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6181  Economy / Economics / Re: The value of bitcoin? on: November 30, 2017, 09:26:50 AM
Adams Smith wrote that the price of all things are equivalent to the human labor involved in their exploitation.   The price of gold is determined by the cost in human labor to mine it.  It can then be exchanged for another commodity which takes an equal amount of labor to create it.

Over time I have been able to find ways to place a price on stocks which I can use to evaluate what their value is to me.   I can then buy and sell based on what I determine as value at any time.   

I’m not a currency speculator but I also believe the US dollar is being killed.   I don’t like having much of a cash position but would rather be fully invested.   At this time what I see is a highly inflated value of the S&P 500.  Any bonds other the very short term bonds come with too much risk tied to the Feds low interest rate policy and the increasing money supply along with quantitative easing which is placing too much fake money on the Feds balance sheet.

After many years I have developed a feel or intuition to tell me when prices are out of line.   When it comes to bitcoin I am at a loss.   I like the core concept of bitcoin and long term it seem like it will all work out but it’s value is another issue.   I just don’t have a feel for what it’s worth in exchange for food, a house, a car, gold equivalent.  It seem that it should be relatively close in value to the cost incurred by the bitcoin miners.   How do I find out what the current cost is to mine bitcoins.  It cost to mine a well know number kind of like the PE for a stork or index?

I have started to buy small amounts which I plan to hold but I really don’t like the volatility.  It is also difficult to invest in something when I don’t really have any history to give me a clue of somethings value.  I doubt I would hold if bitcoin went over 5000.  It seems to be moving a bit too fast.
Bitcoin is a crypto currency and there is always up and downs in the value of crypto coin as they are not perfectly stable.

But what really matters is its average value and its graph and in the case of bitcoin the graph is ever increasing until and its average increase is also too Hight it has reached the heights of $10,000 few days before and it will still increase. If you invest for long time than you are sure to have profit from bitcoin as everyone else have got form it.
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6183  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How to overcome the fear of holding? on: November 27, 2017, 01:34:35 PM
The easist way to overcome the fear of holding is buy a coin and do not check it's price till the moment you want to sell it.

Yes, but how often can you follow this advice. I mean if you have coins with you , you will always be tempted to see what going on in the market? Whats the current value of the coins and other things like that. And if the price is very low you will be worried and a high price will give you greediness to sell the coins. Rather than stop watching the market, you should make your emotion strong and have control over your emotions.
It is difficult to not check the value of Bitcoin while you are holding it because of its fluctuating nature and present progress. In my opinion the best way to conquer your fear is to face it. Buy a coin and look at the price at least twice a day.

This will help a lot in getting rid of fear and it will also develop a good understanding of digital market but the most helpful thing is patience and a calm mind.
6184  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can maths help you win in gambling ? on: November 24, 2017, 01:38:10 PM
This is sort of an odd question, and I haven't read people stating this in this thread, which is the correct answer. 

Math of course can help you improve your chances of winning.  The problem is, even though you improve your chance, it still not a positive % that you are going to win, or the expected value is still negative, meaning, the more you play the more likely you are to lose.  But yes, Math absolutely improves your chances of winning.   
Math’s is just the subject which can help you in calculating profits and losses but it cannot help you in winning the game and that too in gambling. Gambling as we all know is a gem which is totally dependent on luck and I really don’t believe that there is any connection between luck and mathematics, Lol. Mathematics is just there to tell you that you are going in loss.
6185  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Time to quit now, network getting worst on: November 24, 2017, 01:08:58 PM
Network getting worst....there still about 90K unconfirmed transaction and transactions cost become so high.

If this keep happening, price will drop into shit soon....it could lead price to below 5K soon
There seem no way to solve this network problem, transaction per-second more higher than bitcoin network can handle.




It's up to you mate, but if you ride the FUD it'll be your decision, somehow, maybe they are just up to something to bring the price of Bitcoin down in order to accumulate more into lower prices.
I have the very same opinion regarding this statement. All these rumors are spreading just because other digital currencies are jealous of bitcoin and they want bitcoin market to go down as soon as possible so that they can increase their coins in value and compete with bitcoin to take its place.

I am not going to leave bitcoin no matter what the community is saying about bitcoin market especially international media.
6186  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Is it possible to use bitcoin like offline currency? on: November 22, 2017, 01:26:35 PM
Few days ago a friend asked me this questions. But i cannot understanding that how to i give him answer. At last i said him that, bitcoin is an online currency. Only this currency used in online marketplaces. It is not possible to use it in offline marketplace like offline currency.

But what is your best answer of this question?
This is a question of future as for now it is not possible as its physical nature is not created until but still one we can use bitcoin in many ways and buy anything you want.

It can be used in many market places which are online. But in future it can happen that people will develop physical bitcoins and they will trade all around the word as a currency and bitcoin will become the only globally currency use all over the world this could happen one day but It will take time.
6187  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The advantages of bitcoin on: November 20, 2017, 07:03:19 AM
Bitcoin has many advantages. For example, the same opened cryptocurrency code. You can see any user transaction, you will agree that it is very convenient. I also think that bitcoin lacks inflation, number of bitcoins grows and grows every day, which makes bitcoin universal. So bitcoin can not be forged, it's not real money, it's impossible to deceive anyone.
Bitcoin give chances to all those who want to be rich. Chances are broadcasted to every person, we only need to work out to make ourselves easy with bitcoin work. Your focus should be on learning. It is better advised to learn and learn more so that you must be ready for everything that come along your way. It really helps you earn money and fulfill your daily needs for better life.
6188  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin in College??? on: November 20, 2017, 06:33:49 AM
Bitcoin as a course or any related currency on web.
In my country we have multiple courses in computer especially programing and web developments. My course is also information technology, but i've never heard or learn about online currency as bitcoin. In present, and future studies is there any chances for inserting about it in education. In your country is it available?
It would be better for any country to adopt bitcoin in educating new generations. Instead of playing games and wasting money in surfing xxx sites.
I think, it will be very helpful to college students especially to those students that related to their course in bitcoin, because bitcoin brings  a knowledge to them.Especially bitcoin will help their financial needs because it will help them to earn money even if they are a college students only.So the  time will come that the college students  will not waste their time into the worthless things.
Exactly these students are ready to get anything that is creative. Bitcoin is making world amazing then why we are not working on this. I think we should make it compulsory for every high school to place one subject related to biotins in their syllabus.

Besides earning the amount they would be knowing about bitcoin is such little age, so in future they make better investments for their happy life.
6189  Economy / Economics / Re: Who supplies us bitcoin? on: November 15, 2017, 01:02:27 PM
For me I don't know who are the supplies us bitcoin maybe not time to who's the supplies the bitcoin maybe someday i know that.
Miner sell their coins when a coin is completely miners they can sell their coin on the other hand one can easily order bitcoin from the exchange and they will provide you after getting the price and this is very simply if you are buying through the exchange but if through mining this will be very time taking process and this will allow you to owe your own coin bus this require continues electricity and internet.
6190  Economy / Economics / Re: what will happen to banks? on: November 15, 2017, 12:33:28 PM
The bank must follow the developments of blockchain technologi and adapt it if the bank does not want to get out of business. Because currently  many companies or ICO projects  have implemented blockchain technology for payment transactions.

so why do we still need a bank!

Well i.don't know but if that were to happen, its probably not goong to be in our lifetime. Banks will always be the dominant force in the market in our generation and likely even the next.
Nothing will happen to banks they will simply upgrade their system to the crypto level and this will give them an surviving situation and on top of it btc has gained so much popularity that people are taking out their money from the banks so that they can earn a lot through this innovation and bitcoin is better replacement to the banking system and that’s the main reason that bankers are worrying about them.
6191  Economy / Economics / Re: Was Bitcoin actually just a Pump and Dump? on: November 14, 2017, 08:51:55 AM
I'm also sure that there is great speculation of pump and dump bitcoin, if we see that the market cap has reached $ 100 billion would be a good opportunity for speculators to get profit from pump and dump.
Actually bitcoin is a digital currency and its related with trade when the trade is good so the price will be high and when the trade is low so the price will be low so no need to worry about it and its normal so I think we must continue with our work and need to take profit from bitcoin and I hope in future bitcoin price will be more high than ever.
6192  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why Cash is better than Bitcoin. on: November 14, 2017, 08:21:03 AM
Cash for old school gangsters, Bitcoins for Future businessmen
Bitcoin is safe and it is the best time to safe and it is easy to use I know how the bitcoin is increasing more and more I can see the future of the bitcoin is now better than the cash and the gold, now all the things are able to pay with the bitcoin and we are aware of the high price and the value are giving the high profit to the people for the bitcoin in this era as now I can see the bitcoin price go more and more high.
6193  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ZGR-ICO] ZIGGER: A Project of Bitcoin Marketplace for localized Shopping on: November 13, 2017, 06:47:46 PM
The best thing which this idea will help us is that we’ll be able to buy not only the new goods but we can also find the old goods as well. We’ll be able to buy anything of our interest by simply paying the bills in the form of bitcoin. This will also remove the need of having paper money in our wallets as we’ll easily anything which want to have from this forum.
6194  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How do you deal with loss? on: November 13, 2017, 01:25:06 PM
So in trading how do you deal with loss? For example you've invested in an alt and now it has fallen quite hard and you're on the brink of losing all your bitcoin you invested in it.
How do you actually deal with it? Do you wait and keep on waiting in hope that it will bounce back up and return your investment or you sell and get whatever left of your investment?

Trading is my hobby. I always act normal even I encountered loss. I know that having a loss in trading is normal and I believe that it is a part for me to become a professional trader someday.
This is really a very good approach. If you will get dishearten by suffering any kind of loss, then there is no way that you are going to recover your loss.

The best thing which you can do in order to recover your loss is to keep on trying hard and keep on learning from your past mistakes. You actually need to put in more efforts with better plan in your mind. Do not quit doing trading as this will not help you in anyway.
6195  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Which one is a better investment Bitcoin Or Ethereum, on: November 13, 2017, 01:01:24 PM
I think Bitcoin is better than Ethereum now. Ethereum price is stable meanwhile Bitcoin price is predicted hit about $20,000 in few next years.
I think of both bitcoin as well as ETH equally good from earning point of view. It all depends on your planning. If you are going for day trading or short term investment, then it is better to invest your money into ETH. On the other hand, if you are planning for holding or long term investment then it is bitcoin which is going to serve the purpose. You have to decide yourself amongst both of the options.
6196  Economy / Economics / Re: Is time too late on: November 07, 2017, 12:16:02 PM
It's never too late. This time it's different since there's a large influx of new users, new investors, new companies willing to accept bitcoin and lots of new things that weren't present back in 2011. Also, bitcoin is still in its infancy even after many changes in the source code. We are yet to see even crazier roller coasters once big players join the party.
It is really in its infancy stage from the look of things just as you have said. We haven't even seen that much huge adoption yet and we are already at this stage. Imagining what it would be like when more companies, merchants, wall street dudes, and other big players start joining the party, then it would be like a speedy train without brakes.
It never late to invest because as many of investor are still waiting for the dump to occur and day by day prices are going up and this is an alarming situation for the buyers so invest now otherwise you will regret in future by seeing other’s profit and yeah that will be more awesome when everyone will use bitcoin this will surely give huge rise to the prices so get into pool now otherwise there will be hard to buy at high.
6197  Economy / Economics / Re: Someone from 2020 contacted me on: November 07, 2017, 11:32:10 AM
Wow what i nice series of numbers i hope this may happen, Actually we don't know what will happen in the future. So lesson save bitcoin as long as we can and wait until the right time to sell.
This will happen soon that bitcoin will exceeds from its marginal prices and that time will be profit acquiring time an that’s right that future is unpredictable but seeing the popularity charts bitcoin has made a stable place now so that increase in price is sure thing and at the end f 2k17 prices will be at 10k and In coming 2 to 3 year bitcoin will be the most precious coin on this planet so be ready for that time.
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6199  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How do I grow my btc? on: November 04, 2017, 11:22:15 AM
Just as recommendation, be really careful with hints from other people. Everytime do your own research before investing in any coins. Buy low, sell high and learn the technical chart analysis.
For sure it is very important to have the bitcoin and to get in the bitcoin because now all the people are using the bitcoin as the other side and the resource for the bitcoin, now the value and the price of the bitcoin is increasing so it is the time to buy the bitcoin and to hold till for the long time as the best and the better process of the increasing value and the price of the bitcoin, I know the bitcoin and the investing of the bitcoin is my best priority for the earning bitcoin.
Surely the time comes when bitcoin is offering you to choose it. There was a time when no one knew about bitcoin and it was all and only technical people who are working on it they knew it. But now, social media and electronics media made it possible to spread about bitcoin all over the world. Good luck for all those who are investing in bitcoin and may they have much better.
We all know the fact that Bitcoins are going to take over the international market in the upcoming few years. Due to such a bright future of the digital currencies in present world we all must not give up on use of Bitcoins and some other currencies in business or some other Investments.

As far as ways to grow the Bitcoins are considered, the best way obviously is use them in your way to earn more and more and mount up for future use.

6200  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Should Bitcoin even have a future? on: November 04, 2017, 10:50:12 AM
I think that Bitcoin and Blockchain both have potential. As you said, some country may try to get rid of Bitcoin but as we have already seen, Bitcoin has quickly recovered after China announced that they would ban Bitcoin exchanges. However, there will be always a few countries which will allow using Bitcoin because they will profit from it.
yes off course it could be, theres no doubt about it, we all believe that bitcoin has  a high market value right now therefore many people get interested on it too, and it happens that now bitcoin continues to grow its price , and we doesnt think before that bitcoin will go over like this price and now we can see bitcoin price is to the moon now and it is good now more good than years before.
If we have a deep look about the market values of different digital currencies available then it is not wrong to declare Bitcoins having the most secured future in the upcoming years.

It is at the top of the list considering the currency values and therefore the use of Bitcoin in business and other investment sites has increased to a greater level as compared to the past. Thus Bitcoin do have a bright future and anyone who wants to play on the safe side always should opt for the use of Bitcoins.

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