Well i am using bitcoin for a lot of purposes, first, i see it as an investment, i really like that idea.. I dont use bitcoins to buy stuff, pay memberships, anything else, i dont spend a penny in buying things.
But if i need money urgently, then i try to withdraw a little from my balance, but not much, i dont like spending my bitcoins because that would give me a big loss in a near future.

Hahahah its name is so crazy, i dont think that anyone is gonna put any cent in that ICO's, they are scammers for sure. Why they made that ICO instead of creating a serious ico? with a good name, real and comprensible whitepaper... nope, they made it just for fun, i guess.
There are a lot of scammy icos around the market, i it is too easy to create a new ico and that is why we see this type of useless coins everyday

It is difficult, yes, but it is possible to find out a coin that might skyrocket in a few days or maybe weeks.
I bought 3 ethereum when they were at $140 each one, i am still holding it, when it was at $400 a few days ago i was in profit for more than $600.
It is difficult to find a good gem in this cryptomarket, but i really have faith in Golem, Ark, and BAT, they will surelly go up in the upcoming weeks.

I really think that xrp is one of the most safest cryptocurrencies that are around the market right now, just because there are a lot of banks that are investing in it at the moment, they are paying too much attention to the technology of this coin.
It can be one of the most safest coins, yes, but it is not the most profitable at this moment. It has been at $0,15 - $0,20 in the last two months.. It touched $0,40 and then dropped to $0,20 again.
There are better options, but for long term i think it can be one of the best choices

Well doge was 25 satoshis when bitcoin touched $5000. I dont see it growing, it is one of the most weirds coins i have ever seen, the only thing that keeps this altcoin alive is the community that it has, everybody loves dogecoin because of its meme and that its one of the first coins that have ever existed.
but i think that it is dead, the price is not growing, it has always the same rate but the only thing that changes is the btc value of it.
It is so weird.

This is the same as those who bought at $200 when it was at that price. Probably they thought that nobody was gonna buy bitcoin if it reaches $5000.
Now everybody is crazy for buying a coin, or maybe less than a coin, but they want to buy bitcoin no matter what. So the volume in bitcoin is amazing, and there is more people buying everyday, so i think that people will buy bitcoin no matter how much is the price.

Yeah maybe you both are right, but this is not the beggining of bitcoin, well, it started to be exchanged in 2009, so more than 8 years have passed.
if you mean that it can rise much more, you are right, it can rise a lot, but it has to be hyped for it to be done.
regarding to op question, i think that at the moment this is a good opportunity to invest into bitcoin, we are recovering from the crash of last night. (from $4,9k to $4,1k) so if you wanna be in, try now.
 

I read the first paragraph and i stopped reading your thread. Seriously, are you under alcohol effects? or are you dr*nk?
Nobody knows who satoshi nakamoto is, the only thing we know is that he created its forum and that he is the founder of bitcoin and all the blockchain technology.
It would be amazing if we all know how Satoshi is, i would be glad to meet him or only see him on tv or any other site, also that would pump the price a lot.

Bitcoin is more "neutral" than PayPal.. but there is only one thing that i have to say about paypal.. is that bitcoin probably has more fees than pp right now.
Last week i sent a paypal payment of $5 and i only payed $0.40 of fees, and also i sent a payment of $7 worth of bitcoins and i had to pay $6 of fees.
so we now have even more fees than paypal.. but obviously it is more faster and better, i will choose bitcoin no matter what.

If you enter to any exchanger right now you will see that there are more sell orders than buys.
This is the main factor that makes bitcoin go down at the moment, also there is too much panic around because "everybody" says that we are in a bubble and that bitcoin was gonna crash before the five K, that is why most people are selling their coins.
but there is nothing new, just a little FUD, but all is fine right now.

Well, compared to the initial price at the beggining of this year we can say that it is not probably going to go more down than before.
But yes, just as you said, bitcoin markets are too volatile right now, one day they are up 10% and the next day all altcoins are in red.
But it will always depends on the news, the chineses markets, etc, everything affects the bitcoin price.

I dont think the price is gonna crash so much. Probably it will go down for at least $400 more. It is at $4600 right now, maybe it will hit $4200 each bitcoin but i dont think that is going to happen.
But going down to $2400 are you serious? that is more than 50% of actual value, not possible right now...
I think everybody has the opportunity to buy more bitcoins right now, or maybe altcoins that they are cheap too.

I think that actually we need both, but i like the way i handle bitcoins right now, they are easy to use and spend in wherever you want.
Or probably it would be better if some stores and "big brands" start accepting bitcoin as a payment way.. that would make bitcoin more popular and people will feel interested in buying btc and then spending and using it as a normal currency.
I think that is the best way, but i dont think that bitcoin is better than dollar or any other paper currency.

Yep! i am watching the charts right now waiting for it to touch the five K, i am laughing at those who said that bitcoin was gonna die on august 1.
It is amazing when you realize that bitcoin is gonna reach that amount, we are only one step before the 10k mark, this is incredible guys...
I think we are gonna get in there in a few hours.

Well it is full of ICOs right now and it is very difficult to trust in only one... But sure i will give a try and make a good research about that one, it looks promising and i really want to invest into an ico right now.
but why do you think this is a trustable ico? what are their features?
by the way, i also recommend investing in BitDice, i only invested $100 in their ico, lets see what happens with it, most people thinks that it will be a very good one.

I dont think that it will last forever, but it wont be replaced soon. I know that technologies are too advanced and probably all members of this forum wants paper money to be replaced, but the entire world doesnt want that.
I wouldnt like to only pay with bitcoins, i really like having the paper money, and bills are pretty, i like holding them.
So i dont think that will happen, and if it happen, i dont think that it would be bitcoin, since there is not even 0.02% of the population that uses bitcoin.

Yes, as some people said in this thread a few hours ago, no one can predict bitcoin price, that is impossible in this volatile market.
But it seems like we are gonna touch five thousand dollars tomorrow, i have faith in that, and i hope it is gonna be stable at that price, because it seems that there is gonna be a correction in there.
But i really thing that bitcoin is going well at the moment, the only issue are the high fees.

Bitcoin has always been up, but there are dumps too. When the segwit was first mentioned, the price went from $2800 to $2400, and a few days latter it dropped to $1750.
There are always corrections on the price, and there might be one when the price touches the five thousand, more investors needs a fairly price to invest.
So, take a look at the charts from December 2013 to now.

Yeah sure that if i had a children i would teach him about cryptocurrencies, not just only Bitcoin. This is probably be the future of money, i am sure of that, no matter how much years does it take..
But it is difficult to do that, you know that the society at the moment doesnt like people to invest, save money or something like that, the new generations are educated only to spend money, and that is how the system works.
So it is not easy, but it is worth if you teach your children about bitcoin because you are "teaching" him how to take care of Money, not only bitcoin.

Wow that is nice to hear that, and i am really amazed about your strategy and for sure that you have a good technical analysis.
I do it to, but i dont use to trade btc/usd because that is risky for me, and i dont like to be too much worry about that, i prefer only trading btc/alts and i think that is more safe than doing that, and betting for bearish, i would die if i do that...