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6241  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Bitcoin Gold Price on: October 23, 2017, 04:47:58 AM
What do you guys think the price will be? Its name suggests that it will be expensive, yet its mining is GPU, so I expect it to be way cheaper than BTC itself.
I am not sure if it will be around the ETH price though. Some suggest that it will start off around 50 USD due to people selling as soon as they get it, but I am not sure.
Opinions, please?

i say it wont be more than 100$ Cheesy  
I think that people/exchanges are getting tired of these fork coins, each claiming to be the real Bitcoin or better Bitcoin
I dont even know whats "better" anymore, im just sticking with the main chain Cheesy

I am optimistic the price will reach $100, all depends on the degree of stability algorithm on bitcoingold, not possible equal to BCH because it is second generation. Price shrinkage is very fair but they will stay on the top 10 crypto list. We should wait for them because it will appear in 2 days.
Did you read about the latest announcement from bittrex regarding the bitcoin gold. And it seems the bitcoin gold has so many problems need to be resolved asap. The price will below $100.
Remember bitcoin cash 1:1 with the bitcoin and you will get more bitcoin gold for each bitcoin rather than bitcoin gold itself. that means the total supply will be around 21 million.
6242  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Future of altcoins? on: October 23, 2017, 04:45:31 AM
That is the future, better coins with better tech are comming.....
Sure, that makes the oldest project are in competition to increasing its tech development for the future progress. Just like ethereum with its new improvement about the byzantium hardfork and another future update such as plasma and raiden network. Especially with the pos casper.
The more projects are coming to solve the problem from the old project. But i'm not sure about all went smoothly.
6243  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: what is Ethereum Cash on: October 20, 2017, 07:42:55 AM
Hi, what is Ethereum Cash ,if i have Ethereum in my ethewallet could i get Ethereum Cash
You will never ever forever get your ethereum cash by hold your ethereum in your ether wallet. Ethereum cash just another altcoin or ethereum based asset that already issued to make a money. Just like another ebtc but that has used the different name to give hype to the project and pay a lot of attention from the investors. Visit the announcement thread to get the further update regarding ethereum cash.
6244  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: tezos team break down. on: October 20, 2017, 07:40:06 AM
I read about this yesterday. I hope this gets sorted. It really does sound like an ugly power struggle. One would have thought that these things are discussed before taking investor money. Or it might be a case of them being way more successful than they thought they would be. Either way its bad for Tezos.

They decided NOT to have a cap.. to me that sounds like a plan that is not made yet. If they did have a plan in place, they would have figured out how much money they need, how many coins are issued.. etc..

No hard cap= they just want lots of money

I can say money grabber, Even eidoo is much better rather than shitty project just like teshit. And why? I remember that emir gun sirer just a kind to hype that shit project like tezos. Tezos is the biggest money grabber than The DAO.
Or might it be another DAO?
6245  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What is the best coin for beginners to start trading? on: October 19, 2017, 10:52:59 PM
Please me Im new to trading cryptocurrency. What is the best crypto that I should start to trade? Any expert advice?
For the best crypto you can try to choose those already developed the product but still has very low marketcap comparing with the product itself. Just like EIDOO token that already built the very useful app that will be the future platform. I think that you must try to see that. The marketcap is very low and the next week that will be added into the biggest exchange site.
6246  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What is the Best platform For beginners for Trading....? on: October 19, 2017, 10:50:36 PM
Dear Friends,

What is the best platform for beginners for Trading? What are the main points should be considered as a trader
who don't have much experience in Trading?

You would got to the small exchange rather than use the big exchange site which contained hundreds millions volume in a day. It caused by tho decrease the possibility of the flash dump that you will never meet it on the small exchange site. To prevent you get a heart attack. just like liqui,coss and other it seems to be a recommended place for newbie.
The main point is on your patience dude.
6247  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: ETH after 2017! on: October 19, 2017, 10:46:49 PM
Just have a look at this old thread about ethereum one year ago... https://warosu.org/biz/thread/S1554039

[i ]Now that the price is back down to $12.10 I’m purchasing $6,000. Will update with proof tomorrow. When the price goes to $200 in 4 years, I will have made $93,173.55 profit. Financially I will be far closer to my goal of buying a ticket to Mars and becoming a Governor on Mars. [/i]

He was expecting for the price to raise to $200 in 4 years.. and instead 1 year later it is above $300 and that guy is governing Mars.

I really like Ethereum but I think it has gone up already to its potential; Metropolis might make the price raise further but not too much; 3000% in a year has been already enough..
As long as the ethereum still in the POW and that will not give a lot of the impact to the ethereum's price. The fact that a lot of people are supporting about the ethereum to be the POS system in the future. To determined the fixed supply and those traders will be so easy to make any speculation regarding the ethereum itself just like what already happened with another fixed or Pos system.
6248  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: what the SHIT token ? on: October 18, 2017, 04:16:47 AM
please check guys ...
i dont know who this is ...

https://ethplorer.io/address/0x1bb9e8ea817d56eccc212ce63f7da95298f98719

i have 150 millions token on ethplorer.io
If you are understanding about the implementation of such name and i think that you will be understand about what is the shit token and if you are seeing the word of shit and doesn't it make sense for you to think about the shit token just another shit coin or something else related to the useless token.
Are you kidding me man? Please just try to do your effort to find it in the market if there will be no result for your effort and call them all as shit token.
6249  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: How to mine Using Cloud Server? on: October 18, 2017, 03:45:42 AM
Hello Coiners !

I'm looking for a Full Tutorial on how to mine  FirstCoin (FRST) using Cloud server but i didnt find anything helpful and getting some website that give trial or free cloud servier
i need your help  to  find a good Tutorial and best cloud  server  for free or with low price where I can cover its expenses and make reasonable profits

thanks for you help
I think that to mining use the cloud server will have prohibited, if you are gonna mine altcoin use the cpu or vps or something like that and that just like you are taking the more risk about that. I think that should be better for you to no to do that.
Rather than pay or buy the cloudserver and why don't you just try to buy the GPU and you can use it to mine altcoin.
This should be a better way.
6250  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC speculation before fork on: October 16, 2017, 01:04:46 PM
the price is not yet break the wall of $6000 and it will be down for a while and we can see now, the price is only going in that range. it seems the price is only up and down for $58xx to $56xx and then the price is increase again to $57xx. but if there is too many people become panic, then the price will be down too far and we are too difficult to increase again. i think we can wait for this week and we can only hope that soon we can break the wall so we can increase into $6000.

I noticed that the price seems to be in a roller coaster ride once we hit almost $6000 a few days ago. One hour you will see its going red, then the next minute the price goes to $5800 again. We all love to see to see the price break that elusive $6000 mark but then its the new mental barrier that has been set.

However, I assumed that as we get closer to the 25th of this month, that $6000 price will be breach and I'm seeing around $6200-$6300 before the split. More investors will pour their cash on the market just days or even hours before the actual split. We have seen this scenario last Aug 1 and I think we will see it again this Oct. 25.
The sudden price dump is just a trap and it's often happen in this kind of situation and I'm not surpised at all, it's exist to lure people to sell their bitcoin while the people with big money waiting to grab some of bitcoins.
The $6000 im pretty sure will be reached this month as you said but maybe we're struggling on $5800 level for a while just like when bitcoin hits $4800 and stagnant for a while.
6251  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin can be hacked? on: October 16, 2017, 12:57:01 PM
I love the concept of Bitcoin. I believe the Internet will redefine currency as we know it.  I hope this helps the Bitcoin community to develop a currency that's really resilient to attacks.

But, is it possible?
Bitcoin is backed by cryptography and can not be cracked/hacked by current technology.If you mean can your personal bitcoins be hacked?Sure,if you do mistake by installing malware or some other mistake then sure but otherwise no one can hack your bitcoins from the network itself.In future,we can't say if it will be impossible to hack bitcoin when we have Quantum computers but i am sure by that time bitcoin developers will come with powerful solution to upgrade the network.
Just heard from some experienced people here or maybe read it from the past that your saying is obviously right, it needs resources to hack bitcoin than the resources your'e going to obtain by hacking bitcoin. even duplicating bitcoin is just really hard.
I heard that bruteforcing the bitcoin private key is possible but needed thousand years just to crack a private key.
6252  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Korea To Tax Bitcoin Use on: October 16, 2017, 12:53:53 PM
They're taxing the "use" of bitcoin there and not practically taxing bitcoin so your saying "even bitcoin can't escape tax" is just not a real thing.
But what I'm confused, how the government could track their citizens whose transaction is using bitcoin or even earning with bitcoin, it kinda complicated things to do and the ones who's going to be taxed need to report to the government first.
6253  Economy / Speculation / Re: At It Again: Dimon Breaks Vow, Says Bitcoin Buyers Are Stupid on: October 15, 2017, 11:52:04 AM
At It Again: Dimon Breaks Vow, Says Bitcoin Buyers Are Stupid and Will 'Pay the Price'
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/10/13/jamie-dimon-says-people-who-buy-bitcoin-are-stupid.html

His daughter, who bought 2 bitcoins, is probably telling him to shut up.
See the irony in that article, it mentions Jaime Dimon says that he won't talk about Bitcoin and still he is talking about it. I think at this point no one cares about what he says anymore, I head even JP Morgan was buying Bitcoin.
Becoming such an unreliable source of information he is, isn't he? wonder how much attention he gets while uttering bullshit and always changing statement, it seem that he just trying to control the price and it's obvious, maybe he missed the pump train of bitcoin price and want to buy more, such a joke.
But well, let see how the market react to this stupid statement for once again.
6254  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do we know for sure exchanges giving BTCGold ? on: October 15, 2017, 11:29:22 AM
Is there a definite agreement from the BTCGold team that they are giving away BTCGold for BTC?

Are there statements from Coinbase and the major exchanges?
Typically exchanges will not give out a currency from a fork in Bitcoin, if you want to exploit the opportunity then you have to go out yourself and take your coins, get the private key and then use the private key on the BTCGold or whatever it is network. If you do that then you can nab whatever kind of forked currency you want. But that's the only real way of getting any sort of value from the fork if you have Bitcoin currently in an exchange. If it stays in there and you don't have a private key then it means nothing.
That ain't true. Some exchanges like Bittrex have handled the last Bitcoin fork pretty well and they gave given every user their Bitcoin Cash. I don't know why they haven't yet announced whether they will support the upcoming forks or not. Maybe they think it is a scam...
Some of exchanges that are going to give away bitcoin gold just like when bitcoin cash HF occured is making a notice for their users often through email but may have various ways.
If you don't receive such thing from your favourite local exchanges, you may ask their support. and that's right, bittrex handled pretty well back then.
6255  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Would you still use Bitcoin if it stabilised at around USD$5000? on: October 15, 2017, 11:24:36 AM
Yes, i will use bitcoin even when if it stabilizes around USD$5000 even though according to me there is no chance of such happening in the near future . It will be like a safe for keeping the money secure without any fear of theft.
That's actually true, price becoming stable? that's just a myth, bitcoin have no country backing it up while most of the time price affected by demand, and also, a news could just shake the whole crypto market.
But if it's going to happen, bitcoin will be more convient for paying stuff.
6256  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why people try to create their own coins? on: October 11, 2017, 04:02:32 AM
For example, any "e-coins" that's recently created by so many random people will bullshit project behind it, even they've created their token first before they publish their roadmap, it's simply for money grabbing and they want to repeat the same success as what happened to eBTC, they want to try to hold big amount of total token supply while people who are buying getting tricked and basically wasting lots of their money.
so, people create their own "joke" token is for gaining free money for instant, other relief, is just for fun, for example, shit token, and many more.
6257  Economy / Speculation / Re: Panic sellers got flushed fast on: October 11, 2017, 03:32:17 AM
Panic sellers always lose in the world of cryptocurrency. I myself experienced it first hand when I cashed out my btc when the prices went down fast. Only to find out that it will increase by as much as $200-500 within a week and less than $1000 in a month. From my standpoint, I've learn to read a lot of news, speculate and even ask people for help and advice when the pricing starts to go down.
This is always happening in time to time there re people are just following the trends to sell their bitcoin and there are people are strongly holding their bitcoin and get benefits of it in the future but those who are late from the news and afraid of losing them all of their bitcoin they will sell their bitcoin before its late .. the news and the community can help to know about the price movement because if more people are telling that the price will increase more and posted a some updated news about bitcoin expect that the price of bitcoin will increase so it will depends in trends and news that can affect the price of bitcoin that could encourage people to sell and panic selling.
In world of cryptocurrency, you need to learn how to not give a shit to every event happened and just keep your bitcoin inside your wallet, watching the price everyday will just do useless thing but get alerted when price hits new ATH is a good thing.
6258  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin as in Freedom on: October 11, 2017, 03:13:56 AM
That's why I always will believe in bitcoin. Even if the governments will dissalow it, there will still be a rebelling group trying to hold it up.

Yes I believe too, having its characteristic of being decentralized it is the only way for us to be free in government, means they are not allowed to take control in bitcoin since it is written over its system, I dont think making bitcoin centralized will help us, it will be a burden of every forum user her to gain if are about to think for its change. Bitcoin is freedom in the sense that it allow us to have the peofit we deserve without going into several steps unlike what governments usually do.

Freedom? Just like anonymous, Bitcoin cannot be adopted worldwide without government regulation.  Remember no matter how decentralized the cryptocurrency is when the government requires them to be regulated, they will be regulated.  Bitcoin maybe independent but once it enters certain jurisdiction, it must comply to the government policy in order for it to be used there freely.  Freedom in Bitcoin is just like its anonymity, it is partial and must meet government rules and restriction, maybe adaptive but not really a full freedom because there is an authority above it to either restrict it or allow it.
But see now, some of governments have started to look into bitcoin and trying to regulate it more, whether they'll stand on bitcoin side or just simply ban the bitcoin, it's up to the government but atleast, once bitcoin accepted into a country and can get through the regulation, the popularity will boost up.
6259  Economy / Speculation / Re: how to predict bitcoin price increase or decrease? on: October 10, 2017, 02:50:50 AM
We see sometimes bitcoin price increase or decrease. How I can predict whether bitcoin price increase or decrease.Again, who controll this price.I appreciate if you kindly share your experience.

You cannot totally predict bitcoin price but due to bitcoin being very volatile, rumors or news can greatly affect its price. A negative news will make its price decrease while a positive news can make its price increase. There are key events that would make you speculate where the price will go in the next few days or weeks like what is happening nowadays. Due to the incoming bitcoin hardfork, there are more people who would hold or buy bitcoin so that they can have bitcoin gold as well and for this reason, we can expect bitcoin to increase.

Bitcoin is actually a lot easier to predict than most other markets. If you look at a long-term chart of Bitcoin you will see that it always goes up exponentially, followed by long-term decline and then another exponential rise. This has happened over and over since 2012 and before. If you buy in when the price drops, you are very likely to multiple your money by 3x or more within a few years.
That's it, at last, someone get the basic movement of bitcoin price and its algorithm, the exponential price always followed by massive dump or decline, it's already repeated so many times if you see the graph of bitcoin price since the first released. that's why, so many people prefer to hold bitcoin at the end and always buying bitcoin when the price dumped, but, so many people are just afraid of nothing when the price get dumped so hard.
6260  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: How do you determine whether it's scam or not? on: October 10, 2017, 02:45:31 AM
investing with ico is really risky we can't or it so hard to determine which is which that got the real project or real innovations since it will just relied
on how dev will succeed, even there's a good white paper or even there's a good information there's still a risk that it wont succeed without support
from the investors and traders.
I think you just being sarcastic, by investing into a project, we're not relying on the success of dev, we can choose on our own the best and promising project instead of the poorest one, so we can still determine real project or real innovations by what they offer, their past product or else. if you invest into a reputable people, you will seem to get a good outcome.
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