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641  Economy / Speculation / Re: Buy the DIP, and HODL! on: October 19, 2023, 04:24:18 PM
Sure it is better to get to fuck you status in your 20s, 30s or 40s, than to get there in your 50s or 60s, yet at the same time, you cannot try to act like you know what is going to happen, so the best that you can do is to try to make all of the better of decisions, and don't end up fuckning up by trying to rush matters.  There rare a lot of folks who never get to fuck you status, ever, so the mere fact of getting there late should not be a problem.

Also, if you only make it 1/4 or 1/2 to fuck you status, you swtill likely will be better off by doing the best that you can and making progress in that direction rather than considering yourself as a failure becuase you did not quite make it to fuck you status.

There are a lot of people in the world (even in affluent countries) who have very little to no savings/investments, and even the amounts of their investments and/or savings might not even amount to 1 or 2 years of their annual salary/cost of living... so fuck you status is usually in the 20x to 30x range of annual income/expenses and so people who reach such status are more likely exceptions rather than the rule.

Entry level fuck you status is just being able to quit your job and to be able to live off of your investments (and/or if you end up being able to receive benefits and/or pension payments), so frequently, if anyone plans to pull such lever at a lower age, even in their 40s, they have to keep in mind that they may well have to support themselves from their investments for quite a long time, so frequently, there are benefits to making sure that the calculations (and valuations) of the assets are based on sound assessments rather than just going based on the spot price of a volatile and fluctuating asset, and bitcoin fits into that highly volatile category.

Small changes in practices might have big rippling affects 10, 20 or 30 years down the road, and we might not even know the extent to which we made good decisions/choices or bad ones until our investment plays out for many years and/or when we either get close to fuck you status or we get into fuck you status (hopefully based on sufficiently accurate calculations).

If you can save money and invest in some reliable sector (which you can handle yourself) then there are bright chances that you will get success over a period of time.
I know a person story who has just a small job in Bank and he is accumulating cement shares for last 20 years for 10% of his monthly savings. His net worth of cement shares is now quite high and he has now achieved his Fuck You status.
With time we learn new things and that gives us idea whether we are moving in right directions or not that's the main reason why people who invest for long term are more likely to achieve there fuck you status.

Fuck crypto and fuck trading... especially talking about those ideas in this thread.

Let's talk about bitcoin and various methods to accumulate it without necessarily resorting to selling, and if you believe that you need to sell in order to acquire more bitcoin, then you probably need to go talk about those kinds of nonsense (gambling) ideas in some other thread.

For accumulating Bitcoin, the best way is to do it in DCA manner or investing small amount as and when available. You were talking about 200$ per week, this is quite a money for many people like me. Whatever one can invest easily and for long term is best way to accumulate Bitcoin. The reward is high on high amount but for that don't push yourself to things like taking loans for investment. Just be consistent in buying and don't forget to cash out some portion when you are getting some good profit.    
642  Economy / Speculation / Re: Buy the DIP, and HODL! on: October 17, 2023, 06:12:03 PM
If someone is investing 200$ per week then it will also be a good idea to reduce the money when price goes up and increase the investment funds when one think price is high. This is something one has to work around himself there is no standard guideline for that.

Just because you do that, it is not necessarily going to bring better results to be making those kind of adjustments to how much someone is buying.. but surely the longer that they buy bitcoin, the more that the are likely going to have more options because their bitcoin stash has gotten BIGGER, and they can be better informed and decide what they would like to do based on having more information, but even if their BTC stash is getting bigger and the BTC price is going up, it still might not necessarily be a good idea to reduce the amount invested into BTC.  Let's say that a person is new to bitcoin, and they are trying to get to fuck you status in 10-20 years, and the sooner they get there the better, but they ONLY have around $200 per week that they can use to buy BTC.  They might want to spend most of that with just regular buys, adn sure, if they want to save $50 on the side for buying on dips, then that might be o..k... but it may or may not end up working out as well as just using the whole $200 to buy bitcoin every week, and so after 1 year, they would have invested $10,400 into bitcoin, and so after 10 years they would have invested $100,400 into BTC.

My fuck you status chart shows that such person might need to have around 4 BTC by the end of 2033 in order to reach entry level fuck you status

So maybe if such hypothetical person had gotten up to 4 BTC, then they would be getting close to fuck you status in 10 years.. but we cannot be sure how many bitcoin they would have been able to get if their purchases of $200 per week were to be spread over 10 years...maybe they were ONLY able to accumulate 1-2 BTC with that kind of an investment approach.. which still might be o.k. to have 2 BTC by 2038, as shown in my chart.

If you check bitcoin DCA calculator then we can clearly see that it works best if accumulation period is set for 4 years or more. Its for past history of bitcoin but it gives us an idea about how DCA accumulation works over a period of time.
Good luck to you and to all to reach to there FU Status. We must keep the time period to reach FU Status within our prime age. Its better to have money while we are in our 30s or 40s so we can enjoy the return. Once we are in our 60s, we don't have much energy left to take advantage of that profit. Plan it in a way that we get to our destination or as close to it before we get too old.

Those who are new to Bitcoin have to spend some time initially to understand what it is and how it works. Those who spend some time early in there journey wont find it hard for the future. You might be an expert Bitcoiner now but initially you also have spend time in knowing this system. Even one need time to understand how DCA works in case of Bitcoin although there is lot of literature available that can tell how effective DCA is.
There is no shortcut to success, one has to put his time and effort to get success. You cant get success in crypto or other trading market only by listening to podcast or by reading tutorials. To get success one has to think from his own mind that what works best for him.  
The more you sweat, the more you shine

I agree with most of what you are saying here, and surely there is value to interactive kinds of learning that involve ongoing actions rather than just reading about the theory and not doing anything... so year, there may be some needs to put some plans into action, whether that is $10 per week or some higher amount that might depend on personal circumstances, and maybe even a smaller amount in the beginning while learning and gaining confidence.

It's best thing that if you are new to crypto trading market then you start with small amount rather putting all you have. There are practising stuff like paper trading that let's you do trading without investing any money. They are good for anyone new to trading but they can't give you actual essence of real trading. Just like you learn swimming when you actually jump in water likewise you get real trading experience when you start trading with your money. So there are many things one has to keep in mind while he start his crypto trading journey.
643  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod] on: October 16, 2023, 12:30:54 PM
Sri Lanka started well today but later on they could not hold on to wickets. Their partnership was good when they scored 116 runs in 21 overs but could not score more runs in the match due to the fall of wickets later on. Since the dismissal of Pathum Nissanka, no batsman has been able to pair the game well and since then the wickets have fallen the most and the run rate has slowed down. At the moment Sri Lanka have lost 8 wickets, but their runs have not increased much. 8 for 199 Sri Lanka are under enough pressure at the moment and I think they will lose all their wickets very soon. They could have scored 300 runs if they could have played the game today but from this score they failed and it is not possible to increase their runs. But Australia is bowling very well especially Adam Zampa bowled brilliantly and he took 4 wickets, his bowling performance put Srilanka under so much pressure today.

Sri Lanka really now down and out, they have lost 9 wickets for just 206 runs. It wont be easy to defend such a small target against Aussies. Apart from openers only Charith Asalanka was able to score 23 runs rest all batters couldn't make it to double figure. This collapse is very similar to what happens with Pakistan in there last game against India. For me the game is very much in Australia favor.
644  Economy / Speculation / Re: Buy the DIP, and HODL! on: October 16, 2023, 12:18:55 PM
I do agree that DCA is the best way to gather Bitcoin. There is no doubt that its adopted by many people for accumulating Bitcoin over a period of time. Gathering Bitcoin at one price is not the best way to accumulate Bitcoin.
I will go back and see my mistake in inferring DCA. Thanks for correcting me.

It seems to me that DCA is the best in terms of practicality - especially since a considerably large number of folks (perhaps even an overwhelming majority) don't even have any kind of lump sum investment funds available to them to even have that option, and even if they did, they might be better off to figure out some kind of strategy to spread out their investment rather than putting it in all at once.

Investment is an ongoing process specially for people who have monthly income. They buy shares from stock market from time to time and in case of Bitcoin they investment on weekly, monthly basis. Also since we dont have idea that Bitcoin will go up or down from current price its best to buy in chuncks rather investing all your money at one price. 


Its not necessary that at the time you stop accumulating in DCA manner you are getting good profit on your total investment. In that case one may stop further accumulation and wait for price to go up. There is no way we can guarantee that what Bitcoin price will be about 6 months after. So we must keep all options open if you are investing in Bitcoin. 

I frequently tell people that it would be good to think of their BTC investment in terms of 4-10 years or longer, so in that regard, if someone starts a DCA strategy that s/he is intending to invest $100 per week (which would be $5,200 per year) for the next 4-10 years, then they are still building their investment with each time that they buy some more BTC... so there might be some point in which they either say that they invested enough or that they might start to think that the could increase their investment to $200 per week or reduce it to $50 per week.

And if they get a bonus payment from their work of another $5k, they might consider whether and how they are going to invest that into BTC, and their decision might well depend upon where they are at in their BTC accumulation journey.

If someone is investing 200$ per week then it will also be a good idea to reduce the money when price goes up and increase the investment funds when one think price is high. This is something one has to work around himself there is no standard guideline for that. And yes DCA works best when you plan to invest for 4 to 5 years. If there is bull run (like the last one of 67k$) then one can get good profit and to me its better to cash out when you are getting adequate profit.

So its better to go for DCA since its reliable or less risky compared to other available strategies. You are right that it will take considerable time to read charts or follow other things. Time is most precious thing and we must spend it in most enjoyable way.
Spend time on things that give you good return. Its useless to run after things that take too much of our time.

Hopefully, it is ultimately a balance, and some people really enjoy certain kinds of activities, even nerdy ones, so it is not like it would necessarily be an all or nothing approach, yet at the same time, when someone is brand new to bitcoin, it may well be a lot better for them to attempt to employ a system that does not take up a lot of time.. because they likely would have already spent  some time just figuring out their bitcoin sourcing... maybe setting up accounts to buy bitcoin... and maybe they have one or two jobs that take a lot of their time and a family and maybe some other stuff that they either like or feel obligated to do... so then at some point they might be weighing how much time they are able to spend to study certain aspects or to try to determine if the BTC price is dipping, why it is dipping and if it is going to continue to dip.. which after they do the whole assessment, then they might still end up being wrong. .so then there could be some value to just being a lot more modest in their approach and so then something like DCA could end up building up a decent amount of BTC over 4-10 years without even giving too much thought to it.. and maybe just reading about some BIGGER areas, or listening to podcasts, but not really getting into particulars of trying to predict if the BTC price is going up or down in the short-term.. which surely can be time consuming and even adding some unnecessary stresses.

Those who are new to Bitcoin have to spend some time initially to understand what it is and how it works. Those who spend some time early in there journey wont find it hard for the future. You might be an expert Bitcoiner now but initially you also have spend time in knowing this system. Even one need time to understand how DCA works in case of Bitcoin although there is lot of literature available that can tell how effective DCA is.
There is no shortcut to success, one has to put his time and effort to get success. You cant get success in crypto or other trading market only by listening to podcast or by reading tutorials. To get success one has to think from his own mind that what works best for him. 
The more you sweat, the more you shine

645  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ICC WORLD CUP 2023 ACTUAL DISCUSSION THREAD! on: October 16, 2023, 11:55:16 AM
Don't jump into conclusions too quickly because that is the mistake I did yesterday, but in the end it was a complete shocker. I still believe 260+ can be a challenging total at this kind of pitches, especially with quality spin attack like Sri Lanka.

Another surprising twist, there is some drizzle and play has been stopped now for a while, hopefully it won't alter the dimensions of the ongoing game.

Sri Lanka derailed after losing there openers. No one after the openers is able to make it to double figures. 6 wickets have gone down and 15 more overs to be bowled. Now it looks like Sri Lanka will only be able to make it to 250 and that won't be enough to defend against Aussies that have already lost 2 games.
646  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod] on: October 16, 2023, 10:53:42 AM
Sri Lanka today got a good start. Openers gave a stand of 125 runs and if rest of batters played with responsibility then SL have chance to cross 300 runs. Sri Lankan batsmen scored 344 runs in last game but there bowling failed to defend such a huge target. Today its Australia and they have lost both of there opening games so far and they must be looking for there first win today. Definitely it will be a good contest today.
647  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod] on: October 16, 2023, 04:49:29 AM
At one point, it looked as if Afghanistan may make 300. But they lost some quick wickets and then ended up with a total of 284. All credit goes to Rahmanullah Gurbaz BTW. Without him, Afghanistan would have never made such a competitive total. He started by attacking Chris Woakes and Sam Curran. Both these bowlers ended up with economy rates of more than 10 runs per over. He deserved a century, but got run out as a result of a mistake from the Afghan captain, Hashmatullah Shahidi. Then it was the turn of Ikram Alikhil to get Afghanistan to a decent total.

It's Afghanistan second highest total in world cup. When Gurbaz was on the crease 300 were on the cards but after he got out wickets start falling until Ikram Alikhil came for rescue. Good support from Mujeeb Ur Rahman and Rashid Khan towards the end. Mujeeb was man of the match but I think Gurbaz deserves this award since he is the one who laid the foundation of this victory.
648  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod] on: October 15, 2023, 05:26:19 PM
This is the big upset match of 2023 in which England is beaten by Afghanistan. England all out on 215 runs as they failed to reach the given target of 285. Except for Harry Brook, no one played a good innings as he made 66 runs in 61 balls with 7 fours and a six. Except for this player, no one hits a six in the team England.

Whether Afghanistan played good cricket today, Rahmanullah Gurbaz scored 80 runs in 57 balls consisting of 8 fours and 4 blistering sixes. Also, Ikram Alikhil played some good shots for the side of Afghanistan with 2 sixes and 3 fours.

However, that was an upsetting game because, from the England team, we didn't expect that, even though they had a strong batting lineup and a strong bowling lineup. But sometimes it happens even with the best teams in the World.

I don't think its an upset as Afghanistan is as good as any test playing team in this tournament. England took the right decision of bowling first but its the Afghan batting that surprised English bowlers by giving a target of 285 runs today. England batting failed miserably today, they kept on losing wickets at regular intervals. England now have lost 2 of there matches in this WC and they don't have options to lose any of there remaining game. 
649  Economy / Speculation / Re: Buy the DIP, and HODL! on: October 15, 2023, 05:19:46 PM
Here is Bitcoin DCA calculator https://dcabtc.com/ that tells how much you will earn if you accumulate Bitcoin in DCA manner for specific period of time. For instance, if we invest 10$ in bitcoin on weekly basis for last one year then after one year we will get 6.52% profit. While investing 10 dollars in bitcoin on weekly basis for last 2 years will give you -11.15 loss.

Whoaza MusaPk...   You should be careful in the way that you describe that DCA calculator.

It is not showing you results that you can expect to get, but instead it is showing you results that you would have had gotten if you had DCA'ed in the way that you input into the various fields that are contained therein.

So surely past results are likely not going to be the greatest in terms of projecting what might happen in the future.. so we need to be careful in terms of describing past results in that kind of a way.

Don't get me wrong.. DCA is likely amongst the best, if not the best method to accumulate BTC for an overwhelmingly large number of normies, and BTC is likely among the best, if not the best, asset to be investing into, especially if you have a 4-10 year time horizon or longer and you tailor your BTC investment approach and level of aggressiveness in accumulating it to your personal and/or psychological circumstances.

I do agree that DCA is the best way to gather Bitcoin. There is no doubt that its adopted by many people for accumulating Bitcoin over a period of time. Gathering Bitcoin at one price is not the best way to accumulate Bitcoin.
I will go back and see my mistake in inferring DCA. Thanks for correcting me.

Based on this calculations one can figure out how effective DCA can be.

That's true.  You can see how effective that DCA has been in the past, and hypothesize how effective it can be in the future, including how effective it is likely to be in the future, but you cannot guarantee that it will be effective.  One of the greatest of underlying presumptions in regards to DCA working out is that the BTC price needs to ultimately go up to prices that are higher than your average price per BTC by the time you sell them, but it is not guaranteed to go up, even though many of us recognize bitcoin as a very strong and/or solid bet based on a variety of factors, including its ongoing building of network effects due to its strengths as the most sound of money that the world has ever witnessed, and to have been accomplished in a digital manner which brings many additional features of portability, divisibility, ongoing verifiability, etc.

Its not necessary that at the time you stop accumulating in DCA manner you are getting good profit on your total investment. In that case one may stop further accumulation and wait for price to go up. There is no way we can guarantee that what Bitcoin price will be about 6 months after. So we must keep all options open if you are investing in Bitcoin. 

May be we can add some other strategy with DCA to lessen the risk involved. DCA will be more effective if you buy during DIP and there is BULL run after you accumulate majority of your Bitcoins.

Sure.  It is possible to customize DCA in a variety of ways that may well help to cause the BTC investment to be less risky from a personal approach because it is tailored to the circumstances of the individual to account for each of the individual factors.. but merely attempting to make a strategy less risky will not always result in less risk because sometimes people make mistakes in regards to either their attempts at timing and also in terms of their position size.. so mostly when we are attempting to consider the trade-offs of less risk we also are likely attempting to account for a variety of other factors that may well also include considering how much time that we are spending to employ such strategies, is our information better as compared to just employing a more blind and regular strategy.. .might we be spending our time in other useful and enjoyable ways and maybe even increasing our cashflow so that we might merely be able to buy more bitcoin on a regular basis rather than fucking around with studying charts and maybe not even getting our calculations correctly when we could have used our 1 month worth of time to earn an extra $1k or $2k and then use most if not all of that extra money to buy bitcoin directly on a regular basis without spending so much time trying to figure out short term moves and getting them wrong 30-60% of time time.

So its better to go for DCA since its reliable or less risky compared to other available strategies. You are right that it will take considerable time to read charts or follow other things. Time is most precious thing and we must spend it in most enjoyable way.
Spend time on things that give you good return. Its useless to run after things that take too much of our time.
650  Other / Meta / Re: Difficulty in writing language start from right side on: October 15, 2023, 10:10:39 AM
I guess using the right align tag is enough like what @digaran said?
Code:
[right][/right]
Ex.
Good morning!

Or does Urdo writing goes like this
!morning Good
If it's the latter, i guess you need to use a keyboard in mobile and an extension in desktop mode to be able to come up like this writing.

I don't know, maybe someone can enlighten me between the two examples.

This is how Urdu goes.
Code:
[right]!morning Good[/right]
Just like English A,B,C is written on left, Urdu writing starts from right side. Hope it helps  Smiley

Right align is the easiest way to write Urdu from right side.

Code:
[right]آپ رائٹ الائن آپشن استعمال کر سکتے ہیں اور یہ بہت اچھی طرح کام کرتا ہے۔[/right]

آپ رائٹ الائن آپشن استعمال کر سکتے ہیں اور یہ بہت اچھی طرح کام کرتا ہے۔

651  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod] on: October 15, 2023, 10:02:08 AM
Still the performance of Afghanistan is admirable. Afghanistan made 106 runs in 14 overs. And they didn't lost any wicket. The first partnership is going well. If this partnership will remain on pitch so I am sure that Afghanistan will make 300+ runs and this will be a good target. And and will be little bit difficult to chase by England. By the way we can't say anything at this time. Let's watch who will win. Smiley

Live forecast is predicting a target of 308 at the moment. Ibrahim Zadran is the only one who got out so far while the danger man Rahmanullah Gurbaz 80(57) is still on the crease. The platform has been set by the openers for a huge target. Its up to middle order to take advantage of this platform. If Afghanistan can give target of over 300 runs then they have a chance to register there first victory of the WC.
652  Economy / Speculation / Re: Buy the DIP, and HODL! on: October 15, 2023, 09:58:14 AM
Jay's opinion is the best at the moment to encourage us to invest wisely, because investing without knowledge and also having a target is just a gambling activity.

why is the DCA concept highly recommended to every bitcoin investor because that way you have full control over the money you make, for example every month you make $1k from the work or business you do and you invest $300 or $400 every month to buy bitcoin, so you still have around 65% of the money you earn left, you can use it for your daily needs and set aside a little for your emergency fund, however, this emergency fund is what you can use later for urgent expenses, so you don't sell Bitcoin that you invested so far.

Here is Bitcoin DCA calculator https://dcabtc.com/ that tells how much you will earn if you accumulate Bitcoin in DCA manner for specific period of time. For instance, if we invest 10$ in bitcoin on weekly basis for last one year then after one year we will get 6.52% profit. While investing 10 dollars in bitcoin on weekly basis for last 2 years will give you -11.15 loss.
Based on this calculations one can figure out how effective DCA can be. May be we can add some other strategy with DCA to lessen the risk involved. DCA will be more effective if you buy during DIP and there is BULL run after you accumulate majority of your Bitcoins.
653  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod] on: October 15, 2023, 09:40:47 AM
You cannot drop the whole shit on the bowlers it is impossible for them to prevent them from bating or taking wickets as they also go under pressure, the three wickets they take are their big achievement. The whole thing did are the middle order They were out on just 2 or 4 runs. In the beginning, the match went smoothly but after 140 runs they all dropped very easily just Rizwan and Baber gave the runs. It was very disappointing for the Pakistan Crickets fans we watched just for the aggressive battle but they won the match very easily you can't neglect the performance of the Indian team they are the strongest and have the ability to defeat every team in this World Cup and seem like they will win this world cup just like the Asia cup.

Pakistan from the start were under pressure. The top 4 who scored some runs played defensively and never went after the bowlers. Pakistan lost 8 wickets for just 31 runs. They were not prepared for this big match. Its one of the most decisive victory by India in 8 wins against Pakistan in world cup. One more thing is players like Shadab and Nawaz are good for T20 format only. If you try them in ODI they will produce such results.
654  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod] on: October 14, 2023, 11:47:18 AM
Now, we are witnessing something Pakistan is known for, a middle-order collapse. After Babar's wicket, Pakistan lost 5 wickets for 16 runs. From nowhere, Pakistan is finding a way to bowled out below par at a flat wicket. Good tight bowling by the Indian bowlers; at one stage, Pakistan was looking for a target above 300, and now it seems that 200 will be a tough ask. Only a miracle can save Pakistan from losing this match.

The game is very much over for Pakistan. They were nicely going till 30th over when skipper Babar got out. Good captaincy from Rohit Sharma, he introduced Muhammad Siraj when Babar and Rizwan were looking dangerous. Siraj did the job for skipper by breaking the partnership and after that no Pakistani batsmen bothered to score runs. Now the last pair is on the crease and it seems difficult that Pakistan will be able to complete there 50 overs quota.
655  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod] on: October 14, 2023, 09:56:44 AM
Pakistanis are unpredictable team, you can expect anything from them. Pakistan only have a chance if they bat first and give huge target.

Let's see how the bookies see this match and whom they think is the favorites for this match.



Clearly, it seems that it is India who seems the favorite but do not forget these odds can change quickly if we see good performances by the Pakistan team. Since you said that the Pakistan team is unpredictable. hence anything can be expected in this match.

India is much more better side then Pakistan in this World Cup and not to forget the psychological advantage they have of 7-0. Pakistan so far are not able to trouble Indian bowlers much, after 16 over Pakistan score stand at 84/2. Current forecast is 277 runs and that will be a piece of cake for India. If Pakistan need to win this game they much score over 325 runs.
656  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod] on: October 14, 2023, 07:00:19 AM
LOL.. in the social media, the vast majority of the users are against all this. They don't want the BCCI to provide such a warm welcome to the Pakistani team, when the border tensions are still on. The match is going to take place in the largest cricket stadium in India (Narendra Modi Stadium at Ahmedabad), with a seating capacity of 132,000 people. Organizers are expecting a full-house, with many of the celebrities from India are expected to attend. I believe that the match was shifted to Saturday, so that the reserve day is set for Sunday. Anyway, no rains are predicted for today, and therefore the question of match getting extended to tomorrow should not arise.

The vast majority of India may be against this but BCCI has scheduled this match in biggest stadium (to earn maximum) and there is house full to see the match.
Pakistan and India have played 7 match in ODI world cup and all went in India favor. Pakistan yet to beat India in ODI WC and odds are once again in favor of India for today's match.
Pakistanis are unpredictable team, you can expect anything from them. Pakistan only have a chance if they bat first and give huge target.
657  Economy / Speculation / Re: Buy the DIP, and HODL! on: October 14, 2023, 06:49:15 AM
As we were discussing this, Bitcoin once again started going down. Right now the price is at 26.6k on CMC and we cant say with certainty that where price will go from this. 25k support may be tested once again.
People give too many predictions at times and if anyone of those went true they say "I told you so". The fact is we have seen so many predictions about Bitcoin and majority were false.
In current scenario it is easy to predict that price may restrict in 25 to 30k range because thats how bitcoin is behaving for last few months. But there is no way we can predict the long term price of Bitcoin.
I am not worried about the price. Because the war created fear in everyone's mind, but it did not have any effect in reality. Because many people use bitcoin to send money to the war area here too we find the use of Bitcoin. But we will not always take it negatively because for those of us who have been waiting to buy, an opportunity has come again. Although I think this situation may return to normal in a few days, but during this period those who exploit and buy bitcoin from the dip will be comparatively more profitable than others. Since we are committed to investing in Bitcoin for a long time, we are not worried about temporary price fluctuations.

There is nothing to worry about price of Bitcoin. We have seen that ups and downs are part of Bitcoin price since its a stable coin. Bitcoin has come down to current price of 26.8k$ after touching 28k$ few days back. If you see price pattern of Bitcoin for last 6 months then its confined in the range of 24k$ to 30k$. Buying Bitcoin is more profitable when its down and one may take this as buying opportunity. There are many predictions about price of Bitcoin, do only what you think is best for your money. In the end its you who have to bear the loss or enjoy profit. Dont rush in buying Bitcoin just do it slowly i.e. in DCA manner.
658  Local / Other languages/locations / Re: Pakistan on: October 14, 2023, 06:29:56 AM
Salam dosto Smiley

So as promised half payment from the Campaign id going to out community.

Which will be 0.004142/2 *  $27,520 =  $56.99

Please suggest I will wait for your suggestions and mean while I will put $57 ~ USDT in our FunCoin Karobar.

With this after quite some time let me update the latest balance sheet.

Aakhir pe Funcoin Karobar ki Update#13 (12-10-2023):

Last update was exactly 3 months back.. sorry for the delay guys Smiley

Check karin phir Allah ne kesi barkat dali hia hamaray Karobar main dekhin balace $57 se jump maar kar aik dam $114.63 hogia hia.

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Mujhya kushi is baat ke hy ka ma bhe is project ka adna sa investor hn. Ap na jis spirit sa is project ko start kea wo pori tarah sa achieve to nhi ho saqa pr phr bhe kuch na kuch activity chalti he rahi hy. Umeed hy ky ya project chalta rhya ga aur is ma mazeed log join krn gy aur hum kuch na kuch activity is project ka hawla sa krta rhyn gy.

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Yar thora explain karyn gay what is this? Lately wasn't active is thread main to idea nai ha is baray main. Agar app telegram group main bhy yyeah ideas wgera share kae deya karyn to pata lag jye. daily m.a yahan kafy posting ho rhy hoty han to kafy cheezyn miss ho jaty ha.

Irfan bhai ya project kafi purana hy. Januaray ya Februaray ma start hue tha. Motive ya tha ka yahan ka yahn ka apn community ka log mil ka kuch investment kran aur profit sub ma share ho.
Ya project Funcoin Frenzy ka naam sa start hua aur baad ma naam change kr ky funcoin karobar kr dea gya.
Apko link send kr rha hn jo ka is project ka start ke post ka ha wahan sa apko idea ho jya ga ka ya kya cheez hy
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=232519.msg61690287#msg61690287
659  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: T20 and T20I cricket prediction and discussion on: October 13, 2023, 07:04:42 PM
Mongolia was playing their first ever international match. What do you expect from them? The issue is that stronger teams play against these associate teams only in competitions such as Asian Games. Therefore I am also not in favor of taking away this opportunity. JSRAW has a valid point here. Each and every nation should take part in the qualifier tournament. The BCCI wants teams to get direct entry based on the T20I ranking. But then, the ICC ranking is heavily biased in favor of the full members and I am not in favor of using it as a means of qualification.

Then there must be some pre-qualifying round where teams like Mongolia were not capable of playing are segregated out. This is the only way we can see a competitive qualifying round. But for that we need strong cricketing countries which is not possible atleast in next coming 10 years. Thanks to cricket promoting policies of icc.
Whether like it or not cricket is what BCCI want and dictate to icc. Never expect icc will take any decision that will offend BCCI.
660  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod] on: October 13, 2023, 06:38:26 AM
Bangladesh vs New Zealand
The toss is very important in this match so both teams will want to bat first after winning the toss.
In my point of view if New Zealand will take first turn and will go above 300 runs so it will be little bit difficult for the Bangladesh team. Because Bangladesh were unable to win the match against England and England scored 364 runs and Bangladesh team got out all of the team at 277 runs. In the previous two matches bowled well and I hope today will also bowl well. So let's see who will win, I think New Zealand will win today match. Smiley

Just before the world cup there is 3 ODI match series between NZ and Bangladesh. The series was easily won by NZ 2-0. Bangladesh has lost its game against England while they got victory against Afghanistan. Odds may be in favour of NZ but you cant rule out victory chances for Bangladesh. Bangladesh can win the game if there bowlers and batsmen both work together.
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