It's Changelly again. I haven't heard of anywhere else of that nature attracting that much hatred and screaming about this, or any at all in comparison. There are also plenty of theories about its links to HitBTC, Freewallet, Bytecoin and other services that have a questionable rep.

Kraken's had their fair share of problems too, primarily with USD. Their EUR banking relationship has always been rock solid as far as I can tell.

Bitfinex themselves have said they bank like criminals, opening shell accounts and keeping banks in the dark. That's not going to be conducive to smooth sailing. And of course they had no banking for months a while back.

I wouldn't ever bother with them for attempting to obtain fiat. There are better options and always have been.

No one said it was going to be easy and the process of crypto's birth is going to be messy and bloody. Everyone should've made themselves aware of the possibilities.

It'll be fun if Bitmex drives the price to zero since the nutters who populate it only get paid out in BTC too. That would teach them to put two and two together finally.

Today has been the embodiment of a phrase that's popped up a couple of times - bulls take the stairs. Bears take the window.

May anyone feeling the willies right now wake up to a brighter dawn.

To be fair most of the stuff put together during 2014 sounded incredible but didn't amount to much. Plenty of it disappeared without a squeak, 21.co, Buttercoin, Circle's BTC retail.

This time around it's an order of magnitude more heavyweight. You don't get any bigger than stuff like Bakkt though I fully expect it to launch to overwhelming indifference.

But of course. I'll be staying put until 2020 and then having a mull. Despite the current grind the amount of money and effort being thrown at growing this space is not letting up and that counts for more than a bunch of punks on Bitmex. At some point it's going to bear fruit.

What's he ever done to anyone? He publicly sold last year pretty much at the peak.

You're right about the SEC though. As time passes things look more warped than ever. I don't think ETFs had much of a chance to start with. It's definitely looking less appealing than ever.

His calls for BTC lows were being sneered at comprehensively just a short time ago. Now it's possible they may be totally on point. He's still a silly billy with very creepy hair though.

Since GBTC launched after the low of the previous bubble it's going to be dead interesting to see how it reacts to all this.

While $1500 is conceivable, $50,000 was conceivable too until it wasn't and more than a few silly sausages in the media were predicting that as well. It's going to be interesting to see the reporting on it compared to 2014 when the profile was that much lower. I think we'll see the 2-3 grand level but then again 1500 isn't much below that.

Time to go off and build toilets for desert island unfortunates for a year or two.

I think we can be certain that this time around the cloggage is entirely organic. On top of hash rate going to the Bcashes there's that good old panic dumping too. People run for the exits even when there's not enough room for everyone to squeeze through. Either people will be saved or outraged. We'll see what happens tomorrow I guess.

Let's get this shit done with some good old fashioned merit abuse.

If a global borderless uncontrollable currency can be felled by three assholes then it doesn't really deserve the title, not that it's entirely down to them. It's sentiment piling upon sentiment to form a cascade effect. Once the bots join in then the train will have left the station and won't halt until the destination has been reached.

Um, you do realise ETH is a hard fork of... ETH, right? ETC is the unaltered and uncompromised ETH.

Bitcoin itself has never hard forked. The more alts that do fork off it and prove to be a worthless heap of shit the stronger its position becomes. It's like ants crawling across the back of a rhino. Everyone knows what the real deal is.

We wouldn't have gotten the bubble we did if China was IN.

Alts went up so outrageously on such a stunningly empty basis that I'm amazed any of them are worth anything still.

When will you accept KYC as the next inevitable step to more people getting involved? It won't happen without it.

It'll be fun again. Not for a goodly while though.

Cor blimey. What's it going to take to get him to give up? At this point he's setting on fire whatever it was caused him to be invited on all these shows to spout off. Better to blow his brains out on air. That would be the definitive statement the world is looking for right now.

It's still going the way he predicted so there's no need for him to make a new comment. I follow him on Twitter but he's clearly a man of action, not words. Haven't heard a squeak for months.

The one time most young people get enough free money to play with these days is when their parents cark it and leave it to them. More than likely they'll rush straight into property as it'll be the only chance they ever get.

Ideally young folks will drive the creation of a fully functioning and increasingly separate crypto economy. That's more sustainable than just parking investment money and doing nothing.

Fairly sure it ain't his money and I'm amazed he managed to fool that Calvin geezer into believing the rest of the world thinks he's anything other than a deranged psychopath.

I've seen mentions from him that he'll keep going until 2026 making a loss. I think Calvin is more than likely to pull the plug rather than let an antipodean maniac flush the last of his pennies down the toilet.

I think we'll get a resolution pretty rapidly no matter what it winds up looking like.

His crystal ball diverged from the predictions that made his rep a long time ago.

I'm still interested in what he has to say but he's just as human as the rest of us. He had a good run all the same. Maybe he'll bounce back.

This time around though we may be contending with a meltdown in the wider markets in which case things get a whole lot muddier. Bitcoin rose during an unbroken run upwards in everything. If that changes it could mean several differing outcomes.