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621  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Low cost but effective solutions to gambling addiction on: January 10, 2024, 04:09:18 AM
Addressing gambling addiction affordably is crucial. Online forums and community groups offer accessible support, while low-cost counseling services and helplines provide assistance. Educational campaigns about responsible gambling raise awareness inexpensively. Implementing self-exclusion programs at casinos and online platforms allows voluntary access restriction. Combining these affordable strategies creates a supportive environment without significant financial burdens.

At the end of the day what an addicted gambler needs is social support.

Having family and friends around that person is a huge help, and it doesn't really cost money.

The issue appears when they are alone. So you need to create extra resources for them.

It's a difficult problem.
622  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [POLL] Using AI to predict outcomes on: January 10, 2024, 04:07:37 AM
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wow, I didn't know that
quite interesting
as some say, the house always win, but I like these movies and stories of people who can find an edge and win big over the house too, be it by luck or by finding an edge...

Yeah, those stories are fun to read or watch.

For example, there is an Australian millionaire that made all his money from gambling.

His name is David Walsh and is now an art collector. He created a huge museum in Hobart, Tasmania. He called it MONA, Museum of Old and New Art.

I read his biography the other day, quite interesting character.

But even he says that he was just lucky.
623  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you blame someone for your gambling losses? on: January 10, 2024, 04:04:34 AM
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Short and precise but it's true, if you win a lot is celebrating with you but when you lose, you'll find yourself alone, and most of the time you are
really putting blame to someone, unlike when you win where most of the time you always wanted to take the credit.

It's always the sentiment where in gambling it's not that easy journey, most of the time you will lose a lot and you will find someone to be blame
for such mistake that you did, instead of keeping it by yourself and look for a better way to accept that mistake and move forward.

Yeah, and the other thing is that every time I talk with a gambler they will always just talk about their wins. They will never talk about their losses.

When they mention how many points or perks they have from the casino I immediately know they have been paying a lot of money to get those perks.

Of course they would say that they also have been winning a lot  Grin
624  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: who Want To Bet On 2024 USA elections? on: January 10, 2024, 04:02:38 AM
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If he is disqualified from running, then he has two options - either support one of his proxies like Ivanka Trump, or kick start yet another resurrection. The second option is quite risky for him, so in all probability he will settle for the first option. But the issue is that GOP establishment may not support Trump's choice. They would rather go for Nikki Haley or Ron DeSantis. And Haley's campaign has so far attracted some of the largest GOP donors, such as Stanley Druckenmiller and Ken Langone. What concerns me is that Democrat leaning donors such as Reid Hoffman have started funding Haley's campaign, just in order to block Trump from getting GOP nomination.

Ah right, yes. I didn't consider that first option.

That's what probably will happen if he is not allowed to be a candidate.
625  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Official FutureBit Apollo BTC Software/Image and Support thread on: January 10, 2024, 03:55:33 AM
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I like the product. Bring mining back to small people, decentralized, quiet etc. Would be happy to support the project and preorder.
But for sure I will not buy a closed source miner, which has never shown that it can find blocks.
Especially not if it is to be used for solomining. (Whether this is right for the target group "are first time miners" is another question.)

I really don't see any understandable reason not to publish the code.

If I could I would. The backend software runs Exahashes worth of hashrate, and finds BTC blocks everyday. Of course you have to take my word for it, and I wish you didn't but I think I have built enough reputation around here that im not some bad actor. Unfortunately to be able to provide a product like this I had to make some compromises I did not want, but we weighed those to be worth being able to get a product like this out to market.

Of course the more successful this product is, the less compromises we have to make...would love to port the firmware over to cgminer and hopefully we can get there soon.

We are now in 2024, almost three years after this statement was made. Apollos have been sold successfully over these years, and a new Apollo II has been recently announced.

You could argue that the product has been very successful. Given that you now can make less compromises, will it be possible to have an open source version of the Apollo miner?

Apollo BTC Standard Software/Instructions


If your purchased an Apollo BTC Standard USB controlled version please find the software binaries for your system and instructions below:

https://github.com/jstefanop/Apollo-Miner-Binaries/releases/

This is the ONLY place you should download these binaries from. If that changes this post will be updated.

Detailed instructions are on the GitHub and inside the start scripts. As noted in the pre-order this is command-line based software and only intended for more advanced users. Support for the software is limited and initial binaries are for Windows and 64 Bit x86 and ARM based Linux systems.


This software is only for users that do not have a Full Package/Node version. Please follow the instructions above in the first post on how to hook up your standard unit to your Apollo Full Package unit for a plug and play experience.

The last official binaries were published in 2021 (Apollo-Miner v1.1)

It would be really handy to have an open source version of this, or at a minimum have a new binary after all these years.
626  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Low cost but effective solutions to gambling addiction on: January 09, 2024, 12:20:09 AM
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There's no fun on free or demo mode which we know that there's no way that you can lose and there's no way that you could really be able to win up money and this is why people would really be not interested and this is why its not really that shocking that people would really be that sticking into those games on which it does really give out that kind of opportunity or chance
for them to make money and this is why they would really be dealing into those games which does have that real balances. Its true that there's no fun when it comes on dealing
up with something that you cant win or something that doesnt give any value. Yes, its fun on some point but it would just simply vanish on some few rolls.

Exactly.

And that shows that the actual interesting part in gambling is the chance to get money. Not the game itself.

Sure, some people might enjoy a game of cards like blackjack for a bit of fun, but that gets boring very quickly if there are no financial incentives in it.

Basically those free games are just ways to attract potential new gamblers into the casino, which after a while they will find it boring and try with money instead.
627  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are successful gamblers seen as addicts? on: January 09, 2024, 12:15:29 AM
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I don't really believe on being addicted forever by one use.

There's also the difference between behavioral addiction and chemical, quite different when you make something a habit than when your body could breakdown due to stop of using one substance
long term heroin users, as an example, can't simply stop using it out of nowhere otherwise they breakdown, at least I saw something about it in the past

regarding using cannabis once,
what if you use it once a week? what about alcohol? a drink a day is ok?

the subject of frequency of use varies a lot from person to person and is quite subjective as well
connects with genetics, behavior, culture, resistance to each substance or how it affects you

quite interesting.

Here is an article about heroin addiction: https://drugabuse.com/drugs/heroin/first-time-use

The thing is that heroin is extremely powerful and intense.

So, after a user does it for the first time, depending on how it is done, how much, how pure, etc, the level of "happiness" or "feel good" they get might be higher than anything they have ever experienced in their lives.

So, a person can of course never try it again maybe. But nothing in their lives will ever compare to that moment. And every time they try again heroin it will be a bit less intense.

That's why they call it chasing the dragon.

This doesn't apply to other drugs such as coffee, cannabis, alcohol, etc, because their "happiness" levels are much lower than heroin and other opioids.
628  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: who Want To Bet On 2024 USA elections? on: January 09, 2024, 12:11:01 AM
Haley has now solidified her position as the no.2 in Republican nomination race. But what will actually happen in the unlikely scenario of Trump banned from participating in the POTUS election of 2024? Is he going to put his weight behind Haley? That is very unlikely as on previous occasions he has spoken against her. But with DeSantis and Ramaswamy trailing in the polls, Haley is the second-most probable candidate for GOP nomination, according to sportsbooks such as Stake. And many of the polls have shown Haley with a bigger lead against Biden, when compared to Trump.

If that actually happens, I don't see Trump recommending any other candidate.

I think he would just continue to try to run somehow.

It doesn't feel like his MO to accept defeat and praise someone else instead.
629  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: I could have won bigger. on: January 09, 2024, 12:09:30 AM
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The point is to be consistent because it is impossible to restrain yourself from being greedy when you win, usually people will feel dissatisfied with a small win but if you feel satisfied with a small win it indicates you are a responsible gambler so you know when to gamble and when. You have to stop gambling, of course as a gambler you have to be able to control your greed.

It's true what you say, don't expect to win millions of dollars, let alone chase it, at least winning a little is more than enough, not always the dealer will be easy to beat, everything requires extraordinary luck, always enjoy the slightest win, as long as it is consistent, of course it will feel good to be able to win, even though We know that sometimes there are more losses than wins, there's no harm in enjoying the victory and stopping playing  Grin

Yes, the key thing is to be consistent.

That's how you actually get results, by consistently doing something (or not doing something).

Of course it's fine if from time to time you fail, but if you manage to consistently do it right, you will see a change in your life.

This applies to gambling but also to anything else in life.
630  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you blame someone for your gambling losses? on: January 09, 2024, 12:07:42 AM
The first thing is,  why should I blame another person for my gambling loses when I don't share my winnings with them, some time why some gamblers fall into this kind of troubles is because of they inability to speculate and predicts the games themselves there by relying on third party to make games selection for them,  and those in this category can easily be known,  since they're always playing the blames games all the time.

But if you see a self-grounded game spectator and speculator you will know and at some point be able to point to the fact that no game is a sure game and at some point,  no matter the accuracy of your predictions you must still rely on luck to win.

Yes, this is a great point.

When people win they are happy to take responsibility, but when they lose they start blaming someone else.

It's like they say: "Success Has Many Friends, Failure is an Orphan"
631  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA World Cup 2026 :Canada/Mexico/United States: Discussion Thread on: January 07, 2024, 10:53:38 PM
In fact the only contender to win the next copa america is Argentina aside of the internal turmoil, because Brazil is another big internal turmoil and also they are gonna miss Neymar for this cup and this team has showed they dont have the strenght of another ones.

I'm not so sure about that, Uruguay is always a great team, and they are playing quite well in this qualification so far.

Argentina is of course a favorite and they are the current champions, but Uruguay is most of the time playing great.

We would have to see what happens at the cup.
632  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Who among you here is gambling at work? on: January 07, 2024, 10:50:55 PM
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Yep, although some people think that they can earn money regularly through gambling, in fact gambling is about leisure, as you rightly said, and it's very stupid to think that you really can earn some good money from this activity. We earn money from our job and it's not worth it to risk losing your job because of doing something for our entertainment like gambling.

I think it is the dream of a gambler to be able to win big and quit their jobs.

That's why they keep gambling, to try and beat the odds and stop their work.

But in the end it's probably worse because they might end up losing their job.
633  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you blame someone for your gambling losses? on: January 07, 2024, 10:49:10 PM
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Is a decision you took yourself. Even if the predictions are made for you by some sites, friends or neighbors, both you have a final decision either to stake it or not. So if you later stake it and lose, there isn't any reason blaming your lose on anyone or the predictor. Gambling can be a lose or a win for anyone and which ever comes your way should be accepted.

True.

At the end of the day it is the gambler vs the casino.

And casinos are now extremely sophisticated.

I don't think there is any chance to win most of the times these days, the odds are simply out of reach for the gambler.

And some gamblers know this, and still blame other people. I guess it's to not feel the responsibility when they lose.

When they win though, they love to take responsibility  Grin
634  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [POLL] Using AI to predict outcomes on: January 07, 2024, 10:46:57 PM
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So far I haven't really been able to see any gamblers who have successfully won every bet or have very big chance of winning every bet because they use breakthroughs developed by AI.
I know that some gamblers still believe that AI is an intelligent technology that has many uses for its users and they think that AI is truly superior intelligence, but they forget that AI is just kind of human-made system.
I myself always think that whatever is created by humans, no matter how great it is and what advantages it has, there will always be something that is much smarter and much superior, one of which is the working system that gambling sites have.
Gambling sites are built as businesses and of course they have various methods or have quite lot of great people who can always outperform whatever intelligence the gambler uses to increase their chances of winning, the casino will always be ahead of the gamblers.
If gamblers succeed in doing this then I sure many gambling sites will go bankrupt because their customers win more, but in reality there is nothing that perfect in the struggle.
The algorithms and how gambling works are not as easy as one might imagine, everything has been designed so complicatedly to make it difficult for gamblers to win every bet.
I think believing in your own abilities will be much better and increase your self-confidence, making it possible to be able to make luck more often.

Yes, and what some people forget is that casinos have special rules such as maximum bets, that basically allows them to have some mechanism to prepare for any issues.

If they detect there's something wrong for them, they would immediately stop the bets, or change the odds of the game.

They control the odds, and they always make them in their favor.
635  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: I could have won bigger. on: January 07, 2024, 10:44:53 PM
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You could have won bigger!
That’s the sort of idea or notion that dishes out loses yo gamblers.

Believe me, you won just what you deserve no question and you took a bet out of what will give you pease of mind except, your telling me your a huge stake gambler of which, $10 doesn’t make that mark really but, it’s worth something to kick the category.

You gambled on an unsure event and like every other bet or gamble, if you lost, you would have thanked your friend but now that you won, you’re kicking yourself. If you were sure that you would win, I don’t think not having to sell just the amount of coin equivalent yo $10 would have been an option. After all, you could have bought even $50 worth of it back should you have won.

So, you won and the best thing with you now is just yo enjoy your win.

Yeah, greed gets in the way sometimes.

It is a random event, and the most probable outcome is to lose, so they were lucky this time.

They probably would have not been happy if they lose more money, so they bet the right amount in my mind.
636  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA World Cup 2026 :Canada/Mexico/United States: Discussion Thread on: January 07, 2024, 03:35:39 AM
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Brazil started the tournament quite well. They literally destroyed Bolivia, with a margin of 5-1, and in this match both Neymar and Rodrygo scored two goals each. In the second match they defeated Peru by a margin of 1-0. Then Neymar got injured and things went downhill for Brazil. First a draw against Venezuela, and then consecutive defeats against Uruguay, Colombia and Argentina. Now the tournament will resume only after 9 months and they have enough time to regroup and undergo introspection. And by then, the new coach will also join them.

Yeah, we will have to see what happens.

Also another thing that most people don't discuss is how well Venezuela is performing in this qualification. They are usually at the bottom of the table, but now they have really good chances to qualify.

I feel that most people simply talk about Brazil not being great but forget to discuss the teams replacing Brazil instead.
637  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are successful gamblers seen as addicts? on: January 07, 2024, 03:33:45 AM
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Gambling is something we all do for one reason or the other, for some it's entertainment and for the others it's a form or means of generating money for their use whichever it is we all are still gambling but then you can't measure addiction by the time we we allocate for gambling alone, some addicts don't spend much time but they make sure to gamble everyday.

An addict who hasn't turned chronic yet and has got other levels of engagement usually don't gamble for long but they will make sure to gamble every day nonstop meanwhile the obvious addict who probably don't have other forms of engagement and probably spends all their time gambling will na look much like like the addict more than the other but they are both addicted with slight difference if the other gambling addict has nothing else to keep him busy and away from gambling often it's very likely they will look like the obvious gambler.

There are also a huge number of the population that doesn't really gamble. Maybe they have done it a couple of times in their lives only.

When someone is deeply inside gambling, they might think that it's normal, but in reality it is not the same for everyone.

It helps to think about other addiction that you don't have, like smoking, drinking, etc. You can see many people doing it, but you don't do it.
638  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Low cost but effective solutions to gambling addiction on: January 07, 2024, 03:31:44 AM
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Yes I agree with your idea that gambling is more than just a fun game, there is something they are after and maybe we can already conclude here that they are after a return on the money they put in, or I mean wanting a bigger amount than the capital money they brought. On the other hand, if they're just there for the fun of it then aren't there plenty of other things they can do without the possibility of risk such as playing online games for example? Obviously, and gambling is someone's choice to pursue something that is basically not easy to achieve.

As you said that if fun is the main priority then I think people will prefer to gamble on a demo account which certainly does not require real money capital and only requires free time, so your assumption is quite reasonable in my opinion and it can be a strong reason why people come to gamble.

Yeah, there is a small amount of fun that people get when playing the free games, but that's quickly gone and the interest of actually making real money starts.

At the end of the day it is the idea of making money that is the addictive ingredient, the games, lights, sounds, etc, are all there to help, but they are not the main thing.
639  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Who among you here is gambling at work? on: January 07, 2024, 03:30:19 AM
You're right speaking on experience, gambling at work make you lose total concentration by affecting you emotionally and mentally depends if you winning or losing. Let me say around last year a friend of mine was lecturing at a school and he also gambling (match prediction) When the game he found that the time he place bet on loss, and that moment he was about to start his next class so seeing those losses affected him behaviourally and he didn't perform well because he was not being concentrated any more

Yes, attention is quite scarce, and when your mind is focused on only one thing, which is what addiction is really, then you can perform well in other tasks, such as a job for example.

This will inevitably create a problem at work for the gambling person as they are not focused on what they should be focusing on.
640  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [POLL] Using AI to predict outcomes on: January 07, 2024, 03:28:56 AM
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AI can actually get prediction gurus and Tipster jobless as they can analyze and process large amount of data and create a model with backtesting.
They have no emotion or bias and they don't miss any things. They have already been in use both on making plans on game or predicting the game and overall results. Their use is on increase because of their relative success. And to add to that, they are still in their early phase, they can do wonders as the models mature.
The place where the AI might still lose is common understanding and new type of development of events that has larger effect that can skew the model.

The thing is that casinos also have access to these AI models, so they will adjust their odds accordingly.

I don't think there will be any major breakthrough using AI to win more than what the odds tell you using AI.

It's just a math model in the end, and I'm sure casinos are even using some margins as well to be sure they don't lose.
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