La mayor diferencia así a bote pronto es que no tienen nada en marcha, mientras que ICE Rock si (ver el video). El riesgo es muy alto. Ya mirando un poco lo demás, el plan económico no parece muy sólido. No veo por ejemplo cuanto se destina a pagos al equipo. Por otra parte, el coste de la vida en Suecia es bastante más que en Kazjastán, e igualmente el coste de la electricidad. La cantidad que quieren recaudar es exageradamente alta. ¿De verdad crees que si tienen 200 millones van a poder usarlos con eficiencia y buena gestión? Nada que sea una "bandera roja" enorme, pero si más arriesgado que Ice Rock sin mejores perspectivas que lo compensen. Gracias por tus consejos tienes toda la razón. La verdad que son muchas las ofertas que salen y es dificil distinguir el trigo de la plata. Este proyecto si que parece interesante https://www.hydrominer.org/Gran infraestructura y buenos criterios. Mejoraría al proyecto Ice Rock? Equipo: En el equipo veo un técnico experto en minería y mucha gente de finanzas, marketing y comunicación. La calculadora de beneficios que tienen exige introducir parametros como price to earnings ratio (PER), lo que lleva a pensar que basan sus predicciones de retorno de la inversión en la revalorización del token, mientras que Ice Rock solo considera el puro retorno de la inversión a través de dividendos. Así, sin meterme a hacer la investigación en plan fuerte, me parece que el proyecto tiene sentido. La ventaja que veo para Ice Rock es que no tienen gastos de refrigeración e incluso yendo directamente a las centrales hidroeléctricas el precio de la electricidad seria parecido. Si tengo que poner dinero, me parece que el proyecto de Ice Rock requiere muchísima menos planificación, es muy "sencillo" de llevar a la practica y la localización y los acuerdos comerciales ya están cerrados. Mucho menos riesgo diria yo.Desde el punto de vista técnico, las centrales hidroeléctricas no generan electricidad de forma continua, por lo que no entiendo como mantienen un operación continua de minado solo con energía hidráulica. |
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La mayor diferencia así a bote pronto es que no tienen nada en marcha, mientras que ICE Rock si (ver el video). El riesgo es muy alto. Ya mirando un poco lo demás, el plan económico no parece muy sólido. No veo por ejemplo cuanto se destina a pagos al equipo. Por otra parte, el coste de la vida en Suecia es bastante más que en Kazjastán, e igualmente el coste de la electricidad. La cantidad que quieren recaudar es exageradamente alta. ¿De verdad crees que si tienen 200 millones van a poder usarlos con eficiencia y buena gestión? Nada que sea una "bandera roja" enorme, pero si más arriesgado que Ice Rock sin mejores perspectivas que lo compensen. |
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Hodl all waves tokens because waves released beta version. It improve itself every time. Its team are hardworking team I have ever seen
I agree on the technical part, but there is a problem with the quality of many of the projects that are being launched at this moment on the WAVES platform. I do love the wallet, the market and the leasing. |
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I have 100 Waves. Its price now falling down and down. I'm in Confusions Sell it or Hodl it now!
Waves at this moment kind of sucks. The platform is great, the tokens are easy to create and it has many tools. Now the promoters have to get their heads of their assess and start launching good projects. |
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Yep, the Viberate programme is well know. I do believe on this project long term and I think that is heading in the right direction. The ICO sold really fast and I would recommend anyone that is into music to get involved. |
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Hi All Members, Most critical moments in Cryptocurrency history of yourself; 01. Most Painful  02. Happiest  What we do in that moments! Appreciate your reply to newcomers for cryptocurrency industry One of the most difficult moments occurred at the beginning of BTC, when an intervention was needed as some guys found a fault and were trying to create bitcoin from nothing. Almost successfully. |
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There are great signs that BTC will experience a large boost very shortly.
If you have been watching the recent financial markets you are certainly aware of the large downtrend in the Dow Jones. Just a comparison: one percentage point drop in the dow jones corresponds to a loss of about 70bn in market capitalization. And over the last few days, the Dow is down by 10%.
And in the meantime, BTC has been ... going up.
Until now, serious investors were happy riding the upward trend in the normal financial markets. With the recent downturn, investors will be looking for alternative assets to invest in. BTC in particular and crypto-markets in particular will be noticed as uncorrelated to the normal financial markets and thus as an interesting asset class for diversification purposes.
Particularly if the Dow contains dropping while BTC remaining flat or increasing, more and more traditional investors will move their money into the crypto markets. When this happens the new money will significantly push up the price of BTC.
Great times ahead!
Yep, that is great really. Much more stupid money coming into the market. I am just wondering where to put my money just to grab as much of it as possible. An I am not racist at all, so Korean money is as much welcome as american´s. |
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This is just a thought that occurred to me while reading some posts around here, feel free to discuss it or even criticize it. So if we want Bitcoin to rise in the future, we need it to crash first and many wannabe traders to sell off their coins at a loss when the price is low. If people don't close their positions in panic now and just wait out bad times, they simply won't let prices grow later because they will get out whenever the price rises just enough for them. But if they fix their losses, they will no longer have bitcoins to record minor profits and thus drag the price down in the future. As a consequence, the price can surge higher without a lot of selling pressure at bigger figures when the hype and buying frenzy begins anew.
The bottom line is that it is kinda required for Bitcoin to crash occasionally for the prices to rise higher eventually.
These crashes occurs because the market is immature and there is plenty of money coming into crypto from the regular joe on the street that would not even consider investing, for example, in high tech publicly traded companies. So, yes there are necessary and they are welcome. I don´t particularly like to see my portfolio loose so much value in a week, but if that´s what´s needed... so be it. |
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I just don´t believe any of those exchanges and companies that say that they are hacked. I think that they are simply running away with the coins and the saying they were hacked. I would love to see some people hit the jail to stop this shit.
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I consider it will never have crashed because Bitcoin and Fiat currency is dissimilar to each other. It will have crashed merely if wholly the nation combined forces to ban fiat and only used cryptocurrencies. But it's awkward. It’s not similar to Bitcoin who can we enterprise the value of it down. I mean is that the price of Fiat Currency is founded on somewhat, and the something is the economy of a state, and it is tough to make it crash
You have not much historic background do you? Just google the Republic of Weimar, just before Hitler´s ascent to power. You will find out that the German "mark" was not even worth its own weight in bread. |
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¡Qué ganas tengo de que comience esta ICO! Estos champis van a poner en su sitio a Amazon y muchos otros gigantes que están acostumbrados a que nadie les pueda toser. ¡A por ellos! |
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Y la ICO sigue en camino. Con una recaudación de más de 1 millón de dólares, esta va a ser una de las minas de Bitcoin más espectaculares. Y lo mejor es que puedes formar parte de ello por menos de lo que te cuesta el regalo de San Valentín de tu novio o novia. (Desde 100$). https://icerockmining.io/ |
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Muy buenas a todos. Me acabo de encontrar con esto: http://100-btc.net/Alguien lo ha probado? Suena a estafa... Cómo lo veis? De verdad que no hace falta ni preguntarlo .. Unos tios que dicen que van a multiplicar tus bitcoins por 100 gracias a un fallo que tal y cual.... en serio, necesitar preguntar? |
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hello,please suggest me. how can i find good upcoming airdrops??
The obvious answer is the bounty section of this forum. I does not get much better than that, although I understand that you may have to dig. IMO airdrops are rarely profitable compared with the time it takes to look for them and join. |
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We probably have multiple alts that one could consider as better version of bitcoin but as you're noticing, bitcoin is gaining more popularity and a fast growth. The price is not a measure of a coin success so what I'm referring to here is the the number of ATMs, exchanges, stores, services, and people accepting it.
So even If we have some people using alts currently because they believe they are better then bitcoin (which may be true), bitcoin is evolving and the development is super active and exciting times are coming. I honestly believe that this make alts useless (say, by the end of the year), your thoughts?
You are right in a way. I am into alts much more than into bitcoin, but I do make a difference between coins, utility tokens and dividend tokens. Of these, only coins and utility really need adoption, and some of the utility tokens don´t need a lot, as their value is backed by services. Regarding Bitcoin in the incoming year, while I really hope the best for bitcoin, as hodl some, for the moment it has shown a less than ideal ability to deal with the disagreement in its own community and a very slow implementation of the latest developments along with a centralised (large mine) governing group and lack of consideration for the everyday user. To sum up, either Bitcoin moves quickly or Alts will make it irrelevant. As I am writing this, bitcoin is only 35% of the market cap. https://coinmarketcap.com/charts/ |
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I am opening this thread so that people who have been on ICOs and have endured them can provide a guide for "good practice" for companies launching ICOs.
PLEASE DON´T POST GENERIC COMMENTS. I intend to curate the thread and edit this message is sufficient members have relevant things to say. If you want to spam, there are many threads out there.
My own contribution:
- Obviously, don´t scam.
- Set clear Soft and Hard Caps and don´t change them.
- Have your telegram groups moderated.
- Have a group for bounties and treat your hunters as partners, not as beggars.
- Don´t make decisions that harm your community and investors. It will come back as negative publicity.
- Do no whitelist three times more contributors than what you need. At a certain point is best to close the list because you will create a community of angry people than will not ever buy your token.
Please, add...
- Update you bounty hunters on their progress. Be understanding to them because they are, as you say, your partners. |
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I heard Robert Kyosaki is talking about the crashed of FIAT CURRENCY? when this thing will happen? how are we going to respond?
I am not precisely a fan of Kyosaki, who has made his living of telling US residents that they should try not to f*king spend all their money as soon as they get the weekly check. Fiats don´t really crash except in some poorly governed countries, but they do drop in value progressively as the interests rates are lower than inflation. A slow death IMO. |
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Hi I wonder if it would be possible to create a coin that - promotes less use of electricity.... one way could be to limit who can mine the coin like low power devices (just a thought)
- do not have the create something from nothing "issue"
- it might be an illusion but also a coin that promotes more trust and have a more stable exchange rate
As good as any other place to post. The thing is that there are already projects that are experimenting with combinations that look for all those things. The world does not need another coin please. But I am going to merit you, because you are giving some thought to cryptos, although you don´t look newby at all for your question. |
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Let me give you the best answer that I can:
1000 dollar in Populous in June 2017 would have given you 14.000. Make your own calculations on what may happen if you choose wisely 3 or 4 times in a year.
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As I am wirting this, I have faith in ArcBlock and InsurePal. Both of them are very successful in community and the projects are very solid. Great teams too.
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