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6081  Other / Politics & Society / Re: My wife is a hero: mom shoots intruder 5 times, saves kids on: January 09, 2013, 10:22:51 PM
lol how did this thread turn to construction? It does make you think though? How the hell can we keep our homes secure against hurricanes and tsunamis? I wonder if steel is a good option? Though that seems like it would have problems as well.

The places that are serious about storms build their houses (or at least one room) with cinder block walls, reinforced with rebar, and filled with concrete. Next best thing to digging into the side of a mountain.

Safety from a tsunami actually requires a whole different design strategy: make way for the water.

The truth is that for the vast majority of us, it's not worth making our homes secure from hurricanes and tsunamis. I'm probably more likely to be killed on my way home tonight than I am of ever being killed by a hurricane in my home.

And a tsunami would have to be going some to reach Tennessee. Cheesy
6082  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What are the minimum prerequisites for Capitalism to be possible? on: January 09, 2013, 10:16:57 PM

Yes, but that store need not be long-term. Did you play that island game MoonShadow linked to? You get to "keep" the excess value in the form of a better meal.

I would say it has to be at least medium term for capitalism. You gots to have the capital itself.
6083  Other / Politics & Society / Re: My wife is a hero: mom shoots intruder 5 times, saves kids on: January 09, 2013, 04:24:37 PM
OTOH, there was someone killed a couple of years ago who lived in a brick house when the wall blew over and fell on them.

Though in the US, even brick houses are commonly wooden frame. If I ever build a house, it will be all-brick just like my parents' was.
6084  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What are the minimum prerequisites for Capitalism to be possible? on: January 09, 2013, 03:59:29 PM
Other livestock, as well. "Look how rich he is! He's got five goats."

But money is important. It's easier to carry around than livestock, and with accepted ratios, easier to make change. Also, you don't need to feed it. Added bonus: you can bury it in the back yard, and dig it up a year later, still worth as much as the day you buried it. Try doing that with a chicken.

I guess the point I'm not really getting at very well is that it's not enough to have stuff, it's not even enough to have enough stuff to trade, capitalism requires that it be possible to keep the excess of value that is created in that trade.
6085  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What are the minimum prerequisites for Capitalism to be possible? on: January 09, 2013, 02:58:24 PM
Still on page 1 but I didn't see it there...

Capitalism needs a store of value. It doesn't work exchanging  chickens for corn if  the chicken spoils and the corn rots. Sure, you'll eat well but it's only when you get to chicken jerky, feathers for decoration and dry storage for the corn that capitalism kicks in

Pre-money capitalism typically traded the chickens alive and kicking.

I guess live chickens are a valid form of stored value Smiley
6086  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Gun freedom advocates - what weapons shouldn't be legally available? on: January 09, 2013, 02:54:55 PM
The issue of defining why civilians shouldn't be allowed nuclear weapons is complicated by the need to rationalize why governments should be allowed them.
Nuclear depth charges in the 10-500KT range are the most effective way to combat submarines. Of course, there's also the issue of protecting yourself from other governments that might get them and use them for blackmail absent a threat of nuclear retaliation.

True as far as it goes. But that begs a whole lot of other questions.
6087  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Gun freedom advocates - what weapons shouldn't be legally available? on: January 09, 2013, 05:49:41 AM
Take the research I did in other threads for example, why is it in Serbia


Serbia?

Really?
6088  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Gun freedom advocates - what weapons shouldn't be legally available? on: January 09, 2013, 05:44:26 AM
Presumably, there is some set of requirements sufficient to ensure they're used properly and responsibly. If people can't meet those requirements, they shouldn't have nuclear weapons. If they can, why shouldn't they have them?


The issue of defining why civilians shouldn't be allowed nuclear weapons is complicated by the need to rationalize why governments should be allowed them.
6089  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Gun freedom advocates - what weapons shouldn't be legally available? on: January 09, 2013, 05:41:23 AM
I was just thinking something similar when I responded to the second post, so I've changed OP. I personally do believe that in no circumstance any private individual should be allowed unfettered access to and ownership of a nuclear device. Even if a they were able to satisfactorily protect their family and the weapon, any risk of a previously undiagnosed mental illness leading the owner to use the weapon is too great a risk.

Pah, you can have my nuke when you pry it from my hot, glowing hands.
6090  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What are the minimum prerequisites for Capitalism to be possible? on: January 09, 2013, 05:27:14 AM

I remember Microsoft being subjected to huge anti-trust action. It was smart enough to maintain a monopoly and, as such, was forced to let competition in.

Unfortunately, monopolies are a natural equilibrium state of capitalism. To function effectively, capitalism must be supported by a hidden system of authoritarian control..

This is what exists today.

You remember the huge action. What you don't remember is that George Bush got in and it ended up with a slap on the wrist (and that's stretching it) for Microsoft.
6091  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What are the minimum prerequisites for Capitalism to be possible? on: January 09, 2013, 05:13:12 AM
Still on page 1 but I didn't see it there...

Capitalism needs a store of value. It doesn't work exchanging  chickens for corn if  the chicken spoils and the corn rots. Sure, you'll eat well but it's only when you get to chicken jerky, feathers for decoration and dry storage for the corn that capitalism kicks in
6092  Other / Politics & Society / Re: In the gun debate who do you think is the most stupid? on: January 06, 2013, 03:40:19 AM


Nice one. Though I'd just like to point out that not all British citizens are quite as hopeless as you make out (in the same was that many US citizens actually are). Worth bearing in mind that Washington was, at one point, a colonel in the British army.
6093  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Right to endanger? on: January 01, 2013, 07:44:32 AM

Impairment testing is all well and good. But singling out one cause of impairment is rather pointless, isn't it?

I agree. There are many other possible causes of impairment including prescription drugs, incapacity due to age and just plain not being skilled at driving. A proper driving test and periodic re-qualification would do wonders for road safety.

Fortunately, this is likely to become moot in what will seem like a surprisingly short period of time. It wont be without its downsides though.
6094  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Right to endanger? on: December 31, 2012, 05:01:10 PM
A relevant article on the subject:
http://lfb.org/blog/the-drunk-driving-question/

Quote
With laws against DUI, what’s being criminalized? Not wreckless driving as such. Not aggression against anyone. What’s being criminalized is the chemical make up of the blood in your body. That itself should be no crime. To make having a certain blood content illegal is essentially totalitarian.

A little bit disingenuous as quoted as what's being criminalized is not UI but DUI.

There's an oft quoted phrase "Your right to swing your fist ends at the end of my nose". I've always felt a little uncomfortable with this as there are quite a few things that could go wrong that would end up with fist and nose coming into violent contact. It would also be interesting to see what would happen in an ancap society to a person who went around swinging their fist just short of people's noses.

Usually when things seem woolly like this issue, I usually find it means that the argument has not been thought through to first principles and insufficient information about the circumstances have been given. Government laws, for example, usually attempt to treat the circumstances and not the cause and are typically poorly thought out even for that.
6095  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Right to endanger? on: December 29, 2012, 11:56:49 PM
This goes back to the question libertarians and anarchists always end up asking: Is it better to know your limits, and stay within them, or to allow an external authority to set limits for you?
I love that question - never seen it before, not stated that way. 

It's almost never stated flat out like that, but it's always asked in one way or another.
It's scary when the training wheels come off for some.
6096  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: BFL did lie about their ASIC! NEW info. on: December 29, 2012, 10:34:50 PM

They still have a long way to go but it seems they are way ahead of BFL.
I'd love some comments from those who give BFL money and were thinking they are so smart, and  those who sad that I'm some troll or been payed to talks smack about BFL.

Dude, it's not over until the BFL guys post to say they turned up to work and the doors were locked and the execs aren't answering their phones.

Though I'm not necessarily saying that will happen.
6097  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Right to endanger? on: December 29, 2012, 07:55:34 PM
What is crazy is that drunk driving does increase risk for everyone and that there are laws about it yet those who cause drunk driving accidents are typically repeat offenders either because punishments are too low or they simply drive illegally. Government is simply not in a good position to administer access to the roads. They can't simply consider safety and efficiency but there are many other competing considerations and some hurdles based on (quite sound) legal restrictions on what government can actually do (those drunk-driving road blocks are a travesty

The driving test here in Tennessee is a joke also.
6098  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoins Can Inflate Too - Stop worrying about deflation. on: December 29, 2012, 04:10:09 AM
And how about the opposite? If deflation implies currency hoarding and delaying purchases, inflation implies early purchasing and hoarding of supplies, consequently pushing the price up for everyone else.
6099  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Right to endanger? on: December 29, 2012, 04:06:49 AM
My grandfather's truck drove him home for nearly 20 years

Why is everyone arguing about speed limits?  They will be obsolete in 10-20 years.  With self driving cars the car's computer will only allow the car to go at a set speed, which will be determined by the safe road speed, the weather conditions, and by the other cars around.  Good bye revenue for speed trap towns.

True. And I look forward to that day. Hopefully the daily commute will be obsolete for many also. I find it hard to believe all the fuss being made about the green agenda when no one seems to be pushing for the most obvious energy saving measure of all - removing the need to use a ton of steel to move a couple of hundred pounds of flesh around (let alone the human cost of it all).
6100  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Right to endanger? on: December 29, 2012, 02:56:00 AM
This is a little tangental but interesting.

http://www.brake.org.uk/facts/naked-roads.htm

The essence is that by tightly regulating the roads, a false sense of security is engendered. When responsibility is put back of the driver, speeds drop in dangerous areas and safety is improved. Certainly I know of a couple of places where it would be possible to get in trouble from over-confidence in signs and markings.

To the question originally asked, I think the subject is somewhat muddied and is getting conflated with other issues. I think myrkul touches on this when he refers to threatening behavior but I don't think that's the whole story. Certainly it's possible to deliberately endanger people in ways that would not be considered breaking the law if there was no adverse outcome.
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