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641  Economy / Gambling / Re: [1 BTC] Bitcoin Doubler, plus referral program. on: May 08, 2011, 07:32:10 PM
Why would you be against this?

As someone somewhere else stated, this kind of pyramid or ponzi scheme is just gambling.

It's gambling that you'll get in before people stop joining. That's why nobody joins fxnet now because everybody is already on fxnet. It's a bet on how many people will join and how quickly.

It's a project that is going to besmirch the Bitcoin name.

And no, ponzi schemes are not "gambling". Read this, there is quite a bit of truth to it.

The doood's bitcoin tosser however, now that is gambling, go enjoy and have fun with that if you're trying to get rich quick.
642  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / The Most Important Bitcoin Client Feature IMHO... on: May 08, 2011, 07:27:23 PM
Would be updating automatically, or at least informing the user that a new version of the Bitcoin client is available.

FileZilla, VLC, uTorrent, and many other open source projects do this quite nicely. Could we simply borrow their code?

Would bitcoin's decentralized nature might make this a bit more difficult?

Nobody would feel comfortable associating just one domain name with the "update notification" code I doubt, it would be too simple of an attack vector. Perhaps once we get the bitDNS and/or namecoin setup...
643  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Why Does The Bitcoin Server Create ~5x Fewer Connections Than Regular Bitcoin? on: May 08, 2011, 07:23:03 PM
I seem to recall someone else mentioning this earlier and attributing it to Windows.  I don't know much about Windows networking code, but is there some sort of adjustable limitation placed on services?  My detached bitcoind process running under Linux currently has 114 connections.
As gavin said, its the same code either way.  My bet is the OP opened it once noticed quite a few connections, closed it, and opened bitcoin one last time with -server causing him to lose all the previous connections.  Even after waiting a while, those connections didn't come back because the clients who did have his node in their known node list lost their connection they won't make a new one and others just didn't connect to him. 

Update: 3 full days later of running bitcoin.exe -server and I am only up to 43 connections. It climbs steadily...

BUT, if I were to simply open bitcoin.exe by double clicking on it, without adding the -server command... I would be up to 50-60 connections within a matter of minutes.

Something about this doesn't seem right.

I am running Windows 7 Ultimate, 32 bit.
644  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Bitcoin Debit/Gift Card? on: May 08, 2011, 07:15:18 PM
I guess we need to pitch these ideas to people with money Tongue

I could day dream about Bitcoin possibilities all day long...
645  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: How To ReStart Frozen GPU? on: May 08, 2011, 07:14:07 PM
I wonder if you still have access to the mashine if your GPU freezes?! If you are running Linux and still have access via SSH for example you could try rmmod/modprobe the driver. Or reenable the CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE combination /etc/inittab in order to kick and restart the X Server (might still be enabled in your distro) if your keyboard is still alive and being polled by the kernel. Furthermore you might be able to drop to a debug shell if you have Magic System Request enabled in your kernel. But i doubt you might be able to recover from there.

This all are no out-of-the-box solutions and chances are not too high you succeed with any of them, but you might want to tinker with this options if you are using Linux.

Hrmmm, nice idea!

You're right, just because my desktop is frozen doesn't mean that SSH shouldn't work...

I will give 'er a try, thanks!
646  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: PCIe x1 capable of transmitting video or only mining? on: May 08, 2011, 07:12:51 PM
Ok so technopagan was nice enough to chime in and let me know what he does when creating his pcie x1 extension cables for x16 boards...

Apparently: It's pins A2+A3+B1+B2+B3 that require bridging.

But shivanas only suggests bridging two pins?

Which one is it, guys?

I don't feel like frying my motherboard today :S
647  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: PCI-E 1x Mining? on: May 08, 2011, 07:10:30 PM
take your 1x pcie slot, and cut off the end of it, so it will fit a x16 card. and then you're ready to go!

Not exactly... you probably need to bridge some of the pins first to make an x16 card "acceptable" for an x1 extension cable. I created a similar thread here, and shivanas suggested this.

Still have yet to try it out.
648  Bitcoin / Mining / Can Somebody Explain Exactly Just What "Long Polling" Is? on: May 08, 2011, 07:02:27 PM
I did a search for "bitcoin long polling" and didn't find much.

I am sure many others have the same question.

So, what is long polling?
649  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: ATI Video Cards... Series 5 vs Series 6 on: May 08, 2011, 06:58:19 PM
In terms of maximum possible hashing the 5xxx series have a slight edge, but 6xxx is no slouch in comparison. They are not too far apart when they are clocked and set right.

One of the biggest adv 5xxx had on 6xxx was price, but even that is really a wash now. In fact if you need a steady supply of hardware or don't want to look for used hardware this 6xxx maybe the only route at this point to go.

The power draw maybe the the fine line because 6xxx will come with 2gb variant and does consume more power as a result.

The 6990s are king apparently on the mining comparison wiki page...
650  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Hybrid remote and RPC pool on: May 08, 2011, 06:51:39 PM
Hey all,

I got a mining pool going using the Remote Miner bitcoin.

About 14 CPU servers are using the remotecpu miner that is packaged with that, although I had to build for source on linux, and the server is running win7.

Additionally I am running on the bitcoin server options -server and -remoteserver.

All the remote CPUs connect fine and the bitcoin server shows total around 20,000 khash/s

I also am using the poclbm on my ATI Firepro 8700 connecting via RPC on the bitcoin server  poclbm shows around 85 khash/s for that.

I am assuming my total processing is around a 100 khash/s but the client only shows the remote khash.  I noticed this also on the standard bitcoin when doing RPC miners, it does not show the hash rate from the RPC miners.

Anyway, everything seems to work, and I was just wondering if this is a supported configuration, i.e. the 100 khash/s is actually the total amount of work being applied to my mining pool.  Anyone can verify or has a similar configuration?  Thanks!

100khash/s from ~14 CPUs sounds about right!

How many watts of electricity are you using?
651  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: The Super Profitable Mining Setup...?!?! on: May 08, 2011, 06:50:55 PM
The block that you are working on from the pool includes the 50BTC payment (for generation) going to the Pool's address, not yours. If you change the address, the hash isn't valid anymore and won't be accepted by the network.

Really?

Where is this raw example block does it mention any bitcoin address?

That's what the following is in the 50BTC transaction:

"scriptPubKey":"0423c7c671e353169fa31244d8d8d513cf6c62bd016a09efb5316961b1b60512a7238a227e0ca6d f8905e69ae4e1c7d5ef50039f3c7fe2e0bdd6f135bdf3900605 OP_CHECKSIG"

Ahhhh, so that is the pool's public key?

Makes sense! Thank you, xenon481
652  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: when is the exact month it will go from 50 btc to 25? on: May 08, 2011, 06:45:20 PM
So Bitcoin is ending in Dec. 2012?

Lol, sheeple.
653  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: How do I figure out what my hashrate is? on: May 08, 2011, 06:44:15 PM
How is deepbit.net hashrate calculated? It varies a lot, while that reported in my client does not.

Huh

The deepbit.net hashrate is a mining pool. It varies every time somebody enters or exits the pool.
654  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: The Super Profitable Mining Setup...?!?! on: May 08, 2011, 06:43:16 PM
The block that you are working on from the pool includes the 50BTC payment (for generation) going to the Pool's address, not yours. If you change the address, the hash isn't valid anymore and won't be accepted by the network.

Really?

Where in this raw example block does it mention any bitcoin address?
655  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Why to NOT consider AWS GPU cluster mining [summary analysis] on: May 08, 2011, 06:35:09 PM
You didn't actually spend $500 did you?!

You could have run each of them for an hour and received the same results, right?!
656  Bitcoin / Mining / The Super Profitable Mining Setup...?!?! on: May 08, 2011, 06:33:39 PM
I was just thinking of this the other night...

Perhaps the mining pools aren't everything they are cut out to be...

What is stopping me from:

1) Joining a mining pool.

2) Modifying a miner to only send the "shares" to the mining pool. (And get paid for each share, like everybody else).

3) Send only the "winning" hashes to the Bitcoin network myself. (And get paid for each block that I solve!).

I would therefore be contributing absolutely nothing (except difficulty 1 shares) to the mining pool, only "stealing" from it in a sense.

Slush and/or tycho... can you prove that this practice is impossible?
657  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: What Is The Highest Fee Ever Collected For Mining A Block So Far? on: May 08, 2011, 08:31:38 AM
A short script running getblockbycount revealed that the highest combined fee so far was 6.71 BTC in block 55812
http://blockexplorer.com/b/55812
In more recent times, there were a few blocks with fees above 2BTC. This one is the most recent:
http://blockexplorer.com/b/120528

Great, thanks Raulo!

At this rate, miners will probably receive more than 50 BTC per block after 2013!
658  Bitcoin / Mining / What Is The Highest Fee Ever Collected For Mining A Block So Far? on: May 08, 2011, 06:54:08 AM
I was surprised to see 0.26 BTC in fees for one block I mined the other day.

Does blockexplorer (or anybody) keep track of these things?
659  Economy / Gambling / Re: [1 BTC] Bitcoin Doubler, plus referral program. on: May 08, 2011, 03:36:29 AM
I don't participate in things like this, precisely because it bothers me. It feels too much like ripping someone off, or getting ripped off, and not knowing which going into the transaction.

For me it feels like letting people use their own free will to participate in a game, or not participate.


This is no game. This is simply placing money into your pocket. End of story.

You should be ashamed of yourself, and I sure you would be if you had any moral compass whatsoever.
660  Economy / Gambling / Re: [1 BTC] Bitcoin Doubler, plus referral program. on: May 08, 2011, 03:33:49 AM
Do these types of 'make money without doing anything productive' schemes bother anybody else, or am I just a financial prude who doesn't recognize harmless fun when I see it?

I feel like we might soon need a Frequently Seen Schemes to go along with our FAQ, just to let people know that using a different currency doesn't suspend the laws of economics.


100% agree with you Gavin. I have been protesting these types of things from the very beginning.

Don't be ridiculous people, ponzi schemes do not work. The only person who will make any real money is "doood", the OP of this thread.

Besides, if it did work (and many millions of people signed up and lost their money...), BTC would be worthless anyways... so it's lose/lose for everybody involved really.

I mean really, why do it with bitcoins? Why don't you idiots just send him $1 via PayPal, and he will send you $2 in a few days..? PayPal takes less than a 13% cut, so the OP would still be profiting (which is his main goal here).

I thought that we were not allowed to list anything for sale or on this forum that was illegal in the united states and/or Japan?

IANAL But I am pretty sure that HYIPs, ponzi schemes, and financial pyramids of the same ilk are quite illegal in both countries.

Please excuse me when I say "Get your illegal ponzi type crap out of this forum."
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