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6281  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Policy intervention for Bitcoin? on: April 24, 2018, 10:03:13 AM
Do you think the call for inquiry relative to bitcoin at the policy making body like the House of Representatives in the Philippines would help in determining the future of bitcoin and its price?  

Probably yes! When the policy makers call for open public inquiry, it shows they are willing to hear out the people. Few months back, Australia also opened such discussion with their citizens to hear their proposal on the bitcoin and crypto currency. Today Australia is one of the most crypto favored nation. Philippines is coming up fast as a destination of global business outsourcing. Even my company opened up a center in Philippines to support our global clientele. It shows the eagerness of the government to support development. I won't be surprised if they decides to adopt bitcoin in their economy.

However, can you please share any link of news which confirms about this open inquiry extended by Philippines government?
6282  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why gambling is portrayed negatively almost everywhere? on: April 24, 2018, 08:52:42 AM
Gambling is all about luck. You don’t have any control on it and your strategies are just not working out in any case if you aren’t that much lucky someday. Believe me, no skill can have any impact on your results when you are gambling. So why to go for such option that is biggest risky for your money? Why to gamble when you already know you will be getting loss? Think over it.
You should not even be considering a strategy as long as it comes to gambling, but instead just depend on your luck and if it does not pull you through, you move on and find something else to do. However, some people have ended up painting the worst picture in their head as they tend to just look for ways to get rich quickly and then believe that gambling will set that path for them when they should be using their funds for something useful or even saving it.

Gambling will only and always make the pocket of the platform owners richer and the gamblers who have the wrong mindset poorer.

Gambling is the owner's game not the gamblers who have invested on any option. There are people go with the bitcoin and loose all the money over the gambling site. If there are high amount of investors through out the gambling site to play for luck and enjoyment purposes alone.

Since the people loosing the hard earned money on the various gambling site. All the investors showing the gambling website as a negative thing mate.

Gambling is a business just like any other business. To sustain a business, they need profits and it's not wrong. Gambling houses are not here to do charity! When people gamble, they mostly understand the risk associated with it. Majority of the gamblers understand the risk of loosing money if not all. They also understand that they can win big in their luck support them. That is called responsible gambling! One should not gamble with their last saved penny but if anyone with control to his emotions and finances, will never go bankrupt because of gambling.

It's just the outlook of people towards gambling needs to be changed. Yes, there are people who has gone bankrupt because of gambling. But we have seen instances of people going bankrupt after investing in stocks as well, that is also a form of gambling, packaged in sophistication! I strongly believe, gambling is nothing wrong if you play responsibly. The problem starts when someone goes out of control.
6283  Economy / Economics / Re: Goldman & Bitcoin on: April 23, 2018, 10:48:35 PM
After months of Goldman Is Preparing To Launch A Cryptocurrency Trading Desk, Goldman announced that it would like to appoint Justin Schmidt to help it explore clients' interests about bitcoin and cryptocurrencies and allow them to gain exposure to cryptocurrencies.

“In response to client interest in various digital products, we are exploring how best to serve them in the space,”
Tiffany Galvin, a spokeswoman, said in a statement Friday. “At this point, we have not reached a conclusion on the scope of our digital asset offering.”
Now the voices rise from description Bitcoin as a bubble to a virus.
What has been confirmed is that we will notice increase institutional involvement in cryptocurrencies ----> regulation and maybe accepted in future?
 What do you think?

Goldman is a business entity, so they will always try to do a market survey before starting a new venture to estimate how much money they can make out of it. So I won't be surprised if they call their customers for an open discussion to understand the market potential. Also there is a risk factor associated to it. Bitcoin is not yet accepted by the majority of the governments and its status is still unclear. So it is a big risk for a traditional financial institution as it involves their reputation as well. So they will judge the water before jumping into it.

However, if they finally decides to jump into this market, I am sure, it will pave ways for the other big players too. There are many big corporates sitting with tons of cash but they are not investing their money into crypto currency assets, because of the unclear legislation. If Goldman finally steps into this market after studying and removing all bottlenecks, it will be used as a reference to many other biggies and we will see billions of dollars coming into this market for good. I won't be surprise of it finally takes us to the road of legalizing bitcoin.  
6284  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Indian crypto currency exchange takes Central Bank to court against recent ban on: April 23, 2018, 10:25:18 PM
Woah, it looks like they actually have a solid case against the banking ban. I mean, crypto isn't even illegal there so it was clearly an unreasonable decision in the first place. I'm looking forward to a favorable ruling.
The only thing that does actually concern me a bit, is the fact that because of it being a different category, banks for themselves could decide what to do and what not, so how will we fight a bank for ruling its own platform?

How will one open a case against a bank being totally in right when it comes to its own way of doing business? It's a clear sign that we should seriously rethink what banks stand for, and distance ourselves from them.

At first you have the central bank playing a role of importance, and then the banks as separate entities as well. Too many potentially negative variables involved to become a reliable partner for an exchange.

Banks are the service providers. The basic idea of banking is to get deposits from common people and lend that money to the businesses and earn the difference in interest. That's the basic business idea of a bank. With time, it has increased its reach and deepened the root in the society. But we all know nothing can be flawless. I strongly believe that Darwin's theory is also applicable in the business world. If a business model can't cope up with the changing demand of the market, it will be obsolete. Banks were the backbone of the financial system of the society since decades, because we didn't have much other options in hand. However, now we have crypto currency and we are not anymore dependent on the bank for moving our money. Banks are picking up unnecessary fight just to maintain their relevance in the financial system. Instead they should explore options to adopt the crypto currency for a better future and to stay within the competition.  

So banks can't decide things alone. They have to match with the demands of the time. The famous freedom fighter of India, Mahatma Gandhi once said "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win". History may repeat, you never know!

Here is the recent development on the case:
https://cointelegraph.com/news/india-delhi-high-court-seeks-response-from-central-bank-on-recent-crypto-ban-report-says
6285  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BTC vs LTC - The Litecoin Transaction Tells the Story on: April 23, 2018, 09:15:59 PM
Why in the world would anyone want bitcoin nowadays? It's slow, expensive and outdated.

In the cryptocurrency world, a massive transaction was completed last week. One user transferred $99 million worth of Litecoin to another wallet owner. In most cases, one would expect such a transaction to be subject to massive fees. That is not the case, as it is one of the cheapest transaction to ever take place in the world of finance.

At a fee of just $0.40, sending millions around the world becomes a trivial matter. More importantly, this low fee does not delay the transaction. It took around 2.5 minutes to settle the transaction with no central parties or banks involved in the process. Compared to regular bank transfers, this process was at least 500 times faster despite the low cost of conducting the transfer. Banks often purposely slow transactions and hold onto funds to make extra interest on them.

The origin and nature of this Litecoin transaction remain unclear. It is also unknown which parties are involved in this massive transaction. It does show cryptocurrencies are a superior way of transferring large amounts of money around the world at virtually no cost. For anyone conducting remittances on a regular basis, cryptocurrency is the only option worth considering.

https://www.newsbtc.com/2018/04/23/99-million-litecoin-transfer-makes-regular-remittances-look-absurdly-expensive/

If you had posted this topic during late 2017, I would have agreed with you in all true senses. But after the adoption of Segwit, bitcoin transactions have become cheaper and faster. Probably not as cheap as LTC, but bitcoin fees has come down by a great extent. That was the goal behind creating cryptocurrency, to make p2p transfers affordable and faster. It's great see what cryptos have already achieved. This story is another addition to the success list. This one aspect certainly doesn't make LTC better than BTC. It will remain a boss of all cryptos till the time cryptos exist in this world.
6286  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Invest in Bitcoin before April 27 on: April 23, 2018, 09:04:28 PM
Did you see that bounce in Bitcoin?You must be feeling great if you bought the dip on February 2, 2018 for around $6,000…Or maybe you missed that opportunity, simply because you don’t know how to get started.If that’s the case, don’t worry. Shocking news has broken about a huge multibillion-dollar company that has proven my findings to be right…Findings that could help anyone turn $100 into a retirement fortune…But there’s no time to waste, Because I expect it to happen as early as April 27. Don't think is too late to invest now, Make up your mind then buy some coin down now.

Even though I want your prediction to become true, but I am more  interested to invest on facts rather than a stranger's advice. So do you have anything to support your statement? I would love to see something really trustworthy before I put more money into some asset where I already have a lot of exposure.
6287  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin - If you had the choice to vote - Commodity or Currency? on: April 23, 2018, 11:10:35 AM
Let's say we live in a perfect world, where citizens still made the decisions on political matters and you as an individual were given the choice to vote on a subject.

If the choice were given to you, would you vote for Bitcoin to be accepted as a currency or a commodity? Your governments wants to accept Bitcoin, but they do not want a multi-function and open defined technology. They only give two options on the ballot paper.

1. Define Bitcoin as a Currency

2. Define Bitcoin as a Commodity

You have to remember that the definition will determine the future and the taxes that would be applied to the technology. <VAT or Capital Gains> Where will you draw your X ?

Let's see what would happen, if people were given a choice.  Roll Eyes

We can only dream about such world where people were given choice to decide on political and administrative matters. But it will never become a reality. However, to answer your question, I will define bitcoin as a commodity instead of a currency system. Let me explain why,

1. Parallel currency system is not required:
Assuming the government already has an established fiat currency system so accepting bitcoin as a currency would just add another parallel currency system. It would just be an additional way to pay or receive money. So that is not a very effective way of leveraging the power of bitcoin.

2. Commodity won't restrict bitcoin to be used as a currency:
I would like to see bitcoin as an investment. This will provide few additional benefits to the current economic system. Because commodity will attract new investments from the market and due to the price fluctuations, it will provide a source of income to the speculators. Making bitcoin a commodity will certainly not restrict its usage as a currency.  People can still use it as a currency between the willing parties.

3. Extreme price fluctuation is not good for economy:
Yes, you heard that right. Extreme fluctuation can only be helpful if the price goes up and never goes down. But Bitcoin's price can go down to any extent within a very short period of time. So look at the below scenario,

Today's Bitcoin price: $1000
I accepted payment of 1 bitcoin in my store for a goods that costs $1000.

Tomorrow's bitcoin price: $800
I will make direct loss of $200 within a day. Similarly I would make profit of $200 if the price goes up to $1200.

This kind of extreme fluctuations is good for speculators but not good for the sellers of goods and services. It can bring good returns as well as great losses. We don't yet have organized hedge funds who can provide risk covers and not everyone is expert in it.

Even though bitcoin was initially started as a currency but we have deviated from that path long back. It has become an excellent but risky investment choice. So making it a commodity will pave the way for new possibilities.

6288  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why gambling is portrayed negatively almost everywhere? on: April 22, 2018, 11:28:17 AM
Gambling can viewed as a disease or illness, as it has been proven to be addicting.
Like an vice, it's only a problem if it becomes too serious and get out of control.
If you know when and have the ability to stop when you choose, it can be an enjoyable hobby.

Very addicting! Once addiction takes over , theres no way you can control it. You'll be drained financially, it can destroy a family, and worse you cant stop gambling.
The OP has made a point, but in general gambling has a lot reason why it has a negative impact in a person's life and that view could never be changed, for gamling has known to be destroying lives and even family financially and emotionally.

Exactly, its very addicting and it has ruined a lot of lives in the past. How many times we have read that there are many suicides or murders connected to gambling? Right. Too many.

For me this is the number 1 reasons why gambling is portrayed negatively specially countries which is developed. They have seen so many times that gambling indeed destroys families and relationships so its better to stop them before it totally destroyed everyone in the community.

I doubt your view on gambling and that's exactly I am trying to point out. I understand that gambling has ruined a lot of lives but they were probably all addicted to it. Addiction to anything is not good, be it alcohol, smoking, gambling and trading. However, if someone can control their greed and emotion, gambling won't take their lives. These addiction is mainly associated risk to this industry and depends on the individuals. Gambling, as a whole can't be blamed for that.
6289  Economy / Economics / Re: Is hodling good for Bitcoin, and how its affecting it? on: April 21, 2018, 07:03:39 PM
In most advice people can find that holding bitcoins is best choice, but is that really best for Bitcoin? I can't but ask my self, what would happen if we all would just hold our coins? Only answer that comes to my mind is, bubble would occur and bad things would happen.
 
I don't deny that so far holding has proven to be one of best ways of earning extra money, but bitcoin is made to be currency and not asset. So for strong and stable price we need constant flow, which mean constant transactions of buying and selling, not mostly buying and holding. So if we really wish for bitcoin to success in its goal, we must start using it more frequently (at least as much as we can). Number of holders must not be higher than number of "users".

What are you thoughts on the matter?

True! The flow of bitcoin is very necessary for it to flourish so it is better if we can see more numbers of users than holders. But you also must not forget that, holder are those who believe in bitcoin and believe in its potential. So we can't ignore them either.

We mainly have two different types of people in any market. One is trader and another type is investors. Traders are those who frequently execute trades to earn the difference in price and they are the one who likes to take risk. The other set of people are not risk takers and loves to hold any asset for longer time. On the other hand, investors are those who are not willing to take much risk and executes a trade only if there is a significant price difference. But both of these types are equally important for a healthy asset. We can't ignore one type for the betterment of the other.

Traders are mainly driven by the market opportunities. So if a trader sees a better opportunity is ripple today, he will switch his entire fund to Ripple from bitcoin to bank on that opportunity. If would not think twice if the opportunity is prominent. On the other hand, holders would not sell off his bitcoin assets if he spots a market opportunity. Instead he will infuse extra money into that opportunity and keep his bitcoin assets intact. Holders are the true believers. So  a balanced mix of holders and users will be good for the growth of bitcoin. But certainly we can't ignore them.
6290  Economy / Services / Re: Eligma Twitter Campaign(CLOSED) on: April 20, 2018, 08:52:40 AM
Another successful campaign by Yahoo and all payments received promptly. Thanks Yahoo and Eligma team.
6291  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Welcome back BITCOIN - Twitter ^_^ on: April 19, 2018, 11:37:03 AM
After bitcoin's ban in twitter because of unexplained reasons and unstated violations @Bitcoin account in twitter have been reactivated and expected to be posting updates for the benefit of thousands of bitcoin users/followers. Having been used by another user before it was returned to its rightful owner, the said account have been posting not so good topics hitting bitcoin. Yet, the fact that it is now reactivated and returned to its rightful owner i think this is a good sign in the side of bitcoin and definitely to bitcoin users.

For the benefit of the doubt please read this article: https://news.bitcoin.com/the-bitcoin-twitter-account-is-back/

Let us welcome @bitcoin account on twitter guys! Step by step its coming back Cheesy

Not particularly excited about this news. This @bitcoin twitter handle doesn't promote bitcoin, instead it promotes a shitcoin like BCH. However, it's a free world and anyone can promote anything. But this act of twitter doesn't do any impact to the original bitcoin.

I believe, this thread needs to be moved to "altcoin discussion" section, because this is what BCH is, an altcoin.
6292  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Day trade is more a lucky thing or skill on: April 19, 2018, 10:24:15 AM
I'm not sure if I have time to play with charts and trade a lot, like I have seen some youtubers doing.
They make you really believe that is more like a skill and if you are good at it, it works.
My friend told me that is just about how lucky you are, and not a skill.
So, should I stick with holding or playing day trade is a better option?

For me, day trade is 80% skill and 20% luck. People who blindly trade based on their intuition without applying any particular strategy, are among the loosers. They are such kind of people who scream most after they loose a trade. As you are saying that youtubers use a lot of charts for their trading, there's a significance to it and that is the reason why they use it. It is not a rocket science and anyone can learn it. So if you are too lazy for these kind of stuffs, it better for your to HODL. But if you really want to become a trader, take the pain to learn the tricks and strategies. I am not saying that you will win in every trade after learning the strategies, but at least you can limit your losses and recover it afterwards.  
6293  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Significant Trade Volume Triggers Localbitcoins KYC Requirement on: April 19, 2018, 08:46:20 AM
Every business has a good time and a bad time. With this kind of forced verification attempts, the bad time will start for localbitcoins. I am sure a lot of traders will be migrated to paxful after such kind of verification attempts. Even though I didn't get such notification from them because my trade volume with locabitcoins is not very significant, but it's better to be sure than to regret later. I am switching to paxful now and I am glad that paxful is already active in my country with lots of traders.
6294  Bitcoin / Legal / Indian crypto currency exchange takes Central Bank to court against recent ban on: April 19, 2018, 08:27:33 AM
According to a recent publication from bitcoin.com, Kali Digital Eco-Systems, the company behind the upcoming crypto currency exchange "Coin Recoil", has appealed to the High Court in Delhi against the recent crackdown on banks providing services to bitcoin related companies by the Reserve Bank of India (RBI). It argues that the ban is unconstitutional on two main grounds.

Article 19 of the Constitution of India guarantees citizens’ rights to carry on any occupation, trade or business. But by preventing exchanges’ access to baking services the government is in affect preventing people from engaging in the business of their choice.

Article 14 prohibits discrimination based on arbitrary and unreasonable classification. The petition explains that the RBI did not provide a clear definition of what constitutes ‘virtual currency’ and that this ambiguity dilutes any reasonability in what may be alleged as a classification.

I say, at least someone has the guts to do it! So if you see the change, be the change and sign this online petition for a better India!

Sign here: https://www.change.org/p/rbi-make-india-at-the-forefront-of-blockchain-applications-revolution

News source: https://news.bitcoin.com/indian-exchange-takes-central-bank-to-court-over-bank-ban/

6295  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Impact of Bitcoin Price Manipulation by Major Exchange, What's your take. on: April 19, 2018, 08:16:21 AM
Hello readers of bitcointalk, Some years ago the price of Bitcoin could be well predicted and followed by small retail traders but since bitcoin gains it most recent highest awareness in 2017 and made a record surge in price from $1000 to $19,900/$20,000 in exchange, followed by over 50% correction in price it has become very difficult for major players to predict the price of Bitcoin.
Regardless of the continuous increasing awareness of the use of bitcoin with daily increasing demand for bitcoin, its price since the correction in January 2018 has not been seen above $20,000. Personally from general speaking and my own awareness of the market as an hedge fund manager. i would say that the price of Bitcoin is under institution (In this case institutions are Exchange) manipulation base on the following reasons.
1, They control huge volume of Bitcoin in daily exchange
2, They set the major Limit and Stop orders in Bitcoin price hence they set the Bid and the Ask.

I will like to know if you agree with me and what impact you think price manipulation may have in the price of bitcoin in future.

I certainly don't agree with your point here. Definitely they are controlling a huge volumes of crypto currencies including bitcoin but that certainly doesn't empower them to limit the bid price as well as the ask price. IF an exchange is limiting these prices according to the market price, they are doing it to prevent fake volume. Even though I am not aware if any change is doing it, I believe not!

Also I don't understand that fact that the bitcoin price is going down because of the big players. One simple question I have here, If I have 1000 bitcoins  in my storage, I would definitely want the price to soar high on the contrary of going down. because if the price goes high, then only my net worth will increase. My net worth won't increase if the bitcoin price goes down. So why would a big player of crypto currency market want the price to go down? 
6296  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why gambling is portrayed negatively almost everywhere? on: April 19, 2018, 07:50:33 AM
I think those post that you have read proves that there is nothing to look forward to in gambling. It will just make you broke, so broke that you will have no place to live. I have seen a lot of people experience the same thing and I don't want that to happen to anyone else. The best thing to do is to stay away from it. There is nothing wrong  if you do it, as long as your money can afford it and don't get addicted to it.

Yes! Gambling can make you broke if you can't control your greed. That's true for even trading. I have seen people asking questions on how to recover their thousands of dollars losses in trading. I have also seen people winning big in trading and gambling both. I know the owner of wheel99 website had won 23 BTC jackpot from Bustadice. I have seen a person won 37 bitcoins from FortuneJack on March 30th this year. When we look at the negative side of gambling, we also should look at the sunny side of it as well. 37 bitcoins, is a huge amount in my country and I can start my own restaurant business in my city after paying off my mortgage. That is a life changing moment. Gambling helped a lot of people to change their life forever in good way. We must factor in those things when we factor in the negative things while talking about gambling.

It's entirely your choice whether to gamble or not, but certainly that doesn't give rights to anyone to show gambling in a negative way of earning money just because of the risk it involves.

  
6297  Economy / Gambling discussion / Why gambling is portrayed negatively almost everywhere? on: April 18, 2018, 10:56:01 PM
I am not a veteran in this gambling industry so trying to understand what majority of the people thinks about it.

I have seen a lot of threads in this section as well as in other online forums which always protrayes gambling as a negative line of earning money online. I have seen people comparing gambling with alcohol addiction. I have seen people actively trying to discourage others from getting into gambling industry. What's wrong with gambling?

It is just another business and also legal in many countries. People who buys lottery tickets are also gambling only.

 In trading industry, you bet on your speculation and in gambling industry, you bet on your luck. In both trading and gambling, there is a risk of loosing money. So why trading is seen as a good way of making money and exactly opposite for gambling?

I belive it is just a social taboo about gambling and we need to rethink our stand towards gambling. It is just another legal business. What's your view?
6298  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are There Any Regulations for Bitcoin Casinos? on: April 18, 2018, 10:13:06 PM
Due bitcoin hasn't been announced at all that it's legal in my country, it's obviously not yet seen that there is regulation or oversight for bitcoin casinos like online casinos on certain sites. Online casino sites can be opened, and the government still looks indifferent on it.
It's in the country where I live, But perhaps for a country that has already legalized bitcoin, I don't think it will be banned although there is no regulation or oversight because it's more involved at the own risk in gambling on the casino.

Bitcoin and gambling are two different thing and you must not mix these two. It is very much possible for a country to legalize bitcoin but not gambling or casino business. The exact opposite can also happen. So if a country legalize bitcoin as well as casino gambling business, they won't have any issue in providing license for bitcoin casinos, otherwise not!
6299  Economy / Economics / Re: World debt hits new record: good for BTC on: April 18, 2018, 06:45:24 PM
164 trillion is huge pile of money. As per the latest data, the GDP of world is 133 trillion in terms of purchasing power parity. So the debt is increasing the GDP by almost 23%. That's a matter to worry for sure for global economics.

However, it certainly doesn't correlate with crypto market. Because Bitcoin's market cap is mainly dependent on the retail investors like us. The organized sector has not yet invested in bitcoin in a significant level. So I am sure that crypto market will remain as it is and will continue to grow.

Because this huge amount of debt is accumalted by the governments and organized financial sector. Even though banks and governments are going to recover that debt from normal people like us, any large impact on bitcoin market is not warranted at least now. Because this amount of debt was existing since last few years and within the same time, we have seen enormous growth in bitcoin market.

I believe, people will be more interested in bitcoin during an economic slowdown because bitcoin and crypto market is usually not influenced by the governments.
6300  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Newbie in crypto trading, whelp! Bot or human? on: April 18, 2018, 09:48:55 AM
Hello guys,
These past few weeks I always losing in crypto trading, I'm considering using bot to trade. But I can't afford to buy one that cost so expensive.
I need guidance. Any pro traders can guide me through this chaotic world. Can't bear any thousands dollar loss 😢😢
Crypto hero needed!

Human intelligence is far more superior than any bots available in the market. You are probably loosing because the entire market is loosing now. The mode of the market is bearish and it is hard to stand out as a trader, so you are not alone who is loosing money in this market. Trust your instincts and wait for the right time to trade in this bearish market.

You can certainly test out any bots but I am sure, you will finally stick to your own intellect and decision making power after using a bot. Instead, take time to educate yourself about new and existing trading techniques before investing another dime into trading. A lot of trading materials are available on internet and take time to read and understand those. Equip yourself with better knowledge instead of using bots, that's profitable in long run.
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