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6101  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Accumulation phase is out!? on: December 31, 2022, 09:27:59 PM
A month after this thread is being created, we can say that we are still in the accumulation phase.

Although some green lights happened just recently, we can't say that it's now the start of the expectation of a bull run. What's the next thing to do? Just to accumulate as much as we can as we don't know if something like this, on the price level like this, will still happen in the future after a bull run.

These might be a different 4Q to anyone as they used on seeing a rocketing price during this month.
Well, in part, what I have always done in my personal analysis is that we are in a phase of re-accumulation, of course I am saying this based on the Wyckoff method, which I have always been guided to do my corresponding analysis, this is One way to do it, for example, it works for me to apply the Wyckoff method in Accumulation, re-accumulation, Distribution phase and redistribution phase, when we are in a trend, whether it is a bullish or bearish trend, I apply other things, such as Elliot waves and I really see them with a higher success rate, so these are some of my tricks to be able to study the market.
6102  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Hello Im trader i do binance futures trading see what i can Do here on: December 31, 2022, 06:25:52 PM
Fil/usdt tp target: 5.55$
Fil price now 4.39$
Stop loss: 4$

This is another trading signal that has ended with a stop loss. This means that the price never reached the take profit that you indicated, but after the sideways move, the price dropped to the level of $2.4. I think that you no longer need to demonstrate your ability to predict the price here, and next time you will appear here with a new account.

It would be spectacular if Op could give the signal plus his analysis, because that way we can help each other so that things are much better, don't you think? I know that those who give signals only give them but do not leave their analysis, which seems a bit incomplete to me because anyone can say a random signal and now in trading we should have everything clearer, more than we are using the forum, the forum allows us to use and know everything in a much more detailed way and that is the beauty of bitcointalk, that everything can be deepened, what if you can put the signal with the graph plus the analysis, together we can help.
6103  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Beginner Averaging future trading. on: December 31, 2022, 05:31:02 PM
Well, but this is something that you are making decisions based on what criteria? Not much can be done if you don't have some type of study previously done, I am one of the people who believe that a fundamental analysis and a technical analysis must be carried out to be able to reach conclusions like yours, and if I want to operate in the short term, I would with a time of 4 hours, because I believe that I can react quickly to any sudden change in the market, now if I do it at larger intervals I think it would be more seen as a long-term trade, or almost as an investment, but obviously I know that long-term trades are the ones that leave the most money.
6104  Economy / Gambling / Re: Any Casino Android software on: December 31, 2022, 05:01:46 PM

I will prefer a casino app rather than a mobile version of a casino site. An app is designed to fully utilize and adapt to the mobile version and it is optimized in this way. With the mobile version, you have to still use it in a mobile browser and it is not very convenient. Even I feel that doing gambling with a mobile app is somewhat difficult but still, it is handy if you want to bet on a match and you are nowhere near the computer.

Other than that it is preferable to gamble on a PC which a reasonably big screen and enjoy the time.  Smiley
If you want to gamble and the gadget that is near where you are then I would choose the app too which the app version of the casino is fully utilized as you have said and you don't need to zoom in and zoom out when you are gambling accessing their casino using your mobile device instead of using pc or laptop. When you sre using app version then it is more like using pc or laptop in a smaller version but if you compare the size of the screen then pc or laptop is much bigger.

An app is really easier to use compared to browsers but in my experience, using browsers to play is still a good choice especially if you aren't home or if you're somewhere else and don't have your pc with you. The simple zooming in and zooming out will never be a problem if you would really want to enjoy playing. The convenience is more important. I haven't used or even seen any app for reputable casinos in playstore so using their website through mobile phone is still a good choice.

Well it's a matter of taste, it also depends on the phone associated to which you have the application, because in particular for me the apps on my smartphone are not very fast and tend to be slow, that was the decision I made to uninstall Binance, so there are some things that are not the same or as I am used to using it on the PC, in the app there are some limitations and some are quite difficult to find their components.

The mobile versions, such as those found on google play to download, are sometimes not as good as one thinks, so for a trip or where there is a long time to travel, it is the only advantage that I would see, this in regards in my opinion.
6105  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Fees on Dormant Accounts on Crypto Gambling Platforms on: December 31, 2022, 04:44:41 PM
I think casinos should write in their TOS that if a person is inactive for 6 months then the account will be blocked, and that person would have to create another account, this would be a better solution than the casino letting the inactive person relax and then and 6 months later that person comes back and logs in and is faced with something like: - 1000$ in the account balance, that is, the person will have a debt with the casino of 1000$ definitely I do not agree with that, it is not fair. the casino should block the account of inactive people for a long time, something like 6 months or more than putting a fine or fee
Yes, it's not fair but they've got policies that tell them that they have all the rights to do whatever they want with the funds if the period that they've set was met by that dormant account.
It's hard to see people experience that because it's an amount that's quite high to gamble with but we can't do anything with that if that's policy. The only way to do it is to negotiate with the casino and ask them nicely if they can be considerate enough to you so that they'll return the fund.
It's possible but it's just a way of trying it out.

It's their right to close inactive accounts if it's been inactive for a long time especially if it is included in their TOS. That's the reason why we are always advised to avoid agreeing to a casino's TOS without reading it. It is also not a good idea to keep our funds in our casino wallet and leave it there for a long time. We should better store it in our wallets to avoid occurences like this in the future because once we leave it there without checking, the casino will have the authority over it.
Unlike all of you, I will never agree that they have to close, block casino accounts in case the user has been inactive, first because if I want to leave my casino account with money and I want to have that account to play . when I "want" to play again, do it normally and not get a notice that I can't play or that my account was suspended because those things are not nice, unless it is stipulated in the 'terms and conditions', but at the same time If the casinos set those criteria, I think they would stop being casinos to my liking and I would never play there again or recommend that casino.
6106  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: December 31, 2022, 04:08:17 PM
Agree. Liverpool seems hard to compete for the title with the current points. It is too far from Arsenal in the first place. Liverpool also still can't play consistently and win 3 points in every match. There is a significant change in Liverpool performance this season. So, we cannot expect Liverpool to play as well as the last season. I also think that UCL zone is the most possible goal for Liverpool. But it won't be easy too since they must compete with Tottenham and Man United.

You are right that only Arsenal and Man City compete for the title this season. Although Arsenal is leading with 5 points, Man City isn't a typical club that is easy to stop struggling. They must try all out to overtake Arsenal, Arsenal isn't safe yet.
Started with poor performance in this season, Liverpool chance with Primer League tittle seems hard after remaining 15 points left from Arsenal leaded standing position awhile. No doubt with Primer League left many matches but Liverpool performance still inconsistency and I don't sure can exist and compete in Primer League tittle race with Arsenal and Manchester City.

Reaching to UEFA Champion League Zone standing seems possible for Liverpool because left 5 points from Tottenham Hotspur at 4th placed right now, but Liverpool still have one match left than Spur have played 15 matches. Arsenal and Manchester City are strong candidate team with  Primer League tittle until matchday 15, if have consistency performance I believe with Arsenal opportunity can exist in the top standing position.

I also believe that Liverpool have all the options of being able to enter the privileged places to be in the UCL, of course I have also seen a lot of potential for Arsenal and it is very likely that City is one of the strongest teams, in addition They have Gabriel Jesus at Arsenal, they have Mo Salah at Liverpool, these two players are very important in their teams, if they take a good look at how world football is, they know that now anything and any result is very possible, there is no nothing written and what can happen is in the possibilities, so this league may turn into pleasant surprises for many fans.

after E. Haaland scored 2 goals in his last league match vs. leeds united here is a statistic that shows that the norwegian striker who plays for 'the citizens' has now scored more goals alone than e.g. fc chelsea or other pl clubs
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Erling Haaland has a very terrible playing style because of his position in Manchester City as a striker who is very reliable and is feared by many enemies, he is often referred to as a cyborg because he has pretty good speed and ball control. His contribution at Manchester City exceeds that of existing legend players because he has scored many goals this season and has often led Manchester City to victory.

Yes, Haalana's ability to play is unquestionable, perhaps 'because of his father who taught him many things, his father was a very tough soccer player who taught him incredible things, now Haaland as he is for the team Pepe Guardiola does not want to let him go for the world, he is its biggest star, and PL football is not just any old thing, it is the most famous football that exists and the sponsors inject the most money into it, it is filling up with the best players in the world. world, and has a high level that is demonstrable in their games, some players say that it is much more difficult to play in the PL than in the same UCL.

Frank Lampard reveals Erling Haaland Chelsea transfer regret as Man City striker breaks record



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Former Chelsea manager Frank Lampard has claimed that he wanted to sign Manchester City star striker Erling Haaland while in charge at Stamford Bridge. It comes as the current Everton boss prepares to face off against the Norwegian talisman in their next Premier League clash.

Haaland has become a feared player for many since joining City in the summer from Borussia Dortmund, already hitting 20 Premier League goals in just 14 appearances - the quickest anyone in the era of the new top division has reached such a target. It truly begs the question of just how many he can bag this season as a whole.

Alan Shearer believes that he can hit as many as 40 goals this season, while Haaland refused to answer on whether he had a target to hit. He told Amazon Prime: "I got one but I cannot say. You know this.”

Source: https://www.football.london/chelsea-fc/transfer-news/lampard-haaland-chelsea-transfer-record-25864945
6107  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2022/23 on: December 31, 2022, 02:17:52 PM
They need a champion because they have to secure some new investors and patch their finances during this transfer which is actually very draining by pouring a lot of money. Xavi needs to prove that the scheme he is running and the players he has bought can be the best and Barcelona officials want that as proof that Xavi has not failed.
I am not sure that even winning La Liga will help Barcelona cope with the financial problems that have fallen on it, because these problems did not arise yesterday and therefore it will be difficult to fix them in one day. The best option was to reduce their ambitions financially for at least a year, but the club's management took a different path and got into debt, and also refused part of the profits that the club would have in the future. Therefore, yes, you need at least a second place to at least keep the interest of advertisers and potential investors at the same level.

I think the same, in comparison with Real Madrid, it is a team that for now cannot be strengthened further, I also heard and saw a piece of news, I don't know if it is fake, but that Lewa wants to leave, I also read that they were very interested in CR7 leaving I went to Barcelona, I think that personally, it's not good for CR7 to go there, it's not correct, I don't see CR7 with a maroon blue shirt, I think that if he's not from Real Madrid he couldn't belong to his greatest rival, however What is happening to Barcelona is Xavi's fault and that is the sole responsibility of the directors for having given him so much power, it is something for which they have to answer from now on.

Atletico Madrid's victory against Elche with a score of 2-0 was marked by a rain of yellow cards and red cards in the match. However, this victory gave Atletico Madrid 3 points and made them move up to 3rd place in the standings. But that could not last long considering that tomorrow there will be a match between Real Sociedad vs Osasuna, if Real Sociedad wins then Atletico Madrid's position will be shifted again, but at least Atletico Madrid is still safe if it is in the top 4 of the La Liga standings.

Yes, we must admit that Atlético did very well, honestly I saw a somewhat stormy game and things may not have gone very well because of the yellow cards, it is something that does not look good, but a result is a very good result , what is known is that they won and that is what has made them rise and the result with respect to Osasuna is something that may or may not happen, if they go up or take third place from them, it is up to them if they allow it, La Liga is getting good, however Real Madrid is one of the teams that I think is going to sweep all its matches, I have no doubt about that.

A good story of how they put an end to an Atlético that did not emerge:

Atlético defeats Elche to end winless run in Spanish league
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João Félix and Álvaro Morata scored second-half goals for Atlético, which moved back into the Champions League places with the victory at the Metropolitano stadium. “The team had a great attitude,” Atlético coach Diego Simeone said. "It was a very good match. We have to keep working to keep improving going forward.”

Source: https://www.sanluisobispo.com/sports/article270570572.html
6108  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: December 31, 2022, 01:40:02 PM
In any case the comparison is indeed not very appropriate because in terms of age, in terms of achievement it is also very far now. because if you really want a comparison, at least look for an equal comparison because Mbappe and Messi don't really match in terms of performance because from any perspective there are quite significant differences.
When you say Mbappe is better in terms of performance, it's quite natural, because the age is also very different. If you say Messi is better in terms of individuals, this achievement is also reasonable because he is nearing the end.
In this case I also agree with you, because what Messi already has, obviously, Mbappe doesn't necessarily have at this point. Both have different achievements in their careers and also different speed in the game, but it's about accuracy and how to carry the ball past their opponents in the game. I see that things are not that much different so it is correct to compare the two, it is very less suitable to do except with players who are both senior in their football career.

Although Mbappé can beat Lio Messi in age, I think that it is the only thing in which the French can beat the Argentine, because I think that in technique, in strength and in speed Messi continues to beat him despite his age, I have also seen that They keep leaving Messi on the field of play, and I think that Scaloni will not take him out because if not all of Argentina and the whole world will demand it, just as they did to Fernando Santos when he arrived in Portugal who gave him a warm welcome telling him that he was there fired from the national team and the main person responsible for Portugal losing their game for taking CR7 out of the games and not letting him play.

We have a game that may change somewhat although I don't believe at all that something will change in this league,but the game of Lens vs Paris if Lens wins,it can give us a false hope that maybe the Ligue 1 is still open and that Paris is not dominating as long as they have done in the previous seasons.I would love for Lens to win but seeing that they play more in a defensive way,they have conceded the less goals compared to most teams of the Ligue 1 makes me think that they will have difficulty winning against Paris at this direct clash.

Nothing is impossible in football, maybe we will be able to see Lens win over PSG or make the same result as their previous 2 meetings (draw). But considering that in their last 2 meetings the results have always been draws, I think in this match PSG will use a more offensive strategy so they can score lots of goals first. Also, the handicap bet on this match is also a bit fishy, ​​I'm 100% sure that PSG will win this time.

Well, it's like they say, nothing is impossible, however Lens has a lot of potential, but I keep falling for the same thing, will Lens, like other teams like Marseille, continue to think that PSG is still superior? Because we must admit, in that team they have the best players in the world and those who always rely on it cannot do much, although for me it is something mental that each of the players think, because I saw Mbappé in trouble with his France And not to mention Arentina with all that she suffered, this is something that can generate confidence for others, so there is nothing certain, or anything written, either of them can win.

PSG predicted lineup v Lens: Spanish pair to partner Kylian Mbappé in attack



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It’s a daunting trip up north on New Year’s Day for Christophe Galtier’s men, who face second-place Lens in the most intense stadium atmosphere French football has to offer.

In this potential early title-deciding clash, PSG will be without Neymar – who is suspended after his double yellow card against Strasbourg – as well as Lionel Messi, who returns next week after being granted a rest, having led Argentina to the World Cup title.

As ever, then, the league leaders’ chances rest on the shoulders of Kylian Mbappé, who returned to action in midweek by scoring the winner from the spot against Strasbourg, having returned to training just days after losing the World Cup final.

Source: https://www.getfootballnewsfrance.com/2022/psg-predicted-lineup-v-lens-spanish-pair-to-partner-kylian-mbappe-in-attack/
6109  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: December 31, 2022, 03:54:11 AM
I actually think that Ronaldo CR7 being in Real Madrid training ground today will mean something in coming future. At this point , I'm sure that Ronaldo will accept being on the bench for Real Madrid as if I were Ancelotti and I had to chose between Hazaard and Cr7 , I would go with Cr7 to be my prime substitute. Nevertheless , Florentino Perez seems very open to let Ronaldo training as long as he needs so that's maybe another hint that he will be officially with Real until summer.
If I'm not mistaken in the news from a few months ago, Real Madrid's management doesn't need a player like Cristiano Ronaldo because he is old and his performance has decreased a lot but is it possible to recall Cristiano Ronaldo out of pity? considering that Cristiano Ronaldo has a lot of services for Real Madrid, it might happen if that's the case, seeing Ronaldo back training with the Real Madrid kids.
I think Ronaldo still has a positive effect on encouraging his friends with the passion he has Florentino Perez probably decided to make Ronaldo a motivator in the team even though he was given less time to play and more on the bench.


https://amp.marca.com/en/football/real-madrid/2022/12/14/639a070bca47418a1e8b45bc.html

So apparently Cristiano Ronaldo has requested to train in the Real Madrid training, ground himself. Still, no link has been found between him moving to Real Madrid. He was also training far away from the main squad. So far, this is just an attempt from him to stay in shape apparently. I know that Real Madrid does not need someone like him right now. But who knows maybe that decision from Real Madrid might change! And this is very recent news.



Well, you never know, Ancelotti may see it as a great way to tell him to join, you don't know, he would also be becoming one of the best players in the world, I think any team would like to have CR7 in his ranks, because he is a player who can score goals at any time, however if he is training from now on it is because he wants to be at the level of the others and the younger ones, clearly in the World Cup he did not have many opportunities to play, and they always took him out, which seemed to me a total mistake, for that reason I think that CR7 will not let himself be beaten, and since he is a born athlete, he will seek to have his best form in these last 4 years that he can leave playing.




The future of CR7 is something that has me waiting for what can happen, because on the one hand we have that he is training at Real Madrid, apparently Ancelotti wants him, and it is presumed that Florentino Perez can save him from the negotiation that he has with Al Nassr, because the Portuguese wants to stay competing in the first division and in a big way in the UCL, however this uncomfortable meeting that he has to do is presented, it is a business that must be treated with great care, but if it is supported For Florentino Pérez there could be many good things for CR7.

Cristiano Ronaldo set for awkward Al-Nassr reunion after Lionel Messi claim



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Cristiano Ronaldo could be joined at Al-Nassr by Sergio Busquets, a man who previously suggested Lionel Messi stood on his own amid comparisons with the former Man Utd star.

Ronaldo, who left Manchester United by mutual agreement in November, is expected to move to Saudi Arabia on a mega-money deal. Al-Nassr's president claimed "most of what has been written and said in the media is a lie," but the club remain hopeful of pushing a deal through.

The 37-year-old isn't the only target for the Saudi side, who are also reportedly after Ronaldo's former Real Madrid team-mate Sergio Ramos. Busquets could make it a trio of big signings, but there might be some awkwardness based on his previous comments.

Source: https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/ronaldo-transfer-alnassr-busquets-messi-28841342

Some say on their fan pages that Florentino Pérez would be saving him from going to play in a football that would not get any attention or something famous like Al Nassr, let's see what all this turns out to be.

But finally, the truth of everything was already known, CR7 is going to the Arab Club...

Cristiano Ronaldo 'rejected specific clause' before agreeing to £175m-a-year Al-Nassr deal



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And after failing to attract a Champions League suitor, the 37-year-old striker will soon start a new chapter with the Saudi giants.

Ronaldo was under contract at United until the end of the season after penning a two-year contract when he returned to Old Trafford in the summer of 2021.

The deal he is set to sign in the Middle East is similar and with good reason...

According to the Evening Standard, Ronaldo will only spend two seasons at Al-Nassr after verbally agreeing a contract worth around £175million per year.

Source: https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1715391/Cristiano-Ronaldo-rejected-clause-Al-Nassr-Man-Utd-transfer-news-gossip

Sometimes it is very difficult to say no to money, maybe now the Arab League will get a lot more audience, I think they started on a very good footing.
6110  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2022/23 Season on: December 31, 2022, 02:23:32 AM
In width, the EL has become stronger this season compared to last season. And then you also have a few remarkable matches with the current draw. It's a pity that a few good clubs are going to die now, but it gives the lesser teams the opportunity to move on to the next round. Last year the final in the EL was certainly not stronger than the one in the CL, that will be different this year. I can't even remember if Barcelona ever won the EL because they always play CL usually?
This season even looks almost the same if a comparison is made in terms of the teams that entered in these two competitions. This season's European League has matches that will be very interesting because several teams that failed in the Champions League have already gone down to the Europa League. However, that does not mean that in the Champions League there are no good and strong teams that will compete this season, because several teams that still look strong this season are still there.

Well, personally I think that this time the Europa League will be very exciting, it is obvious that some of the teams are quite well armed, but all the attention will be on Barcelona, which is the team that promises the most, just like Man United In general, these teams are giving a lot to talk about, Man United is the one that intrigues me the most because after what happened with CR7 it is very likely that there will be a lot of controversies, some players want to leave because the They did very well in the World Cup, especially the players from Portugal who have a lot of participation in the team. Also with a trainer like Ten Hag, I think many will want to leave.

Europa League matches will be so exciting to watch. From the looks of things, some clubs have already shown signs of weakness and these clubs may likely not qualify for the next stage. it's difficult to predict the winner between Manchester United vs Barcelona, Ajax vs Union Berlin, and Shakhtar Donetsk vs Rennes, others like Roma, Sporting, PSV, Juventus, and Monaco, Seem more dominating in this stage because from the fixtures, they seem to be the stronger side, and with that, they may likely qualify. But I see Arsenal as the next Europa league winners
It will be difficult to say which team will actually win these matches. Because the teams in each match are very strong. They will all want to qualify for the next round. Because of that, it can be said that the Europa League matches will be very competitive now.

The truth is that it is difficult to determine what can happen, because the teams that I think are stronger are Barcelona and Manchester United, but due to their big (different) problems that the teams have, it can have an impact on their way of playing, because the players when they feel that there are problems in their club there are many things that do not work well, there is no better thing than everything being fine and in harmony, in part I would like the teams to be 100% because that way it is much more enjoyable, instead if teams lose, they can say it was because of internal problems and all the excuses they can come up with.

Now in the Europa League a curiosity:

The major UEFA rule change to affect Mykhaylo Mudryk if he completes Arsenal transfer



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Despite the fact Mudryk featured for Shakhtar in the Champions League group phase, he would still be permitted to play for the Gunners from the round of 16 and onwards in the Europa League if he was to seal a big-money transfer in the upcoming January window.

This is because the ruling states: 'As of the round of 16, a club may register a maximum of three new eligible players for the remaining matches in the current competition. Such registration must be completed by 2 February 2023 (24.00CET) at the latest. This deadline cannot be extended.

'Any or all of the players from the above quota of three may have been fielded for another club in the qualifying phase, play-offs or group stage of the UEFA Champions League, UEFA Europa League or UEFA Europa Conference League.'

Source: https://www.football.london/arsenal-fc/transfer-news/uefa-rule-mudryk-arsenal-transfer-25541917
6111  Economy / Gambling / Re: chinese bookmakers with tf gaming platform NO KYC on: December 30, 2022, 03:33:04 PM
Well, it's good that we checked and found out that the site is not active.  And some even think that there are some scams.  This is certainly possible, simply because anything can happen in our world. 

But the question that interested me is this question: is there any alternative online casino that can be used from the territory of China?  Moreover, both the inhabitants of this country and visiting tourists can use it.  And at the same time there is no this damn KYC procedure? 
The question is important, China is a gigantic country, technologically advanced and has an insane number of gamblers.
 By the nature of my work, I visit different countries.  By the way, I will be in China soon.  This is the question I'm interested in.  If there is anyone from China.  Write how you can play online gambling from your country. 
Is it possible? 
Or it's illegal and it's better not to even try.  Because it might not be safe for you?
I think the last time I check this thread, the link was still working fine but now it doesn't work anymore. Oh well, that wasn't a loss to us and it's better actually that it shut down if they are truly suspicious. Scams can happen anywhere including in the field of crypto and gambling but there will always be a way to avoid them.

As for your question, I search if what is the status of gambling in China and found out that gambling is illegal on most parts of it but gambling in Macau is legal. Macau was even titled as the gambling capital before. Good luck by the way on your trip if you are planning to go on there soon. For now, you can play online casino. We have a lot of trusted casinos lying around in the forum and some don't require or mandate a KYC.
Yes, indeed I also did that same research a long time ago, in fact here on the forum there was a thread where they talked about Macao and all the options they had for the casinos, and for some it was an extreme freedom that was very useful for the casinos. big Chinese players and their whales, it is obvious that in a country as big as China there has to be gambling, I consider China one of the strongest countries in the world and that they should also be developed in every way, and this should include freedoms for people to be able to have fun as they want, as long as they don't hurt anyone, I think it should be a right, right?
6112  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Real most rewarding Crypto Casino? on: December 30, 2022, 02:56:46 PM
~ Well, I can see you point. If for someone it is more entertaining to treat gambling like business, let it be so. Indeed, free people can choose to entertain themselves however they want, unless other people don't suffer from it. Only if we start treating gambling like business, especially when playing purely luck-based games, we may possibly lose so much money that our close ones can be affected. And that's what I'm warning against.

But the topic is about finding those casinos that are "really most rewarding", not about whether we should treat gambling more for entertainment, or more "like a business". Plus I don't agree that because a user is trying to look for better casino rewards, he is simply treating gambling like a business. No, a user SHOULD always look for better rewards for losing all his money in the casinos. If the reward is not that good, why lose money there? Lose it where he/she will be rewarded better. Cool

If by "reward" you mean dopamine release in the brain, I totally agree with you, but if the reward is money, no. I insist that seeking for a "most rewarding Crypto Casino" is dangerous. Because you can "find" one and win a lot of money during your first several days of playing there, and it can be the beginning of disaster for you, if you don't know that gambling should never be treated like a way of making money.


I'm not debating you in what you're thinking, I was merely talking about OP's main points, in that he's looking for the casino that gives the best rewards whether or not the person is gambling for relaxation and entertainment, or if he/she is gambling for profit/treating it like a business.

I believe there's also a third type of gambler. Plebs like me who wants a challenge in mastering the game. That's why I'm playing only Craps because it's not entirely gambling. Craps is designed for strategy, it's not like Sic Bo.

I know, I'm not arguing with you either. Smiley What I wrote was intended at others who might read posts in this thread. I think it's very important to keep reminding people that they should never treat gambling as a way of making money. For me personally the most rewarding casino is where I take a break from my daily routine, and relax to such a degree that I can do my main job more effectively, making more money in a shorter period of time. That's what I'm trying to convey to people, gambling can help you with earning more money, but you should be earning money not through gambling, but through something 100% skill-based.

Well, I also agree with you, this occurred a lot at the end of 2020 and the beginning of 2021, when people thought only of entering the casino to make money, thinking that making money in the casino was something much easier than working, maybe Some have had enough luck trying that strategy, but others have not, others went to, which is not recommended to risk the money that will be used for basic things to risk in a casino, because in the event that you run out of money how would it be done? where can you get money from? I like to see the casino only as fun and spend the money that allows me to lose.

6113  Economy / Gambling / Re: Roobet.com | Crypto’s Fastest Growing Casino 🦘 on: December 30, 2022, 02:03:31 PM
If there are more than one people judging the contest then maybe there's nothing wrong with the decision made. Its just they have different taste to us and see the one they pick is more beautiful than our personal choice. If there's robot involvement towards the art submitted and it win maybe they should set some statement on why they choose it so that people will understand about the decision made.
I don't think there's any robot involvement in selecting these winners from the contest and the team might have some some selection criteria and I think they don't need to provide any statment why they selected those submissions as the answer is preety clear they find it more attractive or say creative in a way so we must provide our best and rest see whether we are selected or not keeping up the competition spirit.
Well, there will always be disagreements about these things, some criteria can be taken into account that one does not know, I personally do not know or have any idea how these things can be evaluated, and when it comes to art it is likely that it will leave me more in limbo I think those who won are deserving, and the Roobet team may have experts in this type of field, because to choose the best among the great arts that existed is something that I at least would not know what criteria to take, if at all Sometimes in valuations that have to do with works of art I usually take a long time due to the research that is done, this is something that every detail counts.

That's not going to happen anymore, no. The regulations for crypto are getting stricter and stricter all over the world, and this not only affects casinos but also exchanges. Exchanges must, for example, demand proof of origin for the deposited coins, if, for example, larger quantities come from unregulated casinos, they must not allow them to be deposited (and exchanged for USD, for example), otherwise they make themselves liable to prosecution.

In my opinion, the rather relaxed times of online crypto casinos are over and will not come back.
That's true. Recent debacles like the FTX crash and the Terra-LUNA crash made things worse for the cryptocurrency market on the whole and these are just a couple of reasons as to why regulations will keep increasing over time.

Despite these issues, it's good to see more and more new, legit crypto gambling sites emerging.
I am not entirely sure if we are only looking at just a bear market, we are looking at a crashed market that is crumbled right now and even injured if you like to call it that. We didn't just sell and the price went down, we are talking about a market that got hit by a lot of stuff and that causes it to be this low. Regulations are there to prevent these things, like if you invest your money into an exchange and trade there, regulations are there to prevent it from stealing your money.

Places that are accepted by governments, such as coinbase, would not be able to steal your money and that is the important thing to see in this situation, regulations do matter, and they are there to protect you.

I don't know whether to call what we are experiencing a bear market, because in the long term what seems to be in a period of re-accumulation, I am saying this from my personal analysis, in the short term I think that it could occur or be called as a period bearish, it really is something that can vary a lot.

With respect to those who have money in an exchange, be it coinbase or something similar, many no longer believe in having their money in exchanges, I think that Binance, due to its desire to have a lot of control over the market, is that they have not been able to do much and What they achieved was to scare off the holders, however for now if a bearish market is interpreted, it can be taken advantage of so that in Roobet you can bet and multiply it would be a very good option, taking into account the risk.
6114  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Casino games plebs like us must play on: December 30, 2022, 04:59:56 AM
So technically you are saying that gambling can be more ideal as a stress reliever than making a trade?. well it depends in trading if you have knowledge regarding the position you would like to do is you make the right time and proper preparation at the same time, if you execute the trade properly its good but if not you have a mistakes every thing right there has a lesson but in playing gambling is you just make a deposit, play and let the game you choose to decide if you are a winner or not, gambling is more stressful because you are just letting other people make your luck not yourself with your knowledge and skills.

IN my opinion gambling is much more stressful than day trading, I say this for the following reason: for example if a person takes 100$ and that person starts making sports bets, that person bets 10$, loses, bets others 10$ and loses again, bet on 10$ wins, but then goes back to bet on 10$ and loses again, this person will start to get stressed because he sees that his bankroll is reducing all the time, and he doesn't know how to reverse this situation, then panic starts to take over him, but when doing trade he will always put stop - loss and he can do hodl for some time until he has profit, then he will not have stress when doing trade

In my view you cannot really compare gambling and trading. Gambling should not be stressful, it is just a game and it has to be played for leisure, except pro-poker and the like. But trading is not a game, it is a real profession and done properly, is based on facts and analysis, a different thing is people trying to think of it as being a game. I would rather say it may be a profession.

Yes, in fact, for me trading is like a profession because it is being studied all the time and there are more and more cases in which more and more can be learned, in fact the large number of books that there are and the number of things that It has happened to many traders who consider themselves professionals, it is something to take into consideration, learning is unique, the game is as you say, just to have fun, except that in poker sometimes you need to have that touch of luck to win with more ease, in particular I really like poker, it is one of the most exciting games, but I must admit that sometimes one can feel pressured and stressed at the same time.
6115  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🎲BetFury.io|🎁XMAS PARTY for $1 200 000| Win Mercedes-Benz G-Class & Crypto😎 on: December 30, 2022, 04:18:53 AM
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According to how i understand binance listing to work, project are charged differently depending on their level of achievements and number of supporter/community backing the project, a project with really huge community stand a chance of getting their token  listed on binance for free, I think shiba inu is a good example .
And also a project which really solves real life problems and have achieved a great deal in building out their technology could also stand a chance of getting listed on binance for free or for a very minimal fee.
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This might be the case. While i think that Befury could have a bright future, they would need to step up their game for listing to Binance. Because i can find few obvious reasons why BFG couldn't get listed.

1. Future or endgame of BFG tokenomics is vague at best. We know thy are burning it now, but i haven't seen them committed to anything in the future. This is what troubles me most in the token.
2. Support team is transparent but core team itself remains opaque for reasons i don't even want to speculate, but it increases the overall shadiness.
3. No legal team.
what to pursue so that you force yourself to be listed on binance, we know the binance exchange is the largest crypto exchange, instead of burning a lot of money for listing on binance, they can use the money for development, marketing and other alternatives from on forced circumstances

Well, I think they have analyzed being on Binance and listing, but I think it is not convenient for them because obviously, the market is very low and if they enter with a token the price will go much lower, I think they could enter Binance at the moment that they think is convenient and the most convenient time is when bitcoin begins its bullish trend and this is something very difficult to predict, meanwhile the interest in topkens is going down little by little, and many people do not believe much in the BFG token I have seen how many have sold their tokens, and they are not very interested, I think that if they want to save this they have to make very radical strategies.


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Hard to get casino tokens listed on exchanges. There was a memorandum back in 2020 about it blockchain base games in which regulators need to add new rules because of the new technology underlying it. I was fairly watching one casino token where I have invested before which is the $HASH and a DEX had delisted them due to legal issues.

I haven't read anything like that, for that reason I didn't know that there is a law that prohibits exchanges from listing certain casino tokens, but I know that US laws are very strict in relation to tokens, exchanges, casinos, ICOs, DEFI and that's why reason many cryptocurrency exchanges and investments are not based in the US and put TOS prohibiting US citizens from investing, for example in the case of online casinos, I do not see any online casino saying that it has a US license and that US people can play freely, I only see online casinos having a license from curacao which has softer laws but now curacao wants to implement tougher laws for only online casinos

Curaçao to overhaul regime with new regulator, higher bars to entry


A new system will be set up, with licences for both B2C operators and B2B suppliers issued by the Curaçao Gaming Authority (CGA), an independent body set up by the government.

Licences will come with fees, as the government attempts to increase its direct revenue from the gambling sector.

this means that tougher times are coming, tougher KYC are coming, and casinos will have to start behaving well, even if now it is a much less harsh law than it should be, I believe that in the very near future we will see laws that oblige the government to carry out constant inspections of the casino and that casino owners do not remain anonymous

Im from Germany and Betfury site is also telling me since few weeks that access is denied for my region (mirror sites too). I can login with vpn (interestingly with french ip adress). So I dont trust this thing anymore and withdrew all my funds.
Does someone know an easy way to delete a Betfury account? I looked around but didnt find a delete account option. I think a good site should have one.

If you don't like some things on the Betfury platform, it's easier to leave your empty account as it is and don't worry about it. Thus if you change your mind after a while and decide to come back, you won't need to register again because Betfury doesn't block inactive accounts. At the same time, if you still have a strong desire to remove your account, the only way to do so is to send an email from your registered email address to Betfury customer support. At least it's stated on the ToS page.
I think the misbelieve or misconception of some gamblers is that deleting their account is also deleting their kyc documents from the casinos system or possession.

First, if a gambler operates an account that is not kyced, and at some point wishes not to continue with that account or the casino itself, just abandon the account, there is no need stressing the customer support with message requesting you account to be deleted.

Second, if gambler operates an account that is kyced and decides to stop using the account or the casino, asking the casino to close or delete your account does not mean they no longer has access to the documents you submitted for kyc verification, it is still with them and it is in their discretion to keep it or throw it away. 
So it's obvious. 
Of course, all the data of any person who has passed the KYC procedure remains in the databases of the casino or in general of any institution where you were required to verify the KYC procedure.  Now this is so often required that almost anyone is already identified by KYC in many places on the network. 
Moreover, I think that in general there is already a confidential exchange of information about specific people, even despite the prohibitions on the dissemination of personal data.  Thus, personal data is "cleaned".  And that's it  - you already know exactly who he is and where, on which site something was hidden or incorrectly and deliberately written. 

Alas, we are all already "under the hood" of "Big Brother" Angry

this issue of where our data is kept and whether it is safe or not is a question that has kept anyone up at night, the truth is that no one is comfortable giving their data to someone anonymous, remembering that your proof of residence has it your home address, so that makes it easier for scammers besides you to steal money at the casino he can also get to your house and steal and kill you, that's because if the scammers see that you are a big whale in his casino so he already knows that in the real world you have a lot of money. are things that scare

Sometimes it is counterproductive because the USA is supposed to have much more freedom, but I think that in the same regulations that they put in context it limits a lot, I have a friend in the USA who only uses stake.us and he is delighted, but still he You want to try other casinos and you can't, so what I think is the following, too much freedom is actually a limitation? So it is safe to have so many protection mechanisms for users or else it becomes a double-edged sword. In the end, I don't know which will be better if it is to be in that protection or limit it to the fun mode, of course everything changes when they are physical casinos.
6116  Economy / Gambling / Re: What else should an established crypto casino add? on: December 30, 2022, 03:51:45 AM
Have you already evaluated the option of placing sports bets? I also wanted to add that if they can have the option of having local soccer, be it Brazilian soccer, Argentine soccer, Colombian soccer, the Turkish league, championships like the Copa Libertadores de América, all this that has a lot to do with the South American soccer, I know that the leagues that are most famous are those of Europe, but in South America they are very grown with soccer and the bets that are handled are quite large, I say it from the point of view that they can grow and take that business and that they can enter in a very subjective way, so that they can have that market for you.
6117  Economy / Gambling / Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding? on: December 30, 2022, 03:17:32 AM
Is web 3 a misunderstanding word for some gambling crypto projects? I've come across few gambling / crypto projects that claimed to be a web 3.0 online casino and other but they still ask for KYC.

The definition of web 3.0 had everything to do with decentralization, block chain technology and token based economics as per what Wikipedia illustrated so why is identity/ verification integrated?

Is this just a misunderstanding of what web 3 actually is? Or it's a way to attract people/users to make them think that their platform is more advanced?.
Probably, it’s one way to make people believed that it’s different from others and to attract more users and let them experience by themselves. Although I would say that the operators have research about web3, but so far I have not experienced this yet, and maybe some operators have wanted to adopt it and are still making some preparations to finally realize it in the future.
When we do speak about web 3 casino then it would be particularly meaning into this.

Web3 Casino ecosystem is a fusion of Businesses between Casino, sports betting, NFT and Decentralized crypto wallets or Dapps. Is an idea for a new iteration of the gambling which incorporates concepts such as decentralization, blockchain technologies, and token-based economics.

Source

If people do see that its still that still centralized then its really totally opposite on how it should be.

Basically with this it encompasses everything conceptual in terms of casinos and what many people are looking for, they find it in a single casino all the functionalities, there are casinos that currently take advantage of the NFT technology, and also take advantage of the technology with respect to tokens, This is something that can be very significant, but in terms of functionality, in terms of centralized or decentralized systems, you can choose the best things that the client likes. Of course, this is an alternative to what could occur before the metaverse or in what which can be a preamble before the metaverses (if given) to be able to have more breadth in everything.

6118  Economy / Gambling / Re: Researching for Upcoming Game on: December 30, 2022, 02:50:11 AM
- What are some current pain points in the crypto gaming/gambling space for players?
- What would you like to see?
- What makes one game fun to play -- more so than other competitors that have similar games

I think these kinds of questions should already be a basic thing for gambling owners that wants to establish a gambling site as long as those involved in running it are knowledgeable already about anything related to gambling.

The ones that need to be taken care of are those feedback and reviews once the site now started operation.

Though to give some main concerns, crypto-gamblers don't like the idea of mandatory KYC and obviously, deposits and withdrawals should be smooth. The assigned forum representatives should also be dedicated to their work here and always keep in touch with the community.

I think that the biggest weakness of a player, whether in a crypto space or not, is the generation of money, if a player knows that he is not profitable with his game, he will be demoralized when he plays, he should not do it anymore, at least in that game, but I see the biggest weakness in not understanding why gambling was invented, everyone says or believes that this was invented to make quick money and gains without effort, and as for that I know that some people are lucky enough to do it, It is not like that, because whoever goes to a casino with the idea of getting rich from now to now, I believe that they will fail and for me that is the greatest weakness and this is people.
6119  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in-$200 FreeBTC⭐Win Lambo🔥0.2BTC DailyJackpot🏆$32,500 Wager Contest on: December 30, 2022, 02:25:30 AM
It's quite good to bet on p2p style, but for this game it looks like what people think is not what I think Cheesy. That is good, because the more they spend their money on one side, the more money I will be able to make from the other side.

If you compare odds on freebitco with the ones on other 'real' sites, managed by house, you will see that there are many differences. Sometimes it makes betting on freebitco not attractive at all (of course if you look at odds only, not on fact that you spend and win BTC, not FIAT). Even recently someone posted example where odds on freebitco were much lower than on other booking sites.
And of course you never know if 5 minutes before betting closes all the odds not change as some whales place their bets.
I agree, sometimes it is really interesting to place bets on freebitco.in (one example is the outright bets in tennis for the grandslams); but in other cases (like for this worldcup), it was not so interesting to place bets here as the odds were lower. You always need to compare the odds between freebitco.in and the other bookies.

Well, the fees at freebitco.in may turn out to be low compared to other platforms, but there may be many other reasons. The other platforms could have sports betting as their best business model and take advantage of the World Cup boom, in addition to the fact that most of the World Cup matches have turned out to be a total surprise, this causes the bets to increase, and of course all this collided With Christmas, so Christmas promos have been minimized or they can be mixed with each other, this is something that can be taken into consideration to be exploitable or not, we all know that freebitco.in is very famous for its dice game, and their multiplier, I think they focus a lot more on it, well I'm just speculating, it may not be so.


yes i think also it is one of the whales that is in freebitcoin maybe, so there is no problem to get a little prize even though he has to spend a lot of money to buy a ticket, it's just that he hasn't been lucky for the last week who knows the previous week he was often lucky to get the lottery weekly, this weekly lottery is really based on luck not everyone who has a lot of tickets can win it  Wink

We don't know if he bought the tickets also, it could all come from referrals or when playing on the Hi-Lo game or betting on some sports events. In the end it can also just be a nice little bonus for him.
As you say, the lottery solely depends on luck and there is only one thing for sure: if you have 0 tickets than you will never win lol  Grin.

That's the whole truth, that reminds me of a very fabulous lottery that is from around here, called the Kino, many millions were won and many people dreamed of winning the Kino, but there were many who said they wanted to win the Kino but they didn't even play it, so those things are what people say daydream about and do nothing to achieve it, that's what happens at freebitco.in, personally I always buy a ticket, nothing more than 1, if I were a whale It is obvious that he had a greater advantage than normal, for statistics alone it is something that one can see that there may be more possibilities, at a mathematical level there will always be an advantage, of course, luck is something unique.

6120  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Go-to casino on: December 29, 2022, 08:54:09 PM
Basically I don't have any casino held at heart, once you're good and fair with your services, then we're good to go.
There are qualities I look at for in a casino before trying to make a deposit on them and those qualities include
• minimum deposit and withdrawal
• users reviews on the site
• years of service
• licensing etc.
Though I love to try new casinos regularly maybe because I want some nice Bonuses but I'm always conscious of myself when trying out this new casinos.
I just love dog race for virtuals and soccer bettings .
I think as gamblers, we all have certain casinos that we usually see as good to go since we have already proven their reputation and worth throughout the years. Although there's still an urge to visit and play with newly-opened casinos but thinking that our deposits might not get its worth, then its best to just keep coming back and play with our trusted casinos.
That is very true, I understand that there are many things and criteria that some players take into account, some are just slot machine lovers, it should be noted that I was a very habitual player who only played daos and sometimes poker, as well as black jack , but thanks to the threads of Bitcasino.io, stake.com, where many players posted their winnings and that is something that motivated me a lot to play and that was what encouraged me a lot to try and try more slots, and play with little balance, then what I achieved was that every time I play slots I just like the fact of playing and having fun, I am not looking to win, of course if a big win comes it is very welcome.

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