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641  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Best Investments on: April 04, 2017, 09:10:38 AM
Best investment new which I have founded is matrix site because when you find a team you can earn a really big money and become rich really fast what is 100x better than invest in some cyclers,casions and other things.

What is matrix site, and how to find a team? Can you give more informations about this Matrix? I`m searching on the net, but all what I see is movie and some stupid games, I wish to earn nice money, not big, but something nice would be good, please share more about this matrix site, and how to find team and other important things that you think we need to be successful. Thanks in advance, I will check topic again for answer or you can send me pm, thanks.

Let me warn you right there. I'm doing you a favor. Don't listen to any PM you will get from him. A matrix is basically a Multi-Level Marketing aka Networking. Anything that sounds too good to be true, especially online, is a scam. 100x your money? Are you kidding me? Maybe you can do that but it will require you thousands of referrals. Are you sure you can persuade or manipulate people into paying money just so he can join a company? Everyone knows about these little scams that gets renamed a lot.

MLM, Matrix, Rev Share, they are all ponzi schemes with different payment mechanisms. Ultimately, all of them depends on the payments of the newcomers and nothing else. There's no method or investment going on behind all that, just pure scams.

Thank you very much Fatanut for nice explanation. I know for MLM, RevShare, but for matrix I didn`t know, I thought is some game or investing in some game cause of this finding a good team. I`m new in all this, and cause of that I like to ask for everything before I make a move. I wouldn`t trust this guy if there is no one to confirm his story, good that community here is always here to help. Thanks once again for nice explanation, I will keep away from this matrix schemes.
642  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Best Investments on: April 03, 2017, 03:37:40 PM
Best investment new which I have founded is matrix site because when you find a team you can earn a really big money and become rich really fast what is 100x better than invest in some cyclers,casions and other things.

What is matrix site, and how to find a team? Can you give more informations about this Matrix? I`m searching on the net, but all what I see is movie and some stupid games, I wish to earn nice money, not big, but something nice would be good, please share more about this matrix site, and how to find team and other important things that you think we need to be successful. Thanks in advance, I will check topic again for answer or you can send me pm, thanks.
643  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does experience matter in gambling? on: April 03, 2017, 09:18:46 AM
That's right that you can minimize your losses by reducing the bets but I still believe that casino games are purely luck based and not possible to develop any strategy in winning and even no experience can help you out unless you are betting on sports.

You are only half right.

Gambling is anything that has an unknown risk, or a risk that is known to be negative towards you.

So playing poker is considered gambling, playing blackjack is considered gambling.

If you play blackjack and you are experienced, you can drastically shrink the house edge towards your favour. So you stand a better chance of winning against the house than a newbie who doesn't know strategies of blackjack. If you are playing pvp poker, obviously if you are skilled then your opponent have a big chance of losing to you if they are inexperienced.

However, if it's just a dice game, sure, experience does not matter at all.

Gambling is anything that has an unknown risk, or a risk that is known to be negative towards you. WRONG!
Gambling is calculated risk, you always know how much you risk, cause you choose the bet, you choose odds. What you wish more? I don`t know any unknown risk, cause today you can do the math about everything and to check what kind of results you can expect. In gambling its the same, so learn more about gambling and then come here to talk shit.
 
644  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ANY STRATEGY TO WIN IN GAMBLING? on: April 02, 2017, 06:02:15 PM
5 bucks every day, why not, its not something impossible. There is no special strategy for this to make, you just go and put 5 dollars on any x2 and that's it. 50 % chances to take 5 dollars and 50 % to lose the money you have. Here chances to make 5 dollars go higher with your bankroll, and its easier to make just 5 bucks with 100 bucks. Strategy for this is to relax, go pick red or black and spin the wheal.
645  Economy / Economics / Re: WILL BITCOIN BE USED BY ALMOST EVERYONE IN 2022? on: April 01, 2017, 10:05:15 AM
So long and distant future, the year 2022, but since we are rapidly heading towards cashless socitey and new and very developed technologies I wouldn't be surprised. Bitcoin has very big chances to survive this turbulent period and become stronger and more powerful and thus even more accepted everywhere in the world.

What you are saying is possible, but not in a 4 to 5 years. 2022 is not so distant future, for everyone to get in touch with bitcoin need to pass minimum 20 years or even more I would say, and I take my conclusions from the observing of the people around me, they don`t wish any connections with something on the internet, they are old and only when new generations come we can expect everyone to use bitcoins, but even 20 years is a short period of time for changing generations.
646  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or gold? on: March 31, 2017, 09:58:20 AM
If you had to convert all your wealth to either Bitcoin or gold and keep it there for 10 years, which would you choose?

In 10 years gold will be where it is now or a bit higher, nothing more. Bitcoin 10 years from now can worth 10 thousand dollars, or to not be here at all. With bitcoins risk is higher and profit on the end can be higher, with gold investment is safer but profit in the end will not be so high. In my current financial situation I would chose bitcoins, its all or nothing. If I`m rich, I would consider bitcoin as investment, and gold as saving.
647  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to make a good amount with 0.01BTC? on: March 31, 2017, 05:34:28 AM
To make decent money with gambling you or anyone need to gamble with decent amount. With 0.01 btc reasonably is to make 0.02 btc or maximum 0.03 btc, for everything more then that you risk too much. When I gamble I don`t have high expectations, when ever I had them I lost more then I won, from that I learned to gamble and to not expect nothing in return, so every win is great, and loss is expected.
648  Economy / Economics / Re: Make money from money on: March 30, 2017, 11:15:08 AM
Lol first of all in order to be a successful investors you need experience. Do you think it is actually that easy to be rich in few days. Before becoming a successful investor you should ask them how much risk they actually took and how much loss they had made in there initial year to make high profits like this.

Experience? You don`t ask ladies how old they are, and you don`t ask men`s about their first million!!!Think about it and you will understand why it is like that. You need to be shark, you need to be a fox, do what you need to do in right time, risk your ass or use your brain, and that is how someone become successful! Only after that comes, money makes money, and that is truth, after first million everything is easier.
649  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Should i join mypayingcryptoads? on: March 30, 2017, 07:55:06 AM
For now just stay away from it as it is obviously a ponzi scheme from starting itself. If you had invested when the site was launched newly it would have been better but the site is pretty old and it can just close down anyday soon.

From what I have seen here this site doesn`t have promising future. I wouldn`t  like to lose money on schemes like this one, thanks to the community here all this scam sites are discovered for new people like I`m.
I will stay away from this site, and I noticed that some of you know how things works, can you suggest some other site where we can earn from ads?
650  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Best Investments on: March 29, 2017, 11:47:06 PM
I don't know but most of the investment through bitcoin is just a HYIP,
So it would just turn into a scam after a couple of days or a week.

I`m new here, and even I read about HYIP I cant recognize what is HYIP, what is Ponzi, and some other scam systems. All I know that here on forum its written million times don't trust it if they promise something amazing, if sounds too good to be truth, so I follow just that advice and if in start I notice something suspicious I run away.
There is one more thing I noticed, even there is million threads like this one, and I pass trough most of them, I couldn`t find any good suggestion about safe investment with bitcoins, except maybe investing in casino bankrolls, but I didn`t read more about it.
651  Economy / Economics / Re: Why is bitcoin worth? Welcome to discuss on: March 29, 2017, 09:48:43 PM
Someone has said bitcoin is of no value, in my heart I think they said is wrong, I always think that bitcoin is valuable, but I didn't understand what is the origin of the value of bitcoin, why accept more people, its value will rise? If you have other ideas, please discuss.

Bitcoin price directly shows how valuable bitcoin is in many different currencies, also with bitcoin you can buy properties and other material stuff. That represents the value of bitcoin, by that not just your heart is right you can back up that with facts and evidences.
Miners and users represents bitcoin, and one can not work without other, its how I understand bitcoin economy, and more people involved means more transactions more fee`s, more profit for miners, everyone is happy that we avoid system and that is the origin of bitcoin value in my non professional opinion.
652  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you use analysis when play gambling? on: March 29, 2017, 06:36:10 PM
I just take a fast look on statistic and previous matches when I plan to bet on same game, that is all. Usually I don`t do even that, cause I follow some teams and I already know in what form they are and their history. Only in sport betting I analyze statistic for some teams, in other games I play mostly on luck.
653  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why we still gambling while we always lose? on: March 28, 2017, 10:43:40 PM
We are still gambling, because it's a passion for us. True gambler, never stop doing that in a big part in his life. We can't avoid doing that.
For me, I can't stop gambling, because it's a source for fun and pleasure. Really i don't consider gambling like a source of profit. but i can't leave it. Even if i lose or i win, I still gamble, because i need this fun in my life. True gamlber can feel this feeling.

No, it's not all about passion, it's about addiction and money. It's hard to accept that even though we are losing a lot once we experienced that good money can play around and earn with gambling, you will keep on gambling no matter what happens. As long you do have a goal that you can earn big from it, you'll never stop.

Addiction no, but money yes. Gambling is running for the money, fast running! Why would a man spend 10h on a hard work and earn 50 $, when a man can sit in chair and earn 50 $ in couple minutes, tempting isn`t it?
How can you earn million dollars? Fastest and most cheapest way is guess which one? Lotto! For one dollar you can become millionaire in a second, and you risk that dollar every day, even if you are losing everyday you are going back day by day.
654  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin saving on: March 28, 2017, 05:51:11 PM
You can save with any currency, and implement any saving system with bitcoins. Only thing you need to worry is income, do you make enough to save with some system. Sometimes is good to save I guess, if you don`t have big needs, or you can control them then why not, put bitcoins on a side and watch the value grows.
655  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The reason why people do not get Bitcoin. on: March 28, 2017, 10:52:40 AM
Most of the people don`t have knowledge about the world outside their neighborhood, people do not understand many things, how to explain the reason why they don't get bitcoin, like there is just one. How many different types of personalities there is, and each person have different character. Most of the reasons here are right, every person is unique and therefore we can not claim that there is just one reason why people do not get bitcoin.
656  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What would happen if BTC was Banned? on: March 27, 2017, 05:43:43 AM
If bitcoin completely gets banned in future then I think it will create an havoc in the minds of the people and will loose all their money and it will be very hard for those who have invested huge amount of money and it may even make them bankrupt and will become difficult for them to survive.

This would be not the first time for that to happen, people bankrupt all the time cause bad investments. I don`t have enough knowledge about blockchain to claim anything, with just observing I see forum is full with people that have more trust in some other coins, for example eth, dash, and they think that this coins can replace bitcoin. My logic tells me that in case of bitcoin banning, some of this coins can take leading position, or someone will come up with new and fresh idea.
657  Economy / Economics / Re: Future of Bitcoin Economics on: March 26, 2017, 08:38:27 PM
Some comments are very optimistic, that's what I noticed first. My opinion about bitcoin future is divided, I would like to cost more and to be adopted in the world, but how can that happen? I'm not familiar with potential of bitcoin even many here talk about it. Close friends don't wish nothing with bitcoins, and that push me away when I wish to invest in bitcoin, I think that many feel's like I do.
658  Economy / Economics / Re: Reason why you should Buy bitcoin now on: March 26, 2017, 01:59:40 PM
at this stage it is better to wait and watch till bitcoin hard-fork or segwit decision is taken and implemented. Till then move your bitcoins from online wallet to desktop or hardware wallet whose private keys will be with you.

There is a big storm coming soon, and something will happen to bitcoin with all this argues around. Now its big risk to buy bitcoin that is true, but I have one conspiracy theory, do someone manipulate with markets? Bitcoin is going down, few alts are way up?! Will this alts go down, and bitoin back up? People who makes this manipulations can earn a lot from buying and selling before something actually happens, that means one group will earn from this and many others will stay short.
659  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Fuck: SegWit, LN, Blockstream, Core, Adam Back, and GMazwell on: March 25, 2017, 07:37:31 PM
Re: Fuck: SegWit, LN, Blockstream, Core, Adam Back, and GMazwell

You are going to end up with $0 if you acquire fake BTU tokens instead of real Bitcoins.

It isn't my opinion. Rather it is the economics and technological facts. You can choose to pursue reality or delusion, but only reality is what you will get.

I`m newbie in many things, can you please explain to me what is the difference between real and fake bitcoins? How can we notice the difference?
I understand that some dev`s have different opinion on how should bitcoin be upgraded, many things are complicated for me to understand, can someone clear up things for me?
Whom to trust, I noticed some names, and many people argue what is right, and everyone tell some other story. I`m ordinary man, and I think there is many people here just like I`m, how can we know who tells the truth and really wish good for bitcoin, and who is looking for fast profit?
660  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why trading is better than gambling? on: March 25, 2017, 12:40:32 AM
Hey! guys i need your opinion and help because i didn't know about this trading thing i only know about how you can earn bitcoin by gambling but still my friend told me that gambling is not the way to earn bitcoin but if you try trading you will earn much profit why is that so guys? trading is better than bitcoin? how? why? where to find that trading thing?

Trading will always be a better than gambling because it is much profitable and that is the reality facts. Gambling will just give frustration and disappointment in the end, and worst loses of money will wasted only.

Much profitable for whom? And where did you took that results from? You leading people to something that suits you, but that has nothing to do with reality actually. Gambling and trading are pretty much same things, you risk in both to make profit, that is gambling or trading, you never know the results. I`m not good in gambling and I`m not good in trading, but I don`t talk bad about it around, I`m trying to learn and that`s it, when I lose I take a deep breath and continue.
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