outhere believes that they can earn easily without giving a sweat online. And their free hash is just to make people see how their site works so that they will be attracted to deposit in their accounts. |
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Hi,
Do you think it is a good project idea to make a dice & faucet as a service?
I have not seen any related services. Any reason why not?
look at freebitco.in they run a faucet with dice game and i can call that they are little bit successfull since they still running at this point eventhough they doesn't have an adsense advertisement that can generate them a good profits. And also think they got players since they still managed to handle their site eventhough they been criticized by many people due to their high house edge. |
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