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6181  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Bitcoin arbitrage, quite profitable BTC investment, make 1-3% ROI per day on: August 03, 2014, 09:00:42 AM
August 1, 2014 result:+0.78%

In 16 days a friend of mine should have his shares worth $11000 expired. His ROI should be around 172%. Balls of steel bro, congrats.  
6182  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Genesis-mining.com || World's leading hosted Scrypt hashpower provider! on: August 02, 2014, 05:14:30 AM
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Is there any particular reason why you have kept the promo code field case sensitive ? If I enter the promo code as UMANO-17 it says its valid whereas umano_17 is not valid. I think it should not be case sensitive.

Best,
Vaisajne

You have to use code MOON  Only Whit MOON you get the 3% Discount and a trip to the MOON

Heh, promotional efforts become more creative every day.
6183  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: bitcoin-trader.biz on: August 01, 2014, 08:01:00 PM
"housemarket is not a ponzi, its inflation driven"

Interesting way of putting it. Would that mean that from 2008 to 2009 US had negative inflation in the order of 60%?



Negative inflation would be "deflation."
Deflation, like in deflationary. That's good, right?

It really depends on what economist you talk to whether inflation or deflation are a "good" thing.

You people must be bored big time....
6184  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Bitcoin arbitrage, pros and cons, experience and profitability on: July 31, 2014, 09:28:59 PM
You also need exchanges that can/will transfer bitcoin out right away and exchanges that will accept bitcoin deposits with as few confirmations as possible.
Getting either Bitcoins or money into Bitcoin exchanges is not the problem. Trouble is always on the withdrawal side. Bitcoin confirmations take, at worst, hours. Withdrawals can take from days to forever.

So dont use Bitcoin, trade some other faster coin, this ll take care BTC confirmation part. Also, do not trade crypto to fiat but crypo to crypto and cash out only when u are done with trading. This should speed up the
process even more.
Any alt coin is going to much much less secure then bitcoin so when you send it you will have an even greater chance that the TX will be reversed.

Don`t get this comment, would you pls clarify.
6185  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Bitcoin arbitrage, quite profitable BTC investment, make 1-3% ROI per day on: July 31, 2014, 09:24:55 PM
Bitcoin trader has reached another milestone, 9 months online, no issues so far.
Cumulative results for July 2014 is +19.1%
This first month of the third round of shares maturity has also been completed.
6186  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: bitcoin-trader.biz on: July 31, 2014, 08:13:41 PM
The bet that this thing will implode in the next 120 days is risky. Plenty of Ponzis, including some BTC-related, have lasted for longer than BT's current age. I can see it going for another 4 months and even longer depending on how many suckers are still out there.

It will go boom, eventually, but I think 1 year is a safer bet.

You do understand these guys are online over 9 months. Add 1 more year to this time and they would be 21 months online. Since full ROI is under 4 months, including reinvesting, this would mean people would reach ROI 5 times during this period. You really think something which is not legit can survive to pay out 500% return on investment to 2000 of its members just from ponzi earnings?HuhHuh

IMO, this just does not add up.
6187  Economy / Securities / Re: Is there anything here worth of investing? on: July 31, 2014, 01:26:05 PM
How about Litecoin and AsicMiner?

Litecoin? I guess you mean investing into buying LTC. I believe that the only way LTC can survive in the future is to switch to NeoScrypt algorithm, similarly to what Feathercoin is planning to do. If not, large ASIC farm owners are going to continue to dump until they devastate the coin.

AsicMiner, have had no experience with them. Is there anyone here who can share experience about AsicMiner?
6188  Economy / Securities / Re: Is there anything here worth of investing? on: July 31, 2014, 11:38:45 AM
Have a look at www.cryptodron.com



See, that is what I am talking about. A new member with 6 posts advises me to invest into cryptofund which is "a hedge fund created with the sole purpose of multiplying Bitcoins". How, where, when, who runs it, nothing. They just say to send them 10 BTC and they will multiply it. Sure, sending 100 BTC now.

It makes me want to puke when I see the number of scams emerging every day inside BTC ecosystem. It also makes me to think that some kind of regulation is necessary to help send these scammers where they belong.

LEGIT STUFF ONLY HERE, stop insulting my intelligence.
6189  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: bitcoin-trader.biz on: July 31, 2014, 08:00:14 AM
You can back your principal after maturity period expires and this period is 4 months. At the top of that you can daily profits, only during business days, no weekends, which you can withdraw each day.

Willing to wager on this trust you have in bitcoin-trader.biz? Two to One odds:

I will deposit 0.5 BTC and you deposit 0.25 BTC. If bitcoin-trader.biz is still around in 120 days from now, you get it all. If not, I get it all.


Deal?

Just saw this, I'd totally be up for this bet. How would you want to carry out the bet?

Hey, this seems fun. All you need is a trusted escrow. If you do not find anyone else with higher reputation, I can do it for free.
6190  Economy / Securities / Is there anything here worth of investing? on: July 31, 2014, 06:27:15 AM
I went through couple of posts here and all of them end up with the same conclusion, SCAM after SCAM. Is there any decent crypto related security which is actually worth of investing in?
Is there anything with a decent business plan, a clear statement how to use money collected from investors and a dividend which might provide ROI some time in the future?

Has Bitcoin really become a tool for dishonest people to steal money from the community??? I really hope I am wrong.
6191  Local / Other languages/locations / Re: Српски (Serbian) on: July 30, 2014, 01:13:01 PM
Daj manite se klikanja za 2 centa, jel neko investirao BTC u nešto konkretno da ima zarade od toga. Ako da, podijelite.
6192  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Bitcoin arbitrage, quite profitable BTC investment, make 1-3% ROI per day on: July 30, 2014, 06:01:16 AM
Another great day. Yesterday's trading result:+0.83%
6193  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: bitcoin-trader.biz on: July 29, 2014, 08:26:19 PM
Working images:
https://i.imgur.com/oNediFY.png
https://i.imgur.com/GTN0f0a.png
https://i.imgur.com/lSbYU9C.png

So should we understand that the 22nd July option gave you 3.6% until now? Do you get back the initial investment or just the profits at the term?

You can back your principal after maturity period expires and this period is 4 months. At the top of that you can daily profits, only during business days, no weekends, which you can withdraw each day.
6194  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Bitcoin arbitrage, quite profitable BTC investment, make 1-3% ROI per day on: July 29, 2014, 06:16:21 AM
are u aware that people started to think this is a ponzi until they prove they are a trading company as they say ?

check here before reinvesting :
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=393570.860

Well, If I listened to this kind of people, I would not get 176% ROI a week ago. 2 of my friends and 5 of my referrals have also reached similar ROI in the meantime. As each day passes, more and more people reach ROI as well. You are aware that people who invested in November 2013, when they first came online, reached full ROI at the end of February 2014. That was SIX months ago. People who invested in February reached full ROI in late June. These are all facts.

So the Ponzi is still paying, so what? Pirateat40's Ponzi paid out perfectly for even longer (with higher returns), until it didn't. Outside of the Bitcoin world, Madoff's Ponzi lasted for more than a decade, with many people ending up with a profit. Didn't make it any less of a scam. And those people that end up with a profit, earn it from victims that are left without their money when the scheme collapses. That must feel nice: Earn money from people that get scammed out of all of their investment.

The fact that payments are still being made only means that currently there are enough new victims putting their money in to pay off old investors. Nothing more, nothing less. But this setup requires deposits to grow exponentially and that's not sustainable, so sooner or later the whole thing will come crashing down and the site will just disappear. There may be claims about being hacked or some bug in the software locking them out of the wallet or some other excuse, but the end result will be the same.

If an operation such as BT could legitimately make even 5% ROI per month and could prove this, they'd have venture capitalists falling over eachother to throw money at them. With such gains it would be trivial to attract a single large investment and work with that. There would be no need to maintain a fancy website, sponsor stuff to gain attention, have customer support staff or a referral program. You should wonder why, if BT would be able to prove that they are legit, do they use such convoluted means to get investments when much easier and lucrative options would be available?

You do not like it, don't invest, this is perfectly fine by me. I really do not intend to go into one more pointless discussion with you or anyone else. I have laid out in details potential gains and risks of this service, I have also willingly decided to invest. Has anyone been misinformed on this thread? Have I been lying about anything here? WTF story then are you try to sell here?

Also, if you have some other more lucrative and SAFER investment, I am all ears.

Armin22, dude, take your pills pls, you get cranky when u skip a day and start writing about conspiracy theories. I have no affiliation with Bitcoin trader besides the fact that I have invested money in it.
I guess you must be owner of lunamine.com since you have them in your signature.
6195  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Bitcoin arbitrage, quite profitable BTC investment, make 1-3% ROI per day on: July 29, 2014, 04:23:56 AM
are u aware that people started to think this is a ponzi until they prove they are a trading company as they say ?

check here before reinvesting :
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=393570.860

Well, If I listened to this kind of people, I would not get 176% ROI a week ago. 2 of my friends and 5 of my referrals have also reached similar ROI in the meantime. As each day passes, more and more people reach ROI as well. You are aware that people who invested in November 2013, when they first came online, reached full ROI at the end of February 2014. That was SIX months ago. People who invested in February reached full ROI in late June. These are all facts.

On the other hand, I have clearly stated in my first post and in at least dozen other posts in this thread this is a risky business so use your head and invest only when comfortable with the entire system. There is really no need to go back to this again and again and again.


I do not think they are ponzi and I have decided to trust them with my own money. That being said, after I received my ROI, I have withdrawn my principal in full and now have only in house money invested, I reinvested all of my profits and now getting even more profits. I recommend this to everyone else, this significantly reduces the risk.

6196  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: bitcoin-trader.biz on: July 28, 2014, 06:24:13 AM
why don't they just show the alegeded trades they do?


btw: the more money you use to arbitrage the less you gain because of slippage

Slippage? What s this gotta do with the amount of money used in arbitrage? The price can change anytime and one can lose arbitrage opportunities, regardless of the amount used to trade.

IMO, as the market stabilizes, there will be less and less arbitrage opportunities since these primarily blossom during periods of high volatility. However, I think we have at least one more year until this takes place if not longer. This recent period of volatility we are in at this moment is a perfect proof of that. No bad news, nothing on the surface causing price movements and still the price changes almost 10% during 2 days. Also, more exchanges with sufficient liquidity would contribute to arbitrage opportunities even more and decentralize trading process at the same time, which is step in the right direction.  
6197  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Bitcoin arbitrage, pros and cons, experience and profitability on: July 28, 2014, 04:27:49 AM
You also need exchanges that can/will transfer bitcoin out right away and exchanges that will accept bitcoin deposits with as few confirmations as possible.
Getting either Bitcoins or money into Bitcoin exchanges is not the problem. Trouble is always on the withdrawal side. Bitcoin confirmations take, at worst, hours. Withdrawals can take from days to forever.

So dont use Bitcoin, trade some other faster coin, this ll take care BTC confirmation part. Also, do not trade crypto to fiat but crypo to crypto and cash out only when u are done with trading. This should speed up the
process even more.
6198  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Bitcoin arbitrage, quite profitable BTC investment, make 1-3% ROI per day on: July 27, 2014, 04:54:36 PM
This week Bitcoin trader will reach another milestone, 9 months online. This means 2 full shares maturity cycles plus 1 month into the third cycle.
I only wish I invested more and earlier.
6199  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Genesis-mining.com || World's leading hosted Scrypt hashpower provider! on: July 27, 2014, 03:55:11 PM
Cmmon, give him a break, he s just trying to survive in this harsh BTC world. Smiley
6200  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: bitcoin-trader.biz on: July 26, 2014, 10:03:00 AM
no news with docs i supose ?

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