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621  Economy / Speculation / Re: What's happening in December? on: June 29, 2012, 09:31:31 PM
How is ASIC going to flood the market with coins?

Coins are generated at more or less a constant rate due to difficulty adjustments.

The number of coins generated will obey the algorithm, that's true.  Right now, though, the number of coins on the market is vastly lower than the number of coins that could be on the market - people are still saving hoarding most of them.  Though, I think we've been seeing a trend of less hoarding as time has gone on and more and more people are taking lower and lower profits.  That that's happening is compelling people who would otherwise hold to sell in order to take some profit, you know, before the other guy does and he can't get as high a price for his volume.  When ASIC mining comes online en masse I think that's going to accelerate competition to take profit, as people compete to sell their coins in order to pay off their investment.  This will drive the price down.  Additionally, I think this will be compounded by the block reward halving.

The trend is more hoarding. Fewer people are selling, the selling volume peaked in Feb and March in a panic at prices below $5. Purchases of ASIC miners are long-term investments made by value investors, they'll buy more coins if price gets low, not sell them to break even. The block reward halving actually compounds the incentive for investors to buy, not to sell.

The ASIC reality is a sign of market confidence and value investment. That is attracting more speculative buying which will drive the price higher. Its a matter of weeks before $7.2 succumbs to the upward trend.
622  Bitcoin / Press / 2012-06-29 news.ycombinator.com - Coinbase seeks to bring Bitcoin to the masses on: June 29, 2012, 08:56:07 PM
http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4177605

The article is #1 on HN ("hacker news" aka ycombinator news) at time of posting. Coinbase is notable because its a Ycombinator startup founded by a former employee of Airbnb, which itself is one of Ycombinator's most successful ventures to date.
623  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What's the best NEWS SOURCE for bitcoin? on: June 29, 2012, 08:17:17 PM
Bitcoin articles have been getting bumped to the frontpage at http://news.ycombinator.com more often lately. The #1 article today, for instance (coinbase, because its a ycombinator startup founded by a former Airbnb employee. Airbnb is one of Ycombinator's most successful investments, last raising $112m at a $1b valuation in July 2011).
624  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: PorcFest 2012 -- Biggest Bitcoin event ever on: June 29, 2012, 07:19:49 PM
You buy into all that government fear mongering? Global warming fear mongering for the left, terrorism fear mongering for the right. Government growth for all!

I buy into good science, it doesn't matter who funded it. The US government (other than funding some science) is doing nothing to prevent global warming, in fact they are doing much to accelerate it. Such as invading foreign countries (which increases the likelihood of terrorism, incidentally) to keep the oil flowing. The oil companies fund the climate change skeptics, but that's corporate propaganda, not science.

Corporate tyrrany is just as harmful as government tyrrany. Actually, its hard to know which is the bigger problem, given the revolving door for power-brokers between government and corporations (public and private). I think the real power structure behind the government is the private sector (eg the Federal Reserve, a private corporation whose board-members are all CEOs of private banks and companies).

Am I still a libertarian anarchist?  Grin
625  Economy / Speculation / Re: Financial Risk Analytics-Subscription Service on: June 29, 2012, 04:57:37 PM
Just want to say that I recommend cypherdoc's subscription for anyone with interest in the general markets and not just bitcoin. He sticks to his methodology: "cycle theory" and its ideal for swing trading (watching for the pivot points: swing highs and swing lows on the different timescales, daily, weekly, monthly, yearly). Its quite a bit simpler than Elliott Wave theory, but not as well known. I also like how it provides relatively solid anchor-points across timescales, not getting messy with too many trendlines like other technical analysis over volatile periods. Links and anecdotes on the macro-environment of debt, deflation and whatnot are just background behind the cycle theory.

Its not easy parting with precious coin each month, but I respect cypherdoc for putting his neck on the line with his predictions, and keeping it there even when the markets go against him. He will admit that he's wrong when the cycles become invalidated. But he doesn't give himself as much wiggle-room as some other analysts, who end up with correct predictions no matter which way the markets go.

I think he has an intro newsletter on cycles, waiting for any new subscribers, to bring them up to speed so they can follow for the rest of the month. He's led quite the saga over the past 12+ months (all but the last three months were done publicly in his threads here), calling a top in PMs, a bottom in stocks, and then a top in stocks. By now, I'm following him just as much to see how he'll respond if/when he's wrong as to know what he's predicting.  Grin
626  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: PorcFest 2012 -- Biggest Bitcoin event ever on: June 29, 2012, 09:02:58 AM
Oh man.... If I saw Mary Ruwart buying ice cream with Bitcoins..... wife would've preemptively slapped me. Thanks for sharing!

I thought you were talking about the bit-pay model, but a climate change skeptic?! No thanks..
Wat?

I didn't know who you were talking about and assumed it was one of the bit-pay spokesmodel girls. But when I looked up Mary Ruwart, I learned that she served on the board of a chapter of the Heartland Institute, and concluded that she's a climate change skeptic. Big turn-off, even if she doesn't look bad for her age.
627  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: PorcFest 2012 -- Biggest Bitcoin event ever on: June 29, 2012, 07:27:45 AM
Oh man.... If I saw Mary Ruwart buying ice cream with Bitcoins..... wife would've preemptively slapped me. Thanks for sharing!

I thought you were talking about the bit-pay model, but a climate change skeptic?! No thanks..

Looks like a lot fun. Though I'd be a little worried about getting into drug-fueled political/religious discussions with people walking around "open carrying" Cheesy
628  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker on: June 26, 2012, 01:27:43 AM
629  Economy / Speculation / Re: The bubble has popped, slow decline to $3 on the way on: June 26, 2012, 01:24:59 AM
you guys are crazy


i'm calling bottom now....

Good call..
630  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker on: June 26, 2012, 01:24:07 AM
The ask walls are gone again. Did anyone see it? (i missed it)


The ask wall is there to scare people into selling so the manipulator can accumulate before breaking $7.2. We're in an upward channel in a strong trend.


I'm not surprised anymore by how quickly the picture changes.  I'm sure lots of people are getting really anxious right now.  I don't think we're far from seeing an enormous bite taken out of the bids.  $6.80 is the new $7.20 is the new $32.00.  Maybe back into high $4s over the next 3-4 months and then $5.something becomes the new $6.80?

The trend is up.

Up 80 cents from $5.8 to $6.6, retraced 60 cents to ~$6.03. Then up ~80 cents from ~$6.03 to $6.8. Could retrace to $6.2?

Sellers are not anxious yet, you can see this in the lack of reaction to the ask walls (did not spark a sell-off, instead price hugged the ask wall at $6.7). Contrast that to how the market reacts when a bid wall goes up (panic buying, because trend is up). We've been here before, but that was coming off $2! This time we're coming off $5. It wasn't that long ago.. this time sellers won't get anxious until after $7.2 (or we stall in the $6's for weeks).

So $6.22 was the low? Pretty good call if I say so myself..


20k wall has gone!
rally time?
online ppl on btcchart is increasing

You can bet he'll be back with his 20kBTC, and if he's waiting to sell it for more, then he'll probably have to sell into the bids; and my guess is that when he does that he'll accept significant slippage on the downside because he's going to try to sell at a top.  Whatever price rises we're in store for, if any, are probably going to be nothing more than an illusion.

I told you people: we're in an uptrend. Volume hasn't even picked up yet, and when it does, we'll smash through $7.2.


In an uptrend. Told ya so.
631  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: ***WARNING TO PEOPLE WHO USE MONEYPAK/WALMART MONEY CARD*** on: June 25, 2012, 11:10:31 PM
Its not forgery, they were actual transactions. You're providing records of them after-the-fact. Use some invoice forms, create invoices for each transaction over the past 30 days with the corresponding dates. Stores keep their own merchant copies of receipts, they don't ask customers for their copies when its tax time. They only want your copies of the receipts/invoices.
They want receipts for the purchase of the paks. They want *his* copy of *their* receipts to prove that he has some legitimate connection with the purchase of the paks. He can't create those receipts because he wasn't even a party to the transaction they record.

Green dot neither sells nor advertises MoneyPak as suitable for person-to-person transactions.

I see this now, tough situation.

They specifically said if I don't provide proof of all MoneyPak reloads, that I'm out of luck. Sad
They were lying. You'll get the money back, it just might take 180 days.

Agree. "They" was just one person on the other end of the telephone, not the final arbiter of company decisions. Try back and you'll likely hear something different from somebody else.
632  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: June 25, 2012, 11:03:27 PM
Short at your own risk, I wouldn't even consider it..  More printing is right around the corner.

Well, I'm not so confident that I would've went long waiting for that pop, since its contrary to the trend. But since the trend is down, I will risk the timing to get a bit of short action.

Same reason I'm not selling bitcoin, selling into an uptrend is too risky for my taste. More likely to buy back higher (not lower).
633  Economy / Speculation / Re: The bubble has popped, slow decline to $3 on the way on: June 25, 2012, 10:56:14 PM
People want ROI. The block reward halving will put greater pressure on ASIC purchasers to sell at higher prices to pay off their initial investment.

Not only that, but consider all the investment in these mining rigs. These are different than investments in video cards, which still had some value if bitcoin price sank. These fpga and asic miners would be worthless.

So you can bet any big investors have plans to buy coins when the price gets too low. They aren't using all their money on the miners. They'll also try and buy near price-bottoms to enforce the upward trend, less the long-term miner investments become worthless.
634  Economy / Speculation / Re: Why do people sell bitcoins and move the money back to their bank? on: June 25, 2012, 10:40:32 PM
For bitcoin miners like myself we purchased video cards with 6 month+ payoff time frames so we have to sell constantly when the price is good just to get to a break even point before we start to make real profit.

Miners won't earn profits selling constantly at a price higher than cost. They have to hoard and speculate just like everyone else.
635  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: June 25, 2012, 10:30:48 PM
Gold and Silver traded nicely today Smiley

Got the squeeze/pop I was waiting for. Time open the short?  Wink
636  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: MTGOX was down on Jun 23. Now its back up and running. on: June 24, 2012, 12:01:23 AM
<MagicalTux> someone called order/add without passing a currency couple in the new api (was not possible before, but since we standardized calls it became possible)
<MagicalTux> and order/add didn't check if it had a currency couple, since it was not possible to not pass one when it was created
<MagicalTux> not possible anymore, anyway
<MagicalTux> I'll get a clean announce made explaining what happened and how it won't happen again monday
<MagicalTux> (and maybe I should get myself a really loud pager for these specific cases)
<MagicalTux> We'll get an emergency update posted, main priority is to ensure there was no bigger issue than that and resume trading

Next time, launch new API's after waking up. Not before going to sleep!
637  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: WARNING TO PEOPLE WHO USE MONEYPAK/WALMART MONEY CARD on: June 23, 2012, 05:02:34 AM
Create the receipts and back-date them. Then you can provide them as requested. It will be much cheaper than a lawyer. $1k is too much to let go.

I'm not sure what your saying here? They want EVERY receipt and even if I was able to get a hold of every single person I've traded with, I highly doubt any of them decided to keep the receipt, and I would need ALL of them to have the receipt.

He's saying forge them.

Its not forgery, they were actual transactions. You're providing records of them after-the-fact. Use some invoice forms, create invoices for each transaction over the past 30 days with the corresponding dates. Stores keep their own merchant copies of receipts, they don't ask customers for their copies when its tax time. They only want your copies of the receipts/invoices.
638  Economy / Speculation / Re: new Rawdog video! on: June 23, 2012, 04:55:09 AM
Wow, I actually like is guy now! Hilarious mockery of the paper/physical conspiracy theorists. brotherjohnf even posted this video on his frontpage, the comments are worth a read.
639  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: WARNING TO PEOPLE WHO USE MONEYPAK/WALMART MONEY CARD on: June 23, 2012, 04:12:33 AM
Create the receipts and back-date them. Then you can provide them as requested. It will be much cheaper than a lawyer. $1k is too much to let go.
640  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: MT.Gox account hacked - lost 2k USD - MT.GOX will not explain how. on: June 23, 2012, 03:50:49 AM
A lot of that going on.

I'm willing to bet these are all windows users. What will it take to dispel the belief that running an Anti-Virus program protects them from trojans.. Even in the reddit AMA with the botnet operator, the guy said he uses techniques to keep his bots FUD (fully un-detectable) from AV programs. Going after mtgox passwords (or passwords for other bitcoin services) from trojan keyloggers is the absolute easiest way for them to get money, easier than credit card numbers, bank logins, or anything else. Probably wasn't that common last year, but by now it must be the first thing any botnet operator would search for in their logs.
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