Of course, that is why I am involved. Just because I am dissatisfied with parts of the system does not mean the solution is some kind of ridiculous fantasy anarcho-whatever system that would have everyone living in caves.
If we didn't have "authority" to force us to do better, we'd be living in caves? Really? Life would be very different, yes. Personally, I think it would be an improvement. I can understand how others may feel different, but I am convinced that the mental image you portray about the state we would be in without dictatorial overlords is way off the mark. |
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Since Whitehurst was and FBI agent people like Ver and the Free State Project call him a "murderer" too. Don't you see how ridiculous those people are and how stupid they make Bitcoin look?
No, I fail to see how that makes Bitcoin look stupid. Does that make all males look stupid? All former US citizens? |
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I didn't do anything except suggest Theymos present his agenda to the French public. It is your perception of that suggestion that seems to be the problem. Maybe you know there is something wrong with your ideas and you are reacting in this way? As someone else pointed out, take your ideas to your friends, family, and strangers on the street and see how that pans out.
Hmmm. I had the impression you were equating them with the murderers. Internet communications, I guess. But why do you think he might have anything germane to discuss with them? And it is a conversation I have been having for decades. But thanks for your suggestion. As for Ross Ulbricht, irrespective of the murder for hire issues, do you know anyone addicted to Xanax or heroin? Do you know how these drugs work?
I see. For creating a venue in which willing buyers can trade with willing sellers, he should fry. Do I have that right? Are you suggesting that had it not been for Ulbricht, such addicts would be free of their affliction? And regardless of whether you say yes or no to the previous question - from whence do you derive the authority to determine what another person is free to ingest into their own body? Do you believe your claim upon their bodies supersedes their own? Incidentally, I know little to nothing about Xanax. I do know something about heroin, however. Yes, I know one person that has been addicted to heroin for decades, others who have been addicted and quit, others that have used with no descent into addiction, and other occasional current users who seem to be free of addiction. Do you know anyone addicted to alcohol? What's your point? Skipping completely around the Waco massacre noted.... As for money laundering, there are large numbers of criminals who have laundered money in order to engage in terrorism, human trafficking, etc. Those are the victims you say don't exist.
Non sequitur is non sequitur. You're telling me that the act of exchanging units of money for other units of money has victims? That's just stupid. The act of terrorism has victims. The exchange of money does not. Welcome to the real world and adulthood.
Now *that's* a mature comment. You look into Waco: A New Revelation, provide evidence that you've done so, and then I'll read your blog. Deal? I'll make it easy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xr9pQ1pIbiU |
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When I first got involved in Bitcoin I listened to the coverage of the first big conference by Free State radio. They ran an announcement several times throughout the conference where they claim all government employees were murderers. In other words, janitors, social security clerks, astronauts, etc. ... all "murderers."
It's a stretch. But isn't that just what you've done? Equated your 'unholy trinity' to murderers? Ver is the one who equates the agents at WACO and the ones who took down Silk Road as "the violent ones" and "murderers."
If Ulbricht is the victim of a disinfo campaign about the hits -- a possibility which I believe plausible, if not necessarily probable -- then I would wholeheartedly agree with Ver's alleged characterization. I'll assume you've never bothered to dig any deeper than the MSM accounts of the Waco incident? View "Waco: A New Revelation" then get back to the discussion. Protip: the victors get to write the "official" "history". Fun fact for today: Lon Horiuchi - the very butcher who senselessly murdered Vicki Weaver while she held her baby in her arms, was on scene coordinating the snipers during the last moments of conflagration at Waco. theymos always presents his chidish arguments that money laudering laws are immoral so what is wrong with presenting that idea to the French public?
Childish? 'Money laundering' is a silly made up 'crime'. Protip2: If a single incident of a so-called 'crime' does not result in at least one single identifiable direct victim, then there are many who would agree that such a thing is not actually a crime at all. I mean - sure - I abide by such stupid laws. But only from a desire not to be thrown in a cage by scary people with guns. |
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In fact, I don't know if anyone has ever been convicted for stealing coins?
Pirate was successfully prosecuted by the feds for the BTCST saga - which at its heart is about stealing bitcoin. That was a civil prosecution - so far. He has since been indicted on criminal charges. |
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I think Ver should go France this week along with Vorhees and Theymos. They can set up public discussion explaining how the government agents who are tracking the terrorists are really the violent ones. Then Theymos can start crying about how money laundering laws are immoral. Then put the whole thing on youtube and see what people think.
Well, seeing as you put this on BCT for the whole world to see, I can tell you what I think. I think that you equating anything Ver, Vorhees, or Theymos may have done with violent murder is absolutely repugnant. |
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US and we are having one of the best years for jobs since 1999
Jobs added since 2008: ~325,000 Increase in workforce eligible population since 2008: ~7.5 million Hell, since 2008, there have been more people added to the permanent disability rolls than jobs created. |
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My SWAG for 2015:
- high of $7669.69
- trough after that of $669.00
End of year? somewhere between.
Yes, you have my permission to point and laugh. But not until the year is up.
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To top it off, we peons in the space get the same kind of favorable tax treatment afforded to rich people in the fairly low long term capital gains rates.
Puzzled. Capital gains are capital gains. How else would you expect it to be treated? |
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I spend about 40hrs a week deving bitcoin related code. you are wasting your life How absolutely condescending. If that's a waste of life, what do you call the time spent trolling a topic you hold in such disdain? |
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it's a jigsaw puzzle we don't have the box for, just slowly fitting the pieces together to see what it looks like, got a couple of corners done, doing the edges...
It truly is a puzzle. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPgZ782KWtg |
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so josh said buys thru paybase would be from exchanges but there not so where are all these xpy coming from.
He's got a 96% premine, and the authority to move whatever inventory he wants. You really need me to spell this out for you? [edit - I probably should have caught up with last night's and this morning's progress before posting... carry on] |
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Isn't it a better financial decision to give the "dumpers" $4/$5/$10 per coin than the $20 that they claim they are going to do?
It would be better, if indeed what they claim is what they intend. Protip: Ponzi scammers claim all sorts of things that they have no intention of doing. If Ponzi scammer knows his time as such is limited, isn't it a better financial decision to sell his 12,000,000 large pile of worthless drek for whatever he can get for it, rather than increase it to 12,000,001 units of drek, by paying real money for that unit? |
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Yeah... youknow.... I'm just looking for a scenario diagram or somesuch showing the flows of value and information between all parties involved in a single example trade. Do _no_ design teams working on 'distributed exchanges' actually do any design? |
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... but when most of the coins were mined out, the motivation for late comers can be a problem
So Bitcoin stops being magic beans for the miners, and becomes actual money for the masses. Money that people will need to earn by applying their efforts, before they are rewarded with purchasing power. Oh the horrors. How could such a money ever hope to work? |
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Hopefully projects like coinffeine will change the landscape soon. A decentralized solution is the most fitting.
Cool - the XCP and Ripple pushers couldn't explain how their systems would handle a decentralized exchange when I asked them upthread. Perhaps the Coinffeine pushers will step up. |
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That's why it would had been better to start denominating things in bitcoin before wide adoption, not using it from the start as a speculative asset  You figure out a way to do that, and the world will beat a path to your door. Oh yeah - I see the smiley now. The distribution could be not exactly what the OP showed, but I think it is unquestionable it is largely unequal among users.
Yet unlike fiat, no one is, nor ever has been, barred from participating. Can't get any more egalitarian than that. |
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I wasn't really thinking about wise people. I was talking more about day traders and speculators.  What do day traders care? Up, down, doesn't matter to them as long as its changing. I wouldn't expect them to care but I would expect them to react. Sure - price goes down, a handful of orders in their 'buying' ladder get filled. They take the BTC and enter a bunch of new sell orders in their selling ladder. Price goes up, a handful of orders in their selling ladder get filled. They take the proceeds, enter a bunch new orders in their buying ladder. ... What has that got to do with a net change in Bitcoin adoption? |
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I wasn't really thinking about wise people. I was talking more about day traders and speculators. What do day traders care? Up, down, doesn't matter to them as long as its changing. |
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I understand fully well that BTC is and how a system like this could benefit society. What I am asking is how in its current form would it benefit society? In case you missed his ending statement, here it is one more time for you:
Dude. The answer is obviously 42. All Hitchhiker's Guide jokes aside, both you and General_A continue ranting rather than respond to the excellent points made in response #42 of this thread made by Death and Taxes. Until you digest those points and figures, and respond to them specifically, you'll likely get nothing but that same answers you find unsatisfying -- because you keep harping on the exact same whine. |
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