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621  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 16, 2023, 06:16:28 PM
A healthy correction is the desire of low coiners and no coiners.

Sure there is a group of people who maybe have not been in bitcoin for even a full cycle, so they are still busily stacking sats. They would prefer that the BTC prices stays lower for longer, so yeah, it can be understandable that even someone who had been fairly aggressively stacking sats in the past 4.5 years might still feel that s/he does not have enough cornz.

TBH, I'm not sure why no coiners are interested in correction because there was quite enough time to accumulate, So why they are now more interested in the one-time buying in FOMO, that won't be a wise move still they can still try their luck.

But the low-coiner are trying to find the ray of light in the coming developments, some people are even expecting a bottom of 22k once again, but according to personal speculation a maximum possible correction will be to the 30k to 32k, in the scenario of ETF approval's delay.


If you had gone to university, then maybe you end up being able to afford to stack $1k per week instead of $100 per week, but the BTC price might happen to be quite a bit higher (maybe even 10x higher) than what it was earlier when such person had lower levels of extra (discretionary) cashflow.

Haha, dear $1k per week for the accumulation of Bitcoin is really interesting but in my locality as per the service rates $1k per week is for only top-grade professionals whereas the competition rate for common graduates with high experience will be around 0.001% haha. A $100 to $400 per week will be the limit in the 9 to 5 profession for a freelancer things can be different.

Your sentence will be a motivation for me I'll try my best to put all of my efforts into making myself eligible to compete for this pay rate. InshAllah  Wink
622  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What will happen to bitcoin price if Solar superstorm 'wipe out the internet'? on: November 16, 2023, 04:00:53 PM
While browsing through social media, I came across an article that mentioned Solar superstorms could 'wipe out the internet' for weeks or months, scientist says. Will the loss of internet connectivity for weeks or months affect the value of cryptocurrencies such as Bitcoin? What will be the outcome?

Source: https://www.foxweather.com/earth-space/solar-storm-wipe-out-internet

What will be the outcome? Hmm TBH, it's really interesting If there's no internet there will be no trade, no volume, and the market will remain on the same level. There are more serious concerns than covering Bitcoin's market value. Defense systems, Whole freelancing Bussnies, computational power, communication systems every possible thing will get disturbed.
623  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 15, 2023, 08:51:07 PM
Observing $36,083.

Not convinced $34,xxx was a local bottom until we retake $37,500.

We need Gensler to approve Spot ETF’s man.

Really, 1 or all of them.
So cheer up for Friday.
624  Local / Other languages/locations / Re: Pakistan on: November 15, 2023, 08:46:08 PM
Asslam o ALikum to everyone !

Trading pattern for Profit

Hi my friends I have learned and read some trading tips from which we can get maximum profit in trading.

Hi bro, thanks for these common patterns omeed ha kisi nakisi koo fiada howa hoga, app kafi time see slowly slowly active too, keep it post theek haa but patterns ki post maa images must honi chaiye for better explanation as main ne aik series cover ki thii some images nai thii so it was not much effective.



Kion k hum logoon ny bear market mein shopping kr li hy, tu abi sahi time ni hy sell kerna ka chayee kitna bhi profit ho Raha ho. I think Hume bitcoin k all time high k tootnay ka wait kerna chayee, aur real bull market mein thora thora kr k sell kerna chayee. Ajj agar link mein mein 3x profit  lay k bahir aa jein, lekin agar ajj sell na kerian aur 1.5 years tak wait kr lein tu yehi 3x profit 50x-80X profit mein bhi ja sakta hy.

Ye kuch zyadahoo gya haha 50X 80X aik project jo kaa already top 20 30 maa oske lia dream haa khbossorat wala magar easy nai ha... Let me epxlain example ka lia app dekh loo currenly market maa top 20 pa TONcoin haa oska capital $5B and 50X se 80X tak kaa lia kitna capital chaiye and you really think inti liquidity Altcoins maa kisi project koo ayee gi except ofr ETH or some other Top names as ADA (ye bi haal filahl possible nai) etc etc.
10x to 20X maajaan nikal jaye gii agar koi abb entry leta haa too. So bear market maa accumulation nai hoti bags filling hoti haa accumualtion ye jo zone end ho rahaosme hoti haa. Almost ahri sansain chal rahi accumulation zone ki bii agee to profit harvesting hogi.

Meine last 2 bull markets dekehi hy aur bohat si gulatian bhi ki hien. Let's suppose app ny link 5$ p buy kia hy ya Sol 8$ p, tu kia app ko lagtha hy k yeh ain ko sell kerny ka time hy ? Yes, bitcoin dump keray ga, correction hogi, altcoin bleed bhi hon gay but app ko Sol doabra 8$ p ni milay ga, na hi Link 5$ p (ais cycle mein).

I hope you can understand what i mean to say. Mein apni koi bhi holding ni sell kr raha abhi. Kuch high prices p bhi hy aur kuch bohat low prices p bhi, but i will not sell until the next bull season kion k 3x c you can make kitchen money, 20-50x can give you financial freedom.

GG dear bikul understand kar rehe hain.. jo ap kehna chah rehe magar dear, esa haa ka ye exit jo hota haa wo aik smjhdar all out hoo ka nai leta..

Thoda orr explain kiyee dete hain, exit bii slowly hota ha jessy accumulation hoti haa like agar abi 35k se market 42k break karti ha aik acha investor kia karee gaa as greed time hoga muplations bi hongi woo 10% ya kuch bi startegy ka hisaab se nikale gaa apni seed investment kaa to secure profit. 50X ka chakar maa apna current profit loss nai kare gaa iske bohat fiade hain chain to apko bata dain gee next post maa.

To apki baat theek ha ye abb humain $8 ka to milne see raha iss cycle maa magar yee os bande ko soochna haa jisko haal filhaal ma market ka pump see faraq nai padta yaa dump see bii woo optimistic haa ka wo 1 year to wait akre ga hii kare gaa achee time kaa to exit.
625  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Some rich person not interest about bitcoin for following reason on: November 15, 2023, 05:04:27 PM
A friend of mine is not interested in buying Bitcoin even after learning about it.
Because according to him Bitcoin is a small number of people who have a lot of Bitcoin. They can easily go down on the bitcoin market if they want to.
Example: Cz. Craig wright & Michel Sailor etc.

Looking forward to the well thought out opinion of the experienced in this regard.


Haha, OP, you got me all mixed up with the name! When I saw the notification for the new topic started by [SAHASAN], I was totally expecting something else. Anyway, whether it's Shasan or Sahasan, doesn't matter! Grin But hey, sometimes it does matter, right? Wink.

Anyway, according to your friend, there are fewer people with more Bitcoins and a fact, but there's a large community just waiting for a drop to accumulate this is what we call the reliability and Bitcoin's strength. even if the market drops there are huge potential buyers to pull back the market to the same level. Weather to invest or not in the Bitocin is totally a person's choice bu before making any decision better analyze the community views, Historical events and upcoming potential adoption.
626  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 15, 2023, 04:53:20 PM
I think it could be the delays with the ETFs, but I don't think it's another reason. If so, it doesn't matter because it is an opportunity to buy bitcoin cheaper. If the SEC or whatever organizations want to, want to delay this, let them do it anyway. When it rises it will hit them in the face.


I also like that more aspirations continue to develop in all markets:

I was randomly reading such news while Bitcoin was aggressively hunting for the 35k range that these consecutive pumps on the fake news are just to create a FOMO by these ETF providers to hunt this quest of FOMO and fill up the bags, at the same time there was speculation if they are really involved in it SEC may raise the question on the adjustment of these pre-accumulated Bitcoina dn it may also affect the approval or deadline.

However, some major developments paused such silent negotiations. Now Gary and some related media outlets are putting together a story of not expecting much from the ETFs. I am not sure WHY. but a healthy correction is the desire of most of late people.
627  Other / Meta / Re: Tag a user to update their broken image links on: November 15, 2023, 12:16:41 PM

Well, I partially agree with your suggestion of fixing it "manually". I wish to have it fixed automatically. Although we have been waiting for theymos to take some action, it looks like 'Do Nothing' has been selected, which I also agree with.

Tagging someone and requesting them to fix the broken images is a good idea, but it would be better if we tag and share the link to the particular post/topic that has broken images.

Hmm, Really good idea, I got your Tag alert last day, I was purely using Imgur for a long time and their sudden policy change impacted my posts for some of the Important topics I've updated the Images for the rest I'm not sure is it good to update them or not. Still I'll try the script in free time hehe currently going too busy these days.

For example, I want @Hamza2424 to fix the broken images in the posts https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=232519.msg61568821#msg61568821.

That's why I love TryNinja's "Single Topic" version.

This is the simplest and fastest solution to broken images. It will not update any of your old posts that you don't want to be touched. It will stay on a single page, and only the posts on that particular page will be updated.

Hmm, I've gone through this topic and found it helping but never tried haha, I'll manually update the posts from which I'll get tagged. Becasue almost most of the topics are still active and have shown some good responses in the past I've updated the Links.
628  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How to detect two different prices on P2P trade on: November 15, 2023, 11:56:53 AM
Hmm, OP that is not called duplicate orders to scam people, actually this happens due to the volatility in the market price at that time, So whenever you click on the ad after analyzing the price of Buyer/Seller to proceed with the order and on next page it gets updated because it gets auto-refreshed with the latest market price by the Buyer/Seller.

Secondly dear please don't mind but these SS are too weird when it comes to reading mode size make sure to edit them with a custom size. i.e
Code:
[img widht=500 height=400]..............................[/img]

These are not things to consider worth discussing while P2P making P2P trade point is your identity, sometimes they process the lower amount by taking a transection fee cut which is wrong. Also, I'm not sure why to buy Bitcoins from Binance P2P hehe as Binance P2P requires KYC verification of level 2 with some documents and selfie recoding. You can directly buy using your credit/Debit card. If your concern is Identity so better prefer other mode for processing P2P trade.
629  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Market Chart November and December 2023!! on: November 15, 2023, 11:46:33 AM
We have touched the price of $37,000, all of which are confirmatory indicators, that we will reach $45,000 before the end of the year, even if I do not exaggerate during the next two weeks.
The price was for a long time below the 30,000 support level, and once it is broken, the price will try to test higher levels before we reach a stability point at $34,000 for the next four months, if the upward trend continues to be 42,000 to 45,000.

I've voted in the range of 40k to 42k because currently market is moving highly bullish and to make a good breakthrough we need a healthy correction which I was assuming this week, still the decider of the momentum will be Friday. If we get a further delay of ETF approval I'm assuming NOV will follow its historical correction nature.

If the ETF approvals get an exception to some next processing tier market will unleash the 45k I'm assuming it to be a delay and from there Fear will make traders uncertain about their positions and the market will make a deep correction to the point of 30k and if this correction happens ultimately the DEC ending will be around 40k to 42k. TBH the whole scenario and sentiments are now depend of the NOV 17th (Friday).
630  Economy / Speculation / Re: September didn't follow its bear cycle on: November 15, 2023, 11:38:10 AM
Hmm, September, Gone November is almost also hitting the ending weeks, September directly follows its bear cycle well here in this industry nothing is reliable if you consider the historical data in the short term, everything mostly goes with the sentiments. NOV mostly people assumed that it would provide the opportunity to re-accumulate the Coins by a healthy correction.

Last night's 1st estimated target was achieved with some of the limit orders filled on the 35k, I'm assuming the second target of around 32k and the last one on the 30k, now it all depends on Friday Let see how it goes.
631  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Not all educated are educated. on: November 14, 2023, 06:48:00 PM
Especially, I do not expect people can be complaining about bitcoin and cryptocurrencies in general that they are causing global warming.

Mixers are seen to be used for illegal activities but the money in banks are not seeing to be used for money laundering and terrorism financing. Among the most fiats used for illegal activities, only little do the government and regulators know about. If there is no bitcoin or other coins and tokens, there will be illegal activities both online and offline and their scam fiat will be used for it.

Haha, Well that an Old debate about Bitcoin and the crypto industry possesses an anti-environment friendly narrative (at least some narrow-minded people think like that), TBH it is just a shit of wrong media reporting, if it is that true why don't they disclose the reality of environment-friendly electric cars reality, the Li-Ion battery used in these cars on the time of manufacturing realizes 10 times more environment polluting substance comparing to an old diesel engine car.

For Bitcoin's use and money laundering, this is also another shity excuse of the hypostatic regulators to control the flow of money, to keep everything under their control. The attribute is promoted by the way it is used is not a concern because people can even use kitchen knives for evil, so should they need to ban the Knife and shart object industry (Just a rough example).
632  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Newbies don't leave your coins in an exchange on: November 14, 2023, 03:14:32 PM

For newbies with a self-custody reminder I want to make them that it's not that simple make sure to realize the network fees, if you are holding for the short term with a lower capital it's is not worth it to move coins to the self custody better prefer a reputed exchange where, you've bought them. In the other case where you are accumulating for a longer timespan, you can consider the self custoday and its more likely recomennded.

The transaction fee is one vital area to consider when you want to transfer a small amount of bitcoin, because the fees alone can eat deeply into your withdrawal, leaving you with little coins left in the none custodial wallet. So it's best to let the bitcoin to accumulate in the exchange's wallet before considering to move it. Recently I tried transferring
a little amount of bitcoin into another wallet, the transaction fee was so high that I had to reconsider making the transaction.

There's No issue with the readjustments in transactions, point is if you have a decent amount of funds and you think it's reasonable to spend the fee, on that time don't be careless while moving the funds to self-custody.

You can save in fees when you are in the position of fewer Bitcoin holders, and interested in hunting more Bitcoin while not being able to afford more to invest from the limit you are already spending. You can consider it as a an accumulation strategy  Grin Grin haha.

633  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Im short trader Im new here but been long time in trading on: November 14, 2023, 03:05:45 PM
Well, congratulations on you making it right and I hope it will work longer on your end but I don't want to expect that to happen to me and to other traders. Why? Because you are gifted enough to see what will happen next while the majority are struggling hard. I still believe that there is no perfect trading strategy that has been developed. I've tried several strategies and many times I fail and lose as well. So I decided not to force myself to think that I could make a perfect trade because that was impossible.

But why dear, why you cant make a good trade by yourself, I'm not sure what type of perfection you expect from your trade, but if a trade is going in good profit it will be considered as a perfect trade in my view (Time limit should be filled properly).

I know when we develop some strategies to trade sometimes they fail but with that failed try we get how know where gone wrong and we can easily track the flaws and remodify that strategy to work in perfection. It's 100% possible to be a self-trader as I'm considering social media sentiments and news tracking in it because this is most likey essential for everyone and if a person is using these mediums to drive his/her strategy to trade he's not relying on anyone because all other risk management, analysis weather its TA & FA or SA are his/her self analyzed.
634  Local / Other languages/locations / Re: Pakistan on: November 14, 2023, 03:00:11 PM
Asslam o Alikum Community

Wessy to kafi gyab gyab saa rehne laga hun still try karta hun ka poss hoti rahain waqfee waqfee see take ap loog humain bhool na jain. Mujhe 2 3 mentions bi aye howe bwoo bi dekhte hain as abi abi free howa hun  kuch khass reading ani ki haa last few pages kii main.

PGP Tutorial For Windows (in Broken Urdu/Hindi)


Haha, Dear apki broken urdu english kafi kafi achii ha and thanks for this amazing post here, Allah pak apko kush rakhe. App bi human duaon maa yad rakhain itna kafi haa or is trah kii posts karte raha krain human or hamari community koo apki waja see achee topic milte rahain gee  Wink.

635  Local / Other languages/locations / Re: Pakistan on: November 12, 2023, 07:05:00 PM
Assalamu Alaikum Bhailog,
Umeed karte hain ap sab log thek hain. Main yaha par active to nahi hain, lekin jab time milta hain, main post check karta hu. Main ye soch raha tha ki ap log PGP (Pretty Good Privacy) ka bare main interested hain ki nahi? Pakistan thread main PGP ka bare main koi post hua kya? Maine English main Linux operating ke liye ek tutorial post kiya kuch din pehle. Aur Bengali main Windows ka tutorial bhi post kiya tha. Kuch din se Android ke liye bhi try kar raha hu. Agar ap log broken urdu main tutorial pasand karoge to main yaha bhi post karu agar permission mil jaye too. But, agar pehle si yaha tutorial hain to post karne ka koi jarurat he nahi.

Regards!
Learn Bitcoin

Walikum Salam,

Dear apko kisi kii permission ki zaroat an appp share karo agar apko achaa lagta haa jab tak app kuch contribute kar rehe hamari learning maa apko kon rook sakta haaa, anyway app post karo dekhte hain InshAllah apko support bi karian gee  Wink.

Also apki iss post se mujhe aik thread ka baree m yaad aya Newbies focus please

Receive Merit - Post your PGP key, add an encrypted message, open for anyone.

Ye topic meri checklist maa bohat time see that mujhe yaad hi nai, but bhai kii post ki waja see mujhe yaad aya agr bhai kuch informative share krte hain app too PGP ka baree maa sekh kaa 2 merits earn karr sakte hoo.. Hehe not a bad deal.
636  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Tips to Follow traders/scalpers (who use Stop Loss) on: November 12, 2023, 06:50:27 PM
Trading without stop loss is a very risk way of trading and not advisable, it can aswell be considered not been professional enough because without stop losses, your risk are not pre-defined and this will make you panic trade because you are not aware of how much you are risking and you may aswell loose your portfolio if there's high volatility in the opposite direction with your trade.

Dear to some level I can agree with your point that trading is risky if you do not have proper stop loss and risk management, but the stop loss should not be random it should also be placed after a proper analysis and market scenario, even if you should consider the stop loss adjustment according to the market sentiments.

I have seen many new traders complaining about their stop loss that the market hit their stop loss price and bounced back, such type of cases happen when the stop loss is placed randomly, to make the stop losses more efficient a trader must focus on leaning about the market psychology to respond with market accordingly.
637  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do not get scammed by this, specially newcomers. on: November 12, 2023, 06:44:34 PM
I saw something on Quora that worried me. Someone said that he lost 1200 BTC to scammers. Then, I saw some people sharing/claiming to be experts in recovering lost bitcoin. They shared their contact details like Telegram IDs and WhatsApp numbers.

I have a suspicion that the person who lost the BTC might be the same one giving out those contact details or advices. They could be trying to trick others in the future who search for help online. Google might suggest similar questions on Quora, and people could end up sharing their private keys with scammers.

So, if you are new to all this, be careful. Don't trust random people claiming to be experts on Quora or anywhere else. They might just be trying to get your private information.

Hmm, interesting OP you've raised a grave concern because most of the time when we search on Google and try to find out the solution for the problem we are going through we recklessly click on Google's top recommendations without measuring whether the results Google provided are authentic or not.

Google algorithm produces the results based on the SEO optimizations and Keywords and as OP said sai when we search for such queries sometimes these types of Qoura topics are also suggested, so better be careful guys as phishers do adopt such tactics to trap you out and you won't even realize that the help you are seeking from a stranger is actually destruction by the plan.
638  Economy / Speculation / Re: My Best Bitcoin Chart Ever on: November 12, 2023, 02:22:38 PM
Hi everyone,
And if you want to know my future prediction, it's of $178,000 in Oct-Nov of 2025. Do not sell. All the best!  Wink

Senior, first of congrats on an epic prediction, I'm assuming as you were confident you would have already accumulated enough for your target, more if we still consider your trend line if any sort of upset happens the support will remain between the 22k to 26k range and this is what potentially being discussed in the TG and on the forum, some of the people are impatiently waiting for a dip.

They hoping to not miss out and wait for a healthy dip toa accumulate once at that time, let's see it happens or not because current market sentiments are highly bullish for long frame and for the ATH I'm still predicting between the 120k to 145k range till the cycles deadline.
639  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How many bitcoins do ordinary people have? on: November 12, 2023, 02:16:46 PM
I think majority of people have none.  Shocked

Haha straight to the point, nice.

TBH the reason behind it is a lack of awareness, people are not educated to recognize their financial barriers, and their thinking pattern is not mature, more on this negative propaganda always keeps putting pressure on people about Bitcoin's reliability.

Still, those who are visionary and recognize how effective potential and influential bitcoin can be in the future, are aggressively accumulating Bitcoins for themselves, and for their heirs. Those who are directly or indirectly involved in the Crypto industry do own some satoshis at least this what i think.
640  Economy / Economics / Re: The Thailand government will distribute money to its citizens. Economists critic on: November 12, 2023, 02:11:46 PM
The government in my country has been providing cash stimulus money for at least the last decade (new leader program). In its aim it is to "protect" the poor, but in reality it only maintains poverty levels. Someone who is poor becomes dependent on stimulus money and reduces their workload because they feel secure.

Well, this would be a nice policy for the poor people, but due to this policy, people should not stop working because it's not money running the economic circle of the country is the service & productivity.

TBH there are a lot of welfare programs running in my country to help different types of people, and it's not enough amount live well in current economic circumstances, most people misuse it some of the needy ones are not getting their allocated funds due to politics and corruption around 20% to 30% of the funds are helping and rest are going to the pockets of corput people. They use such support programs to promote their party, they utilize the government funds on their name for their election campaigns & market purposes.

TBH when I look closely at how unfair the system is I feel so sad about how brutally immorality is dominating. Transparency in the system can only fix it, they are no willing to bring transparency because of how they and their heirs will live in luxuries. 

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