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641  Economy / Gambling / Re: Rollbit.com | Crypto's Most Rewarding Casino 👑 on: December 15, 2023, 11:09:59 PM
Well actually I tend to notice most people will dump their RLB when bull start. Just like a week ago

I think this will not be the case anymore, those who got their RLB free had been selling it when the RLB market started uptrend last time.  I think the  RLB holders now has more patience and for sure they will be holding RLB for some time, and if RLB started to get bullish, the possibility of FOMO-ing is always there  so it won't be surprising if we see another run that will break its current ATH.  But for sure, dumping will happen when someone wants to cash out their profit.


I find it normal since that's what we really need to do if we see a huge price upwards happening. Will surely join those people who will take a profit since this is already a good opportunity for us to earn. But also once the price lower down we can again buy some stash then hold for another time since there will be more price pump will happen especially next year where almost all tokens in the market will be drag by the hype of potential bull run to come.

FOMO will be there once price is starting to pump again so we should not be in that situation since we might placed our position at high price when price is continue to pump that's why as early as we can we should grab the opportunity to buy cheap RLB since its hard to get stress to hold quiet sometime especially if we bought at the top and we wait for some recovery thing that will happen.
642  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What do you think will be the next hype in crypto? on: December 15, 2023, 10:10:40 PM
From memecoins to nft's etc what do you think will be the next hype of 2024 or 2025? I personally think of real utility and true privacy. I think CBDC's and constant blockchain tracking will scare a lot of people and they will want true privacy something that monero can bring. Privacy by default is what will be highly desired and needed in the coming future as it will be highly beneficial. Nobody wants to be tracked 24/7 of everything they do.

What do you think?
I'm clueless, honestly but I was thinking that AI technology will have that hype.
And talking about privacy projects, the government won't let that happen. In the years coming will be no more such privacy, it is possible that every platform will ask for KYC.

By 2024 and in the years coming, we can expect a lot of change in the market. Might meme coins hype show up again or other new projects?

I'm not looking for a gem or waiting for possible hypes, I just invest in projects that have a sustainable market design (long-term), not these hypes projects that have no use case.
Due to current evolution of AI technology maybe there are some project creator will create a token intended for this technology so maybe for that it can gather hype since there are people following it tracks and also there are people love to shill some project trends for their own profit that's why I'm not totally surprise if I see AI technology tokens will be on hype in future.

But we don't know yet on when this to come since there's no actual timeline for certain technology to rise up since for now Meme coin still dominating the scene in terms of looking at huge hype. But maybe we should be prepare for that since the same with taking a risk on investing on meme coin its better to be at early phase when investing on AI so that we would have more greater chances to earn. Compare if we come late since we know what will be end point of all of this if we are so behind with the hype came.
643  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: December 15, 2023, 01:43:10 PM
Finally the NBA made the right decision for Draymond Green.

Draymond Green’s suspension is good for everyone

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It was fairly shocking on Wednesday night, when the NBA announced an indefinite suspension for Golden State Warriors forward Draymond Green. I had anticipated a fine and probably a one-game suspension after Green struck Phoenix Suns center Jusuf Nurkić in the face on Tuesday, resulting in a Flagrant 2 foul and an ejection in a game the Dubs would lose by three points.

He's on indefinite suspension and it's not certain when he'll come back, but most likely it will a long period of time.
Now, the Warriors will defenitely struggle on their defense without him as they were playing a small ball when Draymond is a significant player for their success, without him, their playoffs hope might be done this season.

Good, at least the NBA has reacted to really suspend him as he is out of control. Although he has the history of those kind of cheap shots, remember him kicking Adams in the nuts? That's already some sign that Draymond is doing it intentionally. But this time he went to far, with the Gobert choke and now hitting Nurkic. And I guess the Warriors are going to suffer for it, and just like in the games against the Clippers, Green services is missing as they lost that game. Although Klay was hot, it was not enough as the Clippers closing them in the last minute of the 4th quarter. So another close lost for them and it's going to hurt them more without Draymond in the lineup.

What he did on Nurkic is not a cheap shot anymore he blow out his head in purpose that's why he really deserve that indefinite ban. He need to learn from that since he acting so vicious recently and didn't think about his team or other player if they will be in bad position. Lately he's not doing good basketball that's why its good for Warriors to decide if they take action on this since if they let Green be in their roster and continue to act like that for sure it continue to destroy their team.

They need everybody on court but for facing a lot of controversy for sure it stress out all players in the team that's why they are now facing a huge loss because they maybe can't get enough help and Dray's presence is so good but he choose to became if not worst a bad player and sit out then wait for his penalty to be lifted out.
644  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: How exactly do you find new tokens before they blow up. on: December 14, 2023, 11:06:06 PM
This question is to help guide newbies on how to spot new gems themselves.
I believe the best way for people with small liquidity to make good money from the bull market is to invest in small cap projects before they get big.

I’ve always asked gurus( that post is 100X and ask you to join their private telegram) this question but none of them ever give a detailed answer. All they say is DYOR, I mean I’m asking because I want to know how exactly to do my research. Can anyone give a detailed explanation on how to find new projects as they are launching before they gain attention.

Actually there's no actual answer with that since its hard to spot those gems on the market but you can get an idea on what are the hype coins or tokens base of the discussion by lot of people on internet so I guess you need to do a lot of research with this so that you can possibly identify the latest hype alts in the market. Also what's best for you to do is to join the groups that discussing about current trends of investing especially on meme coin or low cap token/coin investment since provably this could help them learn more or get updated with latest in the market.
645  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey on: December 14, 2023, 12:40:51 PM
It's a good idea if someone wants to get rid of their addiction to consult a professional. Usually this psychiatrist will advise whether a person should reduce the intensity of their gambling slowly or cut ties with it immediately.
But I think if a person wants to get away from his gambling addiction there is no other way than to cut ties with it completely. Because if a person decides to end their addiction straight away, and learns to restrain themselves, they will be able to control themselves better in the future. The problem of withdrawal symptoms is normal, you can stop yourself from doing that or, if necessary, take sedatives.

Yup especially now that people are getting addicted in gambling quickly even those young people nowadays are experiencing addiction in playing online casinos, that's why it sounds perfect if a person is aware on what they are experiencing and comes with a solution of getting rid of it. seeking a professional help is more important when it comes to this kind of scenario especially worst cases of addiction. Medication and rehabilitation is one of the best way to exclude yourself in this kind of activity.

People now live on digital ages where they see a lot of things on internet including gambling plus their favorite influencers are blatantly promoting gambling and over exaggerating their winning result to their audiences that's why there are curious young mind will try to play the casino games they are trying to promote. They believe on the words said by those people which they can easily get money from playing those casino promoted by this influencers.

We know how bad the addiction especially for young adults and if they are been affected with it its best for them to accept their condition and always seek for professional help since this can help them get proper aid for their addiction and also they should quit gambling for good since they already experience how life became a gambling addict and they maybe can't take what will happen again to them if they get into this situation for second time around.
646  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Bitcoin as payment option for clients on: December 14, 2023, 10:43:14 AM
Bitcoin as payment option for clients

I recently joined this great forum as a UI/UX designer who's interested in investing in Bitcoin. I've decided to use the Bitcoin payment option so that I can start investing in Bitcoin straight with my earnings because my interest in Bitcoin investing has increased.

1. How can the transaction process be optimized for maximum security?
2. What metrics are available for measuring transactions?
3. Which wallet is the best to safeguard my funds and ward off con artists and hackers?

This is already a good idea since for announcing that you are open to receive bitcoin as payment method of your service then you can attract a lot of clients which is using cryptocurrency. For sure there's a lot more benefits you can get with it especially if you increase up your knowledge and understanding regarding on bitcoin investment.

Also you don't need any technical tools to use since simply sending the funds on your personal wallet is really enough to make our transaction successful but make sure you check your receiving address before dealing with client so that no issue will happen.

Use Mempool or Coingecko also you can try to check blockchair or other blockchain tools.

The safest thing you could do to make your wallet safe from hackers and scammers is always check anything people sent to you and if they say download this because it has something then don't do it especially if you are not familiar with the link since this is how phising attack will happen or worse they stole your wallet credentials. Also don't find those to good to true offers as interesting matter since it always a scam so avoid any large return offer since its totally not true.
647  Economy / Gambling / Re: Does anyone find the spate of online casinos a bit uninspired? on: December 14, 2023, 09:21:54 AM
A lot of them seem to be hastily assembled clone sites with very little effort put in and gimmicky marketing. Do you guys have any thoughts on this... plague?

If a casino create almost the same concept with other successful casino then avoid it since usually they are just using the successful casino's fame and provably they provably do a exit scheme in future so always stay on reputable casino which is almost suggested by anyone since this could save us for any financial damages also can make us feel safe then can assure to enjoy each time we play on their platform.

If you also mean the online casino almost have similar games then its normal since they are just actually adding a common games in the market which they know can get a huge demand to a lot of people. The only thing matter the most there is how they provide some good services and how they satisfy their gamblers on their support performance in terms of solving some issues also for actively answering this inquiry when they have some question that need to clear out.
648  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🎲BetFury.io| 🎄Xmas Sleigh Race for $800 000 | 🎁Collect gifts all the way! on: December 13, 2023, 10:40:28 PM
Token burning is merely just a sprinkle of sugar to hide the truth behind the token is already not improving or developing at all. Look at the amount of reward they always allocated on big event. I’m not sure if they use BFG tokens on the current  800K christmas event but most of their promotion involves BFG token as rewards that makes the token burn almost useless.

They are milking the BFG liquidity pool for their marketing purposes while they don’t return part of the casino profit evenly to give benefits for token holders.

The $800k prize pool is still not that much compared to Betfury events in previous years. For example, the prize pool from last year's Christmas event was $1,2 million.
Anyway, it's worth admitting that the Betfury team really spends a lot of BFG tokens on marketing(events), but what can they do about it now? This problem has probably existed since the project's launch, as Betfury developers initially allocated 10% of the total BFG emission to marketing.
Do they have any other options to promote their project now? I don't think so.

Instead of mocking at them due to situation happened on their token I guess its more better to look at the current condition happened on their casino since if you always look after with their token I guess you will just get stressed out with it since there's always nothing happen with it. More better to look at the current promotion they are doing since for me its good to go after with it first and lets see next year if there's huge development will happen that can possibly help their token to get a huge lift or exposure to people trading or investing some good altcoins in the market.
649  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Does technical analysis work in crypto trading? on: December 13, 2023, 01:05:05 PM
For all my 5 months in trading, I'm learning only technical analysis but now everyone is talking about the concept of "Smart Money". So I think that trading is changing and speculators should stop trading based on technical analysis. Or smart money just a concept that cannot possibly work in the market,
Technical analysis will not guarantee you profit it is only a possible estimate by checking previous market conditions but it is never 100% accurate.  So you have to take responsibility for your loss.  You cannot blame technical analysis for your losses.  Because you yourself know that trading is risky and you have accepted it and started trading.  If you trade without doing technical analysis then you will lose as much as you can through technical analysis but it is not possible to avoid loss.

All methods doesn't have any guarantee since it all matter on how the trader execute their trades. But if we pay close attention on the ongoing movement of the market for sure we can figure out its possible movement. That's why before doing traded a proper analysis is really needed and we need those charts to see the price history of the token and possibly find the best position we can enter especially if we do day trades. To loss on trades is really possible since after all market still unpredictable that's why at least we use our brains to analyze since it can give us more better chance to earn some profits rather than using nothing since it will just ruin our day because for sure we have more huge chance to lose by randomly picking up some situation to trade.
650  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: December 13, 2023, 08:27:47 AM
Steve Kerr admitted in the press conference that he cannot find the connection yet. He keeps on rotating his players expecting something good will come out. Well, there are some although what Draymond Green did was just stupid. Stan Van Gundy said he didn't mean it, I doubt that. I am a Warriors fan and yet I don't like how Draymond is behaving. He is exaggerating contacts and it's not cool. That's the third time he was thrown out of the game like a guy who wants to be traded the next time it's available.
The Warriors are already having a bad season, it's time for him to grow up. They were defeated by a Suns team without KD. Ouch!
13 point lead gone in the 3rd quarter. The Suns bench stepped up their game, Metu, Okogi, and Goodwin. And I do love the unselfishness of Booker. He instantly passes the ball whenever the Warriors are pressing him with a double team.
That's what the Suns need especially without a point guard in their midst.

What Green did there is another stupid action he made since he don't really need to do that and if he play fair maybe they get a different result. But he choose to be dumb then decide to get ejected that's why they are facing a lot of troubles. I don't know what's really the problem of Green since he always create trouble for Warriors.

 I guess if he continue to act like that then maybe its time to think about trading him. Although he contribute on defensive ends but for sure they can find another young guys or solid defender there which is easy to be tamed. Since if they always play like that and Green always destroy the good flow of Warriors then expect that they would provably encounter a lot of disappointments.
651  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin and patience on: December 13, 2023, 07:32:01 AM

Monitoring the price of your holding everyday will earn you nothing, but since we are all humans, it will makes us want to react to some price changes which is not good for the goal of getting filthy rich in the crypto space.
Perhaps, it only gives us stress, especially upon checking the price dump and sometimes this is the reason why we could think negatively and even sell our coins. If we are investing, whether it is short-term or long-term, we can never expect a profit right away like buying today and making a profit by tomorrow. The idea of checking every day is not a good practice for real investors as they will just check when they hear good news and just hold when they hear negative news. I think checking once a month is good enough, in fact, we can also check the market chart so we are still aware of whether we are in a profit already or not.


It will just trigger a negative emotion to us especially if we see the price dumping that's why its really good to forget checking the bitcoin price from time to time or in daily basis and just put some target timeline on when you should sell it so that our long term hodl plan will come in reality. To many will get easily affected on what they see that's why they need to think about they are saving those balances for future so that they will never think about touching it. Although sometimes We can't really erase out these thinking that we want to know the status of the market then I think simply reading the news coming from respectable sources is I think enough so that we will get an idea if the market is in bullish or bearish condition.


652  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: December 12, 2023, 01:53:18 PM
I guess Coach Pop already said to Wemby that he must forget that ROTY title because winning a title for the team is way better than that title. TBH, I have trust in Coach Pop. I mean who doesn't? The coach has been in the league for decades, is the most winningest coach in NBA history, and trying to develop a generational player in Wembanyama.

Unlike any other position, Centers like him need to have more conditioning and just need to focus on improving himself rather than chasing the title because obviously, he is not like Lebron in his rookie year because he can take the risk without putting his physical health on the table. Unlike Wemby, he doesn't have that option, he needs to take it slowly but surely to scope and absorb all of that experience to be a dominating player by the next years of his NBA era.

Wemby has the talent of an ideal big man, could shot outside and has a good range in mid range. However, there's one thing that he need to develop, and that is his physique. I mean we can understand that since he is still young, but since he's in the NBA now (his ultimate dream), it should not be a problem from a team on transforming Wemby to be like a Giannis body. Let's just wait and see, maybe a season or two, we will see a more competitive Wemby.

Maybe he need to gain weight a little bit but not to much since if he let his weight became more bigger for sure he will be injury prone with that since 7'4 for sure he's body can't handle much more bigger weight and it can affect since performance since for sure with that he became more slower. What he need to develop is his confidence since he really need that plus a good teammates surround him so that he can get more better plays and make sure he also can get help if he need his teammates to perform well.

For now can't expect anything explosive to them also with young Spurs but if this team will get a lot of experience or get a some veterans to guide them maybe things will be change and they can get a lot of wins next season.
653  Economy / Services / Re: Casual Crypto Gamblers Needed! on: December 12, 2023, 11:46:02 AM
Your forum name is also associated with scam so expect people to doubt what you are trying to ask here. So to erase those assumptions or doubts much better deal with people here and not on telegram since for sure many gamblers would participate on your task.

Just post the updates and or anything related to what other things needed here since that's what people in this forum want to see since they always feel safe here so try to make all the concern valid since it will also help you if your intention is legitimate since to many reputable member which have experience on gambling would provably join you.
654  Economy / Gambling / Re: Betnomi | Project status & Refund Plan! on: December 12, 2023, 09:15:28 AM
And if they really lost database of the client then how will they know the original victims to do the refund? .

This right here cracks me up! I mean, how do you tell me that the database was lost?

Even in the case of a malicious attack or virus corrupting a file, there is still a backup. How can it be possible to loose a digital file like its just a hardcopy data that got missing.

They should salvage whatever is left of their reputation and just effect refund and let's look at something else to adventure on

That's exactly what we are talking about here since if there database is lost then how could they do those refund process? It puzzle me on how they could they refund 100% those affected user without any data to follow on?

This is really a huge a lot of work to do since they need to locate those real affected user and refund them, also they could also prone for abuse since provably there are people will claim that they are affective even if not then abuse the whole process.

But Its really questionable why they don't have back up on their data since this is important to hold especially if issue like this happen. But lets still see how they can go thru this process and if we can see people to validate that they successfully get their refund.
655  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Correction is possible in bitcoin price? After 40,000$ on: December 12, 2023, 07:37:56 AM
Bitcoin prices have been on the rise for the past two to three weeks, with no significant correction observed during this period. Currently, the bitcoin price hovers around $39,300. The surge in bitcoin prices can be attributed to the news of ETF approval circulating in the market.

However, what is your opinion? Do you anticipate a potential drop in the bitcoin price, revisiting $30,000 after reaching $40,000, or do you believe it will continue its upward trajectory towards $50,000?
The closer this year will end, the higher we see bitcoin price surging that made me think that any market correction might not be happening this year anymore. But we all know this remains an illusion because we know from the start that bitcoin moves its price mysteriously. So I still have this feeling that any time, bitcoin might experience another price correction and we know its unstoppable.

But is there any reason to be mad or resort into panicking? Of course, there's none. No matter how deep the price drops, bitcoin will always comes up recovering again. So let's just enjoy the opportunity if ever it happens, at least we can add more cheap bitcoins into our portfolio.

The price surge happen its because people think that there are more coming but unfortunately maybe there are some people cashing out there profit that's why there's correction happen. There are still few days left for December still there's a chance that bitcoin will still pump up to $50k if you mean if this price still possible to reach. Also there's no always price up for any coin including bitcoin and current situation shows that to much expecting on something could leave them to massive lose if they are those type of person which can be easily get panic on certain condition including market correction.


For me there's no reason to get panic as still its good to hold if you have some and accumulate if you have no balance left since we are not yet experiencing the halving effect so most provably price would recover and maybe we can see more larger price than this in coming next year.
656  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: December 11, 2023, 10:48:01 PM
Thankfully, LBJ won the first in-season tournament because he won't have another chance next year because of his age and maybe this is the only championship he gets this year.

Are you kidding me? Why would you base on his age rather than his performance?

Look at Lebron's stats here ; https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jamesle01.html

It doesn't even look like his performance has decline, and winning the in season tournament MVP is already a testament that he's still playing like a real NBA superstar. He won't be called Lebron the king for no reason, so while he is still playing, he is still the king.

Yeah right LBJ can still win a  In season MVP if Lakers could still dominate like that next season. Since it will all matter on overall team performance since if he's still good but he's teammate is declining then provably they might get over powered by their opponent. But this season first in game tournament is no luck for them since we see how good their performance is and we see how Lebron perform like there's no performance declining happening to him plus Davies is a total monster in finals.

For winning that in season tournament MVP it says all that there are more from Lebron James in future so provably we can see him balling for more years so expect if there's still in season tournament there's a lot of chance for him to win a MVP again.
657  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The risk and reward of having Bitcoin on: December 11, 2023, 01:50:00 PM
There is a saying that what ever had an advantage also had a disadvantage, why am saying this is because most people especially the newbie's thinks when having Bitcoin the situation is always win win win. So I will be listing a few of the advantages and disadvantages of having it.
disadvantage of having it

*The high volatility attach to it can be very risky.

* It's not generally accepted by all.

* It can be stolen if your system is hacked.

* It's almost near impossible to retrieve if sent to the wrong address.

  advantages of having it

* It can make you filthy rich during the bull run.

* It decentralized, no third party like banks and financial institution.

* It's a self custodian asset, the privacy is priceless.

* It's very accessible at any given point in time.
 
I don't know if I missed some that I didn't mention.


For High volatility you can do something to manage the risk that's why research is important so that you will know about certain conditions happening in the market.

Also for not accepted by majority of merchants I think there's no problem with it since you need to focus on those businesses that accept bitcoin since at the end they are the one who will get benefits for adopting bitcoin and also we don't also have a problem with that since there's still a lot of merchant accept it and we can cashout our coins at anytime we want.

For issue not to be retrieve if sent to wrong addresses then its really up to us on how we handle it that's why we need to do a lot of checking as many as we can to avoid sending it to wrong addresses.

On advantages I guess its automatic that we can get that benefits that's why instead of looking on its negative side we must focus on things we can benefit from since for sure this is also what those investors looking at and future is really good with bitcoin since currently to many big institutions is adopting it.
658  Economy / Gambling / Re: Roobet.com | Crypto’s Fastest Growing Casino 🦘 on: December 11, 2023, 12:28:02 PM
Dont know on why you guys are really that making use of the word "investing" on which you are really just that pertaining about on making some actions in trying out to test out some new sites or platforms.
I don't understand your point here. Investing implies adding funds which is what we are talking about here.

I am also baffled about the use of the terms investment here too.  Is it the money use for gambling or money used to invest in a gambling platform which in return will give a person some passive profit in depending on the platform profit?

I do not think that funds used in gambling activities (betting and wagering) can be called investments.

What I do believe is that as long as the funds stays in our gambling wallets and remain untouched (meaning we deposited but not using to bet) will be called an investment because casino houses can be used also as place to hold(though this is not advisable) as I have used this in the past(of course not planned) that I deposited some amount but since I am drunk and fell asleep , I forgot about the funds for some time until I visited that site and the timing is when the market goes up that the value of my bitcoin of course increases.

But to answer the concern , yes Gambling money isn't investment because the moment we play and lose, then all is gone so there is no  literally an investment remaining .

Whatever you call it guys its fine but I think its nonsense to talk about this topic anymore since its kinda not related to anything happening on Roobet since there's a lot of things more important to discuss rather keep debating about certain topic like that. For sure lot of discussion in that topic will arise since everyone have their own opinion regarding on that topic.

Maybe best to follow their X.com account since there are more exciting happenings there which is good to talk about and also the or any existing promotion that they launch here since its more relevant on Roobet thread.
659  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Bonk, AIDOGE or VET on: December 11, 2023, 10:02:27 AM
Hello,
Which is your choice from the list below?
  • Bonk
  • AIDOGE
  • VET
Please tell me briefly and with the reason.

Thank you.
None because it seems too late. Bonk has gained alot and if you are wanting to invest to any of them, you are surveying on which is a good one. It is likely that you will get some advises exactly from the ones who has invested on them already.
Anyway, for me the most gain that I have seen is with bonk these past few days. I haven't check the others though.

Exactly and I guess anyone need to pass on this since they might done with it and the same with other abandon project those token will be the same.

So if they want to play with shitcoin market maybe they should try to invest on newly launch token since this would provably give them more higher chances to earn rather those tokens which already accumulate a huge price rise since provably the next thing will happen to it will be abandoning of the said project since this is common thing happened to those scam projects and their devs will create another token so that they can earn a lot of money again from the hype brought up by meme shitcoin craze happening especially when bull run season is about to happen.
660  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Staying away from scam. on: December 10, 2023, 11:20:35 PM
It's the end of the year again,where the pressure of wanting to "flex" or look fulfilled for the year,while in reality the year might have not gone so well.
So many people look for get rich schemes with ridiculous percentage gain,this scammers know there's an increase desperation by people this period.
So they ride on your greed to make it quick and rip you off your hard earned funds.
It's imperative you take your time, know what you're getting into before venturing into it, remember all that glitters isn't gold. If it's too good too be true,my friend I can tell you for free, it's most likely to be too good to be true.
Stay safe my friend.

Mistake of other people is they still believe that there's online platform that can make them rich nor a token with no solid future plan can give them a lot of profit that's why they always been caught up with repeat scams happening in crypto.

If they are just aware on any to good to be true offers or know how to play with the fire on investing on token and don't ask to much for it for sure they can get the best result of their investment but if they became more greedy to ask some huge profit out of it then expect that being scam will be their end point.

To stay away from scam much better if they just go away on obvious scam and don't invest on quick rich schemes.
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