I dont see a problem with people posting in spammy threads, you know when you enter a thread that allows nothing but low quality posts. Maybe call it recreational posting, I dont know. Its spam, yes, but it is not derailing or diminishing an otherwise good thread. These are IMHO the bigger problem. People that do not read threads and just post their 3-4 sentences of emptyness or rehash other answers. Obviously if you are only here for giveaways or to post each day what you drank, there should be no one paying for your posts, but even if, I dont think this is a problem. Its not like the forum has a storrage problem. It has a spam problem and the spammy threads are not causing the problem. What is causing the problem is bad posts in otherwise good threads.
This ->
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1243734.msg12990564#msg12990564is spam, but its not easy to find if you dont follow the thread. Its annoying for those seeking help and a possible distraction as well. It might even be dangerous in the sense of "oh just export your private key and upload it here". Its also difficult to report as it might be an honest mistake.
This ->
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1090962.msg12995337#msg12995337is harmless, easy to find and not a problem. At least in my opinion.
I agree with what you said Shorena, that said the list users have complied so far is mainly individuals with most of their posts being one liners and located in off-topic and games and rounds and are singled out for that in the descriptions i'll call those type of posters recreational posters as well.
Example: This person just posted their username and guessed the price of something but did not really add any content etc. (Banned) The problem is if recreational posting is all they do then it is spam and looking back a few pages you can see the pattern.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=532293;sa=showPostsThat said posting bad advice in Project Development and Technical Discussion is definitely not harmless and can cause problems if the advice is misinforming and misleading and that is important to note, although in those cases I generally would look into if they were making an honest mistake and in need of correction or just padding to their post count there are some good newbies there but there are definitely bad seeds among them as well.
The point you mentioned is that their is a difference in how people view spam, the tendency of the forum is to look closely towards the recreational spam as it is an obvious type of bloat and less on the subliminal type like the post you linked which might require people to pay more attention although they are a big problem, that said both posts are spam in my opinion but one is easier to see than the other with a casual glance and look at post statistics.
That said there are cases where the persons posts may look like Spam but are on topic example people who only are posting bids in Auction threads but for the most part you don't see to many of those but it's up to people to scrutineer those type of posters before listing them.
I'll pick on Kolloh as an example since that's a name I recognize from luckyb.it as a regular user, the posts may be short but reading the context and areas of the forum they are in they aren't that bad however they would still end up on some peoples lists such as guitarplinker as they met his criteria of spam.
Reading back a few pages in posts you see there not all shit or else Stingleword would not have added the user to luckyb.its campaign when it was still running however if you look at a users most recent page or the length of an average post a person may end up with a different conclusion or opinion, example a warning vs a perma ban etc.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=349689;sa=showPosts;start=20But I don't see any such restrictive exclusions on yobit campaign page.
Actually what most of the campaigners expect,I think,is that their promoters to be 'seen' in the relevant sections of the forum like games and rounds,investor based games with their signatures.
But how far the relevant section threads are in need of constructive,lengthy posts ?
Most of the threads need just usernames or just our 'two cents'.
And I appreciate yobit campaign/er for being genuine in this respect and not imposing any restrictions unlike many other campaigns.
And my first question in this thread was actually meant for XinXan as to what exactly prompted him to put me on the 'hit list' without taking all these things in to account.
I was wondering if he really expected highly constructive and lengthy posts in the relevant sections from me before he put me on the list.
That is one of the issues with yobit paying for all the topics it gives its members more freedom but at the same time users do not like seeing the spam spread to different areas of the forum, recreational spam tends to spread to other sub boards like services D@T etc, and looking through the thread yobit is now banning users from the campaign if they are purely recreational posters like Shorena mentioned or making crap posts in other sections.
As for why XinXan added you well he will need to respond, but in my opinion as Shorena and others have put it most if not all of your posts were that of a recreational poster and not really adding content in general to the forum, even if they were correct for the type of thread you posted in it is frowned upon if that is all the user does, not taking into account that most of your posts in general were short in length. As mark mentioned Bitcointalk is a forum for discussion and not a giveaway talk so its important to do both.
Really this Topic is now going off....
So much nuisance is created just for one user?
I suggest To OP that he should LOCK THIS THREAD and only unlock it when he wants to add more spammers (For Editing ) then again lock it..
This thread should be for information purposes only not for discussion ..
Your right, that said it's important to explain to users who are spamming where they are making mistakes if they ask.
I'll stop discussing this as well I feel like the point has got across with the help of others to explain their criteria for being added to the list.
*Deleted a Post so that the thread will start clean on the next page this is a long blurb apologies for anyone who gets confused by the quote links
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