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641  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [Auction] Crypto Imperator 10,000 bits Bitcoin Ed. Coin on: December 10, 2023, 01:11:30 AM
Winning bid. Congrats. I will message you in a bit to get all the details sorted out. Thanks everyone for participating!


0.02 BTC
642  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏈🏈 The American Football Discussion Thread 🏈🏈 on: December 09, 2023, 06:12:06 PM
Pretty crazy that we've got just two weeks left until the playoffs start.  It's insane how fast the NFL season flies by.

Here's the games I like for tomorrow..

Tampa Bucs +2.5 Falcons   - Just feel like they've been playing well lately.
Detroit Lions -3 Bears-  My Bears suck
Miami Dolphins -13 Titans

There's a few other games I like, but these are the 3 I feel most comfortable with at the moment.
643  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [Auction] Crypto Imperator 10,000 bits Bitcoin Ed. Coin on: December 09, 2023, 05:57:15 PM
Current high bid  About 5 hours left to get your bids in.

0.02 BTC
644  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [Auction] Crypto Imperator 10,000 bits Bitcoin Ed. Coin on: December 09, 2023, 03:13:37 AM
Current high bid..less than a day left.

0.0160 BTC
645  Economy / Economics / Re: The power of investment choices on: December 07, 2023, 09:33:17 PM
Stop wasting your time on shitcoins is what I tell my clients.  Buy bitcoin, ethereum, Monero, litecoin and that’s about all I think are legitimate. But first make sure yoube got a traditional portfolio tied to the real economy (businesses).  These are actual physical places that provide goods and services..not some token with no utility and no chance long term.
646  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Have you ever been a gambling addict? on: December 07, 2023, 09:29:31 PM
The only time I can say that I was a gambling addict would be during my Jr/Sr year of college. This is when Texas Hold’em absolutely exploded and everyone was playing. I had a game I could join nightly in my own apt complex and I was hooked for months. I was a bit addictive, but the good thing is our buy ins were like $20..and we never did buy back ins.  I did waste a decent amount of $ when I’d go all in just because I’d get a text from my gf “you should come over” lol.  But thankfully, again, never a serious issue,
647  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What will you say within your limits to encourage responsible gambling? on: December 07, 2023, 09:25:43 PM
Casinos are not out to help you out, and in fact it’s just the opposite. They are getting worse and worse when it comes to screwing gamblers over. Doing shady stuff like planting “coolers” to mess up peoples gambling hot streaks. Casinos are about one thing, taking every single penny they can from you. Don’t be fooled,
648  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: December 07, 2023, 09:21:35 PM
People are accusing Zach LaVine of faking his foot injury to force a trade to the Lakers. He’s even scheduled to return when DiAngelo Russell becomes eligible to be traded. I’m not sure if I believe this, but it is within the realm of possibility. I don’t think Zach LaVine will still be a member of the Chicago Bulls when the trade deadline rolls around.

You know I’ve been hearing all about this lately too. I’m not so sure what to believe.  He needs to go, DeRozan, Vuc…all need to be moved. Zero point in keeping them any longer, the Bulls need to rebuild, yet again.

Rumors that Thibs wants him back. Thibs is far better than any coach the Bulls have had anytime recently (and I’ll never forgive Gar/Pax for pushing him out since he challenged their competency..or massive lack of).  Lavine had his breakout year in MN under Thibs, and Lavine said he really respected Thibs coaching style. Thibs doesnt f around, and he makes absolutely everyone better. I have no doubt Thibs could make Lavine a sizably better player. Thibs would force him to be better at D..his major weakness.

We shall see how it plays out.
649  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Coinme Inc -Coinstar’s Cryptocurrency Transactor - SCAM on: December 07, 2023, 09:06:08 PM
One thing I will say right off the bat is that I think it is extremely cool that anyone in the proximity of a coinstar can go and scrounge up their change head to a walmart (assuming they already made their account and everything) throw the change in the bin and get a ticket voucher for redemption in bitcoin! I mean on a granular and microscopic level how much more incrememtelly can you buy BTC than that? While at the same time making it it the MOST accessible means for the average "no-coiner" to start out with their very first SATs.

Perhaps more so this is a better learning lesson for your children in new age money managment, account creation, and crypto in general. Perhaps starting maybe make them set up the account with your guidance, then have them check the couch cushions and cars and the whole house for coins get them their first BTC hardware wallet and redeem their coins to send them to their wallet (of course with a little allowance on top maybe to cover the fees lol). Just as an excercise alone I see this being a very educational opportunity right there.

Now lets get more into the technical side of things here. CoinStar and Coinme are two completely different entities that have been able to come together and partner up on this so seamlessly because CoinStar already had the infractrure of 30 thousand coin conversion machines globally with kiosks that had the ability (probably with some serious hardware upgrades) to install new software for them to be able to allow the use of this service.

Coinme started off as a regular Bitcoin ATM company that used a Genmega Satoshi One Machine and would deploy usually in gas stations or other high traffic areas, but that became very cumbersome and financially depleting so their IT team decided that it would be much easier to just implement new software on existing kiosks and find someone to partner up with because it would be much quicker and much more cost efficient to scale. I want to say Coinstar and Coinme have been partnered since 2019? Maybe 2018. Can't remember.

Once Coinme is fully deployed on all of Coinstar's machines Coinme should have the largest amount of "Bitcoin ATMs" I want to say across the entire globe. I'll check coinatmradar.com and coinmap.org for a more exact number on on which operator has the most amount of machines currently. But all in all you try managing 30k customer support machines for a not so seamless bitcoin sale for the coins lmao those customer service reps are probably at wits end! If they are getting huge fines for pumping shitcoins i'd say it was a failed money grab but hey at least they are testing some stuff out and shaking things up a bit. Of course their customer service team is going to be useless and they are going to try and have the upper hand on every transaction to maximize profit.

If only their transactions were locked in and real time and one single process, this is the difference between Coinme BTM and traditional Bitcoin ATMs. I would stand by my statement that I think its very cool that they have made this a reality and I think its a huge success on their end for being able to take probably super outdated machines and add Bitcoin to them and make them availible for the general public. At the time their partnership was annouced it was a very great day for the adoption and awareness of Bitcoin. 

On another note I sure do love stopping by one of those CoinStar machines to check the reject bin and search for all kinds of coin treasures! Sometimes you might even get lucky and find yourself a silver coin, heck it is possible to even find a gold coin in one!!!!  Wink

It would be cool, if both companies weren’t a rip off, and if CoinMe weren’t a bunch of scamming scumbags. They are no different than big banks, PayPal, Coinbase, phone and internet providers and on and on that are operating a corrupt system nearly unchecked. I’ll never forgot when Coinbase had its IPO, not Fuckn once did any news outlet mention the insane amount of customer fraud complaints. I of course knew they were scammers and they’ve scammed a multitude of my friends over the years. Not to mention nearly zero customer support within any reasonable time manner. I don’t think they even have phone support still, despite being worth billions. Same thing with CoinMe. They say they have customer phone support, but it appears to be a facad.  I read countless complaints on multiple outlets and it’s clear they are operating a shady and corrupt business.

While I agree the idea of BTC ATMs is nice, I could never suggest using one. No different than using Coinstar..absolute rip-off.  (Let me ask you, do most BTC ATMs force you to download their app and force you to send coins to their provided addresses?)

Moral of the story is the U.S. government is utterly corrupted, the SEC is a joke and doesn’t properly do their jobs (I’ve known this for the nearly 20 years of being an advisor).  It sickens me these companies aren’t held accountable to any sort of real degree.
650  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Coinme Inc -Coinstar’s Cryptocurrency Transactor - SCAM on: December 07, 2023, 12:08:09 AM
Did you even read everything I wrote ? Doesn’t seem like it.

Yes, definitely. You said:

Crypto ATMs are NEVER the right place to buy bitcoin however.  Always more expensive. 

To which you didn't seem to read this above:

Their fees are not that high, if you are US based then buying crypto with Zelle from sellers on Paxful / LocalCoinSwap has its own 8% - 9% by most trusted sellers.

In addition:

An F grade from BBB says it all.

It's true, the BBB ratings are bad, but there are car dealerships with similar ratings which are still functioning normally and selling cars etc. and yet despite the poor ratings they are not short of customers ... also many complaints came from a while ago, they seem to work quite okay right now, that's an observation though.

Honestly shocked to see this thread being the first to call out these scamming fucks.

Again, not everyone has issues with them, really got nothing personal against you but they are allowed to charge a "proper" fee they see fit for their service, bookies offer 1.70 on O/U in soccer/basketball sometimes, cutting a huge profit of 30% of the bet, and users are taking it ... is it unscrupulous? no, because it's shown to you before you make that decision. Here's a proof:

https://prnt.sc/JnzWEEZJDmDZ

Let me ask, do you think Coinbase is a legitimate company? The answer is fuck no. These companies aren’t going to scam everyone, otherwise the scam doesn’t last very long.  Same thing with banks like Chase. Plenty of people don’t get scammed.. and they are the world’s 2nd largest bank. Does that mean they aren’t scammers? Again, f no. They are corrupt as all hell ( https://violationtracker.goodjobsfirst.org/parent/jpmorgan-chase ).  The problem is the fed gov and SEC are paid off and or don’t do their jobs properly, so these scams live on as “legitimate companies” since they’ve not been shut down. As an FA I’m governed by the SEC and I can promise you they are corrupt themselves and do not regulate even remotely as they should be. It’s really fd up.

651  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Coinme Inc -Coinstar’s Cryptocurrency Transactor - SCAM on: December 06, 2023, 11:03:24 PM
A scam would be you depositing cash in the machine and you don't get your crypto.
Their limit is $1,000/day without hard verification, you can't put more unless you verify yourself.

Normally, good companies demand verification first and only then take your money, and that's what they do.
Without the hard verification you can still buy up to $1,000/day, and it works as well.

The price is shown on the screen, so why are you so upset with them? Have they cheated you or caused you a loss?


Did you even read everything I wrote ? Doesn’t seem like it.
652  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Luck and skill, which is more important for gambling success? on: December 06, 2023, 06:06:35 PM
It all depends on what type of gambling you're doing.  Playing slots? Pure luck.  Roulette, blackjack, Poker, sports betting, all gambling "games" that are large part skill and plenty of luck as well.  Gambling will almost always include luck..but that's like with most things in life. The real game is learning how to take luck out of the equation as much as possible.  Not always so easy, of course.
653  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: help me not to leave btc on: December 06, 2023, 06:02:51 PM
Those coins you named are fn worthless shitcoins and their sole purpose is for traders to try and make money.  Always ask yourself, "does this coin provide legitimate utility that no other coin does.  Does it solve any current world issues in some way"?  If the answer is no to these questions (which it will be 99% of the time) than it's a waste of your time.  Trading at a high level takes skill and time..too much time.  Bitcoin provide legit utility..it's the first of it kinds and there's a reason its a 44k a coin. 

654  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2023-2024 betting on: December 06, 2023, 05:58:58 PM
The Chicago Bulls face off versus the Charlotte Hornets tonight where the spread is at -4.5 Bulls.  Ever since Lavine went down they seem to be playing a different game of basketball which has been paying dividends for them, so far.  I don't think they are necessarily a better team without Zach Lavine, but I say ride the hot hand while he's out and things are clicking for them.

Placing a small bet tonight.  Shall see if riding the wave continues.
655  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How Do You Convince Someone On Something That Will Not Work on: December 06, 2023, 05:54:21 PM
Let me share a bit of what I've learned being a financial advisor for close to 20 years now.  Probably like 75% of people on earth are immune to good advice.  People get it stuck in their heads that they are right, despite what so many others (with far more experience are telling them).  Take bitconnect for example.  I tried to help so many to see the light that earning 1% a day was not even remotely possible, yet these people whom mostly had never dreamed of making money so easily get so wrapped up in the thought of financial freedom they ignore all warning signs..or simply don't do much research.

So likely nothing you can say could convince them otherwise.  I hate to be this way, but people of lower intelligence are the ones who often think this way.  A lot more difficult to reason with someone of a lower IQ than one that's higher..typically. 

Best of luck though.
656  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Coinme Inc -Coinstar’s Cryptocurrency Transactor - SCAM on: December 06, 2023, 05:53:02 PM
Tried them several times and it worked flawlessly.
Their fees are not that high, if you are US based then buying crypto with Zelle from sellers on Paxful / LocalCoinSwap has its own 8% - 9% by most trusted sellers.

They charge something similar, it's quite convenient doing it with cash without having to speak to anyone. The app works fine, you get the crypto in the app the moment you get that "receipt 🧾" you were referring to.

Then when you send the crypto to another wallet it is sent instantly. At least from our experience we had 0 troubles with them.


I appreciate you sharing your story/knowledge!  Crypto ATMs are NEVER the right place to buy bitcoin however.  Always more expensive.  There is hardly ever a good reason to use a Coinstar, esp for buying crypto.  It's clear this company is fraudulent as all fuck. The evidence I've provided is just the tip of it all.  There's so much more shady stuff going on I just haven't got to yet. An F grade from BBB says it all. 

Honestly shocked to see this thread being the first to call out these scamming fucks.  SEC also not doing their job, per usual SMH.
657  Economy / Scam Accusations / Coinme Inc -Coinstar’s Cryptocurrency Transactor - SCAM on: December 06, 2023, 10:10:41 AM
I cringe every time I see someone using a Coinstar machine (they charge a high fee to turn fiat coins to cash/gift cards/etc when your bank will cash your coins for free). I remember seeing them start to add bitcoin purchase options at most locations. I never looked in to it because I already knew it wasn’t a smart way to purchase btc.

I was researching another topic and ran in to Coinme ( https://coinme.com/ ) info and learned a bit about this company, who claims to have had the first btc ATMs, now partnering with (or owned by, need to do more research here) Coinstar.

First off, the Coinstar machines simply print a voucher receipt showing your btc was sent to your Coinme account (the only place they’ll send it…meaning you are forced to download and establish an account with them ..RED FLAG).

So who’s apparently been scammed? .(just a few examples here. Countless others can be easily found via the Web at sites like Reddit, for ex).

Trust Pilot- https://www.trustpilot.com/review/coinme.com

BBB (non-accredited/ F rating issued) - https://www.bbb.org/us/wa/seattle/profile/virtual-currency/coinme-inc-1296-1000053729/customer-reviews

BBB complaints - https://www.bbb.org/us/wa/seattle/profile/virtual-currency/coinme-inc-1296-1000053729/complaints?page=1 (notice how the company no longer responds to customer complaints like they use to back in 2020/2021. But , this is the type of response you see a lot of ..
 
(Sure looks like a great way to skim /scam off price movements).

ScamAdvisor Review- https://www.scamadviser.com/check-website/coinme.com

I’ve read their Customer Service is nonexistent (sure does remind me of another crypto scam company ..Conbase, err Coinbase).

Has anyone ever used Coinme in conjunction w Coinstar and can share their experience?

I will be providing more info and doing more research over the coming days when I find the time. I was shocked to see this topic not having been posted on here yet (my bad if it has and I missed it somehow Cyrus)


Edit: SEC hits Coinme with 4 million dollar fine for promoting a misleading shitcoin UpToken- https://dailyhodl.com/2023/05/02/sec-hits-crypto-exchange-coinme-with-4000000-in-fines-for-alleged-securities-fraud/ - Btalk ANN https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2199751.0

It’s amazing there’s no SEC case/violation for their shady and fraudulent Coinstar CoinMe practices. But To be fair, Coinbase has been scamming members since day 1 and they still operate just fine despite their continuous fraudulent ways.



658  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏈🏈 The American Football Discussion Thread 🏈🏈 on: December 06, 2023, 07:15:51 AM
@bcc on mobile too lazy to quote..but I hear ya

I do not trust Brock Purdy yet in a big game against someone like Patrick Mahomes.

This is the first time I wanted BCT to have a down vote option. Smiley


Wander in to P&S and I bet you’ll increase that number 10-fold, especially reading one forum member’s post in particular (hint, it’s not good..it’s bad  Cheesy ).

@bbc Brock Purdy wouldn’t face Mahomes. He faces the Chiefs defense. To boot, Mahomes has not been Mahomes really this year, esp of late. Kelce looks hurt (rumors he’s hanging it up after this year) and the KC receivers are absolute shit (Rice is okay).  The Niners are a much much better team all around. Defense obviously much better and Purdy has 100x the weapons Mahomes has. My money would be all over SF in a matchup between these two.

P&S ?

I was just busting bbc's balls, yeah There are tons of posts on this forum I would break the mouse button downvoting! Cheesy



*****
 

Looks like 3 of us have locked up a playoff spot!

I think you might be the only one with a chance to knock SM out of contention, GL.

Politics and Society ..picking up what I’m putting down here now? lol.  Also, agreed. I would apply to be a de-merit source in a heartbeat  Cheesy.  

Well I’ve made a decent run towards the finish line but prob not gunna make it in. Has been a fun year anyhow and I won’t finish last like last year so there’s that !
659  Economy / Economics / Re: How to be more effective working remotely. on: December 05, 2023, 05:49:32 PM
I often wake up 30mns before my first meeting to kick off my day. I wear mostly pajamas with a polo/sweater shirt when video calls are necessary. I take naps, run errands, watch TV etc and I’m not dismissing any of my responsibilities and doing a good job at that.

It’s economically more viable for most. I don’t commute an hour each way anymore, I don’t have people up my ass for nonsensical things etc. I love working from home and I’m no less productive. I see many people here simply don’t have much self control over even basic little things. Hopefully that’ll change in time like it did with me.

I do miss being around people. It can get lonely. But worth it.
660  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: can't understand why Korea is in speculation on: December 05, 2023, 05:42:31 PM
Korea is no different than many counties around the world in this regard. In Japan they absolutely LOVE Monacoin (a worthless shitcoin). 

Your story here is the same in the U.S. As a financial advisor I often get asked about bitcoin and even to this day when I ask what coins these people hold, it’s normally like 50% Bitcoin, and the rest pure utter shit I’ve often not even heard of.

Also, bitcoin is inherently not an investment. It’s so much more with the utility it provides. 99% of alts offer zero utility that hasn’t already been created or done.
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