This is a potential threat that some miners comply with the "rules" that organizations and governments try to apply in order to hold Bitcoin back.

What I do know is that 1ECeZBxCVJ8Wm2JSN3Cyc6rge2gnvD3W5K successfully moved to 16r7U7GqbVPeKukgfd3mUN9LCkuoKbfpXM in this block https://mempool.space/block/00000000000000000001bae714c1fbc509fcc40dac3ade7becff09ccd772a3f6 on ‎2023-09-21 06:59

This has nothing to do with fungibility. The recipient received many inputs of 0.0002 BTC. All of them are equal. The difference is that some miners will comply with the regulations that authoriarian governments make.

It's not a problem though.

The address 1ECeZBxCVJ8Wm2JSN3Cyc6rge2gnvD3W5K paid 16r7U7GqbVPeKukgfd3mUN9LCkuoKbfpXM again in this transaction https://mempool.space/tx/34e962671a1da560ada50c453e4f41443ca44cb084dda0d45799e2fbc7a84128 on 2023-10-12 05:07

Bitcoin is ok after all. Let them try harder!

Συμφωνώ! αλλά δεν υπάρχει μόνο η Ομόνοια. Πάντως προφανώς κατανοώ αυτό που λες.


Αυτό δεν το ήξερα για το mining, αλλά έτσι κι αλλιώς δεν με απασχολεί σε επίπεδο φορολογικής δήλωσης

Aν θες τη γνώμη μου, κανέναν δεν χρειάζεται να "εμπιστεύεσαι". Νομίζω πως είναι πολύ δύσκολο να scamαριστεί κάποιος αν βρεθούν δυο μέλη του forum face to face και κανουν μια συναλλαγή. Το πιο δύσκολο θα ήταν να εκδηλωθει ενδιαφέρον για την πρόταση μου. Αν βρεθούν trading partners, δεν χρειάζεται και τεράστια εμπιστοσύνη. Φυσικά αυτή είναι απλώς η γνώμη μου !

Πάντως παιδιά, χωρίς πλάκα, όσοι είμαστε στις ίδιες πόλεις μπορούμε να κανονίζουμε να κάνουμε ανταλλαγές. Από το να τις κάνουμε με αγνώστους. Μιλάω πάντα για face-2-face, μιας και το BISQ και το Robosats δουλεύει περίφημα για μένα ως τώρα.

Unfortunately, I don't follow you. I will quote myself:


I don't want to increase the blocksize "just a little" because in my opinion it will not solve the issue.
I don't want to increase the blocksize "a lot" because of the reasons I have already mentionned.

So I don't want to scale, leap, high-jump, run, dive or do any sporting event.

If the blocksize scales "a little", I will accept it, even though I disagree.
If the blocksize scales "a lot", I am leaving.

So simple!

Kαμια αντίρρηση, ειλικρινά! Μπορούμε να δίνουμε ραντεβού έξω από ένα ATM. Επί τόπου σηκώνω λεφτά και τα δίνω στον πωλητή. Έτσι κι αυτός έχει "φρέσκα" χρήματα και δεν κινδυνεύει από χαλασμένα χαρτονομίσματα.

Μια φορά το έχω κάνει μόνο. Και όχι στην Ομόνοια  

There are many people who don't share the same logic that I do and it is totally fine.


The network shouldn't stop. No! However, the inspiration was that everyone should be able to run a node.

To this extent, I think increasing the block size a little will not hurt, but I am against it because it will not solve the "problem" on the long run.


I didn't say that. If someone doesn't have the comfort to run a node, it doesn't mean I will stop running a node. I will, however, keep the blocksize low, so that I don't make it even more difficult for them to run a node.

Of course, but it seriously depends on where you live. Unfortunately some people live in countries that don't advance in the same pace. Meaning that poverty is too high to be able to cope with the technological progress...

Of course it can be used for money laundering. Of course it can be used for illicit activities. So... ?

It doesn't matter what other people do with their money, just do your part and everything will be allright.

Any type of money can also be used for illicit activities with various techniques. It doesn't matter at all. You are not a criminal if an $100 bill that has been used for illegal actions 5 years ago ends in your hands. You can't know. You don't have to know!

I don't understand why people claim BTC is not fungible, but XMR is.

Bitcoin is fungible. I can send you 0.1 BTC and you can send me back 0.1 BTC and it will be exactly the same.

USD is fungible. I can give you $10 and you can give me $10 and it will be the exact same thing. Provided that the bills are not damaged of course.

XMR is fungible. I can send you 10 XMR and you can send me back 10 XMR and it will be exactly the same.


Monero (XMR) is indeed more private, being untraceable, meaning that you can't link the sender with the receiver.

However, Bitcoin and USD are both fungible. Indeed in Bitcoin you can go back to the coinbase transaction that created the UTXO that you own. But, so what? History doesn't spoil fungibility. If it did, then you wouldn't lend your friend $50 to buy his favorite PC game, because he would never be able to send you back the exact same dollar bill.


Personally I mix my UTXOs. The reason is not that I am afraid that the UTXOs I own are linked with illicit activities. I do it because I don't want anyone to know how much I own. The history of my UTXO isn't erased after the coinjoins. The only thing that happens is that I make my UTXOs unlinkable, so if someone sends me 1BTC, they will always know they have sent me 1BTC but thanks to coinjoins they will never know which path this UTXO has taken on the blockchain. And YES! Monero has this by default!

This is how you got scammed. Please edit the original post and add a warning that this website mustn't be used. Make it clear.

Unfortunately the owner of the website got access to your words. He used a template that he got from Ian Coleman's website. He is a lazy bastard... He told you "no worries, I only want the hash160, here is website to convert it".

And ... he got access to your funds... I am really sorry mate.

So did you import your 12/24 words there in order to get the hash160 and hashkey ?

I totally agree, but why did OP mention this website in the first place and where did he find about it? With a single search on google it didn't come up. The resemblance with Ian Coleman's website is uncanny, which leads me to believe this whole topic may be a scam, unless OP proves me wrong.

I am not sure I understand this. You mean the hash of your public key?

In the website you posted: hash160.com says "hash key" but there is no way I am ever going to put my seed phrase there, just to see what it is.

How did you come across this website? It looks very suspicious man! It is basically a copy of this https://iancoleman.io/bip39/ but I can't understand what is the use of this website you have asked about.

Essentially hash160 is derived from your public key if you apply SHA256 and RIPEMD160 to it. Check here: https://learnmeabitcoin.com/technical/public-key-hash

Therefore, there is no way if someone knew this that they could steal your money. They would need to go backwards from hash160 to public key and then to private key. But this is not possible.

Unfortunately, there is nothing to be done, it has 10 confirmations. Also unfortunately you lost a lot of money. How did it happen? Did you give someone your seed phrase? The 12/24 words you have

P.S The person who stole your money used a fee of ~240 sats/vB, which was x4 the fees at the time. Which looks like the thief wanted it to be confirmed ASAP.

Would you like to share the transaction id? So we can look to an explorer? If there are confirmations, unfortunately there is nothing you can do. In Bitcoin, transactions are irreversible. Sorry!

what do you mean? do you have the transaction that emptied your wallet? seems like you imply you got scammed. Sorry to hear this.

I have never heard of this site. It suspiciously looks like this: https://iancoleman.io/bip39/ which is legit but must be run totally offline.

Does anyone know of hash160.com ?

Also, what do you mean get access to your wallet?

Sorry to say it, but your post seems somewhat suspicious. Hope you prove me wrong.

This is exactly what I hoped I wouldn't get as an answer 

Do you think this "thesis" proves anything? To me it doesn't!