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6081  Local / Discussions générales et utilisation du Bitcoin / Re: Test Bitcoin grandeur nature de la limitation des blocks à 1Mb. on: September 11, 2015, 02:32:14 PM
bigre de bigre...j'y comprend pas un mot à votre discours...
6082  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Methods of growing your Bitcoin? on: September 11, 2015, 02:29:30 PM
Probably the best way to grow your Bitcoins is to save them and wait for about a year. By then the price will probably have gone up by then and you will have a substantial amount of money.

or probably not   Embarrassed
6083  Other / Off-topic / Re: When did you go to bed last night? (Daily thread) on: September 11, 2015, 02:27:12 PM
a little after midnight as usual...
6084  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: 100 days plan - bitcoin.winspiral.net on: September 11, 2015, 09:32:42 AM
Thanks for your comments.
But I want put the right time at the clock (French saying)

My system is not an HYIP.
With HYIPs we have High risk...high profit or high lost.

With my system we have ZERO RISK
but the profit is low...so far it is low.
I doubt it can become lower.
When I talk about profit,It means always "global profit"

My system is more to compare with stock market where only one" kind of bonds" are traded.
Investors can only buy "kind of bonds" and not sell them.
Its the system who sells them.

The only rule is:
all principal + dividends are given back before 100 days.
The system could give back all in one after 99 days or could give back 80% in 10 days...
The system is the only manager for the "returns"

If you believe that the system has give to early back...you can re-invest it or a part of it.
of course if at an certain moment 10% of pending investment is transfered to "next payout" balance it is done for all investors.

As said i will given back to allow re-investment or other uses...and in the same time to avoid "dust in your wallet"
All payouts are made manually...so understand that i will not spend my time to do little payouts all the day...

About proves...(proofs?) You will perhaps not seen many...
But I am already over 20 years on the net and my promises in my funny programs have always be holden.

Here my promise is just that i pay back more than the principal...i know that I cal hold this...(of course i can have an accident...)

The site itself will grow...more pages will be added and i think more profit will be generated.

Any way,if I estimate that it is not worth to run my system i will pay back investors with a little dividend and then all is finnish.
but this is (I believe) only possible if I have no time or health  to keep up runing this system.













6085  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Did you earn some bitcoin today? on: September 11, 2015, 08:26:42 AM
I earn daily satoshi with my startup and other sites.
little by little i will earn more (of course my investors as well)

But the first pupose is to manage all this...




6086  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Where to get highest free BTC? on: September 11, 2015, 08:19:41 AM
I think if you want to work hard on some manual jobs or services likebweb developing , graphic works etc these type of things generally pay you high amount of bitcoins and can make you rich

If you have to work hard you cannot consoder that you got "highest free bitcoin"
When you work do you get free dollars or other cash money?Huh?

The terl "free" is to use carefully...
i do not know many way to get "for free" cash...generally I have to do something.
generally just asking for free is already a work...
after often the work is to claim on faucets with all the work we know.

6087  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: 100 days plan - bitcoin.winspiral.net on: September 11, 2015, 08:12:06 AM
Principle should be become clearer and clearer for investors and visitors.
BZW the startup site has more visitors than investors...

But I'm sure among the visitors naturally visitors will become investors.

You can see the profit,the low profit.
But if you follow,you can see that the love rate of profit is increasing.

All the people who invest in HYIPs who believe that it is easy are completly wrong.

With winspiral's startup you will see a real econnomy and you are the actor of its profit(a little)
But you will be the main actors of profit rate.
My job is to make profit.
of course investors can as well help to increase profit by "promoting" the startup site.(But it is not asked)
Investors' job is to make the rate of profit.
How?
Simply by investing more or less...it will be naturally.
The investors are the "market".

The market will invest more or less and this will fixe the profit rate.
Profit and profit rate is not the same.

So far profit and profit rate is low.
if no new investment,the pending investment will decrease and certainy the profit stay same and the result is that the profit rate will increase.
if the profit rate increase and become high...
Then naturally the market will invest...the profit rate will then decrease...etc...etc...
We have a market regulation.
Of course this sheme is for a constant global profit.
A changing global profit influence the profit rate too.

My advice:
If you have sleeping satoshi in your wallet and have no way to make cash with it...
I advice you to invest in winspiral's startup because in worth of cases you earn a little bit.
No other risk...of course your cash isin big part immobilized for 100 days.
But if you invest you can be sure that after 100 days you are a little bit richer.

Feel free to ask here if something is not clear about my startup.








6088  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: winspiral's other faucet [1 satoshi][+5000 satshi activity bonus] on: September 10, 2015, 03:24:05 PM
If you visit the last claimers page you can see(of course it changes if claims are done)

for 30 last claims:
13 claims are from new claimers
7 claims are from claimers who have already won at least 5000 satoshi
9 claims are from claimers who have not won a bonus yet.

As you can see all is done in full transparence.
6089  Other / Archival / Re: Last Drink You drank. (daily thread) on: September 10, 2015, 02:54:07 PM
just now...water
6090  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Did you earn some bitcoin today? on: September 10, 2015, 02:51:55 PM
50000 satoshi per faucets today
6091  Other / Off-topic / Re: When did you go to bed last night? (Daily thread) on: September 10, 2015, 11:52:02 AM
a little bit after midnight
6092  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: 100 days plan - bitcoin.winspiral.net on: September 10, 2015, 08:47:18 AM
the cashback process is now running.
So far the dividends are small.
But because of the cash back process,the ROI will increase.

People will then compare my NO-RISKY system with other risky systems.

Ok you will ever find people who prefer risky systems but believe me,you will also find people who will chose my no-risky system.
The only problem i can see is your BTC transfert fees.it's the one.

An other problem can be if big investors invest in my system...then the the little one will only dividend dust.

Already so we have an investor who get 50 times more dividends than the 0.001btc investors.

But with the difference that you will not lose something...
In fact in worth situation you only earn little...but you never lose.

http://bitcoin.winspiral.net

This is already the profit of the "big first investor"
0.0000985602 BTC

Not bad for a no risky system.







6093  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Where to get highest free BTC? on: September 10, 2015, 08:26:52 AM
i think the question should not be "get highest free BTC" because it is a question too open and finally it is not interesting to answer.

if you have a way to earn 1 satoshi you will say it is to low...
But if you have a way to have 100000 times 1 satoshi per day doing nothing it is high.
Even if you get only 1 satoshi per month doing nothing it is high...

You can only compare high higher and highest for exactly the same kind of work or plaesure.

You have certainly heard about the read books and be paid.
if you open the books just to earn few satoshi,then it is not worth to open the books.
but if you have pleasure to read,then why not earn few satoshi?

it is the same with the unended discussion about faucets and sign campagnes.
What is more worth?
earning 100000 satoshi for doing something you not like or 10000 for something you do just for the fun to do it?


6094  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Methods of growing your Bitcoin? on: September 09, 2015, 07:54:23 PM
i have 3 times given few cash for a loan...but i have never seen it back.

On this website, or to people to that you know in the real world?

On Perfect Money official site
6095  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Where to get highest free BTC? on: September 09, 2015, 12:23:56 PM
If you want a free btc then go for faucets.

This is not a good suggestion, faucet is too small to get bitcoin, unless you have a lot of referrals.
but if you have many referrals who have many referrals...you will earn nothing if your referrals do not claim satoshi and just wait the satoshi from referrals.

6096  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Methods of growing your Bitcoin? on: September 09, 2015, 12:20:36 PM
i have 3 times given few cash for a loan...but i have never seen it back.
6097  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: I have 0.02 btc , want to invest on: September 08, 2015, 08:17:02 AM
0.02btc is I think a good amount for my start-up (lol)

Explain how your site isn't a ponzi, other than "This system is not a ponzi because you will get back your investment."

Because with a ponzi you will never get back your investment if you are among the last ones.
And this is normal because your investment is used to pay the previous investors.

Of course my system "could" be a ponsi if I'm a scammer.
This is why it is not easy to know what is a ponzi and what is not a ponzi.

A ponzi generaly tell you how much you will earn.
I do not tell you how much you will earn in 100 days.
You will only earn what is possible to earn and this "what is possible to earn" comes from incomes and not from new investors.
If you follow what is published on the site you understand  better what i say.

I can see information about Bitcoin, but not about your scheme.
What exactly am I investing in?

The "information" is in fact a "have to put text" because many sponsors ask text on the home page.
it is why you can see such text on many pages of many sites.
This does not disturb me...can help some people to learn about bitcoin...and it does not take me much resources.

Now:
What exactly are you investing in?

You invest in a start-up.
This means that you take part of the profit of the investment site itself.

You get a part of "old profits and future profits"
Yor investment fix the "part" you have in the start up.
Your investment does not make profit,it is the site.
Your investment does only fix the part of the start-up you have.
You must understand this.

You can compare with a share of stock market.
it's not the price of the share who makes the profit but the company of the share.

I have adapted in a simple forme (to programme with my developer knowledges) a market system.
The principle is easy even if it is at the begining hard to understand:
If people stop to invest the profit notmally grows(with a constant income)
Then of course people will invest to get profit.
Then the profit will decrease and all will be regulated by the market.

So far it's a start up...
it is classic to know that a start-up is inprevisible.
But I have set the system that the first condition is that the investors do not lose the single satoshi.
This makes global income for the investors the same,but individualy you cannot earn what an other could lose.
So:
each time a dividend is given each investor get in prorata of his pending investment.
each time transfert from pendingbtc balance to next payout is done it is done "at prorata.
I only payout by feeling because i want no send dust to investor's wallet.
As said:
the strict condition is that investors will get back all investment + dividends after 100 days.

 

6098  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: price difference on various marketplaces - beginners question on: September 07, 2015, 07:32:01 PM
Just like when you have 3 grocery stores nearby, they all carry apples but the prices are usually a little different. Different exchanges have different prices because they have different buyers and sellers. Each market is individual. Although they all tend to follow the same direction (up, or down) the actual price is usually a bit off by a few dollars.

Right...
and you only talk about the price on 3 market places.
In fact we have 1000sands and 1000sands places where the price is different.

Take all the exchangers sites:
Each exchanger site is a little market.

When you buy or sell something with bitcoins...you are a micro market and you influence somewhere the price of bitcoin.
6099  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: I have 0.02 btc , want to invest on: September 07, 2015, 07:21:56 PM
0.02btc is I think a good amount for my start-up (lol)

Explain how your site isn't a ponzi, other than "This system is not a ponzi because you will get back your investment."

Because with a ponzi you will never get back your investment if you are among the last ones.
And this is normal because your investment is used to pay the previous investors.

Of course my system "could" be a ponsi if I'm a scammer.
This is why it is not easy to know what is a ponzi and what is not a ponzi.

A ponzi generaly tell you how much you will earn.
I do not tell you how much you will earn in 100 days.
You will only earn what is possible to earn and this "what is possible to earn" comes from incomes and not from new investors.
If you follow what is published on the site you understand  better what i say.
6100  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: Do you still really use faucet? on: September 07, 2015, 07:05:11 PM
I know that faucet are completely a waste of time but with a lot of referrals it will be worthy

When Bitcoin was worth dust, faucets giving out 1 BTC and it was a waste of time. Who knows what the future will bring..

Faucets are not a waist of time because it is a deal among publishers and advertisers and claimers.
Each one believe it is correct ...all the one who tell us it's a wait of time can not do something about it.
tell to a fisher that catching only one little fish is waist of time...he will say to you:
take care about yourself and let me fish my little fish!!!
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