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6161  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2022/23 Season on: September 15, 2022, 12:09:22 PM
I support the Turkish teams tonight.

I think Fenerbahce have a chance to win because they are playing well and they have rested in their own league this week.
Score: 1-0

Trabzonspor can get a point tonight, but they will have a hard time for it.
Fenerbahce will play away and even the opponent is Rennes it is not an easy opponent, if the reason is only having time off in the local league I don't think it's guaranteed. You can consider how the Premier League teams were in the Champions League yesterday, they obviously got a break too but they still find it difficult to get a win. Moreover it is Fenerbahce who are also not doing well in the local league, but Rennes look better in the local league which of course their odds are clear where Rennes really are the favourites.
6162  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2022/23 on: September 15, 2022, 10:24:02 AM
You can consider athletico madrid as weak not as tough as Real Madrid but that doesn't mean it will be easy for Real Madrid to defeat athletico madrid.  Athletico madrid is not a toy team, it is one of the team in laliga that Real Madrid can't just easily beat. It can even surprise you that athletico may play the game very tough what Real Madrid may realise at the end of the game will be a draw, Real Madrid still have a higher chance of winning the game.
Toy team  Roll Eyes

I have never read anyone call Athletico Madrid as a toy team. You are so creative with words.  Grin

It's a derby and two Madrids don't want to lose in a derby. In a bigger picture, they are competing for La Liga title, together with Barcelona. Therefore this match has a lot of meanings for them, a derby and a direct clash for La Liga trophy. 3 points from this match are similar to 6 points because a winner has 3 points and a loser lose 3 points. In addition, winner will destroy the mentality of the loser as well.
Haha, who thinks of Atletico as a toy team? and also, the derby match is not to fight for the title but to maintain the prestige to remain the best. Derby matches often occur where both teams are far in the standings but their match is still interesting because it is titled a derby, so the derby match is not about fighting for the title but only prestige. But regarding their current performance it is clear, Atletico are experiencing a decline in performance but in contrast to Real Madrid who are still consistent on the winning path. With a performance difference like this, Real Madrid still has a better chance, but that doesn't mean they think Atletico are a toy team. Cheesy
6163  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season on: September 15, 2022, 09:44:58 AM
Benfica and Napoli performed very well earlier this season... To be honest I thought Juventus could beat Benfica, but they failed to do so at home... Most likely the return game will also be a close game... I think PSG and Benfica will be able to go on from this group as the strongest clubs, but Juventus will have a chance to fight for the chance to make it out of the group!
It can be seen from overall performance by juventus compared with benfica from several matches. Benfica is far superior compared with juventus. I have predicted if benficat will win against juventus based on the statistics of performance from both of team. From here we see which one that has better team.
Benfica is far better compared with juventus. Im sure that PSG and benfica will pass to the next stage caused by these team become very consistent at this moment. The chance for juventus pass to the next stage is quite small.
I don't think juventus can make it.
It's sad indeed, the team that was originally the favorite to place second but in reality only became a complementary team to the group. The only way for Juventus to improve is to have a new coach, if Juventus still retain Massimiliano Allegri then of course Juventus will not qualify for the next round. Even though Juventus can score goals quickly but unfortunately, they will be satisfied quickly when they have a goal until finally, they continue to get pressure from Ajax players in that match.
6164  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: September 15, 2022, 08:55:15 AM
It's unbelievable that Chelsea can not defeat Salzburg for the match the score about 15 minutes after the second half, assuming other players strike like sterling the goal would have be more than one goal but the things is that James is fail to play the match with confidence, and even when sterling score the goal i thought that either Chelsea players will defend the goal for enable them to win or give another goal, not knowing that Salzburg will equalize the match, Chelsea players need serious practice and orientation before match to make sure that they protect their goal by playing defensive game immediately they scored and especially second half
If Chelsea becomes worse in performance I will not blame Chelsea , because it is not easy for a team that has been struggling that recently have a new coach to start performing in the best way. This point where Chelsea is I won't be surprised if Chelsea fails to defeat weak teams. After the sacked of Thomas Tuchel I never hoped  that with the new coach Chelsea will starts performing better immediately,  it will take some time for Chelsea to get better.
Agreed, I don't think Tuchel's sacking is the best way because basically with Tuchel already loving or liking being at Chelsea then over time Tuchel will certainly do a good job of improving Chelsea's performance. So a draw I think it's still a good result, instead of losing it's better to draw isn't it and also, if they believe Graham Potter is the right coach then they have to accept the process. It's not easy to build a team, but if the opponent is a team of lower quality then surely it won't take them long to make a good team.
6165  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2022/23 on: September 14, 2022, 04:58:42 PM
Yes, Real Madrid learned from their past mistakes in the beginning of last season that made them to get it right at the end of the tournament. I think, Real Madrid performance in this season is giving their fans so much joy, because they always achieved victory from any competition in this season that made many people to predicted for their favour because it hard them to loose their game. If Real Madrid can maintain their tactics they are using in this season, I think they will definitely win this season title because their strikers and midfielders are very good to take the team to her next level in this season.

There's something different about Real Madrid between this season and the season before
Where winning streak or unbeaten is Ancelotti's club when they haven't met real rivals Barcelona or Atletico Madrid, at least I'll have an opinion on Real Madrid's quality next week when they visit to the Wanda Metropolitano to meet Atletico Madrid.
Will the winning streak still be with Real Madrid next week? We'll see it soon
Atlético's performance this season has not improved so I personally really believe Real Madrid will be able to win the match. At least under these conditions Real Madrid will not make the mistake of not winning, Real Madrid have the ability to take advantage of the situation well and that has been proven by them in the Champions League last season as well. In their last match last season Atletico won 1-0 and as such, Real Madrid will not waste this good opportunity to avenge their previous defeat, because Real Madrid's trend is clearly still the best at the moment.
6166  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season on: September 14, 2022, 03:58:38 PM
Chelsea vs FC Salzburg

Chelsea and FC Salzburg will play their second match at Stamford Bridge. In the first match, Chelsea lost to Dinamo Zagreb, while FC Salzburg won a draw against AC Milan. From these results, Chelsea is at the bottom of Group E standings and FC Salzburg is in 3rd position.

FC Salzburg in the Austrian Bundesliga is the leader of the standings who have collected 21 points from seven wins in eight matches.
Chelsea are in sixth place in the English Premier League standings with 10 points, having only won three and drawn one.
The match against Salzburg led by Slovakian referee Ivan Kruzliak will be Graham Potter's first match as the new coach after Tuchel was sacked.
Hope your bet wins on this game.
It is not very logical to compare positions in their respective domestic leagues because of course in this case their domestic league in Australia is clearly very different from the current condition of the EPL.
Chelsea are currently in transition and this is a testament to their new coach.
Actually it's still a bit difficult in my opinion because even if there are a few days to make a strategy with Chelsea it's definitely something short but I think Chelsea will be better than their first game in the UCL.
Matches in the Champions League are difficult to predict because even though their quality is different but at this moment, their quality in their respective leagues cannot be a benchmark but sometimes it can be a good consideration too. At least in the first match it was proven that Chelsea had better quality than Dinamo Zagreb, but in the end even Chelsea couldn't score a goal in that match. So that way, because Chelsea got a new coach which is certainly not easy to start with in a short time, then Salzburg still have a chance to get points whether it's a draw or maybe a win.
6167  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: September 14, 2022, 03:02:09 PM
I find it difficult to see what is happening for Liverpool now because in terms of performance and attack they are still very good and actually their productivity is still very good in my opinion because they managed to score 15 goals but indeed in this case they are still struggling to become Targetman because the goals they create come from several different players.

Fifteen goals was because they were able to make 9 goals in 1 game against Bornemouth. I think at the moment they have not performed stable. Some games they lost. Though their players' stats are superior. Nunez as Mane's replacement has not been able to make Liverpool feel calm. When Moh Salah was locked they often had trouble making goals. Indeed their last Win against Ajax in the UCL.  Actually, I was waiting for their game against Chelsea. But if you look at the schedule on google it seems that the match was also postponed.
Yes, it looks like it has been postponed, even though it will be an important match for both of them as proof of the new Chelsea coach and also seeing Liverpool's performance against top teams whether there will still be a deadlock. Because even though yesterday Liverpool won against Ajax in the Champions League, basically Liverpool also got a deadlock until finally Joel Matip was able to score a goal towards the end of the match. With poor results in the last few matches, at least I assume the performance of Chelsea and Liverpool is not much different, so choosing them at this moment becomes an option that must be considered again.
6168  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: September 14, 2022, 02:01:40 PM
I'm intrigued by what you're saying, that money follows the champion. Yes I agree with that, and if you look at the potential that Borussia Dortmund have I can say they can achieve both if they really focus on it. But again they are not serious about this and only prioritize money, and they are enough with one place below Bayern Munich.
Apart from Bayern Munich, it seems that there is no other team that deserves to be favorites to become the champion of the Bundesliga, even if we talk about Dortmund, it seems that it is only a hope that is impossible to fulfill to become a champion, Dortmund penchant for selling players and prioritizing money is the reason it is difficult for Dortmund to be able to win titles, even though if we think about it so far, Dortmund is one of the teams that also has strong finances in Germany.

Union Berlin's performance this season has been excellent. They have not lost any match so far. The players of Union Berlin are playing well consistently. If they can maintain consistency, they can fight for the title with Bayern Munich. But the main problem with teams like Berlin, Dortmund, and Leipzig is that they cannot play well consistently. On the other hand, the Bayern Munich squad is very strong and they play consistently well. And so at the end of every season, we see Bayern Munich as champions.
Yes, Dortmund prioritizes business over achievement and this seems to have been realized by many people today. But even though Dortmund put business first, they remained consistent in the title race even though indeed, the end result was always Bayern Munich who won. But we also don't know what incidents might happen, because Bayern Munich's start to the season wasn't perfect for getting points, and Bayern Munich sometimes had a stalemate like never before which always seemed easy to score. Therefore, with the Bundesliga standings now owned by another team, at least it proves that if they can be consistent, Bayern Munich's dominance will also be broken.
6169  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: September 14, 2022, 12:50:39 PM
Arsenal had a very good record before being defeated when visiting Man United, the young players owned by the Gunners had a massive impact, especially the new players. Arsenal are a great team, there is togetherness and teamwork. however arsenal have a very tight schedule because apart from having to think about domestic competitions, there is also a Europa competition that must be followed and Arteta cannot depend on the first eleven line-up continuously. missing several players due to injury and lack of qualified second tier players to keep them consistent until the end of the season.

IMO, if Arteta has no other options I'm not sure arsenal can maintain its first place in the premier league standings.
Arsenal's current weakness is that their back-up players don't seem ready to replace positions that are sometimes left by their main players. Looks like they have to find a way to make this worry not really happen. They have to make rotations that can work well in each position. Otherwise, as you said, the possibility of them losing their position in the standings is wide open.
Even before the game against Manchester United, I concluded that Arsenal almost got a draw against Aston Villa. So even though Arsenal have second-tier players who may have good quality too I'm still not sure Arsenal will be able to maintain consistency throughout this season. The Premier League has become very competitive from season to season, so how good the quality of their squad is I personally am not sure the teams in the Premier League today can be consistent including Manchester City as well.
6170  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: September 14, 2022, 10:54:05 AM
What an important result inter Milan archive in the champions League that will do them or give them more confidence in the Saria A, it was an important victory and is good seeing Edin dzeko scoring and having an assist, he needs this goal because right now inter will depend on him to be providing goals since Lukaku is still out, lautaro Martinez can't do it on his own, the Italian league is tough this season, Napoli are playing like a team that have something to prove after challenging inter Milan and AC Milan throughout last season and just three points behind the champion AC Milan last season.
Team battles in the top 6 of the Serie A standings this season are indeed surprising. Serie A looks more exciting and could become like a very competitive Premier League.
it's still early, and the pursuit of points for each team is certainly still natural. those who can be more consistent in the game of course will be luckier.
Napoli also impressed last season, no wonder they can be at the top of the table. Inter's opportunities are still open, especially with the squad that is still not the best. Inter's biggest challenges are Napoli and Milan. they have to perform better.
Inter have tough opponents in the Champions League so it seems natural that their performance might decline, because even though Inter are currently sixth in the table, Inter have lost two. Meanwhile, Juventus, who are in eighth position, have yet to lose and as such, their points gap is still not that far which means their position can change. But if the top three teams can consistently get points then it will make their points gap continue to widen, but after all it is difficult for them to be able to maintain their good performance throughout the season.
6171  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season on: September 14, 2022, 09:57:49 AM
ATL.Madrid confirm that they are in a decline since last year and Leverkusen is a team that is on a rise in the last 2 years so it was kinda normal and expected to see Leverkusen winning and scoring and I think they might finish on 2nd place on their group stage. Porto had an awful night and I don't think this team has the necessary squad in order to 3rd place in that group and Brugge looks way more capable of doing that.
But if in the third round Atletico can win against Club Brugge, then of course the competition will be tougher because maybe there will be three teams who will have 6 points. But if Club Brugge can beat Aletico in the third round, then I will also confidently say that Club Brugge will be the group winners. But for now anything can happen and maybe the third round will be decisive, because only in that round is the chance for Atletico to stop Club Brugge from having a wider points gap.
6172  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: September 14, 2022, 08:50:11 AM
Clearly, marseille looks like it will be very difficult to maintain their consistency to maintain its position in the standings until the end of the season. Apart from PSG, there are many other clubs that are tough enough for Marseille to face in the next match, one of which is Lens, marseille can be replaced by Lens at any time in the next match. but what caught my attention was the struggle of marseille to stay consistent in ligue 1, until now ligue 1 feels more competitive because some clubs are not far from the points that psg has.

no one can deny the depth and strength of both the main and second-tier players that PSG have are far better than other clubs competing in Ligue 1. We have the same opinion, that PSG is likely to still win Ligue 1 for this season.

Yesterday's home defeat against Eintracht in the Champions League showed just how weak Marseille are. Marseille have shown a good streak of results but it is clear that they will not have the strength to continue at the same level as PSG all season - unexpected results like yesterday will happen in Ligue 1. And even if, due to some miracle, Marseille can share points in face-to-face meetings with PSG, I am sure that by the middle of the season, Marseille will lag behind PSG very much.
Maybe Marseille chose to focus more on Ligue 1, so the result in the Champions League yesterday was not as expected, even though I also bet on Marseille but still the defeat was certainly disappointing. Regarding Marseille in Ligue 1, although currently they have the same points, the difference in the number of goals has proven that PSG is still the best and so far I believe that no team can win the Ligue 1 title from PSG. Maybe as time goes on there will be a new owner with the wealth at his disposal, then that team will at least be a strong contender for the Ligue 1 title but for now there isn't.
6173  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2022/23 on: September 14, 2022, 03:59:36 AM
The real el clasico will be coming very soon but real madrid so far in the higher position compared with barcelona.

What? At the moment Real Madrid are only two points ahead of Barcelona, and this is something that can change in one matchday if Madrid lose and Barcelona win. Besides, there is still a month to go before the clásico. A priori I would say that Madrid is more favourite to win this league and has less pressure, but this is football. With such a small difference at the beginning of the league anything can happen.

I hope the two teams to arrive at the Clásico more or less level on points as they are now, which gives the game extra excitement.
Yes, if their points are not much different, especially when their points only have a gap of one or two, then the El Clásico match will certainly be very interesting. But after all, no matter how much points gap they have the El Clásico match will always be interesting, but this season will indeed be more interesting because Barcelona have Lewandowski who is expected to score a lot of goals. But apart from that, Barcelona just lost by Bayern Munich and what's worse, Barcelona can't score a goal but hopefully this incident doesn't happen for the upcoming El Clásico match.
6174  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- 2022/23 | Group Stage on: September 14, 2022, 02:51:42 AM
About Sporting, it was a surprise that they managed to make because they scored a goal in the last minute of the match and in fact, the goal they scored was not 1 goal but 2 goals. But apart from that, I admit Sporting did play well from the first half, so this victory was well deserved for them.

The next surprise came from Bayer Leverkusen, who thought Bayer Leverkusen would win with a clean sheet because even though they are playing at home but Bayer Leverkusen in the Bundesliga is currently even in the relegation zone. With this result too, I see the good and bad teams in the local league is not a guarantee of getting the same result here, it also happened to Eintracht Frankfurt.

But for today's match for PSG, Manchester City, Real Madrid and maybe also for Napoli it looks like it will be a definite win. In addition, there is a top team that plays at home but is not guaranteed to win and also reflected in the odds are Juventus @2.20 Cheesy and the opponent is Benfica getting odds @3.25 and indeed, Juventus has disappointed this season so the odds are reasonable. As for Benfica, they are still the best in the local league with a perfect win so far this season and as such, it looks like Benfica do have a chance to win or maybe just a draw.
6175  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2022/23 on: September 13, 2022, 05:04:37 PM
The trend of scoring with a thin final result for the Almeria v Osasuna match continues until now, even though if I consider their results so far this season where Almeria, who had won against Sevilla, is a sign that Almeria is capable of scoring goals. But the fact is that in last night's match, Almeria was unable to score a goal and again the match ended with the score 1-0 for Osasuna's victory. I personally bet for over 2 goals because I have the reasons above and pretty sure they will score, but in fact they are still not consistent and it is difficult to have a stable performance for a mediocre team.
This actually predictable before because Osasuna had better performance than Almeria in La Liga and in this match Almeria only know how to control ball possessions but their players cannot collaborated each other even their chances to scoring goals was very less compare to Ossasuna and the scores probably will be more than 1 goal if their goalkeeper didn't playing better and for Osasuna they has successfully to showed good counter attack strategy which very effective  
That way Osasuna only plays defensively, if Osasuna played more openly, Almeria might be able to score too. Indeed, Almeria only won in ball possession but with Osasuna playing more defensively and only relying on counter attacks, it is certainly difficult for Almeria to get a better shooting space. But yes, it was a strategy they applied and Osasuna managed to counterattack, because the ball possession percentage in both the first and second half Almeria was very high but could not penetrate.
6176  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: September 13, 2022, 03:59:40 PM
In the Premier League, semi-automatic offside technology will be used from next season. However, does this technology implement have the power to change anything? However, I'm still seeing bad officiating with this technology because it seems like it's all about money. By doing this, they are indirectly admitting that VAR is a complete failure.
But semi-automatic offside technology is only for offside, right? This means that VAR will still be used to see other things such as missed fouls and other incidents on the field. Therefore, I still don't agree if you say VAR failed miserably because even though they developed semi-automatic offside technology it is certainly to make it even better. Although indeed, if there are referees who may not be neutral they can still ignore VAR or can still make controversial decisions even though there is VAR, but with semi-automatic offside technology every offside case will no longer be a controversy.
6177  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: September 13, 2022, 02:59:24 PM
This week almost all the favorites failed to get maximum results, Bayern Munich had to draw with VfB, Borussia Dortmund had to suffer a defeat to Leipzig, the most recent being that Freiburg failed to get full points at home to Borussia Monchengladbach. It's a bit surprising to see the results of this week's match, that they failed to capitalize on a win.
They also managed to thwart a lot of bets but even though it was a bad result for them, at least this kind of result remains interesting because apart from the match being difficult to predict at least their competition has also become more competitive. Although indeed, at the end of the season I'm sure his position will not have much change from the previous seasons. But regarding the surprising week, I think their defeat might be because they are preparing for the Champions League match. In the middle of this week they will play against strong teams like Bayern Munich who will play against Barcelona and Dortmund who will play against Manchester City. This factor can still happen, but considering they are the top team in the Bundesliga, they should still be able to overcome the match with the expected victory.
6178  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season on: September 13, 2022, 01:59:44 PM
Today there will be a match schedule which of course everyone is waiting for, whether Liverpool vs Ajax or the more prestigious Barcelona vs Bayern Munich. After all, Bayern Munich hype is quite high. The two last met last year and Barcelona lost badly. This is an opportunity to turn things around if today Xavi will maximize his full squad. I don't think Bayern Munich is easy to beat. Because this club is one of the most difficult clubs to beat.

There are definitely some interesting matches happening this evening. Liverpool vs. Ajax is interesting because Liverpool is already under quite a lot of pressure because they lost their first match with 1-4 against Napoli and if they are not victorious today again i think it will begin to become uncomfortable for Klopp slowly but surely.
The match Bayern Munich vs. FC Barcelona is probably one of the most prestigious matches that can happen in the world of football. Barca this year is definitely stronger than the squad of last year so it will be a very close match in my opinion. Bayern also some trouble at the moment because they had  3 draws in a row now in the Bundesliga.

If I consider Bayern Munich and Barcelona at this moment based on their performance in the local league, then I would definitely say Barcelona are better. But indeed, if it's about the Champions League match, of course it will be a different prestige because when a top team plays against a top team it will be the one with high prestige. Unlike the case when a top team plays against a mediocre team, there will always be views about underestimating the mediocre team. But in this match of course Barcelona will fight hard to get revenge, but if Barcelona rely entirely on Lewandowski to score goals then maybe it will be something difficult to accept.
6179  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: September 13, 2022, 12:59:42 PM
Manchester City's form this season cannot be compared with Liverpool's poor form. Liverpool have some work to do to get them back to winning again. Manchester city are looking much more favorites to win the league again this season, Arsenal have showed they can be competitive but I doubt their squad is good enough to carry them till the end of the season.
Yes they have to improve first before they can finally be compared to Manchester City. It's interesting to see him the team that was talked about a lot at the start to be the favorites to get a different result. Even not only in terms of the team, their two new recruits also got very different results. Haaland has been able to show his quality with Manchester City, while Nunez is still very difficult at Liverpool.

When Man City failed in the Champions League last season, it makes Guardiola open his eyes, that Man City really needs a striker. For that Man City signed Haaland for a fairly high transfer value but it's worth it because the contribution Haaland has made to Man City so far has certainly lived up to Guardiola's expectations. We all know that Premier League still has a long way to go and everything can still change but I think Man City is still the strongest candidate to win the EPL this season.
Yes, even though there is Arsenal who at this moment still looks good but I believe, no Premier League team has the consistency like Manchester City. Even though Manchester City still haven't won the Champions League title but for the Premier League Pep Guardiola is still very good at building Manchester City and with that, with Haaland the hope of winning the Champions League title may be one step better this season. But if it's only about winning the Premier League title, Manchester City is still very possible to achieve that, and maybe this season will be Manchester City's history if they win the title because it will be winning the title for the third time in a row.
6180  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: September 13, 2022, 11:59:40 AM
Even though they won, AS Roma's game could not be said to be good. Even against Empoli who are below them the quality is still very difficult.
But this victory can add to their confidence again after last week swallowed a very embarrassing result. This is an important asset for them for the next match.
if you look at the statistics, Rome is still losing to the host Empoli. which is in terms of quality under Roma. lucky Dybala scored early in the first half. and Abraham's goal midway through the second half.
Roma did not appear so strong. but they are better enough. they gain momentum to continue winning in the next match in Serie A and the Europa League.
In that Match Dybala could have played well, made 1 goal and 1 assist but if Pellegrini had managed the penalty kick then it would have been a better win with the score 3-1. But unfortunately, Pellegrini failed to score a goal from a penalty kick which made Roma once again only get a narrow 2-1 win, even though Roma did not have a tough opponent in the Europa League. If playing against a mediocre team in the Europa League still can't win, then it looks like Roma will get consecutive defeats for the next two matches in Serie A. Because Roma will play against Atalanta and then against Inter and indeed, Roma can still hold a draw but I personally not so sure because Roma still have to play their main squad against mediocre teams in the Europa League if they want to win and that will make the rotation of players not going well.
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