OK, so I agree this looks 100% like a ponzi scheme. But I have some questions for guys that have put money in this so far:
1. Has anybody ever NOT gotten paid?
2. Have you recouped your initial investment after 33 days? If so, and you have withdrawn that after 33 days, you should then have no risk further, even if the scheme collapses.
I'm thinking of just taking $50 I am prepared to lose and put it in to see what happens. If I get my $50 back after 33 days, then anything after that is pure profit.
NB: I am NOT promoting it, just sharing my thoughts on it. Any comments and experiences are welcome.
The project might be the biggest around imho so this is why it lasted that long. At this point I'd highly suggest you to avoid Lara because it may shut down at anytime. You had to join it earlier dude... Yeah, that sounds like good advice. Will be steering clear of this. |
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@Pap0u. Since you put the lottery in the mix, you do not think that Waves will be pumped making some people win in the said altcoin lottery? Surely there are whales biding their time and are accumulating right now getting ready for the pump or maybe pump it themselves.
thats correct the whales itself can control now the price as many weak holders always been shaken when this guys plays around the price but those who believes from the project will hold and allow such things to happen without worrying while waiting for the actual value of waves. There have been time in the past that you will expect Whales to drive the price up but there influence has been weak. If Waves token do have Whales I don't think they are big enough to drive the price to 0.001BTC yet Waves distribution is pretty good with ~6k ICO investors. That makes P&D a little harder than for other coins. I'd probably say the ICO was just oversold tbh.. Oversold + UnderDelivered = We get to ico price once in a blue moon. Correct! Guys stop supporting this BS. Take your bitcoin out of Waves and put it into something worthwhile, there are many great coins out there, you guys are just supporting this farce by buying Waves. Have a word with yourself in the mirror and say "Enough is Enough" how many times do you want to get fooled. Yes, it MIGHT get a pump one day, maybe to 100k before it dies a slow death, Dev dont need to work ever and wont work now he has multi millions. So seriously, stop supporting this BS and look for something else to invest in, because you are wasting your time here. Hahaha! Good try buddy, but you are not getting my WAVES for cheap!  |
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OK, so I agree this looks 100% like a ponzi scheme. But I have some questions for guys that have put money in this so far:
1. Has anybody ever NOT gotten paid?
2. Have you recouped your initial investment after 33 days? If so, and you have withdrawn that after 33 days, you should then have no risk further, even if the scheme collapses.
I'm thinking of just taking $50 I am prepared to lose and put it in to see what happens. If I get my $50 back after 33 days, then anything after that is pure profit.
NB: I am NOT promoting it, just sharing my thoughts on it. Any comments and experiences are welcome.
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The Incent ICO will be launching in a week. Incent is a rewards-loyalty scheme hosted on the Waves blockchain and will hopefully bring meaningful tx volumes and adoption to Waves. Please read the Incent ANN at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1610052.0 and ask any questions - or incentloyalty.com to read more, join the Slack or register for the ICO. We'll also aim to set up a Slack link between Waves and Incent #General channel. This is awesome. I am getting very excited for WAVES. The Incent project seems like a legitimate real world use case that can actually generate revenue for Incent and WAVES. More than what almost any other crypto can claim. Big question now, should I buy more WAVES, or Incent in the ICO? How will the Incent project benefit WAVES holders? |
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Very nice! Thanks for sharing Twiggy! |
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I think it's time people move on from Waves. You guys are missing big holding onto this for a very unrealistic dream. You guys screwed yourself entering at such a high market cap and I'm sorry but even if shit ever got developed and released, you are looking at a 1.5x ICO price at best.
I am already well in profit on WAVES. And if you look at this last price movement based on only one video and a hint that testing will be done soon, then the smart money says WAVES will rocket once the full nodes release. And another rocket once Polo lists. Then the release of all the other goodies down the line... It's a no brainer to hold WAVES for good profit. How much profit? I don't know, we will have to see. |
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I hear the same thing when waves in 36k, then 30k, and no one a good release, then 28k, 26k...
If this nodes dont come in the next weeks, maybe this will fall again, making more people loose some Money
Agreed. Testing is still going to take at least 2 weeks. Price will come down to 29k again in the mean time. Depending on if there are more delays or not, maybe even 26k again. Will up again when the full nodes are actually released. Funny how this two comments cause a dump from 36k sats to 32k. Not need to dolores12 this time. ShooterXD and Grahnite are the new fudsters. Are they really FUDing though..or just giving a good prediction? It's obvious they compliment each others opinon, almost certainly they sold everything @ 36k sats and want to buy them back cheap. Unfortunately I missed the peak. Sold at 35k and waiting to buy at 31k. Lol! |
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I hear the same thing when waves in 36k, then 30k, and no one a good release, then 28k, 26k...
If this nodes dont come in the next weeks, maybe this will fall again, making more people loose some Money
Agreed. Testing is still going to take at least 2 weeks. Price will come down to 29k again in the mean time. Depending on if there are more delays or not, maybe even 26k again. Will up again when the full nodes are actually released. Funny how this two comments cause a dump from 36k sats to 32k. Not need to dolores12 this time. ShooterXD and Grahnite are the new fudsters. Yes, I have super powers . Whatever I predict comes true wrt crypto prices. One comment from me can cause a massive pump or a massive dump. Send me any request for a coin you want to go up or down. Lol! /sarcasm If you could not see it coming yourself, you should really not be investing in crypto, you will just lose your money |
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I hear the same thing when waves in 36k, then 30k, and no one a good release, then 28k, 26k...
If this nodes dont come in the next weeks, maybe this will fall again, making more people loose some Money
Agreed. Testing is still going to take at least 2 weeks. Price will come down to 29k again in the mean time. Depending on if there are more delays or not, maybe even 26k again. Will up again when the full nodes are actually released. |
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Where are the "omg waves sucks" kids now?
They are all crying because they didn't catch the cheap waves at 25k sat, i damn got full bag of 25k sat waves. To the moon. I bought a bag at 19k. Wish I had bought even more at that price !  |
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Update 35K  And back down to 32k. Lol! |
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Things are starting to look up. I hope the momentum continues. Good luck WAVES team.
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Testnet release will be tomorrow?
Hackathon will start tomorrow?
Twiggy.smile can you confirm this?
Not so fast, but I think the coming week will have a few interesting things.  Waves Weekly 9 says Monday, You say not so fast? If test net isn't ready by Monday, the next 10 pages of this thread will be peppered with snarky "absolutely" posts! I'll probably post some #absolutely s myself. Don't let that happen! ABSOLUTELY!! LOL! |
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I wanted to participate in trying to break the network started middle in the week, Is it already finished?
Cant find any information. Was it a secret closed one? When is the next one?
It did not start yet, it will start when a new version releases with updates/fixes. Than one week of hacking and testing is allowed and than after that full nodes will be available. Ugh, more delays...... |
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Let's the devs do their work. Fud, Scam does not help anybody.
If they wanted to run with the ICO money they will be long gone.
I've got one question for Sasha (there is no legal name in Russia like that, and Ivanov is like Jones in USA, btw). Your coinomat assets don't pay dividends for what? 4 months? You took money from people promising them (at least) some income. The last posts dated July 14, say: "Guys pls wait about a week. Coinomat is in the process of transition now. It's summer so some people are on vacation, which makes things slower Coinomat developer returns next week, and we'll make an official ann." (NXTforum.org) And the one after that: "I don't hold any MMNXT. Also I don't trade manually at all. it's fun but I have a bigger fish to fry." SLOOOOOOOWER I thunk is not the word. SACM? Coinomat will be relaunched as Waves gateway, as soon as we have the tokens ready. have a little patience I'm really alexander ivanov, what can I do In Russia alexander/sasha is the same, so I chose Sasha so as not to confuse people. I have no problem with Alex/Sasha, but at least one post concerning that asset would at least get the price where it was half a year ago. I own some nice % and was surprised after installing NXT today (after 6 months out) to see the current situation. Alex, please take care of the Coinomat asset. That's where you started, people are judging you for that. Looks to me like Sasha/Alex is taking very good care of your asset. NXT assets have been plagued by low use, he's about to introduce coinomat to a much larger audience. You think this will increase the value of NXT? And obviously by extension, Ardor tokens once released? |
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I trust the devs, glad I invested in DeClouds. Going to be an awesome project!
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Well well, another week, more promises. Like always. I guess nothing ever changes wrt WAVES. Lol!
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Just answer one question, when are the full nodes releasing? |
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Is 15.12 still the driver to use? If so, where is a good place to download it? It looks like AMD removed it from their list of downloads.
AMD page - manually select driver - (select OS and card) - "download previous drivers & software" on the right Of course useless for newer gen. RX series... So does 15.12 NOT work with a RX470? What is the most stable driver version for a RX470 card then? I seem to get that my miner stops mining and says there is an issue with the nanopool.org pool. Sometimes it would just quit. I have a Powercolor Red Devil RX470 4GB SOmetimes it runs for 6-8 hours just fine, then other times it would just stop. Thanks for any help! I use 16.8.3. They are stable though the Red Devil cards don't seem to like undervolting, at all, so there they throttle ~1150MHz, secondary coin goes a little slower. You can increase power limit though. If there is an issue with the pool, that shouldn't affect miner, I use nanopool and never had a crash. You can set up backup pools if you want (see OP). 15.12 does not work on any Polaris card, they need like 16.8.x or newer, RX 470 needs like 16.8.2 or 16.8.3. 15.12 is recommended for the 300, 200, 7000 series. Perhaps OP can be updated to clarify? Thanks! |
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Is 15.12 still the driver to use? If so, where is a good place to download it? It looks like AMD removed it from their list of downloads.
AMD page - manually select driver - (select OS and card) - "download previous drivers & software" on the right Of course useless for newer gen. RX series... So does 15.12 NOT work with a RX470? What is the most stable driver version for a RX470 card then? I seem to get that my miner stops mining and says there is an issue with the nanopool.org pool. Sometimes it would just quit. I have a Powercolor Red Devil RX470 4GB SOmetimes it runs for 6-8 hours just fine, then other times it would just stop. Thanks for any help! |
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