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6121  Other / Off-topic / Re: The Bitcoin FTP - Share your media with fellow Bitcoiners! on: March 27, 2011, 04:03:37 AM
Is this on your home machine?
6122  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Transaction Fees on: March 27, 2011, 03:59:17 AM
The .01 BTC transaction fee is probably because this is what the system requires to send if the amount sent is less than .01 BTC.  This fee exists to make transaction spammers pay for the act of cramming a block.  Are you certain you didn't enter the amount too small?

I wonder if the daemon translates the user entry into the raw bitcoin number by default, if it takes the input without 'moving' the decimal point.
6123  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Would you support moving to a system with controled inflation? on: March 27, 2011, 03:53:11 AM
Miners will ultimately charge a transaction fee that allows them to continue operating profitably

The problem is that miners can't make anybody pay it, and if they don't pay it, operating profitably is not a choice.  Their only choices are to operate non-profitably, or to stop operating.
They don't have to make anyone pay it.  There will be those who are willing to pay it for the advantages that it holds.  The 'free' section of the block is very limited, and in a successful future, very few people will be willing to wait for those free transactions to process, as they could take weeks in a future that Bitcoin processes at a rate comparable to Visa.
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The buzz has been that Bitcoin is good for micropayments, but then there is the whole 'snack-machine' problem having to do with the amount of time it takes for confirmaitons, etc

Bitcoin's block chain won't be suitable for snack machines or micropayments long term.  It's simply not resource effective.  You don't have a kilobyte of disk space or internet bandwidth to dedicate to each pack of gum sold everywhere in the world, let alone every snack.  A billion people probably buy a snack every day... that's a terabyte per day every full Bitcoin client must download and dedicate just to storing snack transactions.  So considerations made towards speeding up confirmations on the block chain are just preparation for something that won't happen because it's impossible on its face.  Only a "mybitcoin"-type bank can enable snack machine transactions and micropayments, by accounting for them internally, isolating them from the block chain except in the aggregate as wholesale settlement transactions.

Bitcoin is actually pretty crappy for micropayments, but variations on the online wallet service isn't the only way to do instant small value sales.  The double spend attack is relatively difficult to pull of, due to timing issues, so it's very unlikely that anyone is going to attempt it for a free soda and a bag of chips.  Even so, a vending machine client can reduce it's own exposure to such an attack in a couple of different ways.  Blockchain confirmations aren't even important in this context, as the transaction (once verified for validity) can be accepted at face value with as much confidence as it can accept a quarter dropped in the change slot isn't a slug.  Honestly, it's just a machine, and can't know; but the vending owner includes a risk premium to cover his own backside.

I personally know someone who owns a number of vending machines and video games at a few local bars, I need to have a talk with him about Bitcoin.  It might be time to put theory into action.
6124  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Would you support moving to a system with controled inflation? on: March 27, 2011, 03:36:49 AM
If we move to an inflationary model with miners always getting 50btc for solving a block, this will lead to a single interest controlling the majority of the network.

Is there any particular reason for this conclusion?

I have a second, so I'll go into a little more detail:
With miners getting 50btc per block ad infinitum we end up creating an exponential earnings curve. Whoever is ahead on that curve will eventually see their lead greatly exaggerated such that the majority of bitcoins created each day will be created by their cluster. This will be accompanied by their overshadowing the power of the rest of the network. They will comprise over 50% of the total network's computing power which, as I understand, is all that is necessary to create a hostile takeover.

Okay, girlfriend is pulling me away. Let me know if I'm barking up the wrong tree here.

Thanks!

Too many outside variables to know if this would actually happen.
6125  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin Failure is likely on: March 27, 2011, 03:31:01 AM

Quote from: chodpaba
The rules by which our money operates are set by privately owned central banks.

right.............. didn’t know they were privately owned.........


The are, in fact, private banks operating under a government charter.  So, by definition, they are privately owned.  The idea that they are owned by the public in any context is false.
6126  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Any interest in hand forged knives, letter openers that sort of thing? on: March 27, 2011, 02:56:30 AM
can we have some pics of your forge?  Grin
I tried my hand at knife smithing a few years back. lots of burns and swear words  Cheesy

whats your price for a high carbon Straight Razor?
I wont be able to buy because it needs to be blunt to make it through customs (bastards) but I'd like to know anyway.

I've been looking at straight razors, that would be intense to get one custom.
+1
6127  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: An anonymous bitcoin-operated mail service on: March 27, 2011, 12:34:05 AM
Secret mail service = instant terrorist threat = no go.

Such a thing does exist, but it happens to be pretty expensive.
6128  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: An estimate of fpga performance on: March 26, 2011, 04:00:36 PM

At the same time your results do seem rather better than what I thought can be had on both hash/watt hash/$ . I'd say if you manage to perfect your design, order ASIC fabrication and turn in into some device for sha256 and bitcoin mining this would sell well, not only to bitcoiners but to various spooks too.


If someone were to develop such an ASIC and put it on a small SOC, and networked a bunch in a ribbon, they would make great heat trace cabling for water lines.  Parking garages (which still have to have fire suppression systems) have heat trace wrapped around water lines and mains, which are then insulated over that.  These water lines have to be heated continuously anytime the outside temp is below 35 degrees, so that cold spots don't freeze & bust the water lines.

I considered making a Linux cluster like this about 10 years ago, but never did anything with the idea.  These might sell well in high latitudes.
6129  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is Bitcoin subject to a "Hostile TakeOver" ? on: March 26, 2011, 03:52:22 PM
It's a scary thought that it could be manipulated easily enough if you want to throw 5+ million at it.
Keep in mind though that the cost it would take to ruin Bitcoin is proportional to the size of the Bitcoin economy. Nobody in the federal government cares enough about the Bitcoin economy right now to do anything about it. They might care if it were a hundred times as large, but in that case, it would cost them a hundred times more to disrupt it.
all the more reason for them to do it now. I'm sure they could push the mining difficulty into the stratosphere at the same time too taking the miners out of the equation and keeping all the mined coins off the market aswell

Bureaucracies may be heavy-handed, but they are also slow and dense. It is much more likely that someone would throw a botnet at it 'just to see what happens'.

That has probably already happened, perhaps more than once.  That would be one reasonable cause of the spike and drop in hashing power about two weeks ago.
6130  Economy / Marketplace / Re: USA residents; Are you near to a national bank branch? on: March 26, 2011, 06:05:08 AM
National or almost national banks are all over in the United States. Where I live, there is a national bank located in almost every location of a big regional grocer (owned by a national chain), and they have a few standalone branches too; I'd say they have more than ten locations within ten miles of me just by themselves. Big banks are very common in the US.

Actually, there is no such thing as a national bank in the true sense.  Banks must be within a given state, and even when there are identical bank branches across state lines, they are legally two different bank networks.  I've run into this before, when I used to work in Cincinnati and live in Kentucky.  In order for me to have funds on both sides of the border at my favored bank, I had to have two checking accounts, and they had different routing numbers.  I would literally have to wire funds to myself, which was a pain in the ass.  It's some kind of interstate commerce law.  It often took more than a week for my paycheck to clear, for this exact reason.
6131  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Any interest in hand forged knives, letter openers that sort of thing? on: March 26, 2011, 05:54:30 AM
I have a small collection of custom knives, and would be very interested in what you have to offer.  Are single piece knives all that you make, or do you make folders?  Right now, I'm looking for a small folding pocket knife for my daughter's 11th birthday.

She got her Marlin rifle at eight, which really got a rise out of my mother, but that stays in the gunsafe.  I think that she's ready for some real responsibility.  Any recommendations from the forum?  What kind of pocketknife would you buy for an 11 year old girl?

TBH, I wouldn't give my daughter a pocket knife, responsible or not, accidents can happen, and she is not equipped to know what to do in those situations...

Actually, that's the point.  Accidents do happen, and I want her to learn how to deal with them while she is young enough to experience them while we are still there to be able to step in if need be.  Small cuts from a small two inch blade aren't going to get her killed, but never learning how to handle dangerous tools before adulthood just might.  It's like teaching a child about the hazards of water; is it better to teach a child to stay away from the pool, or to teach the child how to swim?
6132  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Any interest in hand forged knives, letter openers that sort of thing? on: March 26, 2011, 05:48:10 AM
I have a small collection of custom knives, and would be very interested in what you have to offer.  Are single piece knives all that you make, or do you make folders?  Right now, I'm looking for a small folding pocket knife for my daughter's 11th birthday.

She got her Marlin rifle at eight, which really got a rise out of my mother, but that stays in the gunsafe.  I think that she's ready for some real responsibility.  Any recommendations from the forum?  What kind of pocketknife would you buy for an 11 year old girl?

Unfortunately I do not currently make any folders.

Does she do outdoors stuff right now?

No, she doesn't.  She's an urban child, but I grew up with a Swiss Army knife and used it daily; and have carried a series of 'multitools' (currently a Leatherman Wave I've had for ten years) which I use daily.  I tell my kids that the ability to recognize and use basic technology is what sets humanity apart from the remainder of the animal kingdom.  My wife objected to me wearing my "belt tools" to church (multitool & small holstered flashlight) until after 9/11.  Once the story about how one guy lead his entire office floor out of the dark building using an Indiglow watch, I said, "see!  Imagine how many more could have survived if they simply had a flashlight!"

I've worn my "belt tools" everywhere I go since that day.  I've literally never left my house without them, even having to check them before entering the courthouse on a couple occasions.

About a year ago, I heard about a case wherein an elderly woman got her excessively long scarf caught in an escalator, and was strangled in a panic because there was no one in earshot who had a pocketknife.
6133  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Governments and Bitcoin on: March 26, 2011, 05:34:02 AM

And for anyone else out there who thinks anarchism leaves something to be desired--stick around!  You're not the only one.  We need you because the way bitcoin actually succeeds is not as some fringe project of the libertarian community (no offense to the hundreds of toes I just stepped on there Smiley ) but as a truly world-changing technology that encompasses people from many different points of view.  Bitcoin won't succeed unless non-anarchists accept it and that's pretty much that.


You were doing fine until you conflated anarchism and libertarianism.  For the record, they are not the same.  Ideologically speaking, an anarchist is one who believes that he can govern himself, and that all individuals can rationally do so as well.  A libertarian is someone who believes that government is an evil that attracts the worst kind of person to be trusted with it's power; but that it is a necessary evil, and that there is a few minimum functions of government that are legitimate, and the kind of people who shouldn't be trusted are also the same kind of people that tend to be very good at actually performing those core functions so long as they can be restrained in expanding the scope of their authorities.  (i.e. sociopaths make great generals, but crappy overlords)

Personally, I'm of the latter camp.  I can see the potential for success in anarchism, but I can also see the potential for an epic failure.  I believe that violence is not a legitimate means of social or political change, but I also believe that there is such a thing as justifiable use of force, either collectively or individually.  I also believe that the founders went through this same kind of discovery process; which is why they chose to replace the Articles of Confederation with the US Constitution. moving from an almost anarchist society of states to a more uniform, but more restrictive, libertarian state.  Not a perfect example of either, mind you.

Still, even as I contest the idea that anarchy is sustainable, I can accept that it is possible; and perhaps one day technologies that we can't even imagine today will make a stable anarchy a reality.  That could only come if technologies make the primary functions of governments obsolete.  But as we have all witnessed over the past 20 years, we can't really fathom what may yet be.

If Neal Stephenson is to be believed (and I am one to wonder if the man is really a technological prophet, not a sci-fi writer) then the emergence of a digital, anonymous and distributed monetary system is the technical precursor to an entirely different form of political association, based upon voluntary social and cultural identities, as opposed to to geographical association and imaginary lines on a map. 

Time will tell.
6134  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Any interest in hand forged knives, letter openers that sort of thing? on: March 26, 2011, 04:56:30 AM
I have a small collection of custom knives, and would be very interested in what you have to offer.  Are single piece knives all that you make, or do you make folders?  Right now, I'm looking for a small folding pocket knife for my daughter's 11th birthday.

She got her Marlin rifle at eight, which really got a rise out of my mother, but that stays in the gunsafe.  I think that she's ready for some real responsibility.  Any recommendations from the forum?  What kind of pocketknife would you buy for an 11 year old girl?
6135  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Another Newbie with Questions on: March 25, 2011, 10:15:33 PM
Any financial system can be damaged by someone willing to destroy a massive amount of their own wealth. But self-interest usually discourages people from doing so.

Nice quote, obviously the bigger  the economy the more money you need.  Anyone with the figures on hand and the brain to do the math want to figure out what would happen to the USD if Bill Gates burned all his or decided to inject it in to the economy. We can pretend that he has liquid cash for whatever his net worth is. Obviously his liquid capital is a lot less.

If he were to sell all of his investments, convert to cash, and burn it all in a public pyre; then all of the remaining cash in existance would be, temporarily, slightly more valuable.  Not to any extent that would be noticable, however, and only for however long it took the Fed to replicate those destroyed bills.

As for injecting it into the economy, that is exactly what he does with most of it.  That's what investing is.
6136  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Hi I'm new, I have a few quick questions on: March 25, 2011, 10:09:57 PM
Hey, since this is the "new" thread (of which I still consider myself), why would you need a username/password for solo mining? 

You don't.  My client has never asked for that.
6137  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is Bitcoin subject to a "Hostile TakeOver" ? on: March 25, 2011, 10:08:38 PM
I think that you guys are forgeting an important point about Bitcoin.

It's not a US centric system.  Just because the US government might choose to stamp it out, doesn't mean that it dies in Russia or New Zealand.
6138  Other / Off-topic / Re: NEW: Bitcoin Fractional Reserve Bank on: March 25, 2011, 10:03:32 PM

-Let's say Black deposits 100BTC at Bitcoin Bank A.
-Bank A gives Black access to an on-demand deposit account with 100 BTC maintained on Bank A's database.
-Brown wants to start a business and needs capital.
-Bank A 'lends' 100BTC to Brown by creating a second on-demand deposit account controlled by Brown with 100 BTC.
-Bank A thus keeps 100 BTC on reserve for 200 BTC of on-demand deposit accounts (50% reserve).
you seem to have an incorrect understanding of fractional reserve, more specifically, of what the 'reserve' percentage means.
in the case you describe, having 100btc deposit, and lending out all 100btc, you end up with 0% reserve, not 50%. A bank cannot lend out more btc than it actually has.

please consult the following for more details:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fractional-reserve_banking

I think that you are both arguing on the same side, but from different perspectives.
6139  Economy / Economics / Re: Inflation is... on: March 25, 2011, 10:02:02 PM
This is still all related to inflation. In the U.S. Food prices had the largest jump since 1974. Granted there are many reasons for this, but why just Food that had the largest jump in price? Not cell phones, not cars, not TVs, but Food. There is an underlying cause.

Food and energy both had a large jump.  The prices in consumer products are lagging as compared to oil, because they were made with last summer's oil.  We see the prices in food rise quicker, in part, because nearly everything that we eat takes a great deal of energy to transport from where it is grown, to where it is processed, to where it is sold.  We will see prices rise in consumer goods if the current oil price maintains it's present levels.
6140  Economy / Economics / Re: Inflation is... on: March 25, 2011, 09:29:23 PM
There is more space for man under water in Earth oceans than in the rest of solar system.


What do you base this upon?  Are you assuming surface area of geoengineerable planets?  Because I seriously doubt this is accurate.

87.3% of statistics found on Internet forums are made up on the spot.

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Not to mention that energy required to settle oceans is by 2 orders of magnitude less.


Again, based upon what?
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