are they including patients in the 'atrisk' group like pregnant, heart issues, diabetic. ....
you can search by yourself https://clinicaltrials.gov/I made for you a selection HQC: https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/results?term=hydroxychloroquine&recrs=adfm&type=Intr&cond=%22Respiratory+Tract+Infections%22&phase=12[hydroxychloroquine | Recruiting, Active, not recruiting, Enrolling by invitation, Unknown status Studies | Interventional Studies | "Respiratory Tract Infections" | Phase 2, 3] https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/results?term=hydroxychloroquine&recrs=adfm&type=Intr&cond=%22Severe+Acute+Respiratory+Syndrome%22&phase=12[hydroxychloroquine | Recruiting, Active, not recruiting, Enrolling by invitation, Unknown status Studies | Interventional Studies | "Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome" | Phase 2, 3] https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/results?term=hydroxychloroquine&recrs=adfm&type=Intr&cond=%22Coronavirus+Infections%22&phase=12[hydroxychloroquine | Recruiting, Active, not recruiting, Enrolling by invitation, Unknown status Studies | Interventional Studies | "Coronavirus Infections" | Phase 2, 3] Check exclusion criteria of each trial listed, related hearth issues (?), normally protocol specify very well what are these "heart issues", or you find a generic phrase like: "Any disorder, unwillingness or inability, not covered by any of the other exclusion criteria, which in the investigator's opinion, might jeopardise the subject's compliance with the extension of the trial" Find below some exclusions examples (taken from links): Patients with long QT syndrome or severe ventricular arrhythmias; Patients using drugs that prolong the QT interval; Patients with retinopathy or macular degeneration; (these can be diabetics but I haven't find a specific exclusion for diabetic patients). Use of medications that are contraindicated with hydroxychloroquine: citalopram, escitalopram, hydroxyzine, domperidone, pipéraquine;
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Price continue to collapse... (-22% in 24 hours!)
100 new token (1 old token) 0.013421 USD 31 March 2020 100 new token (1 old token) 0.016828 USD 29 March 2020 100 new token (1 old token) 0.0347 USD 15 March 2020 [Start of bounty 0.260958 USD (1 old token).....]
Another big dump since last update... - 40% !in just 5 days! 100 new token (1 old token) 0.008001 05 April 2020
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Molti siti o servizi online sfruttano la nomea del bitcoin per spillarvi denaro. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ibb.co%2FrtHkv7N%2FSchermata-2020-04-04-alle-14-23-03.png&t=663&c=1LgIv0YChy82sw) Molto spesso si tratta di vere e proprie truffe alcune anche articolate e difficili da identificare per l’utente medio. Qui vi segnalo un paio di link in cui vengono citati alcuni tra i peggiori esempi 1 2, ovvero i presunti “programmi di trading automatico di cryptovalute” (definizione copia+incolla da uno di questi siti, bitcoin-revolution, bitcoin-code, bitcoin-trader, bitcoin secret, bitcoin formula.... tanto per fare alcuni esempi, tramite i principali motori di ricerca troverete molte più informazioni). In pratica questi siti permettono di arricchirsi facendo nulla (!)
... generare segnali con un “livello di precisione del 99,4%”, ma sappiamo che questa è una bugia. .... un sistema che “precede i mercati di 0,01 secondi”, ed è questo lasso di tempo che consente di essere costantemente redditizio
ma attenzione, semplicemente “investendo” del denaro.
Oggi vi parlo di un caso in particolare ovvero “bitcoin-revolution” (che rimanda ad una società estone Prestige Financial Markets che si occupa di opzioni binarie.)
Qui maggiori informazioni dal sito della “CONSOB” Austriaca 3Qui il WARNING della CONSOB (mancanza autorizzazioni … )
4E’ inutile dire o spiegare che non esiste nulla di tutto ciò nel mondo reale, figuriamoci l’esistenza di un fantomatico bot che permetta in automatico (!) di far guadagnare tutti quelli che lo usano ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
Insomma non spiego dove sta l’inganno (tra l'altro collezionano dati sensibili come nome cognome email telefono), ma se non avete tra i vostri hobbies l’utilizzo di hyip o ponzi capite benissimo che queste cose esistono nella fantasia dei loro creatori e in chi vuole arricchirsi in maniera subdola.
Oggi leggevo l’ennesima notizia a tema coronavirus 5, su un famoso quotidiano italiano (tra i 10 siti più visitati da noi italiani ed il sito di notizie più visitato a livello nazionale almeno nel 2019) A causa cookie o altre diavolerie tecnologiche, in basso mi è apparsa l’ennesima “fake news” o pubblicità mascherata da notizia (ancora più pericolosa e moralmente inaccettabile) quando appare su un sito di notizie, in cui veniva presentato proprio uno di questi servizi!.
Utilizzando un noto attore italiano come testimonial (non pagato suo malgrado mi verrebbe anche da far notare).
![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ibb.co%2FB6Z11Ym%2FSchermata-2020-04-04-alle-14-05-12.png&t=663&c=u3A3KxeO4NMZcg) Ovviamente potranno negare il coinvolgimento (sono siti esterni su cui loro non hanno alcun controllo), in questo caso specifico parliamo di uno dei siti definiti da Fortune come "produttori dei peggiori contenuti del web” 6, ma è chiaro che da questi click, i proprietari dei siti ricevono un guadagno, ed si dovrebbe evitare che appaiono certe pubblicità ingannevoli che sfruttano chiaramente la notorietà di personaggi famosi.
(Un po come theymos che nel forum non accetta di ricevere pagamenti da siti truffa per i banner pubblicitari).
La parte più ironica, è che lo stesso giornale in passato è stato vittima di quest pubblicità ingannevoli, dove sfruttando la loro grafica veniva pubblicizzato la stessa tipologia di sito 7![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ibb.co%2FbH1fv8S%2FSchermata-2020-04-04-alle-13-54-30.png&t=663&c=fp6CmgYZAt1oZA)
Repubblica non vende bitcoin. Non vi indicherà mai “scappatoie della ricchezza” né vi consiglierà l’acquisto in tre mosse di strumenti finanziari miracolosi capaci di stravolgere la vostra vita. In questi giorni, scrollando la vostra bacheca Facebook, potreste imbattervi in post sponsorizzati dove compare la nostra testata. Una miscela di fake news, truffe e furto di dati con cui non abbiamo assolutamente nulla a che fare.
Quindi riassumendo, non usate invano il nome di Repubblica.it, non usate la loro grafica e la loro notorietà.
Ma lasciateli guadagnare tranquillamente utilizzando dei banner che pubblicizzano servizi farlocchi sfruttando in maniera indebita la notorietà di altri personaggi famosi !
Repubblica non suggerisce su Facebook scorciatoie per la ricchezza.
Affermazione corretta! Lo fa in maniera indiretta tramite il loro sito internet! _______________________________________________________________________________ _______________________________________ REFERENZE/BIBLIOGRAFIA 1 https://www.wired.it/internet/social-network/2019/08/05/facebook-bitcoin-future/2 https://www.striscialanotizia.mediaset.it/news/bufale-finanziarie-sui-bitcoin-quando-i-vip-vengono-utilizzati-come-testimonial-a-loro-insaputa_9775.shtml3 https://www.fma.gv.at/en/prestige-financial-markets/4 http://www.consob.it/web/area-pubblica/avvisi-ai-risparmiatori?viewId=ultime_com_tutela5 https://firenze.repubblica.it/cronaca/2020/03/24/news/coronavirus_a_pisa_un_cartello_schock_sulla_porta_della_dottoressa-252176800/6 https://fortune.com/2014/08/18/taboola-outbrain-battle-bad-reputation-each-other/7 https://www.repubblica.it/tecnologia/social-network/2019/08/03/news/facebook_post_truffa_con_false_pagine_repubblica-232685325/
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...per il resto, sopra, mi dissocio totalmente...sta menata dell'età, chi, come cosa, ma porca l'oca, la vita è uguale per tutti...ha la stessa importanza per tutti, sono morti per coronavirus e basta, senza sto scassacoglioni di virus, sarebbero vivi STOP la mortalità è altissima inutile insistere su questo punto, chi si ammala e si sa con certezza che si è beccato il covid...i numeri son questi, deceduti/ guariti...per il resto dei malati certi...io gli auguro tutto il bene del mondo chiaramente, ma non tutti purtroppo se la caveranno https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf653.000 sta a 212.000...è pazzesco....ne mancano 750.000 malati...e stiamo viaggiando a 75.000 nuovi malati al giorno, che purtroppo arriveranno a 150.000/200.000 gg...spero tanto di no non so forse sono stato frainteso,ovviamente la vita e un bene inestimabile ed ha lo stesso valore per tutte le persone indipendentemente dal eta,sesso,etnia,lavoro etc avevo sollevato la questione del eta(cosa confermata dal tg 5 di ieri/ media contagiati +60,media decessi +80) solo per dire che le persone giovani(di eta) se lo prendono meno il virus e quindi con le dovute precauzioni potrebbero anche fare del jogging al parco senza rischi eccessivi... Il problema (da quanto riferiscono gli epidemiologi/virologi) non sta tanto nel fatto che siano o meno a rischio di vita (cosa che in realtà non è vera, vedi sotto), ma nel fatto che possono diventare vettori di contagio, e quindi anche se asintomatici o con sintomi simil-raffreddore, contagiare persone a rischio, ed alimentare ulteriormente il contagio. In ogni caso dai dati in nostro possesso*, non è escluso che anche loro possono rischiare conseguenze letali * https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-age-sex-demographics/Parliamo di circa 2 casi ogni 1000... considerata l'alta capacità di contagio...
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"profittevole" ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) credo che fino a che pensiamo sempre e solo in maniera speculativa non riusciremo mai a cavare un ragno dal buco ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) e forse è proprio per questo che quando abbiamo avuto abbastanza RAIBLOCKS li abbiamo svenduti per un paio di centinaia di euro
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same layout, same scam... but this time WHOIS data currently unavailable.
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![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ibb.co%2Fwgq8Tvr%2Fdownload.jpg&t=663&c=eCuLIpBTpgNtdw) E' in inglese ma rende l'idea lo stesso... Ci sono tanti che "insistono" inutilmente su questo argomento per criticare le scelte dei vari governi (l'influenza ogni anno ammazza xxxx persone). Il dato reale è un altro, ovvero che solo lo 0,05% di chi si becca un influenza passa a miglior vita, contro il 2-5% di chi si becca il COVID19. Considerata la capacità di diffusione del virus (praticamente come un raffreddore) è facile rendersi conto come un virus del genere sia molto più pericoloso e letale di una semplice influenza ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif)
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HI @TheUltraElita, I don't think it's useless at all. Since there is not a simple telegram account behind but a website. If someone decide to make a google search about this scam will receive an help and avoid to join scam. If someone want get a scam I know It's pretty impossible to avoid that ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif)
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What happened: Another "distribution" that try to stole your ethereum. This has been posted in Eristica Telegram Group but probably will spread also in other telegram group Ethereum officially launched its ЕТН2 token. A free distribution of 1000 tokens to all users has begun. For several days, ЕТН2 will cost 1$ Get a free token on the official website https://cutt.ly/JtUtmkFImportant: your wallet must have a minimum of $ 0.1 to pay gas commission. Scammers Profile Link: https://web.telegram.org/#/im?p=u1116415048_14541365927145884219Reference Link: http s://cutt. ly/JtUtmkF htt ps:// erceth. online/
Amount Scammed: N/A Payment Method: Ethereum private key / passphrase /mnemonic Proof of Payment: N/A PM/Chat Logs: Additional Notes: Some screenshots ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ibb.co%2FMfYSckt%2FSchermata-2020-04-01-alle-20-58-17.png&t=663&c=h5jYfVfmuqlnTg) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ibb.co%2Fk2F5rt5%2FSchermata-2020-04-01-alle-20-58-47.png&t=663&c=LPD9scusiSzLow) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ibb.co%2F161DSXD%2FSchermata-2020-04-01-alle-21-03-35.png&t=663&c=eAt1cC3fusKAcw) And Who.is of htt ps:// erceth. online/ ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ibb.co%2F5LVktsR%2FSchermata-2020-04-01-alle-21-15-13.png&t=663&c=gfspSY3rvqB7dg)
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![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) @davide72 basta che ne esce uno ogni 4-5 anni e siamo a posto ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) certo a beccarli prima che "esplodono" è praticamente impossibile, ma chissà .... Infatti hai ragione, l'unico motivo per cui ancora oggi guardo attentamente i progetti che escono , perchè tra i tanti scam e progetti pattumiera potrebbe uscirne uno buono che ci cambia la vita! Speriamo Bollo. aiutiamoci tra di noi ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) guarda sto cercando nel mio poco tempo libero e con i miei scarsi mezzi, di creare una sorta di "algoritmo" che permetta di valutare/scegliere nuovi progetti che vengono presentati ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) spero di poter presentare presto qualche dato interessante Per il resto non ci resta altro che aspettare la prossima altcoin che ci renderà tutti un pò meno poveri di adesso ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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@JayJuanGee Yes I have been attacked, probably you haven't read all messages ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) I tried to explain why some data are very weaks! This is not only my interpretation but the vast majority of people working in this field (99,99%) will agree with that. Thats it. Just a note: last but not least, I am not pretending to be a pharmacist. I am a pharmacist ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) If you, bitbollo, edit your post after I have already read it and responded to it, then I might not notice some of the additions or changes, which included this @jjg part of your earlier post, that I just noticed (due to nutildah's citing the "pretending" versus "am" assertion... shout out to nutildah.... ). 1) Of course, I have not read all of the messages, but I did notice some of the attacks, which probably you brought some of those onto yourself, even if perhaps you have been making some valid claims. 2) regarding your claiming to be a pharmacist.. I don't really have any reason to doubt you, but still I doubt that it really matters for all intents and purposes in this thread very much about whether you really are a pharmacist or you play one on tv. In other words, the fact that you feel some kind of need to keep asserting your credentials or your status or whatever the fuck likely indicates that you are both taking these matters too personally and you are NOT even really understanding or recognizing your ongoing lapses into appeal to authority errors in your ways, methods and approach in this here thread... In other words (am I running out of words yet, no couldn't be cause I gots me selfie lots of words), we likely give less than two shits here about your purported credentials (whether true or not), but if you are ready, willing and able to make your arguments or your rebuttals, then that would be great. You are more than welcome to present your ideas and to knock us down in various ways with actual substantive and meaningful arguments and evidence to the extent that you have some (and it seems to me that you do have a decent amount of that, but it does not either mean that you are 100% correct or that others do not have a right to attack or undermine your claims or to present their own claims). J̝̬̦͙̉̈̒́̄͋͛͡͡ă̢̝̻̫͈̻̰͚̠͟ŷ̨͍̰͖̑̌͡J̵̩͐̔́̋̏û̡̼̜̟̺̼͚̺̰͔͜͝ą̝̬͎̳̩̭̃͗̔n̨̡̛̞̗̲̗̪͂̓̍̑̀́͒G̻̖̤͙͎̗͉̓̂̆͋͜͡ȩ̛̭̯̘̹̲͑̉̉̚͜ė̶̹͔̰̤̼͍͖̼̰̂̋̉ or JayJuanGee (with and without ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) ....) 1) When I see people spreading (like a virus ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) ) FAKE AND DANGEROUS CLAIMS (proflylactic usage of HQC ![Cry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cry.gif) ... ) and the only data published are about usage on patients with infection...... and the same user press on this argumentation without ANY VALID CLAIM.... and others start to insult me since I just make a joke regarding the fact that "I am Italian, and I also "love" science".... yes this is personal stuff and I wan't accept since in the real life anyone has their job and profession... but I don't want to talk anymore about it. 2) I put this as a disclaimer since I have seen too many people talking about SERIOUS STUFF claiming to be "experts" or able to make evaluation when they are not able to read a disclaimer in a pre-print, or are not able to understand what is the meaning of a clinical trial... We are talking about disease, about people that die and are literally suffering. You don't know how it's Italian situation right now, it's better for you, trust me! Plus there is not only COVID19 but hundreds of horrible diseases and I can't accept to be fooled when I am talking about this. I have just tried to explain from a scientific point of view (I am sorry but this is the cruel reality, this is my JOB!). I don't pretend to be 100% correct, we are talking about science (OF COURSE), I don't need to make any claims: I will not receive ANYTHING from it, but only trolls that despite forum's rules delegitimize what I have said. It's unacceptable that people make fake claims or spread lies regarding treatment without any real knowledge of the argument. ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif)
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BUT many thanks for correction MAGIC PROFESSOR ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) ! ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) I'm not the only one doing a bit of trolling today. I didn't say anything that contradicted anything you said, and I certainly didn't "correct" anything that you said. Just a note: last but not least, I am not pretending to be a pharmacist. I am a pharmacist ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Don't you have pills to be moving from a big bottle into a smaller bottle? You quoted a BIGGER STUDY ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) I hope you don't want to be taken seriously ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) but it's ok... nevermind ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) at least you made me laugh No pills, I am working right now only in injectables ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) !!!
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'Italian man of science'
![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fpbs.twimg.com%2Fmedia%2FDNLQ0WIXUAELjd8.jpg&t=663&c=VGkikhhSuHWQ2g) Try to not make the troll with me ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) I am not a plumber I am a pharmacist But you're probably going to shoemaker when your car is broken... nothing wrong I can understand your reasoning. I have just tried to explain how these clinical trials should be interpreted. This is not my opinion, it's called SCIENCE. You are wrong if you tried to discredit what I have explained here since we are not talking about magic pills or about snake oil!
Nobody is trying to discredit what you said. We get it: small sample size, non-randomized, not even single-blind. There is a much bigger study on the way which of course hasn't been peer reviewed yet, but it has similar results. 81 patients? ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) NO FREE LESSONS! LMAO BUT many thanks for correction MAGIC PROFESSOR ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) ! In the meantime, the FDA has approved emergency use of chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine, so obviously they don't think its a bad idea. Let's just hope none of us get to the point of having to use it. There is nothing strange and this is not the only treatment that receive this authorization... I don't need to explain this to you https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5232377.msg54086003#msg54086003@JayJuanGee Yes I have been attacked, probably you haven't read all messages ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) I tried to explain why some data are very weaks! This is not only my interpretation but the vast majority of people working in this field (99,99%) will agree with that. Thats it. Just a note: last but not least, I am not pretending to be a pharmacist. I am a pharmacist ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) @davide72 basta che ne esce uno ogni 4-5 anni e siamo a posto ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) certo a beccarli prima che "esplodono" è praticamente impossibile, ma chissà ....
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And, he knows way the fuck more than any of us about anything...
You have doubt about it? Why people get a degree or a specialization in some field? If your car have a problem you ask information to ... SHOEMAKER?!? If you have problem with law... you ask help to ... BRICKLAYER!?! If you need a liver transplant... wait let me guess I love your LOGIC .....you ask help to the guy who builds PLOWS! LOL If you feel clever evaluating wrongly scientific result ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I am agree with you Follow these "magic" suggestions ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) I don't stop you!!! No that's it: I will not provide ANY INFORMATION nor ANYTHING related treatments, even in MP! ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) You should ask bitbollo. He's a P̙̓͊͟h̢̿aȓ̨͉͡ṁ͙̟̣̃̓à̧̜͂͠ͅc̮̼̩̓̌́ì̮̝̗̃̃͆͟s̞͋ṭ͛.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg54132982#msg54132982 You with other some friends have no idea of what we are talking... this is one example ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) but you haven't the instruments to understand. I hope that you will never had reason to ask help of a pharmacist because you appear the typical person that who will buy and drink tons of "SNAKE OIL" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snake_oil
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Among patients with COVID-19, the use of HCQ could significantly shorten TTCR and promote the absorption of pneumonia. I dont fucken understand all this shit. But really? I would never have said it! Hey pompous fellow tell us.....
Many thanks for this ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) ! i must get a degree forthwith
No. I explained this to you too: A degree is not enough to speak at same level!
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NO MORE FREE LESSONS I Told YOU!! This article is a preprint and has not been certified by peer review [what does this mean?*]. It reports new medical research that has yet to be evaluated and so should not be used to guide clinical practice.
Testing a new treatment in.... ?!? 31 patients
Yes confirmed, You have totally no idea what we are talking about.... thanks for confirmation! * https://www.medrxiv.org/content/what-unrefereed-preprintBefore formal publication in a scholarly journal, scientific and medical articles are traditionally certified by “peer review.” In this process, the journal’s editors take advice from various experts—called “referees”—who have assessed the paper and may identify weaknesses in its assumptions, methods, and conclusions. Typically a journal will only publish an article once the editors are satisfied that the authors have addressed referees’ concerns and that the data presented support the conclusions drawn in the paper.
Because this process can be lengthy, authors use the medRxiv service to make their manuscripts available as “preprints” before certification by peer review, allowing
other scientists to see, discuss, and comment on the findings immediately. Readers should therefore be aware that articles on medRxiv have not been finalized by authors, might contain errors, and report information that has not yet been accepted or endorsed in any way by the scientific or medical community.
We also urge journalists and other individuals who report on medical research to the general public to consider this when discussing work that appears on medRxiv preprints and emphasize it has yet to be evaluated by the medical community and the information presented may be erroneous.
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