Imagine you have 10 btc and/or 1000 usd, and current orderbook is the following:
Volume@Bids
1@100 2@99 3@98
Volume@Asks
1@101 2@102 3@103
First you buy 6 btc for 614 usd causing 1 minute lag and preventing others from making orders, then you sell 6 btc for 592 usd, thus you loose 22 usd + fees.
Or you can do the other way around, then you will loose bitcoins + fees.
That's roughly what happened. I am not sure it is a good trading strategy.
Update: so, yes, I like the explanations that it is either a software glitch of a trading bot, or an attempt to win some bet
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I think that Ripple is here to stay and it has a bright future. Though probably XRP is a bit overpriced currently, but they don't claim it to be a store of value anyway, they say it is just the means to prevent transaction spam, so its price doesn't really mean anything (I expect it to fluctuate a lot due to giveaways, media attention, technical problems, etc).
XRP is as "overpriced" as BTC was in early 2011 when it went to dollar parity. Maybe you are right. I say that it is overpriced because: 1) its supply is potentially ~4762 times higher than Bitcoin's, and it is not clear how it will be distributed among users, and the issuer claims that XRP is not a currency, it is not intended for investment, it is just a mean to prevent spam. 2) it took 4 years for Bitcoin to reach its current value, there is strong community and infrastructure, it proved itself viable in wild but still requires much much development... whereas Ripple's sources are not published yet and it lives in controlled environment, and of course much less adopted than bitcoin So I think 4-5K XRP/BTC rate could be a valid long-term goal... But looks like current price doesn't consider risks, it is probably just a result of the short term shortage of ripples, that can be caused by speculation (and can be easily solved anytime by OpenCoin).
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I think that Ripple is here to stay and it has a bright future. Though probably XRP is a bit overpriced currently, but they don't claim it to be a store of value anyway, they say it is just the means to prevent transaction spam, so its price doesn't really mean anything (I expect it to fluctuate a lot due to giveaways, media attention, technical problems, etc).
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Wouldn't that be more expensive?
I don't know. If price is fixed, you pay only predictible fees (and get discount from mtgox). If price is moving and the lag is ~1 minute, then it depends on other players' behavior. Obviously speculators that stabilize the price win (and thus the manipulator looses).
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Possibly the only purpose was to create the illusion of volume. Over prolonged periods, volume may be interpreted as consolidation, encouraging buyers. Short bursts of volume as panic, encouraging selling. A burst might also be intended to trigger bots, some of which trade based on volume activity in addition to price.
Isn't it easier to generate volume without moving the price? Just 2 big orders (buy and sell at the same price) could do it.
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IMO just do a provably fair game, no need to show your identity probably. You can find info about provably fair methods on this forum.
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I am not sure which way is better. MPOE-PR says you shouldn't be anonymous to be successful. But there is number of successful examples of anonymous businesses as well, e. g. Silk Road and possibly btc-e (is it anonymous?).
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yes, that's why I've put "premined" in quotes
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Ok, we will set a minimum withdrawal threshold. Thanks you!
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I wish people would stop pumping this proprietary non-coin trash start-up.
I like the utility behind it People trade it like as a currency, but that is because of its utility, where it has a use besides for trade of itself I like Ripple too. Great technology and idea! I see some major risks though. XRP is "100% premined" and its supply will be ~5K times larger than BTC supply, so if both currencies are successful, 5000 ripples/btc should be a fair price. But XRP is far from being as adopted as Bitcoin yet, it is still a proprietary software and nobody knows how its "premined" ripples will be distributed, this is a major factor of risk. So to my mind it is a bubble currently, it shouldn't be comparable to ~5K XRP per BTC (yet), but maybe in several years it will be. Though I am not an Oracle, could be mistaken
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where do you get this information, I would like to see live market depth and price history
I login to the XRP/Ripple site Also am only selling at 100 XRP to 1 BTC now I have an account, when I got to www.ripple.com how do I log in??? https://ripple.com/client
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Thanks again!
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We started using your network and it seems to be the best compared to your competitors. The only issue is it seems to be predatory. Isn't 36% fees too much? I would guess a normal rate should be 10-15%...
Well, you are right, and it is done on purpose: we don't want to give too much incentive for fake traffic and we want to reward efficient publishers that attract real customers, so we take significant part of money from advertisers that don't discriminate ad units. As stated in Terms of Use, our fee model consists of 2 components: 1) 20% of deposit fees (or 10% if you redirect traffic from campaign) 2) 20% from daily budget If you combine those 2, you get 36%, however advanced advertisers can actually pay as low as ~10-20%, here is how: 1) they can set daily budget to some small value to test ad units, and then reward the ones that generate sales via Goal Tracking API thus avoiding additional 20% fee and at the same time improving targeting of their campaign. 2) instead of depositing funds to their campaigns, advertisers can redirect earnings from their ad units (thus saving 10% on deposit fees), or they can "cheat" the system and refer themselves before ad creation to receive a 10% rebate from their deposits. We are considering changing the fee model and reducing the fees, but I am not sure when it happens. As I said, advertisers that really want to pay just 10%, can achieve it in the current model (and at the same time they give incentive for publishers to generate high-quality traffic). Thanks for your feedback and for using AnonymousAds!
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oh.. looks like MtGox wasn't ready to have that that many withdrawals with OkPay... i started advertising their service with my affiliate link... maybe that's one of the reasons why their reserves got exhausted faster than they expected another probable reason is the btc rate difference between btc-e and mtgox... probably huge money flows go through OkPay to make profit of it.
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Withdrawal requests ranging from $2-$20 are processed within a couple of hours and none of those requests resulted in errors.
I have exactly same experience with okpay withdrawal. I am convinced this withdraw process was specifically created to discourage withdrawals. They are working hard to loose credibility. I never experienced any errors with withdrawals, I only experienced delays. What kind of error does it show? Do you have a verified account at MtGox?
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I transferred funds from mtgox to btce with OKPay and never had any problems with them. And their referral program works fine too! what is a fee for that from both sides? 1% for withdrawal from mtgox, 2% for deposit to btce... maybe also some small fixed fee of ~3$, not sure about it.
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Sorry for the delay.Unfortunately, we do not have an ETA for the OKPay withdrawals at the moment. We apologize for any inconvenience caused. We will continue to check the status of these transferes and notify you as soon as they are processed.
Thanks,
MtGox.com Team April 23, 2013 13:15 Oh, wow.. How large was a withdrawal (if not a secret)? Or maybe the size doesn't matter, but amount of withdrawals does (and they don't have enough staff to handle it)?
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