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641  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: October 23, 2023, 09:20:07 PM
Galatasaray really seem to be in big trouble against Bayern Munich.  Undecided   If Icardi doesn't have an injection I don't also think that he would be able to enter the game even from the substitutes. I wonder who Galatasaray would prefer in his position if they can't start with Icardi.

Maybe Bakambu would be an alternative. He played for around 10 minutes against Besiktas but I still don't think he is ready for the starting eleven much. Because he hasn't been playing regularly for a long time.

I think the best options for this game are Bayern Munich win @1.43 and over 2.5 goals @1.40.
Galatasaray won't be a push over for Bayern Munich, Bayern has shown weakness this season and Galatasaray hasn't been in bad form also with the duo of icardi and Wilfred Zaha they have been able to always get goals and j believe they would give Bayern Munich a run for their money tomorrow and for sure this game would end both team score

I support your opinion fully. I understand why some would think that Galatasaray is unable to hold a candle to Bayern Munich, but playing against Galatasaray is really no fun for any team and the game against Manchester United was like a wake up call. Maybe this game against United is what can Bayern Munich help to prepare to not run into the same problems that Manchester United had. But still you can only prepare for so many things and then it comes down to passion and conation. That's where I think the Turkish team may have an advantage over Bayern. They want these points against Bayern so much that they will play as if this game was the final of the Champions League already while Bayern has a comfortable six points.

If they can draw with them, I think Galatsaray have a good chance of getting out of the group, sending Manchester United to the europa league. MU are the worst in the group so far, let's see how they play against Copenhagen, if they draw or lose, they might not even make it out of the group
642  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: October 23, 2023, 09:16:28 PM

It is clear that having such a father will be easier for him to move up the career ladder, but only up to a certain point, forever he will not be able to promote him, especially if he does not realise himself as a footballer, so you can end up without starting a career

The question whether the son wants to be a football doesn't really arise I think. Not that he would be forced to by his father, but from what I can see and what Ronaldo talks about him, It is quite obvious that his plan is to pursue a career as a professional football. It also makes sense, doesn't it? If your whole life is about football due to the career of your father and you are also talented and deep in love with football, it is almost inevitable that you give it a try and see how far you can get. But it is true that having a father like Ronaldo is not enough to become and also remain a professional footballer for a long time. I assume he would probably want to be a striker as well and then it's quite simple to see whether he stands the test or not. He either scores a lot of goals or he doesn't.

It's worth mentioning that Ronaldo also said that his son has poor discipline, that it could prevent him from becoming a professional footballer. Maybe it's just because he's still a kid and then as he gets older he'll take it more seriously, so it's too early to tell if he'll have a career or not

Well at this point, I think everyone knows that Cristiano Junior is going to be a footballer. Just like his father. There is no doubt about that at this point. Cristiano Ronaldo also make sure that he (Cristiano Junior) does not put anything in his body that is not good. Like Coca-Cola, Pepsi, etc. It looks like he is trying to make his son as disciplined as him. And I have seen some clips where he is running through the defense of the opponent. So I also believe he is going to be a striker. But at the same time I believe this kid is going to be under pressure because after all he is the kid of a player who is the best in the world. So the expectation is going to be a lot.

Regards

Duke

That's true too, I think it's just a transitional age. The main thing is that he should not be blamed his whole career for being the son of a great player, it can mentally break him at a certain point and even stop his development. Really I'm afraid that such reproaches probably won't be avoided
643  Local / Трейдеры / Re: Последний вагон на север on: October 23, 2023, 08:52:57 PM
Ну почему же, скопом все заявки одобрить - это было бы как раз логичным решением. Иначе для чего вообще тянут? Одобрили бы одну. Потом вторую. Ну или отклонили.

Ну можно одобрить топов, а заявки от среднего уровня компаний рассматривать и в случае чего отклонять. Чуть больше часа суд приказал SEC пересмотреть заявку Grayscale, тоже хорошая новость под рост, но почему именно они, а не BlackRock? Кстати вот тоже интересная новость по BlackRock
644  Local / Трейдеры / Re: Последний вагон на север on: October 23, 2023, 04:33:27 PM
Да здравствует бычка, прощаемся с медвежкой! Grin Как бы хамаха не угадал в этот раз, а то индикатор сломается Cheesy В целом из 5ти минут видоса 2 это реклама фьючей, в остальном про ситуацию в мире и про диверы на графиках, ну короче немного про техническую часть..

645  Local / Альтернативные криптовалюты / Re: Aptos (APT) убийца соланы on: October 22, 2023, 08:10:04 PM
Врядли aptos убьет солану, технологический аптос не чем не отличается, хайп вокруг аптоса прошла, думаю на новом цикле, роллапы будут в тренде.

Про роллапы скорее даже факт, это проявляется уже сейчас. Хайп первых уровней был всю прошлую бычку, тренды меняются как ни крути, аптос все равно является довольно спекулятивной монетой и запампить ее на быче не составит труда, лететь будет все без разбору, что-то больше, что-то меньше. Вспомните как аптос до 20 летал, думаю у него запал еще не пропал
646  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: October 22, 2023, 07:58:05 PM
If villa will keep this tempo till the second half and i think that chance to win for vilal is very big against westham. this game is very attractive to watch caused by westham is now trying to equalizing the score against villa.
Losing 1 goal in the first half is a bad result from westham.
West Ham can still win the game, they have players that are as good as the players in Aston Villa. Pacqueta is to blame for the goal because he switched off and allowed Douglas luiz the chance to score. One goal down is not so difficult to recover from, if they work hard to make sure that Ollie Watkins does not score his own goal because he is enjoying his best form.

If Aston Villa keep up the tempo, they will win against West Ham.

Did they even have a chance? Judging by the statistics, they were losing in a blowout, so the result is quite obvious, and at the end it was as if they didn't want to play at all and let the situation take its course, as a result of which they conceded two more goals. Aston Vila are one of the few teams who still haven't lost a game, surprisingly they are not that bad this season
647  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: October 22, 2023, 07:52:47 PM
It doesn't only depend on himself. It is quite a difference whether your father is Ronaldo or some unknown guy from a place nobody knows. Unknown players have to prove a lot more and they have to prove that they carry that superstar gene in their body. But for Cristiano Jr. this isn't part of the vetting process. Teams that would be on interest to Cristiano Jr. would always give him a chance for a season because I think there isn't too much to doubt that he has talent. Whether it is good enough to have a professional career remains to be seen, but a club would be stupid to not give him a try if they are able to do so. It doesn't cost them anything and if it happens to be the case that Jr. is similarly talented, it could be the scouting jackpot for them.

It is clear that having such a father will be easier for him to move up the career ladder, but only up to a certain point, forever he will not be able to promote him, especially if he does not realise himself as a footballer, so you can end up without starting a career

The question whether the son wants to be a football doesn't really arise I think. Not that he would be forced to by his father, but from what I can see and what Ronaldo talks about him, It is quite obvious that his plan is to pursue a career as a professional football. It also makes sense, doesn't it? If your whole life is about football due to the career of your father and you are also talented and deep in love with football, it is almost inevitable that you give it a try and see how far you can get. But it is true that having a father like Ronaldo is not enough to become and also remain a professional footballer for a long time. I assume he would probably want to be a striker as well and then it's quite simple to see whether he stands the test or not. He either scores a lot of goals or he doesn't.

It's worth mentioning that Ronaldo also said that his son has poor discipline, that it could prevent him from becoming a professional footballer. Maybe it's just because he's still a kid and then as he gets older he'll take it more seriously, so it's too early to tell if he'll have a career or not
648  Local / Трейдеры / Re: CommEX – новая криптовалютная биржа on: October 22, 2023, 07:42:11 PM
Там для новых пользователей акцию запустили, если кто решился на регу, хоть и вижу что тут мало, но лучше уж с 10% скидкой на торговую комсу чем без нее. Только ради этого и запостил. Но не призываю настоятельно регаться прям, решение принимаете вы сами  Smiley

Хех, смотрю админ русскоязычного чата решил протестировать аффилейтку)
ага, что-то вроде того)

Чуть ли не каждый день пушат какими-то новостями, с сегодняшнего дня уже ваучером машут на 10 USDT для фьючерсов. Не соврали на последней АМА что будут выкатывать много всяких акций, но это логично, надо же заманить пользователей к себе. Думаю активно продолжат этим заниматься, но откровенно говоря по так себе эти акции.

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  По 31 октября, все пользователи, которые совершат сделку более чем на 10 USDT на спотовом рынке CommEX или более чем на 500 USDT на фьючерсном рынке CommEX
   или Simple Futures markets в течение периода действия акции, поровну разделят призовой фонд в размере 40 000 USDT.

Доступное количество ваучеров вчера разобрали достаточно быстро и акция закончилась, что показывает что это все-таки кому-то интересно, ну или просто много любителей халявки. Сразу после этого сообщили что акции продолжаться и надо следить за анонсами.

Вдруг кому надо их ссылка на приложуху на Андроид: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cloud.commex

Последнее обновление было вчера. Скачиваний 5 тыс.+  Пока совсем слабенько, где те сотни тысяч пользователей из России, видимо не захотели туда залазить все-таки Tongue



Очевидно, что у сотни тысяч пользователей помимо банана были еще и другие хорошие биржи, перекочуют туда. Тем более пока что тех, кто на бинансе все еще сидит не трогают, только предлагают добровольно перейти. Интересно когда уже будут принудительно перекрывать доступ к бинансу и перенаправлять на CommEx...
649  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: October 21, 2023, 08:59:29 PM
Benzama scored one of his usual goals with a header. He scored his goal in the 22nd minute, it was clear from the previous events that he would score this goal. Then, Al Taawoun scored from a corner kick and the same header, and the goals were scored one after the other. There were many more goals that Karim Benzama could have scored, but he could not score the other goal.

Clearly, a bad result for both teams on the way to the championship is not a score that will please anyone. I guess it was a strange match as Karim Benzama played for both teams today, I don't understand Cheesy

This Karim Benzema we see in the Saudi League is not like the Benzama in Real Madrid and he is not even near to it. Benzama is getting old and he can't have good performance anymore. otherwise, a player like Benzema is a team like Al Ittihad to win the Saudi League title while there is currently a six-point gap between them and first place of the league.

There has been a decline in Benzema's performances as he gets older, but despite his decline, it's not significant in the sense that his performance is still within standard limits and he still deserves to be in the main squad.
We also can't always expect him to perform well forever, because ups and downs in performance are a certainty in football. Especially when age eats into his performance from time to time, he also has more injuries now, although the injury is relatively mild but it is still a bad sign for him.

It would be strange if he didn't deserve a place in the main squad. In his team, he is a serious striker who is unlikely to be on the bench for long. Moreover, he is not paid huge money to rest on the substitutes' bench. For his age, he is performing excellently and his numbers are very slowly declining
650  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: October 21, 2023, 08:49:54 PM
I think it's obvious to everyone that this league would not be the best place for his son to start a real professional career. Moreover Ronaldo himself has repeatedly said that he is not happy with his son's attitude to sport etc, because he can't keep discipline, so who knows what will come out of him in football. In fact, you can count on your fingers the number of footballers who have continued the work of his father with the same success and Ronaldo Jr. will be very difficult to reach the same heights

It may not the best league for some to start a real professional career like the one Ronaldo probably aspires for his kid. But nevertheless, he’s got to start someplace. And a starting point could quickly be forgotten if the talent and skills for the sport is there.

Besides, I think it wouldn’t be too difficult to get his kid a spot in any club he wants as the kid actually has got some talent in the sport. I guess only time would tell if he has the spunk he father had and still do throughout his football career.

It's more about academies, because he's still small, but when it comes to a professional career, it will depend on Ronaldo Jr. whether any team wants to sign him or not. It's too early to say, but in reality there are really few kids who have been as successful as their fathers, and it will be unrealistic for him to outdo his father, that's a fact

It doesn't only depend on himself. It is quite a difference whether your father is Ronaldo or some unknown guy from a place nobody knows. Unknown players have to prove a lot more and they have to prove that they carry that superstar gene in their body. But for Cristiano Jr. this isn't part of the vetting process. Teams that would be on interest to Cristiano Jr. would always give him a chance for a season because I think there isn't too much to doubt that he has talent. Whether it is good enough to have a professional career remains to be seen, but a club would be stupid to not give him a try if they are able to do so. It doesn't cost them anything and if it happens to be the case that Jr. is similarly talented, it could be the scouting jackpot for them.

It is clear that having such a father will be easier for him to move up the career ladder, but only up to a certain point, forever he will not be able to promote him, especially if he does not realise himself as a footballer, so you can end up without starting a career
651  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: October 21, 2023, 08:17:51 PM
Arsenal look much better than Chelsea in all aspects. Hope for Chelsea is justified only by the fact that it is once a strong team, which is about to interrupt a series of their terrible performances and everything will start again, they will start winning and everything will be fine, but I think this is far from true, so I think it is not worth to put high hopes on Chelsea
After seeing Chelsea's good performance in their last 3 matches,  it becomes difficult for me to take sides in this game, Though I'm a full supporter of Chelsea, I doubt that Chelsea will win their game against Arsenal. To me, it is not enough reason to bank on Chelsea based on their previous three straight victories after seeing how they have been struggling since the beginning of this season. But I wouldn't be surprised if Chelsea defeated Arsenal.

the best I can do is a draw. I think that Chelsea have not recovered and three wins so far do not mean anything, especially they were matches against average teams, and they now have a match against Arsenal, who have not lost a single match yet this season

Chelsea still made some effort to win those matches and looks like a good run for them but a real test is about to happen. If they dont lose this match it is still a positive result but i think the match will end up in a draw. If Chelsea somehow wins the match i think they will turn this season around for sure.

Yes, they drew, you were right. But it's more of a missed opportunity, because they led almost all the time, even Mudryk scored, I'm surprised. Statistically they are even slightly superior to Arsenal. What is surprising is that Manchester City are back in first place, although Tottenham haven't played yet
652  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: October 20, 2023, 09:45:55 PM
I think it's obvious to everyone that this league would not be the best place for his son to start a real professional career. Moreover Ronaldo himself has repeatedly said that he is not happy with his son's attitude to sport etc, because he can't keep discipline, so who knows what will come out of him in football. In fact, you can count on your fingers the number of footballers who have continued the work of his father with the same success and Ronaldo Jr. will be very difficult to reach the same heights

It may not the best league for some to start a real professional career like the one Ronaldo probably aspires for his kid. But nevertheless, he’s got to start someplace. And a starting point could quickly be forgotten if the talent and skills for the sport is there.

Besides, I think it wouldn’t be too difficult to get his kid a spot in any club he wants as the kid actually has got some talent in the sport. I guess only time would tell if he has the spunk he father had and still do throughout his football career.

It's more about academies, because he's still small, but when it comes to a professional career, it will depend on Ronaldo Jr. whether any team wants to sign him or not. It's too early to say, but in reality there are really few kids who have been as successful as their fathers, and it will be unrealistic for him to outdo his father, that's a fact
653  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: October 20, 2023, 09:42:52 PM
Arsenal look much better than Chelsea in all aspects. Hope for Chelsea is justified only by the fact that it is once a strong team, which is about to interrupt a series of their terrible performances and everything will start again, they will start winning and everything will be fine, but I think this is far from true, so I think it is not worth to put high hopes on Chelsea
After seeing Chelsea's good performance in their last 3 matches,  it becomes difficult for me to take sides in this game, Though I'm a full supporter of Chelsea, I doubt that Chelsea will win their game against Arsenal. To me, it is not enough reason to bank on Chelsea based on their previous three straight victories after seeing how they have been struggling since the beginning of this season. But I wouldn't be surprised if Chelsea defeated Arsenal.

the best I can do is a draw. I think that Chelsea have not recovered and three wins so far do not mean anything, especially they were matches against average teams, and they now have a match against Arsenal, who have not lost a single match yet this season
654  Local / Трейдеры / Re: Биржа FTX on: October 20, 2023, 09:40:23 PM
Потому что на себе любимом экономить нельзя Grin Прикол в том, что суд уже идет больше 2 недель а результата все равно не будет - никто не может понять где бабки. Вот тупо растворились и всё. Еще вот такой моментик - такая крупная организация, такие большие бабки воротила, а разве не должен был в какой-то момент в работу включиться какой-нибуь аудитор? Миллионы и миллиарды туда-сюда летают, а никто ничего не знает, не видел и не в курсе.

Так все просто. Деньги потрачены на себя, а остальная сумма проиграна на шортах и лонгах, одуванчик ведь тот еще трейдер, любит это дело, даже после того, как фтх уже был практически мертв появлялись сообщения о том, что он начал шортить юсдт, что бы его депегнуть. Я точно не помню как все это было, но тем не менее искать деньги нет смысла, их ведь уже давно нет, только недвижка.

По поводу аудитора - он мог спокойно обходить это дело как сизый, говорить, что все нормально, делать фейк аудит и дальше радоваться жизни..
655  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: October 19, 2023, 08:00:19 PM
Going by statistics and H2H it's more likely for Arsenal to win as they have  a better record when compared to that of Chelsea most recently, Arsenal has really been brilliant this season and with wonderful results they have made good records as compared to that off Chelsea from the beginning of the season, so far Arsenal has done better.

Chelsea recently have recorded two wins just before the international break so it can be said they have their morale boosted currently and the can be ready to give a trial at Arsenal to test how well they have improved their ability to perform better as compared to how they started at the beginning of the season. But then Arsenal is at the peak of their confidence as they have won one of their biggest challenge in the EPL recently, they will most likely be very confident over Chelsea knowing the recent status of Chelsea, they would only have some strong resistance From Chelsea but then they are sure to get a win or draw but never a loss.
It is true and cannot be denied that Arsenal are better in all aspects this season than Chelsea, and the Gunners have greater ambition and opportunity to extend their unbeaten record when they visit Stamford Bridge. But of course this is not an easy job for Arteta squad because no matter how bad their opponents are this time, Chelsea status as a big team in the EPL that is difficult to beat cannot be underestimated. On the other hand, Pochettino squad will carry the ambition to improve their performance and try to hold back Arsenal progress. If they cannot beat them, then the most realistic target is to hold a draw if they feel that is enough. Because losing at home is very embarrassing and will put Pochettino and his players under pressure again.

Regarding the strategy of the two teams, I think Chelsea and Arsenal have prepared it well, especially since the two coaches have quite a long time due to the international break. An interesting match to determine the extent of Arsenal strength after beating Man City in the previous match, waiting for Arsenal ability to do it again against Chelsea.

Arsenal look much better than Chelsea in all aspects. Hope for Chelsea is justified only by the fact that it is once a strong team, which is about to interrupt a series of their terrible performances and everything will start again, they will start winning and everything will be fine, but I think this is far from true, so I think it is not worth to put high hopes on Chelsea
656  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: October 19, 2023, 07:55:00 PM
That's interesting! I don't think it's likely that CR7 Jr will play with his father as he's now 38 and his son is 13 - maybe by the time his son is 18 his father will have retired.
Many players make their debut  before 18, some as early as 16 or 15. If he impresses and shows promising talent, he can start playing professional football in the next 2-3 years for a decent team.

Can his father play for 2-3 more years? He is in great shape and is still playing at a high level. He possibly can play for the next couple of years at a less demanding league (like the one he is playing at).

But even if they both are still playing football at the same time, facing each other or playing for the same team is not assured.

- Jay -
But it's very rare for a 16-year-old to make the professional squad, I'm not sure Ronaldo's son will make it that quickly.
He needs to be able to adapt for a longer period of time and the appropriate age might be 20 with a good build.

All I know is that Ronaldo's dream of playing until the 2026 World Cup means that by then Ronaldo will be 41 years old, already quite old although still excellent at the top level it seems that his career will end soon and playing with his son is still very small to happen.

At least now Ronaldo can still keep an eye on his son in the same team, with direct monitoring.

I think it's obvious to everyone that this league would not be the best place for his son to start a real professional career. Moreover Ronaldo himself has repeatedly said that he is not happy with his son's attitude to sport etc, because he can't keep discipline, so who knows what will come out of him in football. In fact, you can count on your fingers the number of footballers who have continued the work of his father with the same success and Ronaldo Jr. will be very difficult to reach the same heights
657  Local / Трейдеры / Re: Биржа FTX on: October 19, 2023, 07:41:52 PM
Адвокат Сэма назвал его инвестиции ни разу не без башенными и что они не повлияли на крах FTX. На минуточку человек потратил более 150млн на недвижимость для себя и родителей, раздавал взятки политикам на десятки миллионов долларов и инвестировал сотни миллионов в фонды, где сидят его друзья. Ну да, конечно эти инвестиции не бессмысленны, это ведь инвестиции в себя Grin
658  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: October 18, 2023, 07:51:56 PM
Onana is having hard time at United but that doesn't make him a bad goalkeeper, plus after having a few bad games, players tend to get worse because of lack of morale and he may have lost his focus. When you try to go "this game I am going to be better and not screw up" the chances of you screwing up increases, because you are too focused on not making a mistake and that makes you make a mistake even more.

The new goalkeeper signed for the purpose as David de Gea replacement is having struggles to fit into his new team's system. It's usually normal for every goalkeeper in their first season but André Onana own seems to be worst because he's not showing or making any important improvement. Erik Ten Hag still believes in him to do a better job. André Onana is already screwing things up in his first season at Old Trafford. It's very important he bounced back to actions because he can't continue making significant blunders on the pitch which often leads to his team conceding irrelevant goals.

They caused great damage to Manchester United, especially in the Galatasaray match they lost at Old Trafford in the UCL. Because of the incorrect pass he made, the team was left incomplete and a penalty was awarded. They were lucky that Icardi missed the penalty, but they still lost the match. It was a season that started like a nightmare for Onana.

Nevertheless, I think many people understand that he works at his best and the blame should not be on him, but at least on the defence, which makes mistakes, sometimes critical, which the goalkeeper cannot cope with. You can see that Onana is not to blame for the defeats, he plays his position 100%.
659  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: October 18, 2023, 07:47:13 PM
In fact, Manchester City is still performing well in the Champions League at the moment even without Kevin de Bruyne and managed to win the match against Leipzig, who are the strongest rivals in Group G, even though they have experienced 2 defeats in the Premier League this is really a shame, but I am sure Pep Guardiola wont only relying on Kevin de Bruyne, he still has several other key players, but we also don't know to what extent Manchester City will be able to survive without Kevin de Bruyne, but what is clear at the moment is that even though Manchester City has not appeared completely consistent, what is clear is that Pep Guardiola will soon fix things midfield at the club to be able to improve Manchester City current performance.
Pep Guardiola definitely has a backup strategy in carrying out this season in the Champions League and Premier League so that Manchester City can continue to appear strong in all competitions even though key players like Kevin de Bruyne cannot play as hard as they are currently. I am quite sure that Manchester City will not be weak enough this season because Pep Guardiola has a way of placing substitutes in midfield in order to continue to have a better defense and attack line.

Just losing some a few points in the Premier League is not a reason for us to say Manchester City is not performing well anymore in this season.
Manchester City has a coach like Guardiola and he definitely has a good plan for an important tournament like the Champions League in which they want to win the title in this season.  

I don't understand people who after two defeats in a row start thinking that they won't win the season anymore, that they are deflated etc, lol. It's only been a couple of rounds, MC's defeats were not so random, rather they lacked a bit of luck. Especially in the Champions League, where they are top of the table and will definitely get out of the group
660  Local / Трейдеры / Re: Последний вагон на север on: October 18, 2023, 07:41:41 PM
Только недавно была фейк новость о ETF, на которой неплохо так прокатили шортистов, так Генслер заявил, что SEC все еще рассматривает заявки на спотовые ETF по битку, более того они общаются с теми, кто подал эти заявки. Уже и до общения дошли, чуется мне, что в следующем году они первым делом начнут одобрять эти заявки, учитывая множество факторов Wink
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