NOT bad 20 Barrels of OIL makes one BTC, for 120+ years the PTB has waged all wars on earth for 'portable energy', now with BTC there is something more valuable, and it doesn't require super-tankers, it can't be seen.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-28/how-many-barrels-oil-are-needed-mine-one-bitcoin

Ask again why Chinese want to take over "BTC Brand", from their point of view they OWN BTC, given they mine +80% ( It only takes 51% to control block-chain consensus, so by Satoshi-Rules, China is already owner problem is 'people' are greedy and nobody can organize dozen's of Chinese FatCat's ]

[ https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2328044.0 ]

Ask why do much FUD on this site.

BTC is the new oil, its where war's will be fought for the new 'portable wealth'

NYA/NYC ( SEGWIT - Kosher Nostra) want to OWN BTC

China (Triads) wants BTC, NSA thinks its their baby,

Interesting most BTC is going to Japan, largest exchanges on earth since China banned

[ http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-28/were-back-chinas-largest-crypto-traders-are-relocating ]

So once again, JAPAN stay's on the map, to be the new NYC of BIT-COIN

Lastly, lets all PRAY that NYA-NYC-SEGWIT dies a horrible death, NYC doesn't deserve to even be in the game.

Why do you create doubt? Do you have an agenda?

http://8btc.com/thread-86823-1-1.html

This is NOT from Reddit this is from 8btc.com, which is owned by BEIJING INNOVATIVE LINKAGE TECHNOLOGY, who own most of the online BTC websites in China.

This is the real deal, not a conspiracy, do you work the GOV?? Is that why you drop the CIA "conspiracy" tag? Note this was posted on a public chinese BTC site, it was not posted as a conspiracy, it was posted  as their public plan to take-over BTC.

Now the Chinese already own BTC, given they mine +80%, so in their minds, they're just trying to kill that pesky 20% that irritating them, they want the full 100% and want nothing to do with the 'little people', they want BTC to be a rich mans currency in CHina for the Gods.

BEIJING INNOVATIVE LINKAGE TECHNOLOGY

Domain Name: 8BTC.COM
Registrar: BEIJING INNOVATIVE LINKAGE TECHNOLOGY LTD. DBA DNS.COM.CN
Sponsoring Registrar IANA ID: 633
Whois Server: whois.dns.com.cn
Referral URL: http://www.dns.com.cn
Name Server: NS.EDONG.COM
Name Server: NS1.EDONG.COM
Status: clientTransferProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited
Updated Date: 08-jan-2015
Creation Date: 23-aug-2011
Expiration Date: 23-aug-2017

One last comment and I bail, all need to understand that Chinese is Tao the "way" and the way don't include you,

Satoshi was Zen Buddhism, and night&dad to the pigs' of ASIA ( chinese ),


Chienese already owned +80% of BTC, so it doesn't really matter, they own it, they do as they wish, and if that includes dissaociating white trash of their BTC, so be it.

It's clear that the majority of the ppl running BTC CORE don't represent the white-west, they have clearly sold out BTC,

Well its good that Zen&Ethereum exist for the west, perhaps that's how this will end, ironically for the Chinese to get stuck with SHA256 (NSA), I wonder how long before they dump that bitch??

Crypto_-Currency is the future, I truly believe in SATOSHI Dream and I wish all you assholes would go create your own ctrypto from scratch,

But as this article (Plan) makes clear its not the code they want or the blockchain/merkel tree, they just want the BRAND, cuz NYC gives the orders and  Chinese in Shanghai are owned by  the Kosher-Nostra.

Thanks for bringing this to my attention, I can see this because BTG BITCOIN-GOLD has already done this, they don't support the legacy block-chain, theyre 2MB they don't read 1MB blocks, so its not really a "FORK", its truly a DUAL Bifurication, at the same time to forks in a road split into a path that doesn't allow legacy bitcoin to in reverse or forward,

So these aren't really forks, but they're really "derailers", that put the entire BITCOIN block-chain into crisis, this and the replay problems should make it impossible to correct also, given that the new "FORKS" don't even use the same data-structures.

So the new forks can tell the sorry BITCOIN people whoops, if you want your money back, you will have to JOIN US, which means as they wish, everybody goes to B2SEG, some can stay with BCC, and of course BTG(bitcoin cash) is just bullshit, but it was allowed to muddy the waters and get people conditioned to "REPLAY" ( double spending and double use of private keys, with no recourse to return to legacy bitcoin ).

BTG will get people furious, but then when B2SEG comes out people will accept getting fucked and accept that BITCOIN is dead, so NYA gets the BRAND, and B2SEG becomes the new chain, and all is owned by NYC&SHANGHAI,

Not bad, not bad at all.

ANother great chinese quote in there
is "Little people don't deserve to own BITCOIN, its was meant to be controlled and owned by the Gods".

GONG LI CHONG ( his name U asked ) who wrote this

In a battle, the first to distinguish between friends and foes, in this battle of bifurcation, BCC and 2X are supported by the blockbuster, so they are allies; the other ally is Core Core Development Group and BTG On behalf of the community block. But BTG is too weak, basically can be seen as the Romance of the Three Kingdoms.
It is said that because BCC and 2X are large blocks, will compete in the bifurcation when calculating power, some people claim to abandon one of them. Because the BCC block is larger and 2X is contaminated by Segwit, which is opposed by large block supporters , most of the block supporters believe that 2X should be abandoned and the BCC should be centrally supported . And this choice in the survey was very obvious . Seemingly reasonable, in fact, is the lack of imagination. This also shows that people in the circle of short-sighted, there are fewer strategic vision. I think this kind of person should read the Romance of the Three Kingdoms.
It is foolish and unreasonable to first abandon your allies in a war and face the enemy alone. And in this bifurcation. 2X is the protagonist, BCC although there are many advantages, but still too young, the first supporting role slowly grow up.
The battle, 2X bear the responsibility of grabbing the BTC brand. The BCC because there is already a name, there are many investors in the previous throw away the BCC. BCC would like to directly host the enemy too much, too difficult. BCC in the beginning to locate the retention of the burning ideas in the fire, to prevent NYA has not been implemented. Before the battle did not fail, there was no reason to start the backup program first.
Because to win the BTC brand. Its value is far greater than the BCC prices rose sharply in the short term, only 1X and 2X are eligible to encroach on the BTC brand. BCC's success is still long. And this bifurcation of the war, but have the opportunity to complete the battle, the strategy is not unreasonable far away. If the 2X program fails, then start BCC upper bit too late. Originally two games, only wins a game can be. If you give up one of the fighting in advance, it reduces the success rate of half of the block.
When the real bifurcation, how to avoid these two large blocks of the power of competition for it? Program or some.
BCC and 2X to division of labor to attract different computing power. BCC is responsible for attracting miners who chase short-term mining profits. 2X is responsible for living and fast fast, and let 1X can not be out of the block or very fast. If necessary, can take all technical means. So that the middle faction to fight over, the enemy is a friend, greatly improving the chance of winning 2X
We can make a precise plan.
November 13, BCC start hard bifurcation, the goal is to modify the EDA mining difficulty algorithm, making the BCC mining difficulty adjustment more continuous smooth.
14 , BCC hard points difference to complete. BCC contrast BTC difficulty coefficient should be maintained at a lower level, 0.04-0.07 between the more appropriate. Because the cost of pulling up the price is the lowest.
15 days. In the trading market gradually pulled up the price of BCC. Making the profits of digging BCC gradually higher than digging BTC. Attracting a clear position, simply profit the miners to divert BCC.
16 , continue to pull up the price of BCC. And to speed up the mining rate of BCC, because the block is too fast, BCC mining difficulty coefficient will increase. If you want to attract these floating miners, you must continue to pull up the price of BCC, making the BCC dig BTC has a higher profit. Keep and attract more miners to dig BCC.
17 - 18 to continue to maintain the above strategy, and let miners, Bitcoin users, Bit Coin investors are aware of this strategy. This will promote the market to increase BCC buying. Pull up the price of BCC will be less expensive.
Is why three days in advance to pull up the reasons for BCC prices. Because the strategy from the implementation and widely known takes time.
On the 19th , BCC started a wave of strong pulls from the beginning of the fork. Attract all willing to dig BCC people do not leave, decentralized. The result is only 1X and 2X firm support to calculate their own mining. Firmly support the power of large blocks, which one of the BCC to ensure that the strategy can be implemented steadily. The other all the power to dig 2X, while launching moderate intensity of the dust attack. Soldiers are fierce, who do not want to fight. To fight must win, take all the strategy to win. Do not be kidnapped by morality, do not need morality. Bitcores need to be strong, stable and fast.
At this time 1X block will be very difficult, the block speed will be very slow, and may appear to lose money. The market should panic. BT1 prices will decline rapidly. BT2 prices will certainly be reduced. But because BT2 prices have been very low, the decline should be limited. If calculated according to the weight of the occupied poles. BT2 should be significantly increased; so, digging 2X miners will reduce the loss.
Force attack does not need to force too much to ensure that 1X block is very slow, the most important thing is to last long enough time. If there is excess effort, you can take part of the dig out BT1, dug out on the market throw, and further suppress the price of BT1. Subsidy dug 2X loss.
In the back of a week or longer, keep 1X out of the block is very slow, to combat the confidence of 1X supporters. Bitcoin's experience in this period will be poor, the total price of Bitcoin will continue to fall, of which BT1 part will drop faster. This will force the Core core team to change the mining algorithm 1X. If this is the case, the 1X algorithm has been completely incompatible with the previous mine. This leads to the fact that the Core core team has changed BT1, and this change will make it automatically out of the coin community identity. In extreme cases, it is possible to force BT1 to be changed to POS.
22 , 2X stable out of the block, and mining difficulty was significantly higher than 1X. And 1X block is extremely slow, mining difficulty was significantly lower than 2X, this has been for three days. All mines and exchanges that support NYA are officially announced: 2X is the BTC, according to the difficulty of the board and the height of the block. And urges all exchanges to support this fact. This step must be, the blockbuster in the propaganda than good at social marketing Core Core Group is much worse, must make up this lesson.
Support for the 1X group will certainly not be recognized, so in this period of time will cause BTC brand confusion and book economic losses. But this is the necessary stage, because the Core core group of stubborn to give the bitbell circle had to bear the pain. Well, let us bravely bear it. Wait for it all over. The price of the bitcover will be a ride away. Short time for the loss of the old leeks, are nothing but commonplace only.
The most important thing is that after this battle, Bitcoin regains freedom of development. The freedom is free.

http://8btc.com/thread-86823-1-1.html

OP posted the chinese site, can't bots translate??

Chrome (Google) can translate for you, this is normal chinese stuff, they're smart, and they're not playing the game like an idiot dumb white trash guy, they're playing for real to win.

Everybody in China wants to be RICH, while everybody in USA just wants to get laid or stoned.

I'm fluent in Chinese, so if folks here really don't think this is real, ask, ... more than glad to help white idiots understand that they're being fucked.

Note also again, NYA is NYC, which is Kosher-Nostra, and when they decide to CO-OPT the BITCOIN-BRAND, its game-over.

The only way this war can be won is to say FUCK YOU  to Forks, but sadly the MAJORITY of BTC is dumb as a rock, look at BTG,

Bring out your BTC from cold-storage and get your free BTG, you dumb sheep, and guess what it worked, and now they'll make you lazy and you will soon just leave your BTC in these ASIAN exchanges and BOOM one morning you will wake up with nothing.

Make no mistake the kosher-nostra wants it all, they let you mine it, now they're going to take it, but they're going set it up, so that you GAVE IT TO THEM, and then you can't even call that theft.

Just DUMB,

Sounds REAL, folks need to understand the ppl in NYC/NYA are the same as the kosher-nostra in Shanghai-China, while BTC may have came out of crypto-anarchy, the RICH CHINA/NYC people have decided to CO-OPT the bitch, and this how you do it by triangulation,

They are absolutely correct, the MOST important thing about BTC is the 'brand', and that is what they want, they can pull BCC, BSEG, or BTG out of their ass forever, but they'll never own the brand unless they steal it or destroy it.

No accident that all the whore houses in ASIA & VEGAS & MACAU & DUBAI are all owned by the same guy, Sheldon Adelson #1 Trump contributor.

No accident that NYA wants to keep controlling money, just like Shanghai control's money in China, and the Whore-House people know that "Dark-Money", secret money is the future of the whore-house business. Where their customers can have privacy.

It's win-win for all and lose-lose for BTC crypto-anarchy libertarians like Satoshi.

51% has to do with adding a transaction to a block-chain, and once a new transaction has 51% consensus it stays and the longest blockchain wins the battle on the de-centralized network.

This HAS NOTHING to do with security, SATOSHI created "51%" to solve the double spending problem.

Now security, which is what we're talking here, is that there is a KEY, a private key and a public key, your address is public, and if I KNOW your Private KEY then YOUR Money is MINE.

Now that question to be asked about "HACKING BTC", is HOW do I get YOUR BTC private key?

Well it can be done, and above I explained how its done, and if you google, you can learn.

On the question of infinite time and hash-power that's not true, while true on 'brute force' ( dumb search ), a sophisticated sorted butter-fly algo can drop the search space to 2**32, current 'infinite bullshit' is 2**50, or 2**128, but advanced researchers who study EDCSA see patterns and figure out algos to reduce the search space to 2**32 or less, and then it can be done in short-time computationally.

The problem as shown on this topic and OP, is that the majority here don't have a clue about BTC or how it really works.

The OP asked a good question, but the normal BOTS&TROLLS stepped forward with the normal canned bullshit, sure in a world of MORONS BTC can't be broken, that was the idea behind "Brain Wallet", and all the lemmings that followed that moron lost their BTC.

Just a few years ago RSA with 128 bits was impossible to break, but then one day a guy discovered they were seeding with ports which were 2**10, which meant that if you search a small seed-space you could break the CRYPTO in a few minutes to this day BANKS still use RSA, which is well understood how to hack.

Same with BTC ( sha256 ), smart people study patterns and figure out how to reduce the search space so that a crypto-puzzle can be quickly solved.

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All of this is BULLSHIT really because anytime BTC wishes they can move from SHA-256 to SHA-1024 and make BTC impossible to break, IMHO the ASSHOLE hold BTC back to SHA256, because the ASSHOLES want to be able Steal "asset forfeiture" as they wish, just like they do now with banks.

Ergo if BTC doesn't get off its ass, then the zcoin ( zencash ), ... will be where the crypto-anarchy people go, and BTC will be for assholes & morons.

If you don't FUCK the golden goose, sure BTC can go to $100k, or higher, but the "Forks" are diluting BTC. BTC was supposed to be 21 MILLION coins max, but now an infinite number of forks promises infinite few alt-shit-coins and the idiots love this shit.

What's clear is every 'fork' so far has bumped the price $500-$1000, next fork NYA-SEG will be run out of NYC, with MADISON-AVENUE marketing, IMHO it will easily bump to $10k and then fall back to $5700.

The "Assholes" ( bankers/lawyers) are now in control of BTC, and they'll  fuck her to death, and leave her with junky marks on her arms on a dark-street when they're done.

Libertarians & Crypto-Anarchists saw BTC as once in a life-time chance to be free of the assholes, but the assholes just see this as another daily way to FUCK and enslave the masses.

I think had the forks NOT have happened by slow normal growth BTC could have gone $10k to $100k, but now that the "ASSHOLES" and their "FORKS" are going to KILL the BITCOIN-BRAND, it will just be whore-horse that they will ride until she collapses.

It's NOT too late folks, but there is HOPE, there is light in the force, there is zen-cash, and many libertarian crypto's that the assholes aren't in control of, ...

The question to be ASKED is NOT how high will BTC go, the question is CAN the CRYPTO-ANARCHY/LIBERTARIAN founders take BITCOIN back from the assholes, before they RUN her to the ground.

Week's prior to "FORK" of BTG "BITCOIN-GOLD" all the MEDIA in BTC land advertised "FREE BTG", but first you had to BUY BTC or MOVE your BTC to a 'participating criminal exchange", or bring your "SAFE" BTC out of cold storage and put it as risk on a questionable exchange.

People who didn't have any BTC bought it with the PROMISE of getting rich from BTC and GETTING free Bitcoin-Gold ( better than Gold!!! )

Majority of BITCOIN-CORE, NYA, SEG, and all the criminal players in NYC, Russia, & China all support these 'games' because it brings in FRESH money to BTC and keeps raising the price.

Of course  the entire BTC community on all the forums also loves this because they get "FREE" alt-shit coins forever,

Nobody thinks for a minute this if violating Satoshi's promise of 21Million MAX Bitcoins, at the current rate there will be 100's of 'forks' a year, and eventually the BITCOIN brand will be worthless.


Prior to the "FORK" ( BTGCPU called Oct25 a fork ), BTC was $6200 USD, after the fork BTC collapsed to $5700 USD. $500 loss for the suckers who followed the pied pipers running the well orchestrated fork-fuck.

Who are the pied pipers pushing these fork-fucks?? The people who want to destroy BTC, and its Crypto-Libertarian dream.

Everything the Libertarians do, always gets CO-OPTED by the assholes ( lawyers/bankers ).

U had to put your BTC in exchange at $6200, and take it out at $5700, that be $500 loss, but BTG is now $120.

Lot's of people SOLD their BTC high to get into yobit.net, and then lost their ass getting back out and getting back into BTC, that be a $380 LOSS ( 500-120 ).


So the "FREE" BTG gained you $120, but taking your BTC out of cold storage COST U $500 USD.

It's posted on twitter at #bitcoingold

That's where I got the number, 11% supported the BTG FUCK, and 88% didn't want the BTG Fork-Fuck,

Goes to show you WHO is running BTC, and it aint' the majority, something about soiled underwear in China.

People like U, like to compare BTG to ETH, look ETH is backed by REAL PHD's who spent their lives on this work and ETH made it work before it was released.

BTG on the other hand is all done in secrecy by masked people in CHINA, and then this prof starbuck ( github btcgpu ) they put in charge 2 weeks just did a video, in a smoke filled room with dirty-curtains, and a picture on a wall crooked, explaining why BTG is 'late' because they got ""DOS'd", turns out they didn't even use real servers, they used K-MART go-daddy and got dox'd

To compare a BTG which is owned by a GUY that own's 100's of similar alt-coin domains with ETH is insane, its just goes to show everyone here that the criminals that run BTG and all these alt's pay people to post on this forum.

All the people involved in ETH were famous before they even started ETH. All the people involved in BTG are known criminals.

Source??? Google is your friend, I have given all you need above, if you just google.

"Google is NSA" - Putin.


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Give me an address, and I will hack it, it can be done, that's what LBC is all about, this is what EDCSA-sorting is all about, and bloom-filters. It can be done. It's just not done where it attracts attention.

Diamonds are a key, you can hide  a baggy up your ass, and it sets off no dectors, the new body-scanners may mean you need to tape them here&there, but still the idea is the same,

CIA has been moving its loot for years with diamonds, its the only way to move large amounts of cash without setting off metal detectors. Modern back-scatter tech probably catches diamonds, but you could always keep them on your glasses or watch, or a ring, or any fake costume jewelery that dumb TSA people would not want, These days with the way body scanners are working, I think hiding a bag of diamonds in your ass would no long work, hell I tried to keep a wad of 100 dollars bills rolled up like a joint on my ear, and they caught it!, they're good!

CIVIL-WAR is coming, and in a civil-war the LAND becomes worthless and after the civil-war the WINNER's decide who owns the land,

Thus if you believe the USD/US-GOV is going to collapse and become an un-civil war, you don't want to go there, you need to be able to EXIT the USA, and that means with a suitcase, which only leaves BTC.

Long ago, a person could carry gold during an EXIT, but now they can see 'gold' buried from air-planes "remote sensing", its 50 year old TECH.

IMHO I would say GOLD & BTC, when I say BTC I mean eth, zen/zcash, dash,... any good high value/high market cap leader in each algo category.

The entire world is descending into ww3 and crypto-currency is the only way to "take it with you".

First advice would be to get the fuck out of the USA before the SHIT hits the fan, go live in some place like CHINA where owning gold is OK, and have BTC for insurance, ... if your rich, go to new-zealand, that's where all the rich are going now.

If your poor, and must stay in USA, then find some mid-western place and learn a trade, and keep your head low, the coming years in the USA will be hell, BTC is just a way to "MOVE" your wealth naked, as TSA will have body-scanners on every corner and civil-asset forfeiture will fuck you out of any thing your holding.

Study history of global civil-war's in history folks, owning real estate is the last place you want to be,

The way you make money on RE is to return and buy it for nano-penny's on the gold-dollar. Post Civil war.

The shills & taut's are much louder than the 'experts', just to to twitter #bitcoingold and you can see the supporters still expressing the promise that BTG is "GOLD",


Hell just the other day Apple's "WOZ" said that BITCOIN was 'math', please don't make me vomit, the forks and the shit-code released by BTG-CHINA is proof that "BITCOIN" the block-chain/merkel tree is just one big hack aka kluster-fuck. BTC is NOT MATH, BTC uses math, but its NOT math, BTC-SATOSHI is masturbation by consensus open to the public ( who can read code ).

Most PONZI's play out this way, not until there is blood on the street does it end, as you all know 99% of the public still doesn't own or know about BTC, ... its when the shoe-shine boy is selling "satoshis", then you will know closure is soon.

What we do know is that every criminal, con-artist and crook is involved in BTC, and most of these people are RUNNING 99.9% of the commercial worldwide business 'BTC store-fronts'

Keep it Simple, Keep it pure, and go back to SATOSHI, ... libertarian anarchy that was BITCOIN, it was never for get-rich quick MORONS, or GOV, or White-Collar Assholes (lawyers/bankers)

Problem today is that BITCOIN has been co-opted by the assholes. BTG proves that fact the point being that BTC-CORE allow's this SHIT to even happen,

Ask that question of the 1,000's of people who have lost 10's of millions of USD, think mt-gox or ethereum faux wallets

There are many elements of hacking BTC,

1.) fake web sites that look real, which harvest private keys ( most common easy way to make $5 Million USD in one afternoon )

2.) mt-gox type infiltratin of exchanges where private-keys are held, another easy way for 'hackers' to gain access to millions quickly

3.) the mother of all of course is breaking the sha-256 hash, "Google Brain-Flayer", its been done, but that gig is over, there are many advanced NSA tricks for breaking ECDSA, which is how FBI can any time it wants get the private key for any address ( think silk road BTC auction )

4.) the theory of experts is that NSA created BTC to wait and see when the PUBLIC would/could break SHA-256, I speculate it will be broken by public within 2-3 years, before that GOV will send out a policy statement and tell all GOV to use SHA-512; banks will be kept on easy to hack stuff forever, and they'll keep public on SHA-256 as long as they wish

5.) Large Bitcoin Collider - this project if it gets 1k, or 1m users, all targeting their asic/gpus farms towards any specific address say 'satoshi1', then selective hacking will be gold, and just like mining pools, people will be paid a share of the profit as high value coins are hacked,.. How soon? Again it just depends on how quick he can get ppl aboard.

Eventually BTC will update itself to SHA-1024, so this is all no big deal, for safety keep your wallet in cold storage and printed, keep your BTC's off of these 99% fraudulent exchanges that just churn your BTC's for "FEES"

Lot's of people working on hacking SHA-256, I know the NSA can do it, and I suspect that folks 'private' in Israel are doing it on as-paid basis, just a matter of time before we get a little better HW, and sometime discovers a new ALGO for SHA-256, in general what the public see's is 15 years behind advanced industry and GOV, FYI in 1968 Tooley published "FFT", but Standard Oil discovered it in 1956 and was sharing with NSA, 17 years it took before Academi caught up with adv-gov-tech

The fork occurred some 4 days ago, the problem is the SOFTWARE doesn't exist, sure they posted a "BTC CLONE" on GITHUB, but that doesn't mean shit.

Working software doesn't exist, and since August there have been minor GITHUB additions, in the past 4 days post 'fork' there hasn't been a dozen lines of C++ added, which of course means that NEVER is there going to be a 'working blockchain'.

I speculate that they never intended to have a working BITCOIN-GOLD that the Fraud ( faux wallets key-collectors for BTC ), and the ICO one-day gain of 1/2 BIllion USD was the goal, and its GAME-OVER, and on to the next Scam.

The current guy in Ukraine "Professor Starbuck" ( see github btcgpu ) just started 2 weeks the guys running the operation in China/Russia, have already passed the torch, of course there is mystery man in china, but he didn't add any code value since he poorly did the sed/grep BITCOIN-CLONE source back August, I think that's why the pulled in "Professor Starbuck", but at this point even starbuck ain't adding any code to github

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The fork happened, get over it, the NOV-1 will come & go and there will never be a working block-chain, they NEVER intended this COIN to be "MINED", its a pure ICO.

Another POINT missed by MOST is that this PROJECT is owned by ASIC-CHINA, which means that they don't have any reason in the world to help BTC-GPU mining, but have every reason to tarnish the idea. Which is why IMHO they have shifted 'ownership' from China to Ukraine past 2 weeks.

Lastly recall history here, this started out as a pure ICO in AUGUST but china banned them, so it got sent to Russia where it was made into a "fork", and then passed to YOBIT-NET (Russia), who probably hired MR-Starbuck to make it appear that western people were involved.

Since August in this forum we have said all along in detail that "BTG was a criminal operation"

Yet, a majority of exchanges and 1,000's of BTC holders went for the "FREE BTG" scam, and they lost their ass, as it was more profitable to keep you BTC in cold storage, than to bring it to the "WALLET OF THE ENEMY", and then to buy it back at a lower price post BTG fork.

100's of FAUX-WALLET websites all tied to this scam, to collect private key's. To redeem your "FREE BTG"

It's quite clear that the MAJORITY of POWER in BTC-COMMUNITY is involved in this SCAM an allowed it to come 'legitimate' in spite of the fact that it was KNOWN to be a fraud all along.

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Is the entire BIT-COIN Community involved in this SCAM?? and all "FORKS" for this matter?? It's known that the ICO/FORK of BItCoin-Gold, it was promoted for months that you had to BUY your BITCOIN days prior to Oct-25/2017, that is why the market went up from $5500->$6200, because NEW-BIES, stupid people were to be FLEECED told that not only they could own BITCOIN, but also get $500/BTC FREE BTG to boot!!!!

Of course everybody in the BTC community has a conflict of interest here, as they want the BTC price in USD to go astronomic, the question begs to be asked, IF&WHEN there is a CLASSIC-ACTION suit, and given the BITCOIN-ORG how easy it is to FUCK the block-chain by "CONSENSUS" of greed, then it should be easy for some LAWYERS &/or Lawfirm in NYC/NYA to do a class action lawsuit against BTC-ORG and demand that buyers of BTG be made good, less 60% take by the lawyers of course.