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6141  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 12, 2017, 03:37:41 AM
dude...you ARE on the WO thread

got to keep the standards up
6142  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 12, 2017, 03:32:22 AM
HOOKER SPEED!

6143  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 12, 2017, 03:04:40 AM

I'm sorry, but I can not understand it. I do not understand the logic behind that.
I know that it is very annoying to quote Satoshi, but his original idea was that anyone could make a transansation with another, without the need of a third party; He even talked about small payments. I understand that his words are not absolute truths, and that he may also have made mistakes, but, that is far from wanting to convert bitcoin into a tool of a new plutocracy, in a type of money that only new oligarchs can use. That's what I have trouble understanding.
And maybe they are right, maybe it does not collapse, and we see the birth of a new economy and oligarchy, but not different from the previous ones in ethical terms.

No

I am sorry.

I mistook you for our garden variety troll, and I apologize.  I see now that you have an actual concern, one I share as a matter of fact. 

You bring up a valid point.  I can see how my attitude displayed above could be seen as every bit as distasteful as the bigblocker "if you don't have $20,000 [to spend on a full node] to help this network then fuck you".

I sincerely wish that the scaling debate could have remained civil...but this is the world we live in, and I am not prepared to cede control of the potentially most liberating technology ever conceived to the current big block cabal.

Yes, a microtransaction crypto implementation would be nice, perhaps Litecoin, perhaps L2/offchain solutions...but not shoddy, untested and hastilly implemented code on THIS blockchain...NO, the market has said no.
6144  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 12, 2017, 02:11:28 AM
Yes, and it appears his friend, Jihan Wu is sticking it to the people using their Hashnest cloud mining. They set a really lowball fee for BTC withdrawals, so it is taking days for people's withdrawals to finally get confirmed. It appears Bitmain's response to a support ticket is that their transaction fee is fixed at 20,000 sats.

Or maybe the problem is that the network is about to collapse. There is tx with 20 dollars in fees that took hours or even days to confirm.
In the forum there are more and more comments on the same subject. But no, here you want to hide the elephant blaming the same guys as always, repeating the same arguments. Jihan is to blame, Roger is to blame, spam attacks are to blame.

Is that nobody here is able to see it? Will they continue to act as if nothing happens, even if the transactions cost $ 50 or $ 100?

When will it be more expensive to send a transaction than to maintain a node?

dude

nobody cares

$20?  WTAF?  $50...$100 who cares?

Will I gladly pay a $100 fee on a $100,000 transaction?

ALL

DAY

LONG!

and twice on Sundays

BTC is not for pissant transactions, get it through your head...jesus
6145  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 11, 2017, 10:51:58 PM
public service announcement

https://hackaday.com/2017/12/11/what-you-need-to-know-about-the-intel-management-engine/#more-285225

keep your eye on the ball kids
6146  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 11, 2017, 08:40:05 PM
my god the salt on my non crypto forums...

the butthurt of late adopters is sweet, sweet nectar
6147  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 11, 2017, 08:02:36 PM


Roach is the only one in this thread worth listening to frankly.



behold

this is the field where I grow my ignore list
6148  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 11, 2017, 06:38:23 PM
The meme and word "HODL" came from a misspelling of "hold" posted in a whiskey fueled rant four years ago this month in 2013 on BitcoinTalk. Sellers were panic selling as the market crashed from $900 to $700. HODL was good advice.

https://twitter.com/brucefenton/status/940205591951179776


Actually...

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=375643.0;topicseen

I was on that night, GameKyuubi was hilarious.

I keep that thread "marked as unread" so I can go back anytime and laugh my ass off all over again.

Have never realised I was the first person to LOL at HODL  Cool

o7

6149  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 11, 2017, 05:43:03 PM


BTCBTC heading up again i think 20K is still possible before new yeerzzz :-D weeee

Don't know where you are looking but it's again in a down move (-700 eur) since about 10 hours after recovering the dip.

Further, I don't like the look of this slow round off one bit...looks like exhaustion.
6150  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 11, 2017, 04:54:04 PM
The meme and word "HODL" came from a misspelling of "hold" posted in a whiskey fueled rant four years ago this month in 2013 on BitcoinTalk. Sellers were panic selling as the market crashed from $900 to $700. HODL was good advice.

https://twitter.com/brucefenton/status/940205591951179776


Actually...

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=375643.0;topicseen

I was on that night, GameKyuubi was hilarious.

I keep that thread "marked as unread" so I can go back anytime and laugh my ass off all over again.
6151  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 11, 2017, 04:17:55 PM

I'm reading Snow Crash right now.

careful

Snow Crash is like a gateway drug, soon the weighty tomes will be piling up.
6152  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 11, 2017, 06:44:29 AM
TO DA MUN!

6153  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 11, 2017, 05:10:58 AM
ZH top story

Quote
Bitcoin Futures Top $18,000, Soar 20% From Open - Halted for Second Time

A crashed exchange website, a volatility-surge halt, and now alimit up halt (20%) all in a few hours of the launch of the world's first cryptocurrency futures contract...

welcome to Bitcoin motherfuckers   Cool
6154  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 11, 2017, 04:42:48 AM
Personally, I came from a PM background so had a healthy hatred of that fiat trash already.  I also had recently read Neal Stephenson's Baroque Cycle, a monumental work of historical fiction that deals with the nature of money and cryptrography that I would strongly recommend hodlers to read.  So my response to discovering Bitcoin was more like "OMFG... ... ...an IMPLEMENTATION!!!"
6155  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 10, 2017, 11:26:33 PM
Someone ddos attack www.cboe.com or what? Website is down indefinitely.

welcome to Bitcoin motherfuckers   Cool
6156  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 10, 2017, 11:11:41 PM
6157  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 10, 2017, 11:06:34 PM
HELM   ENGAGE ONE MINUTE CANDLES!
6158  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 10, 2017, 09:44:22 PM
You know what’s hilarious ? That tiny dip would have just missed triggering a trading halt under CME rules.   Wall Street traders going to spend most of their time sitting in the naughty corner.

6159  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 10, 2017, 09:11:00 PM
Do we actually expect any sudden action today from the futures stuff?

Single digits in 3 hours, is what I heard.  Seemed legit.

confirmed

6160  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 10, 2017, 07:51:27 PM
I'm liking the look of this chart.
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