Y esto ¿es una proposición lógica o una opinión?

Statists gonna state.

You are now on my ignore list too, because you respond to good arguments with verbal abuse, condescension and anger, and we all here need to see less of your behavior.

Try as I might... I still don't understand why anyone would voluntarily choose a currency with built-in savings devaluation over a currency that does not exhibit this trait.

Now, going back to topic.  So, what other benefits does random selection of thugs have over electing liars?

Hahaha.  Did anyone else read this raging, intolerant, abusive reply and was instantly reminded of the following GIF?


Blahblahblah seems to have some anger management issues.  I've seen him constantly insulting and hurling abuse at people who think differently from him -- quite a lot of his participation in this forum consists on that.  He seems to have a finely honed bigotry for people who express views different from him, ranging from calling his targets "tards and bullshitters" to telling them "go fuck yourself".  I wish some of us could help him adjust his reactions to new ideas, but clearly he's not in an emotional condition or state that lends itself to listening calmly.

In short: it appears that blahblahblah has chosen this forum to be his pet playground where he angrily throws sand at everyone, without consequences for him, in pure Internet Brave fashion.

He is now on my ignore list.  I encourage everyone else who appreciates polite conversation not punctuated by abusive tirades to just ignore him as well (as I'm sure quite a few people already did).

Have a great day!  :-)

No.  The dichotomy "either children are chattel or parents are slaves" is false.


Ah, so now you have a problem with "my emotions".  Derailing for Dummies tactic engaged!  http://www.derailingfordummies.com/emotion.html


If I had a Bitcoin for every time someone in favor of beating children up has told me "If I accept that using violence against children is very wrong, then the world will turn into Lord of the Flies", I'd own the entire Bitcoin economy.

This is a variation on the theme "If we're not allowed to beat Negroes up, we'd have insanity, cats marrying dogs, white people miscegenation, and degeneration on an epic scale".  Yeah, great "argument".

Hahaha! /thread!

You are, once again, correct.  MoonShadow does not want to have any kind of honest discussion -- he just wants to keep his beliefs so that he can feel good about beating children up.

...might as well make the criminal class a professional trade, amirite?

And be able to look straight at the angry adults he raised, who will hate him.

Nah, you're not willing to engage with anyone.  You're only attempting to excuse your parental abuse (or wishes thereof).  That's why you say (appalling) nonsense and contradict yourself at every turn.

Well, you're a tyrant with defenseless creatures, so of course you would be terrified at the idea that a bigger tyrant could put you in your place in regards to your abhorrent behavior with children.  The "seed of the tyrannical state" is obviously a threat to the "seed of the tyrannical MoonShadow".

He can't, because doublethink.  On one hand he wants to justify his brutal and violent behavior against his children by saying "they're mine, so it's okay to beat them up like any other beast of burden I might have".  On the other hand, he knows full well that his children aren't his property because observable reality, so he has to disclaim that belief somehow.  To rescue his own self-image of an "upstanding father", doublethink must necessarily ensue.

You've taken his beliefs and torn them apart quite well.  I congratulate you for putting this child abuser in his proper place.

Of course.  Isn't that what slaveowners used to do, when negroes were property too?

MoonShadow, I hope you enjoy those sexy children you have there, in full compliance with your belief system that your children are yours.

There you go.  MoonShadow considers his children to be chattel or equivalents thereof.  I called it earlier today.

It used to be that negroes, women and children were chattel.  Then that changed to include only women and children.  Then that changed to include only children, and you're witnessing the last vestiges of this bigoted discrimination in MoonShadow's words of "I have a right to beat up my children because I own them".

It's called moral progress and we're two down, one to go.  Woohoo!

Of course, MoonShadow's children won't be saved from the feudo-medieval beliefs he holds.  They will, unfortunately, be beaten up by this man.  And that pains me, honestly... but there's nothing much we can do about it right now -- the man has violent beliefs, he is anonymous on the Internet, he is refusing to listen to reason, the practical effect is that we cannot influence his behavior.  All that remains is to wish that, perhaps, one or more of his children will recognize that MoonShadow is an abuser and will grow up to not be an abuser themselves.

...it falls onto you, the adult, to be the responsible one and make sure that the child develops in an environment where these calamities are not possible, to the extent that is humanly possible and any reasonable person would or could have guessed that a calamity could take place.  Letting your child run through a busy street, letting your child crawl onto a breakable deadly thing, those are miserable failures on your part as a parent.  This should not happen to you, and I feel sorry for your child if he lives in an environment where these deadly calamities might happen.

Frankly, it baffles me that adults would ask me these questions about child-rearing.  I don't know if they're playing dumb or just are dumb.  "But how will I prevent my child from putting metal things in power sockets, if I cannot terrorize him with physical violence?"  Ummmm, if you're asking this question, either you're not qualified to be a parent because you can't Google elementary things about child safety, or you're not qualified to be a parent because you're looking for shitty reasons to beat your child up.


Translation from "everything the child needed to know": I better act differently because otherwise this big giant who could murder me will inflict pain and terror on me.

Is it any wonder that statism is rampant these days?


At the risk of playing Captain Obvious here:

That which you are doing to your kid, when you brutalize him and terrorize him when he disobeys you, is exactly what the State does to you when you disobey the State.

If you can't see it, it's because you were abused enough times and with enough intensity to come to the conclusion that said abuse is "normal".

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Post edited for being in the wrong venue.

Try again in the split topic where this belongs.

I think it is futile to try and persuade that guy, simply because he has already told us that it is okay to use brutality to "teach" children "lessons", that children are "irrational", and that our facts are "bullshit" because we "clearly don't have kids". This is obviously a guy who has doubled down on violence, so reason ain't going to do the trick. Do you think that a person who beats defenseless creatures up to get his way will understand reason?

Don't waste your time on that guy.