People lost more money holding bitcoin for the free money than what they made in bitcoin gold which dropped from $500 to $140 in 24hrs!

Think about this folks before people pulled their BTC out of cold storage BTC was $6100, and now its $5700 that's a $400, loss to buy your BTC back and put it back in the cold wallet, better sell that "FREE" BTG quick, but for what?

11% of BTC community supported the FORK, 88% opposed the BTG scam, how is it that such a MINORITY can scam the majority?

How is to possible that exchanges and criminals can get the BITCOIN-ORG to comply in the criminal fraud that is BTG??

BTG is a criminal fraud, that has been known since August 2017, read this forum, its full of detail.

Minority criminal take over BTC and rob 1,000's of BTC owners who fall for the "FREE BTG".

Why does the BTC community participate in the fraud??? It was a known fraud all along,

Make a note of  which exchanges and pools played along with the fraud, and which kept back at arm's length.

Know who is criminal in the BTC playground

Satoshi must be going nutz watching this bullshit

All BTC-FORKS are FUCKS, and the NYA will be biggest fuck of all

Play-Back not being in BTG is intentional orchestrated power wants to destroy BTC and rob the Market-Cap

Of course BTG as a  block-chain will never exists in the real world, since August 2017, they cloned BTC about 60%, and the value added code to date still doesn't compile or run, and thus it never will.

How is it that THEY (BTC COMMUNITY) locked down BTC trading for 24 hours for these "FORK FUCKS"

How is it that the MINORITY is allowed to ROB the STUPID Majority???

Why is nobody willing to protect the un-informed??

Which DEV?

The chinese guy who is "SECRET" see github btcgpu/btcgpu, or the college prof that the chinese mob just hired 2 weeks ago??

What about the fact that the BITCOIN-GOLD software doesn't work, doesn't exist, and was  NEVER EVEN developed??

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Everything about "BIT COIN GOLD" is everything that SATOSHI HATED, just read his notes and see he was a Libertarian and hated all government and triad/koshner-nostra mafia's that control world $$$

https://sofiaglobe.com/2017/10/26/interview-bulgarias-martin-kuvandzhiev-bitcoin-gold-developer/

So this is really getting interesting this guy doesn't have shit to do with the chinese launch of BITcoin-Gold, it was always orchestrated by China and ran out of youbit.net, which is obviously chinese owned, but now they put a 'faggot' on the face of the coin, and remember this poor 'college prof' was only hired by the chinese mafia 2 weeks ago, so he can hardly be blamed for the ICO SCAM that started in August 2017

Ok, good for you, I found they didn't work in 375 or earlier, they changed how you did  this stuff

So it sounds like 384 buys you nothing

For me on my cards I could never modify the transfer rates on the gpu until I had 384 running, earlier device driver had the commands, but they didn't do anything, after I installed 384 everything started working perfectly,  I think I went from 375 to 384, & I'm quite pleased now that it all works

384 is preferrable, I'll tell you why, on linux there is no GUI like windows to config the over-drive/over-clock stuff,

Only 384 has the nvidia-settings/nvidia-smi cmd-line properly setup to allow you to control fan and memory clock, thus if you want to get the full power out of your CUDA-CARDS I would be running 384

In summary if you care to roll up your sleeves in the cmd-line world of "nvidia-settings" then go for 384, if you don't have any desire to max the over-clock potential then stay with a older release.

If your a newb & don't know what I said above, then google the stuff below and learn what it does ..

#!/bin/bash

sudo nvidia-xconfig -a --cool-bits=28

[ the above is a special flag that enables the following ]

nvidia-settings -a '[gpu:2]/GPUGraphicsMemoryOffset[3]=100'

nvidia-settings -a '[gpu:2]/GPUMemoryTransferRateOffset[3]=100'

nvidia-settings -a '[gpu:2]/GPUFanControlState=1'

nvidia-settings -a '[fan:2]/GPUTargetFanSpeed=80'

# you need to run the above everytime you boot the machine

#!/usr/bin/env bash

nvidia-smi --format=csv --query-gpu=name,power.draw,fan.speed,temperature.gpu,clocks.video,clocks.mem

# this is just a diagnostic script, so you can see the current settings before you fiddle

# memory transfer rate is the critical on cuda for ethminer or equihash +500 for gtx-160 +1500 for Gtx-1070, and +1800 for Gtx-1080
# graphics is best kept below +150 it doesn't do much for equi or eth mining, same for all cards

# keep you power below 60% of max rating with "nvidia-smi -pl N -i M" where N is watts ( 95 for gtx-1060-6), and M is the i' card in smi
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nvidia-xconfig -a --allow-empty-initial-configuration --cool-bits=31 --use-display-device="DFP-0" --connected-monitor="DFP-0"


#You need to run line everytime you add or remove cards.

NOV-1? It's now what 26? Depending UTC, "fork' block came&went 3 days ago, not more than 2 lines of C++ code has been added to the github since 'fork', the CODE is inoperable, and no element of that code exists in a functionable usable state, not server, not seeds, not wallet NADA, for some software to appear NOV-1 is INSANE, your going to get nothing more then than you have today, which is NOTHING. Hell "Replay" was never even considered! Why pray tell? Cuz from day one this project was managed by non-programmers.

You take a 'man month mythology', you take 'shit', and its now 26OCT, and you tell me 1NOV, some 4 days away SHIT will become GOLD, when some 1K++ man hours of "GOOD PEOPLE" need to make this happen.

Sure you can ARGUE that a "lottery" can be ran on GITHUB and the next 3 days 100% of tested functional code for main-net and test-net will just appear? As of right now there isn't even a working blockchain.

Sure just OFFER "25 BTG" and have some NERD pull a 'REPLAY' out of his ass, and maybe a DNS SEED server as well.

I ain't going to happen folks they'll just tell people to "WAIT", and hope this thing quietly dies, I think this is why the TEAM-BTCGPU has added no new c++ in the last 3 days to the project, they know that working-code was NEVER in the plan

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All bitcoin forks are fucks, get over it, trying to find good in any of this is a circle jerk, a few idiots got some free BCH so they support the fork, and the same idiots support SEG2, but the fact is nobody should be piggy-backing on BTC, as its the only real deal.

Late comers where it be government, or chinese mafia ( triads ), all want  piece of bitcoin, including NYA ( new york kosher-nostra mafia ), all these players want to balkanize BTC.

Nobody can support this who truly loves Satoshi's Original Dream.

If you don't support the original Satoshi, then start from scratch with your own block-chain.

ALL Bitcoin Forks to Date have been "Bitcoin Fucks" ran by criminals in either NYC, or HK/Shanghai, nothing good has come from these forks.

The fact that BTG got BTC to be locked 24 hours and even ever taken seriously just shows the the BTC community is allowing itself to be ran and controlled by MORONS.

It's still a good idea BITCOIN-Z essentially did it too, but as also a poorly deployed ICO that now makes it worth less than 10 Satoshi ( about 1 nano-dollar )

A real BITCOIN based on equihash that works and has its  code written tested first then deployed is a DAMN GOOD IDEA, problem is the community can't allow the CHINESE ASSHOLES who only want to deploy worthless ICO's to run the show.

A step back must be taken, and accept that all BITCOIN "FORKS" are fraudulent FUCKS

Not a new idea to TEST your code, before your release a product, but these assholes don't give a fuck about "MINERS", they don't give a shit about anything other than getting "FREE BITCOIN" from stupid people. Guess what it works, very well, the GREED of the stupid caucasian feeds right into their hands, look at all these UTUBE sites of slick guys talking about trading shit-coin and you can make $1000 into $100M in a few days,

They already banned this shit in CHINA, that's why they took this show to RUSSIA ( home of yobit.net ),

ICO's don't have shit to do with MINING, in fact ICO's like BTG ( bitcoin-gold ) have NO intention of mining, they have pre-allocated coins for themselves and they have no plan of allowing the public to mine until the difficulty becomes astronomic, and then you have to PAY them 'fouders fees' in BTC in order to collect your shit-coin, the shit never ends.

What is needed is to go back to the CRYPTO-ANARCHIST model of the block-chain/merkel tree and have nothing to do with NYA,BITMAIN, or any asshole in NYC or HK/Shanghai

Nothing will happen YOBIT.NET is a russian website that can be reployed and nobody will care

What is sad is the 1,000's of people that SOLD real BITCOIN that had value and traded it for this SHITCOIN

Here I didn't link above PROOF of my assertion, here read it  for yourselves this is from GITHUB where 100's of TOP MINER DEV's all read the code and call these asholes out as frauds, they were NOT even smart enough to compile the code after they ran SED on 20% of the name "Bitcoin" to "BitcoinGold", +60% of the shit still say's "bitcoind" and shit like that, this btc-clone was done by a chinese progrmmer at 'team-asic' working for $1/week.

Then 2 weeks ago they bring in the "Professor starbucks" from UKRAINE who is supposed to sort out the 'shit.'

https://github.com/BTCGPU/BTCGPU/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aclosed

Read it and weap folks this is some real serious sick shit.

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U can have a BOT make a btc-clone for 0.1 BTC on the net, with 100% compilable and targetting, and for 0.1BTC extra they'll pre-mine and deliver 100%, for years there has been white papers on how to make a btc-clone, these chinese jack-asses at BTG didn't even bother to google the subject, they only did 41% of the SED mod's, and have added no value to the base code.

I blame the BTC community had they not been promised "FREE DICK-CHEESE COIN", they would not have brought there BTC out of cold-storage and traded it on YOBIT, thus in a way you can say "A fool and his BTC are quickly departed".

Have you tried to wire the USD??

My bank wouldn't do it, on my lash D3 order, I had my bank wire, they confirmed, then I went to Bitmain and they didn't get the money, and then back to the bank and re-requested the wire, this all under the bITMAIN 10day window for $$$ when you order a high demand item,

What I learned is that my bank will NOT let me wire my money to Hong-Kong, sure they will not come out & say it, but they made the process so miserable that I finally just gave up.

Wires ( from USA ) aren't easy anymore, and now there are so many levels of klusterfuck that I can understand why BITMAIN doesn't want to bother, they would like USD, but they have figured out that their USA based clients can't get them money on time.

BTC as you all know they will not take, only BCH, because BITMAIN needs people to PAY USD for BCH to keep the price up and not collapse, thus buying BCH in USA on coinbase ( IRS exchange ) and then sending BITMAIN BCH is just an easier way for them to get paid, you to get screwed by FEES that far exceed the 'bank' if they weren't so fucked up.

BCH is BITMAIN's baby they have every interest to create a market and then on their end keep the fund's in "CLEAN" bitcoin.

BITMAIN doesn't have much of a future the 7nm isn't coming soon and they're tops out the S9 doesn't pay for electricity and by next month niether will l3 or d3 or any asic for that matter pay for electricity

I think their model is clever fork bch, and use their hw sales to create a demand buy side market, by the time hw sales die the bch can be flipped over to BITCOIN or REAL-GOLD.

[ Last I looked it was BCH 'bitcoin cash' they wanted and NOT BCC "bitconnect' is a well known scam-coin, but if BITMAIN owns it then ditto for what I say above, its all about market-making of these chinese shit coins, don't forget that these miners cost ZILCH in china to make. ]

There's CODE, its just the normal BITCOIN-CLONE that doesn't compile or work

Only an expert can make it compile, it breaks, there is no seednode, there is no wallet or replay

There is nothing, there isn't even a working block-chain, all there is a WEBSITE, and a few russian exchanges are trading the virtual coin.

The fact that this 'fork' was so well promoted, and that it locked up BTC for 24 hours shows that some super higher power of butt-fuckery is involved in this SHIT-COIN.

All WEBSITE and NO SOFTWARE, where have we seen this before?

This is what happens when a CHINESE ASIC HW  firm decides to ICO a GPU BITCOIN, you get BTG.

Much talk about bitcoin-gold BTG but to as of still NOW, nothing exists,

Sure they cloned BTC, and post the source on GITHUB, and made a few changes, since the "FORK" they have not added code,

The code doesn't compile without being a C++ expert, once you get past compile you must debug 1/2 dozen segmentation faults,

The 'wallet' is disabled, the seed-nodes IP exists, but there is NO DNS at the IP.

There is no block chain, note this is +7 days into the ICO being traded on YOBIT-NET

Fork has come & gone, but nobody bothered to write any code, replay doesn't exist, but if somebody can write it they get 50 BTG, funny nobody at BTG thought about hiring DEV's prior to the 'fork'.

But nada worry, cuz its trading on EXCHANGES for $500 USD per BTG, but don't worry they pre-mined 200,000, so somebody made 1/2 BILLION USD for writing a website and promising BTC community free "dick-coin" if they accept another fork.

Does anybody here see the INSANITY involved in all of this? How non-developers can orchestrate a fork, how BTC got locked down 24 hours, how they got 1,000's of BTC users to bring their BTC out of cold storage, ....

When you see a klusterfuck orchestra that is this well orchestrated look for a CONDUCTOR

What we do know is this ran by an ASIC chinese guy who is hostile to BITMAIN, the ASIC guy don't support GPU, but he knows shit about software, nor can he hire software people, but what he can do is KILL any notion of GPU-BITCOIN, and that is what they have done here.

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proof of above assertion can be found here on GITHUB where developers who actually read and compiled the code call out these frauds.

https://github.com/BTCGPU/BTCGPU/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aclosed

I have been dragging my ass for +1 years about nicehash, everytime I visit their site the rules change, and its clear that the fee's exceed earning,

A few days ago I big the bullet and let the miners run, I got back a message mega BTC with 24 hours, trouble is of course they provide the BTC address NOT YOU, which means of course THEY CONTROl the PRIVATE-KEY ( NOT your FUNDS ever )

Then I search fee's it say's payment 0.001 BTC everyday, and U use their  address its only 2% on exit, .. yep right, trouble is is now 24+ hours there is no exit, no place to get my BTC out of their control and into my control.

Now the payments are everyday at 5pm so it says, but then  it used to be every tuesday, I read the fees are 2% for mining rigs selling and min payment 0.001, now I read  that  the fee is 0.002 on the 0.001 withdrawl to your private address,

So in effect you must wait until you get $50 USD in BTC, and they nab $10 which is a 20% take, and of course as you all know the loose change is always kepts as most miners just quit, about the first few days of the games.

When you create an account on NICEHASH you don't pick your address, they give you their wallet address, but its not a REAL address as it will never contain real BTC, and of course you will never have the PRIV-KEY to control those  funds.

It's certain that buyers of NICEHASH is a scam, but sellers are seriously FUCKED. The software they provide for windows is no doubt a virus, and the all the linux SW they provide is 1% of GPU capability, as I tested all only  EWBF ( equihash ) provides real returns on the most popular coin.

IN summary NiceHash is a very bad fuck.

Well  prove me wrong folks, its really stupid as miners we all have the abiltiy to have our COIN sent to your private addresses daily, its quit apparent that NICEHASH is tied to paypal and coinbase, and its essentially just an IRS tax agent.

That's interesting, I just went online to order a few, and it was BY WIRE ONLY, no option for BTC, or LTC, funny, because last week I ordered a PWR-Supply, and it was BTC only, go figure,

It's QUITE obvious that BITMAIN smells blood in the water and now ITS US-DOLLAR only, and they don't want no more BTC.

Crazy just 27 hours ago, you couldn't get a D3, now you can buy all you want, if you have US DOLLARS.

Goes to show that CHINESE buyers were only paying in BTC, and BITMAIN got smart, see's the writing on the wall. Time to go all cash, and all gold.

p.s. I'm an asian buyer in asia.

I'm in ASIA, and my site where I got past the CATCHA, explicitly told me that orders in english to be shipped to ASIA were not being processed.

That was during the first ten minutes of start, exactly at 11:05, after 11:10, like everybody else I never got that far ever again, but during my first attempt, I got as far as choose your shipper, and the the site told me that NO ENGLISH orders could be sent to ASIA.

I thought this odd, as I have an outstanding account and have ordered before here in ASIA, its clear that that BATCH was 100% ran by ALIBABA, and that it was orchestrated by their RULES.

It appears that some kind of VOUCHER was required and you had to be a ALIBABA reseller to actually get your order  processed, and it had to be orginiated on the chinese language bitmain.com site.

Next time they promote this fraud sale on twitter.com/bitmaintech, I'm not even going to bother with the english, I'm going straight to the chinese portal, but note you have to first use the alibaba ( gl-goo ) link provided on twitter to get your order in the cart, then use the normal bitmain.com, and process the cart.

There is no conspiracy here, its a simple fact that this site bitcointalk.org is AMAZON, and that BITMAIN is OWNED by ALIBABA, that amazon/alibaba are working together to create an artificial 'shortage' of miners, so they can fleece the sheep.

I doubt that much, I was in ASIA during today sale, it started 11:05 BEIJING time and ended exactly 12:30, that's when all sales went "Out of Storage", on anything in your 'cart'.

To suggest you that you played for two hours, shows that you simply weren't even in the game, as the game started at 11:05, and ended promptly at 12:30.

The only people who were allowed to purchase was alibaba insiders on the  chinese website, my site explicitly told me to that orders in english were not being processed in ASIA.

Next time there is one of these sales, I'm just going to use the chinese version of bitmain.com for entry, and not even bother with the english portal.

It's DAMN CLEAR that folks running ALIBABA ( owners of BITMAIN ) have NO intention of selling mai-gwai ( white devils ) any boxes at wholesale prices.

Its far worse than that, if you bother to TRACEROUTE -A on bitcointalk.org, you see that its OWNED by AMAZON,

IF you bother to TRACEROUTE -A on passport.bitmain.com or shop.bitmain.com, you see its owned by alibaba,

Now funny two largest resellers of over priced faux feces OWN the soul of BTC online, go figure, this is mostly about making resellers of gold pans rich, and the miners poor.

ALL is 100% bullshit.

Well its a conflict of interest, as alibaba is a reseller, but they're the wolves who decide what sheep buy cheap and sell high. ( note I'm  a miner, an end user )

This is clearly a conflict of interest.

There is NO doubt in my mind that all incoming orders to alibaba that were not 'pre-covered' with an alibaba voucher were /dev/nulled to the old bit bucket in the sky, aka connection dropped for being an english order.

Now ALIBABA is the largest webstore on earth, given that they're handling all orders ( shop.bitmain.com ) and fullfillment/payment ( passport.bitmain.com ), I highly doubt that ALIBABA servers were INCAPABLE of handling a few thousand geeks trying to get new miners.

It's clear as shit here that this SALE was a fraud, my browser clearly said "We cannot deliver product to CHINA using english site", that was the first message I got when I got my cart through "2+2=?" at 10:05, I never got past that problem, as my order was to THAILAND. Clearly the alibaba site was setup to block and drop all 'english site' orders.

Next time I will order from the chinese version of bitmain.com and I will make sure to set myself up as an alibaba reseller in advance and get "VOUCHER" so my order can go through.

In the meantime  the question begs to be asked, "HOW LONG WILL PEOPLE PUT UP WITH THIS BLATANT DISCRIMINATION AND BULLSHIT?

the twitter.com/bitmaintech site is clearly an ALIBABA front, note that the link in todays 'sale' lead's directly to alibaba, but the funny thing is nobody, but alibaba resellers made an order go through,

very blatant for me in asia, next time I'm going to order on the chinese site, as it clearly told me that an english order in asia was verboten, so now I'm suspicious if that perhaps 'chinese' orders were going through.


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https://mobile.twitter.com/bitmaintech

Releasing new batches of Antminer D3 & L3+ tomorrow at 11AM (14 Sept,GMT+8) here (D3: [Suspicious link removed]/gGn5aD, L3+: [Suspicious link removed]/4ejRXC) pic.twitter.com/H3kJ4Mk9yR

note that hte [Suspicious link removed] faux sites went straight to alibab, who just happens to have ZERO interest in selling HW to the public at the wholesale price.

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shop.bitmain.com is ALIBABA

traceroute -A on shop.bitmain.com gives AS45102 - Alibaba (China) Technology Co., Ltd., China

So there you go folks, whenever you pay, or order on BITMAIN.COM, alibaba is taking care of that ORDER.

Now go figure why ALL english accounts and non-chinese accounts get sent to the /dev/null pool??

Of what interest does bitmain.com have other than off-loading hardware, in pre-payment, of course alibaba is a resale place and loves to make 500% ROI on a quick deal.

What's left for the minion? NADA

AS45102 - Alibaba (China) Technology Co., Ltd., China

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21  119.38.212.177 (119.38.212.177) [AS45102]  378.628 ms * *
22

traceroute -A shop.bitmain.com

BINGO, shop.bitmain.com is ALIBABA

traceroute -A on shop.bitmain.com gives AS45102 - Alibaba (China) Technology Co., Ltd., China

So there you go folks, whenever you pay, or order on BITMAIN.COM, alibaba is taking care of that ORDER.

Now go figure why ALL english accounts and non-chinese accounts get sent to the /dev/null pool??

Of what interest does bitmain.com have other than off-loading hardware, in pre-payment, of course alibaba is a resale place and loves to make 500% ROI on a quick deal.

What's left for the minion? NADA

AS45102 - Alibaba (China) Technology Co., Ltd., China

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21  119.38.212.177 (119.38.212.177) [AS45102]  378.628 ms * *
22

traceroute -A shop.bitmain.com

Note they twitter show today the faux gl link at the top of the sale, leads directly to this site, a alibaba site.

When you hear an orchestra, look for a conductor.

What would be the purpose of a fair allotment of this device? Especially given that the current actually makes money.

The staff of bitmain is hardly responsible for this fubar,

All through this journey ( I'm in asia, very close to Kunming, China ), bitmain.com worked just fine, its when THEY pass you off to passport.bitmain.com that things fail, so the question begs to be asked, who are these people?

IMHO this passport.bitmain.com is not part of the TECH company, IMHO most likely passport.bitmain.com is a JACK-MA company, and most likely they /dev/null any order that isn't in the alibaba/aliexpress queue

To suspect otherwise is crazy, people know they can resell this stuff 200% or more, its a no lose, thus there is no reason for a fair game, for bitmain.com, there only goal is to sell and/or pre-allocate and fund the next batch, why not they know the 1/2 life for this stuff is months, the S9 is already DOA, given that it will not ROI $10/day. It will not be long for D3, all bitmain.com can hope for is to keep playing the current game of getting paid in advance before demand goes to zero.

Also of course keeping this stuff in china is of everyone's interest, from a geo-political point of view.

Soon china, will have +90% of the entire crypto-coin holdings, not unlike having a majority of the worlds gold, this is all high low-level geopolitical stuff.